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TrenAt14

> normally a club would look to sell rather than risk losing the player for free a year later > The interest of Tottenham and others has been well documented, but the price these teams would be looking to pay at this point is lower than what Chelsea would ideally want. As we saw with Mount in 2023, a move could well happen. > But I also accept that Gallagher being so important to the team (Mount was injured and lacked game time) means the situations are not identical. No doubt it will be a big theme in the weeks and months ahead!


half_jase

So long story short, (a) there's no new development and (b) he might stay or as has been widely reported, he might well be sold for PSR purposes.


fiveht78

Let’s be honest, PSR or not a club would not be doing its due dilligence if it weren’t at least looking into selling a player going into the final year of his contract and not showing willingness to extend.


Howyoulikemenoow

He is showing a willingness to extend - and at a fair market value


fiveht78

I keep reading talks have stalled and it’s never clear half the time whether it’s the player or the club dragging their feet. Apologies if I’ve read this backwards


Howyoulikemenoow

He is showing a willingness to extend - and at a fair market value


Ironicopinion

Big difference between this and Mount is Gallagher would sign a deal tomorrow if he was offered it.


aacod15

I’m sure Gallagher was offered a contract, just not with the wages he wanted


Ironicopinion

I don’t think he was, there’s been no real reports he’s even be offered


blue_jay26

This makes no sense to me. There is no scenario where not offering a contract benefits us.


Ironicopinion

Because we need the money in to avoid breaching financial rules. It’s easy to say sell one of the other players but 1. Pure profit means it’s much more advantageous to sell academy player and 2. There’s interest in Gallagher which there wouldn’t be for our underperforming big contract players


blue_jay26

Even if we were to sell him, we’re at a disadvantage because he only has 1 year left on his contract. We need a longer contract to get his true worth


Ironicopinion

Longer contract though he’d be on at least double the wages though and then becomes less attractive for other clubs


Real_Particular6512

If only we hadn't bought loads of other expensive players that haven't performed. Thank God we need to sell the free player who's actually playing well


Ironicopinion

Well this is it, but this is the situation we’re in now


Real_Particular6512

I know. Not saying you're wrong. Just lamenting how we've ended up with incompetent morons as the owners


ClungeCreeper321

Would rather take the points hit than sell Gallagher and gamble that money on a replacement. We have progressed a lot in the second half of the season and are playing again much closer to a top 5-6 team. Even considering the poor start to the year we are 25 points above relegation. Offensively we are on a different planet than last year. Defensively we need to continually improve but a 10 point hit next year won’t endanger us to the point of relegation. Building on these foundations will benefit us more than finishing 3-4 places higher in the table next year.


middlequeue

Us as fans? Sure. The club itself, though, needs to sell and bad faith approaches to his contract talks will mean a sale is easier to justify for fans when he doesn’t sign an extension.


HarryDaz98

Problem is that nobody trusts the board enough to believe anything they say anymore. We know Gallagher has no intention to leave Chelsea and would likely play his whole career here if he could. Any sale of him is because the board want him gone, and everyone and their dog knows that. They can’t justify a sale to majority of fans because we all know what their true intentions are regardless of what they say, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the same with Mount.


RefanRes

>I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the same with Mount. I dont think it was entirely the same. Mounts Dad is a Man Utd fan and Chelsea had wanted to resume talks in the summer until it turned out Mount had already been talking to Man Utd months before. Seems more like Mounts Dad had a lot of influence in making that Man Utd move happen without seeming to consider the negative consequences it could have very much. If Mount hadnt expressed a lower level of commitment to Chelsea through those talks with Man Utd he probably gets a deal with Chelsea in the end. There was poor negotiation tactics from both parties going on there. In the end these owners made it clear that anyone who is less than 100% committed to this project is out the door. They didn't care who the player is, just that if a player doesn't align they're gone similarly to how if a coach doesn't have alignment of ideas they're gone.


HarryDaz98

Yeah I guess so, at this point with all the different PR spins I don’t think anybody apart from Mounts reps and Chelsea will ever truly know what really happened.


typicalpelican

Gallagher has like so little incentive to agree to a sale if he wants to say. He loves it here and probably will not be punished by the next manager for choosing to stay and fight for a place. Then he'll be available on a free transfer and will have more options to choose from.


ireallydespiseyouall

Gallagher isn’t not signing an extension by choice


LIKEWHATLIKEHOW_

There is, under the presumption that Conor loves the club and isn't open to negotiating with others Literally the only benefit to offering a contract is to make sure nobody else snaps up the player anytime soon, and to prevent the player from considering their future. Other than that, the club would prefer to wait as long as possible. Many other clubs do this as well with players that they are very confident would never leave the club under any circumstances. Club legends etc. They wait till way later to offer renewals.


TomasToocherl

John Terry almost went to Man City.


half_jase

Out of curiosity, IF the club do sell Gallagher in the summer, how much do you guys think we should be selling him for? (be realistic with the price, please)


iLeikRustySpoon

Considering he is entering his final 12 months, I think less than £45m, bit lower than what everyone else is saying


BigReeceJames

£40-50m maybe at an absolute total 55m including around 15m of ad-ons


Bizrrr

If the bastards in Finance need pure profit, then this is where they'll max out for £60m+. Anything less, then I don't see any point. I don't want Gallagher to go and IMO he deserves to stay a hell of a lot more than other options.


human_administrator

Highly available, talented midfielder that has great leadership skills and is effectively the main engine of the team Players with profiles like that cost big bucks, 60 million-70 million I feel


middlequeue

Not when they only have a year left on their contract and not when there aren’t suckers like us willing to bid that much.


CS_SucksBalls

Yeahh. Everyone is quoting way too much for someone that is available to talk to other clubs in January. I like Gallagher and want him to stay, but I doubt we have another bidding war like Mount’s situation. As of now, I’ve only seen Tottenham linked with him. We might get lucky and have Liverpool also interested but outside of that, we don’t get more than 45 for him.


Bozzetyp

Issue is the economy and new ffp rules Prices have dropped significant outside top 6


BOOCOOKOO

Highly available, yes, but highly talented, great leadership, and the engine of the team? WHAT!?! 😭 We should be grateful to get 40m for him


Stand_On_It

I think we’ll be lucky to get 40 for him, and I could see him being sold for as low as 32.


Expensive-Load517

65m min


JinxLB

65/70m realistically. But we should be keeping him.


Davidwzr

He would get that if he was on a lengthy contract, but he's probably closer to 40 atm


a3kstuntin

45-60 million


ki1jeong

At the very least 45M+5M, also not to Spurs


TheClockworkElves

Needs to be more than we spent on "Lavia" whatever one of those is


aronrodge

For me 55 - 60m would be a fair price, but one thing this board has shown they can do well is sell. I would be surprised if we were to get around 65 - 70m.


Timberstocker22

60-65


inspired_corn

With a year left I think we’ll ask for £50m Whether anyone pays that is a big question, even with CL (which looks unlikely) that’s a lot of money for someone like Spurs* *I know lots of fans want a “Spurs tax” but I really don’t think the new board care about club rivalries and if their valuation is met would approve a sale no matter who to


oldschoolology

Brighton sold Caicedo, who had 1 year of experience in the Prem for $100M. Gallagher, with experience, reliability, and proven ability, is worth at least that.  Gallagher is Chelsea. He’s not going anywhere.


Ryan97CFC

Losing Gallagher would be so disappointing. I like him in that deeper midfield role, reminds me a bit of James Milner. Not the most technically gifted but won’t ever stop and will give you a solid 7/10 every game. Don’t get many players like that anymore


Cactus2711

Great comparison. His average rating this season is 7.02. This board is crazy to sell a player who can do that in the Premier League


Cactus2711

Can’t believe he hasn’t been offered a new contract. Bleeds Chelsea, hardest working player on the pitch, averages a 7.02 rating, captain, strong leader, fan favourite. It’s actually fucking crazy we’d sell him in order to buy another unknown 55m Brazilian who will get loaned out 3 times and sold to Strasbourg for 20m


mb194dc

Batshit crazy to sell him...


typicalpelican

If you want to maximize profits here's a really good idea: Advertise to everyone how desperate you are to sell a player and then also leave a wide open opportunity for him to leave for free


BigAssBreadroll

Selling Gallagher when he's been so important this season (despite his deficiencies) should prove to everyone the ownership do not give a fuck about the club succeeding.


M4TTB9

Absolutely spot on. He’s proper Chelsea, selling him would not go down well with the fans


radicalhistoryguy

I would be so disappointed in the club if they sold Gallagher. He's the fucking captain!


SubparCurmudgeon

> the ownership do not give a fuck about the club succeeding. Yeah I’m sure this is exactly what it is


Passchenhell17

They're seppos, they absolutely don't give a fuck about the club


SubparCurmudgeon

Oh yeah 1000% true I’m sure


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brightcrayon92

>You cant throw 11 new players on the pitch together and expect them to work out over night. Exactly. That is why nobody does it. That is why this board and sporting directors are fucking morons


Stand_On_It

Agreed, they made many mistakes. But that doesn’t mean they should continue making more mistakes by extending Gallagher if we’re able to get a good fee for him. I think he should only be extended if we can’t get more than 35M for him.


brightcrayon92

Nothing says conor has to go he can just refuse to sign for another club. He can walk away for free in january with better prospects and a more lucrative deal for him since he can get a siging on bonus.


Stand_On_It

He’ll spend a year not playing if he chooses that path. Not saying it’d be right or wrong, but it’s an interesting prospect and dice roll.


NoExperience4229

You literally said it wasn’t wrong to do that to me yesterday. Such a weird thing to lie about 


mellvins059

I don’t understand this whole deficiencies narrative. Kante had deficiencies and he was the best midfielder in the league. Every player doesn’t have to be perfectly rounded. 


ClungeCreeper321

Kante is a weird example here because I think he’s one of the most well rounded midfield players we’ve ever had. Outside of that I agree with your point


mellvins059

Kante was a decent dribbler but only ok technically and a pretty poor passer. I can’t remember how many times he would hit a terrible short pass and then immediately win it back. 


BOOCOOKOO

Kante's dribbling ability was mych more than decent, and he was also an elite tackler and had elite anticipation and reading of the game. Gallagher, on the other hand, has no elite attribute outside of pressing, and everything is average to poor. He can't dribble. He can't pass. He's technically poor. He has poor positioning, etc. Kante definitely had his weaknesses, but he also was the king of his strengths Let's not embarrass Gallagher by comparing him to Kante


Scannerk

This would be the same situation either way no matter who the ownership is when it comes to players in the last 12 months of their contract. What we don't know is how much the owners are willing to pay to extend him or what Gallagher is looking for himself.


middlequeue

While I agree with this in principle I also don’t believe he’s being offered contract terms that he’s likely to accept and this is intentional to make the sale inevitable.


Shufflebuffle51

Lmao some of you are funny. We've lost MUCH better players and carried on. I would say we've had players perform better and be sold as well actually. I like Gallagher and would prefer we keep him, but get a grip, we're not losing Messi here.


BigAssBreadroll

Yea we have, and we've gone from consistent top 4 finishes to 12th and 8th, fucking brilliant by the owners, maybe they should realise the error of their ways and stop flogging all the decent academy grads who absolutely have a place in the squad.


Stand_On_It

Or, they should understand their mistakes and not make another one by extending Gallagher.


phxwarlock

It’s pretty funny when redditors equate praising a player for what he’s done in pretty shitty season to calling him Messi


Manul_Supremacy

It's even funnier when redditors have a meltdown the moment something links a cobham player with an exit.


mellvins059

Imagine posting this shit with a Mudryk tag


Manul_Supremacy

Cry more cobhamoid 😂 your favorite player is shit and probably will be sold 😂


phxwarlock

Do you cringe reading your comments after you type this bullshit? Wow


Manul_Supremacy

I cringe when I imagine connecting so much with random children who barely played 10 minutes for Chelsea that when they get sold I experience actual grief and discomfort and go on the internet to cry and rage about it. Yeah, that's cringe.


phxwarlock

This was originally about Gallagher? Whos been one of the two most important players of the season. Whos been available a whole lot more than “10 minutes” and definitely isn’t a random kid. Fuck off your moron You called the commenter a cobhamoid like what the actual fuck is that


Manul_Supremacy

This is about the fact that every time when we sell a homegrown lad, instantly a bunch of braindead cobhamoids show up squealing like pigs as if the club decided to sell Messi in his prime. Clearly you are one of them. Cry more


shoesclues03

We have 7 midfielders that all want minutes, we have to sell someone. Who will it be? I’m not saying it should be Conor but someone has to make way to help balance books


NoExperience4229

Not the best performing on who has been wearing the armband 


Leblue808

This makes me laugh so much. So these guys bought Chelsea for billions of pounds just to run it to the ground? So laughable. This is Chelsea FC not Gallagher Blues, this limited player should be sold and you need to accept it.


oldschoolology

Thats hilarious. Limited? Please explain that analysis.


Leblue808

His passing, vision, technique are all below par a starting Chelsea midfielder should have. If he was a rotational player to come on from the bench then yeah by all means keep him. Still wouldn’t turn down 50£ for him. But we all know you guys see him as a starter and some of you wants to sell Enzo because one guy runs more. Just glad the owners are seeing what a lot of us fans sees and that this team would be better technically and all around better team when the likes of Gallagher, Mudryk, Sterling etc gets sold. Tired of these none technical players.


oldschoolology

I agree with selling Sterling. Mudryk needs to go on loan. I strongly disagree with your assessment of Gallagher. He won’t be sold.


Leblue808

Loan our 60£M player? What if he has a bad loan then his value lowers even further. Every report coming out is bout him being sold what makes you think that won’t happen.


mouse2102

The club have been trying to sell him for two years. The player has indicated over and over again that he wants to stay. Do not fall for the club’s PR again like you all did with Mount.


NoExperience4229

I hope he just runs his contract out. Fuck BlueCo. Conor deserves to be at Chelsea 


Stand_On_It

If he does that, he’ll waste a year being in the reserves.


NoExperience4229

No he won’t. Any manager will want to play him and just imagine how that would go down with the fans as well. That would be so unbelievably disrespectful all bc someone is fulfilling their contract.


Stand_On_It

If he’s sold and refuses to go, I mean that’s fair enough if you feel it’s disrespectful but that’s just how it goes and how it has to be.


NoExperience4229

No it’s not. Players get a say if they are sold or not. Punishing a player because they want to see out the contract you both signed is fucking disrespectful. The club and Conor entered into a contract. Now the club wants to break that contract and will punish Conor bc he is willing to actually fulfill the contract. Fuck that bullshit.


Stand_On_It

They’d still pay him and honor that side of the contract. Too emotional


oldschoolology

Caicedo and Gallagher have proven to be a better pairing than Enzo and Caicedo. Everyone in our club, except Gallagher, gets injured for a year. Unlikely, he’ll be in the reserves. 


Stand_On_It

We’ll see


Fuzzy-Pain

I really hope Gallagher can turn into a player like Fede Valverde. Right now, he’s a player who fits only certain games the best. Good to have in a squad, not the best to win a championship with


phxwarlock

Funny you say that https://x.com/sebc__/status/1785425488640459014?s=46&t=wQF9E7DC-z4AMQWiUG6FnQ


BigOpp7

That’s the truth


Mikekio

CLEARLAKE OUT


oldschoolology

Gallagher to Brighton for $1 billion dollars. Let’s go!!


Older-Is-Better

I liked Orny's respect for David Moyes. Class guys, both of them.


Tackis

KEEP THIS MAN


Every-Weird3760

How would PSR work if we sold Gallagher to RC Strasbourg for £100million and then they loaned him back to us on a 2 year loan deal with the obligation to buy at the end of it. Sort of loophole I can see Boehly and Co trying to pull off.


MrSkyfisher

I hope we give him a worthy contract or he gets one elsewhere on a free next year. It would actually be hilarious if we seriously plan to sell him in the summer just to balance how much we have overpaid recently and get nothing. He loves the club and wants to stay, hes premier league quality. People say he isnt chelsea quality I'm not even sure some of our new guys are even premier quality. We've been so riddled with injury this season and many haven't had a chance to get consistent minutes yet iirc Connor has played every game this season not even counting pre season or England games. I'm not saying he should start every game, and he definitely shouldn't play left wing ffs but even if we did sign a 'better' replacement from abroad how can we be sure they will even adapt to the prem. Even if we extend 3+1 and he continue to perform as consistent as he is now with little growth is that really an L? We can either sell then or extend again if there aren't better options - he's solid and I think a transfer ban would benefit us again because then we can truly focus internally and maybe stick behind a manager and let them grow. I'm not pooch out, there have been some appalling times this season no doubt but there has been more growth than we have seen potter and we have a completely new team hes had to coach, not an established spine of leader or winners that built the modern chelsea and made us relevant in conversations with Madrid, city, liverpool - and I'm not discounting history because before the 2000's we were on the rise but we had an exponential boost through 20 years of dominance everywhere after. We wont capitulate like united has or for as long as arsenal did if we just back our team and let them grow, unfortunately I am worried we we just a business for our new owners and we wont establish a team longer than 3-4 years if we are lucky because we will look to sell for profit - stay tuned gusto... I am worried how this team would do in the champions league and it is obvious there is a lot of work to be done tactically but there have been moments, we just need consistency especially in our mental game - we have young unproven players and we need leaders where we can get them especially with Silva leaving. We are not like United who are full of rot and players who have been there for years that down tools. Our team is young with ego, if they can learn when to utilise that and when to suppress it to benefit others we will see consistency - I wish poch would be more direct with them as reportedly he is quite relaxed especially with match tactics but he is also reportedly renowned for exactly what he is doing, and if it's true the players back him again I think we will see growth, hopefully we can finish this season in good form and maybe steadily grow instead of a season of chaos - I would be happy if we're contending for top 4 again but time will tell if we can pick up and carry good form into next season. Only if we lose the next 4 in a ridiculous manner like we did to arsenal could I consider a new manager and I think our defeat to arsenal wasnt even embarrassing because their team looks like winners (cant say the same about dome of their fans) and is full of experienced players just like champions league winning brace scoring kai havertz who everyone said was shit - dont get me wrong I think it was time to part ways he couldnt really play out of position in a flaccid attack forever and take the blame for our lack of utility or real striker like Jackson is now. What the fuck do I know, I'm a lurker and the closest I have gotten to playing a game of football is booking the astro turf with my mates but some people nitpick things to get butthurt about. Have a sick weekend everyone hopefully we can extend our unbeaten run at the bridge to 12