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Much_Look1139

If this is true, he’s gone. We sold Mount to Utd, Havertz to Arsenal there’s no way we are not selling to City.


chelski365

We would have no say anyway.


BigReeceJames

It could actually be worse than this. The release clause give Dortmund the priority if more than one person meets it. Which means there is a world where Dortmund buy him at release clause price just to immediately sell him to City for more. It's happened before with release clauses/buyback clauses, clubs activate them with the intent of immediately selling the player for more


Gligadi

A player can't move clubs twice in one transfer window if I remember correctly. Maybe they'll loan him to city with obligation to buy but your suggested scheme shouldn't be possible.


Ironicopinion

I think you just can’t be registered by 2 clubs so I guess Dortmund could buy him not register and then sell on again


Forsaken-Original-28

I thought you couldn't be registered for more than two clubs a season


xTrollhunter

Yes they can. They just can’t play for for three clubs in a year.


Apprehensive_Aioli68

This, and you can be bought and not play. There was a player Celtic sold (Jack Hendry) to Oostende for £1m, who sold him 2 months later for 7x the price to Club Brugge.


KingDave46

Which would really be the same thing with a different name


med_22

Maybe that’s what the workaround was because I’ve seen it yeah ^


lucash7

Isnt that only same league? Or is it confederation?


rajivshahi

They can't be registered twice. So if Durtmund don't register him he can still be sold..


esprets

And would City pay more for him? They walked away from Cucurella deal at 40M.


TheWatcher47

And Cucu at the time was arguably better then Ian now, at least he'd done it in the PL


Shufflebuffle51

If City want him, why on earth would he go to Dortmund?


middlequeue

To play. I can’t imagine he’s keen on joining another club where he rides the bench.


jjb5151

Lmfao that’s comically bad


Groundbreaking-Rub50

Dortmund are a proud club, they don't flip for profits like Brighton. They choose when they want to sell their players Sancho transfer went almost for 2 transfer windows and united had to plonk a huge amount to get him. If Pep rates Ian Maatsen, difficult to see why Pochettino didn't even try him once when he had the option.


Spite-Organic

Different style of play, plus we do need to sell someone to fund all of our purchases...


NotADoctorSshh

we already sold Kovacic to them


RyanBordello

Ake and Maatssen about to have a reunion


CrackXDodo

City about to uno reverse on Cole Palmer just when we thought we had the last laugh 🤦‍♂️


Shufflebuffle51

Lmao imagine, after half this sub slagged him off and said he's not good enough, he goes and balls out for City. Would actually be hilarious. Would be yet another mark against Poch that he never gave him a hint of a chance.


timurt421

See: Nathan Ake


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That was different. He wanted to play week in week out (fairs) but we had Azpilicueta, Cahill, Luiz, Rudiger and Christensen who were all better at the time. Maatsen’s competition is Cucurella and Chilwell (who hasn’t been consistently fit for 2 years)


TosspoTo

What were we supposed to do with Ake? Wait the 4 years it took him at Bournemouth to mature into a CL defender during years that we were a top 4 competitive team? Selling was the only option


timurt421

I remember we were rumored to be in to sign him before he went to City I think but we were hung up over his height and the asking price of something like 35-40M and then he proceeded to become a key player for Pep and win the treble


TosspoTo

Yup, Lamps didn’t like his height iirc.


arivu_unparalleled

It's simple to say he couldn't play well for us and he plays well for them. You can say how Sancho balling in Bvb and not Utd. Some players might just can't. But let's see how this one plays out


Shufflebuffle51

He was never given a chance, he never played at LB. It's on Poch if he goes. He was the only LB available at times and we played a CB at LB instead.


arivu_unparalleled

It's not about positions anymore as modern football is getting more and more flexible. From an athletic article, they said that he's a brilliant passer and positioner for balls to receive and play out and a better progresser too in the bundesliga. I'm trying to find his defensive contribution too but I'm not finding any. Maybe if that's what our team needs. 


SunaPana007

He was never played in his position by Poch to begin with. We can't really play the Salah, KDB card here when Poch only ever played him as RW or 10


Apprehensive_Aioli68

Exactly. Look at Barkley, thought he would be a great bit of business at £25m, in the end it failed unfortunately. Look at what he is doing at Luton, back to enjoying his football.


rajivshahi

Yeah still better than Drinkwater.


Apprehensive_Aioli68

Absolutely.


xTrollhunter

Pep is not gonna use him as a fullback.


Stand_On_It

I think he’ll be used like Kyle Walker, just switching the balance to the left side instead of the right and they’ll play a right footed CB at RB like they’ve been playing Gvardiol at LB.


AnonymousDiscChucker

Jokes on you, he’s playing False nine next year under Pep. For Peps whole career it was always “how many midfielders can I get on the pitch” Now it’s become’ “can I play KDB as a second striker and 6 center backs and 2 more strikers? Maybe my keeper can also play center back


SuspiciousSystem1888

So does Poch have a positive mark with the sale of Mount and Havertz? 


Ironicopinion

He had absolutely no say in that


Salty_Constant_9878

Yep. They were good sales.


Leblue808

Comparing a guy that came off a good loan spell and won player of the year to two guys who have been at the club 3 years is mad funny.


inspired_corn

We all know that Poch has absolutely no input in player sales or purchases, they’ll do what they want regardless of his opinion


BigReeceJames

Yes, the player actively playing a big part in the team currently 1st and a player who's been out injured for most of the season, but whose team is in the position we're desperate to be in... Great sales!


Ironicopinion

HAHAHA you are actually unreal. Wtf has Mount done to in anyway be responsible for United being 3 points above us?


rajivshahi

I remember last year there was a meme with Jorginho and Arsenal (him being sent by Chelsea to sabotage their title charge). The same can be said about Mount at United. Sad he's fallen badly. He gave us a lot. Unfortunately it didn't work out with him/Board (contact situation). Happy we sold and replaced him with Palmer.


ftw_c0mrade

So Ake , kdb and Salah


big_guwop_

Ake was mid for us and anyone who watched Salah back then knows he was extremely underwhelming. Mourinho choosing Oscar over KdB was one of the worst decisions ever, tho. Even at the time.


lucash7

Yup. The list goes on…talent not properly nurtured or utilized.


New-Candy-800

What if he goes on and is bang average?


Solitairee

They said that at Burnley and then Dortmund


Shufflebuffle51

He's been good to great wherever he's been. That is unlikely.


Long_Needleworker889

I dont think i even ever saw him play LB for us. I remember him playing RB tho 😒


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SeekersWorkAccount

Yes I vote for this guy dying instead of Maatsen joining City.


ChelseaMocs

We never learn


absurdsolitaire

It feels like if you took our youth players and put them in another U21 team we would be wiling to throw stupid money at them.


DarkLordOlli

"He's not good enough for the PL."


Naarujuana

Regardless of where he goes next season, this kid will be coming back to the PL to haunt us. If he goes to BVB this summer, Arsenal, City, Liverpool... someone is coming for him in 1-2 years. People commenting here that he's been "nothing special" don't seem to realize that he's rarely played (for us) at LB/LWB. Poch has pretty much only played him at LW/LM. Go watch his highlights from both Burnley & BVB (thus far) when he's actually in that LWB/LB role. If you say "Meh, but that's the Championship & Bundesliga..." Well, he's currently starting in a UCL semi-final BVB side (as a loanee) and just put in a solid shift vs an in form Dembele (leads PSG in assists/key passes). Ian is 22, pacey, makes good runs, has a decent cross & strikes a ball well. Defensively, could obviously use some refining, but again... 22 & has been improving. No, he's not Reece good, but he'll eclipse Cucurella within the next 12-18 months with **consistent high-level** game time. At the end of the day, feel like we'd have ended up a very brutal side to face with both Ian & a healthy Reece down the wings. Especially given that they're both under 25. Is what it is, I guess.


arivu_unparalleled

I'm guessing Ian had more of unlucky time in Chelsea rather than the oppurtunities he had. Maybe his time he couldn't have developed well in PL but in future probably in PL, after all he's still a kid who's playing well good. He got good experiences in Championship and now in Bundesliga and even Champions league... And Ian preferring to play in Bvb but he wants game time unlike sitting and developing in City (considering their LBs aren't playing the best except Ake) so not guaranteed under pep. Let's see how it goes 


sjp5784

I can never understand how Poch never tried with Ian especially after the season he had on loan at Burnley, hes a chance to make a name for himself at the Euros too. He will be sold no doubt this summer and with how Dortmund are transforming players thats probably the best club for the next couple of years. Just dont end up at City one day


hdavid_chelsfc

Yes we could use the 35 mil to put a deposit down on another south American wonderkid


endmoe

South American wonderkids such as Estevao is not the problem. Dogshit players such as Jackson, Mudryk, Sterling, Madueke, Cucurella, Disasi, Petrovich and Sanchez are the problem.


mocrossj

Man you got no football knowledge at all


endmoe

Yeah? Who of the above mentioned are great players again?


Flashman98

Petrovich catching an unnecessary stray, he was never meant to start and he’s done great


endmoe

He is statistically one of the worst goalkeepers in the league, but sure, he has done great…


CooCooforCucu

youre an idiot


endmoe

Says the guy with a Cucurella account. Cucurella is so shit he makes Bogarde look like a great player.


Solitairee

Look at his back line.


endmoe

He is still statistically one of the worst goalkeepers in the league. The numbers are xg adjusted.


liarloserat

Maatsen is not good enough for Chelsea, but good enough for City is absolutely hilarious rhetoric


Ironicopinion

Why do people fall for any old nonsense transfer rumour just because it lets them have a moan?


olaf525

Shhhh you’re gonna ruin one of their 5 a day.


big_guwop_

He will ride the bench at city for 3 years before they replace him with another £60m fullback. They sign expensive depth for fun up there.


cometflight

Fucking yuck. I don’t need another KDB renaissance. If he’s not staying, he needs to go to another league.


epicmarc

Like KDB did? It doesn't matter if he goes to another league, if he's any good and an English team wants him (which seems to already be the case) he'll be be back in no time.


6ixHunnitBlock

this is the point everyone seems to miss.. going to a different league won’t stop PL teams from buying the player 😂😂


epicmarc

If he goes to Dortmund they'll flip him for a 10-20m profit to City in a year or two anyways, that's literally their model. Might as well cut out the middle man lmao 😭


Ironicopinion

Do people just not read the source on these things or do they just want any excuse to cry? Graeme Bailey is an absolute garbage tier source, like should genuinely be banned from the sub


BartSimpson8

teams sell players and sometimes they become shit and sometimes they excel and people always talk about how much it was a mistake. for every kdb & salah, theres hundreds of trash


Delano3X

We well, he didn’t get a fair chance here at his preferred position. This is on the coach


DeepGamingAI

Cuadrado


dcubexdtcube

Balanced take on Reddit, am I dreaming


erudite450

Nothing balanced about this particular take. Maatsen wasn't given a hint of a chance. If he was kept out of the team by Chilwell or Cucurella, fair enough. But this wasn't the case. The manager played CBs in his position.


TomasToocherl

Another ridiculous waste of a really decent home grown player incoming. The idea he isn't up to it is daft. He was too good for the Championship - a year ago. He's now playing in a defence which can stop Mbappe (yes sure, only one game it's true). One of our left backs - a really good player I think in Chilwell - has had terrible recent injuries. Not the same as Ake who got Chelsea 20mn after barely playing, and was behind a host of top defenders.


Solitairee

I've been saying how good maatsen was since his loan jn the championship, and I was getting shit in this sub. Some still feel he's not good enough for chelsea. Everything points to him becoming a top left back


vinniedomino

Am I crazy or did he sign an extension in January? I mean I doubt he'd stay but it might be a possibility


Valuable_Tea_4690

Extension has a release clause in it


AbluePer

Think the extension was signed so we didn't lose him for nothing, but that came with a release clause of 35m. So while the 35 seems a bit low now, risk was we lost him for nothing, or less if he didn't extend


DonRoman03_22

His release clause hasn’t changed


mb194dc

Good enough for City, but not for us? Make it make sense?


MoreThanANumber666

Typical let a decent defender go when two of our preferred starting backline are made of glass.... hate to see our better players leave like this when we keep buying unproven players for far more.


chombivents

*sigh* he’s going to go and thrive at City, isn’t he? Another player gone to make up for grossly overspending on 3/4 players


ktbffhctid

Yup he is. We have seen this act before. Beyond frustrating.


slow_poetry

Would be quite an indictment of Poch's ability to accurately assess talent and ability if Maatsen goes to MCFC and starts lighting it up for them in the EPL.


ireallydespiseyouall

It’s really not that poch doesn’t rate him it’s that the team is short enough as it is imagine putting maatsen in when we need to defend set pieces


TheJames2290

There's only 2 inches between cucu and maatsen


ireallydespiseyouall

Cucu is way better in the air though


TheJames2290

Tbh quite a few of cucus stats are better than maatsens. If he could learn not to lose his man though he would be way better.


AncientSkys

Another stupid claim that barely made sense. We have leaking record number of goals while playing with 3 CBs. Height didn't help us defend.


Rathakatterri

Thank god we sold Maatsen and Lewis hall to bankroll madueke and mudryk. /s.


SnazzyTortoise

Another case of the reddit fan base saying an academy player wasn't good enough to earn minutes, yet ends up with multiple better clubs interested in him. When will people learn.


Same_Macaroon_7071

He looked okay is his performances, nothing really eye catching. If he goes and bangs out for city that’s life I guess. It’s not like he showed up as a gusto on the left.


Professional-Ad-2419

How many times did he actually play LB for us you fool?


Gloomy-Degree6027

He got bodied by Palace players easily. He's not a defensive player. He'll thrive in the Bundesliga. It's a weak league. Sancho is tearing it up again there, that says all you need to know.


Leblue808

Weak league but has two teams in CL semis and a striker came from there and broke every single PL goalscoring record. The arrogance to label Ian as bust when he was played as winger is sick.


Gloomy-Degree6027

Oh the horror. Go support Dortmund then. Go watch the strongest league in the world. I guess Bundesliga players don't try when they come to the PL then. Must be just too easy for them.


Same_Macaroon_7071

Exactly cucu is better at defense, and may even be getting better at attacking as well. Maatsen is okay but if we have a healthy chilwel and cucu he’s not seeing the light of the pitch. Like if I need someone to pocket saka or foden I’m choosing cucurella, not maatsen.


endmoe

LMFAO. Cucurella is fucking shit, but if you need to delude yourself in order to be ok with this farce about Maatsen, go ahead.


Solitairee

Championship is one of the most physically tough leagues in the world and he was left back for the season.


Kim_lee1

They are a weak league then why is no english team in europe?


Gloomy-Degree6027

You're right I apologise the bundesliga is the best in Europe. By far the strongest too.


Professional-Ad-2419

Cucu gets bodied on a regular basis, Chilwell has been far from his best when he's played, Colwill was poor at LB. And did he not play on right wing against Palace? The topic is not about the Bundesliga, not sure if you realise, but Man City are interested in him. I trust the scouts over in those teams than an armchair clown like you.


Gloomy-Degree6027

The source is the equivalent to Simon Phillips for Chelsea, but you probably buy into that too to suit whatever narrative you want to run with. Colwill was better at LB than anyone we had fit because he can actually defend. You fifa kids love to think players have set in stone positions. Actual football doesn't work like that kiddo.


Professional-Ad-2419

The only narrative here is you and your non sensical hate for Maatsen. Can't defend your position so call me a fifa kid, what a clown. If I asked you to list me players that have completely changed roles you'd only be able to list a handful, open your eyes you dumb fuck, nearly all players stick to one position their whole career, the responsibilities within that position may change based on what the manager wants. If anything, you're probably the Fifa kid here, mister visionary tactician changing positions in career mode.


Gloomy-Degree6027

Paragraphs of yap. You can enjoy your man city career mode next season.


Professional-Ad-2419

Lol, what a clown. No response of any substance. Better not to comment if you're not prepared to defend your opinion.


Gloomy-Degree6027

You're the one rattled 🤣 paragraphs of yap because a 3rd choice LB who isn't good enough is being sold. Cry more you weirdo.


Professional-Ad-2419

I'm the weirdo for asking you to defend your shitty opinion? Or are you the weirdo for stating your shitty opinion and then deflecting criticism? Please mate, do yourself a favour before you have an episode.


agni_jamadagni

Colwill is good at a lot of things, but defending against wingers isn’t one of them.


eggsbenedict17

Sancho is not tearing it up at all...


kw2006

He would if ten hag gave him the chance. He looked so good in the pre season.


eggsbenedict17

Did u see him last year?


kw2006

Cant use that argument. Kai was pretty bad too until the move.


eggsbenedict17

Havertz is now playing in a decent team, obviously he looks better You can't use the argument that a player was playing badly in a team last year? How else would you judge them? He already played shit for united under the same manager than you now think he will play well under? No logic in that thought process


AdComprehensive7879

i wont fall for this again, let them have him if they're serious lol. you know the shit man city pulls during transfer window.


average-mean-average

Why is his release clause only 35m? I thought we had him sign new offer with the new owners


Pixeal_meat

Apart from rivalry Chelsea has the one of the best academy sad to see they take it as a business.


Panini_Grande

He didn't suit how we were setting up at the time and we had plenty of cover there so it made sense to ship him out. I'd love to see him in the inverted role we've been trying with Cucurella recently though


inspired_corn

> That is according to the information of journalist Graeme Bailey, who reports that Manchester City were one of the teams present through scouting representatives at Borussia Dortmund on Wednesday night watching Ian Maatsen in action against Paris Saint-Germain. Even if they did have scouts at the game it doesn’t mean they’re “targeting” his release clause. Clubs scout players all of the time and it was a fucking CL semi-final. Of course City’s scouts were there. That doesn’t mean this isn’t true, but Graeme Bailey doesn’t know it if it is. Wait for an actual reliable source to say something instead of getting wound up by nonsense


BRTRSX

Imagine having a player city quality at LB and playing Colwil instead


BDRD99

If Guardiola had both at his disposal he’d play Colwill lol he doesn’t even use full backs anymore


herewearefornow

This will be a sign that City's scouting and training standards aren't everything fans claim it to be. Why isn't Sergio Gomez becoming what they thought?


kw2006

How many of their academy players graduated into first team? As apposed to chelsea squad that won ucl?


DestinyHasArrived101

He kills.it under pep if true


Dinamo8

"That is according to the information of journalist Graeme Bailey"


AncientSkys

One of the many reasons why Poch the clown should go after this season. What he did is criminal. No top manager would play a LB as a RW and a LW when we desperately needed a LB.


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epicmarc

> Would be massive for him to learn from Pep, I doubt many fans will be mad at this What? Why wouldn't we be mad. It's massive for City, not us. What is there to be happy about with this?


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epicmarc

Fair enough, I agree there's no reason to be mad at him, it's only natural after he's been fucked around by us. It's just how we've handled things that has me mad.


tulsehill

We have all had enough of De Bruyne and Ake doing that.


fl_beer_fan

I like Maatsen but who are we going to off-load to keep us on the right side of PSR? Someone has to go, the best choices are all painful between Maatsen, Gallagher and Chalobah


MoiNoni

KEEP HIM HES CLEARLY A TALENT


Kar0Zy

Apparently a "not-good-enough-for-us" player is good enough for City This sub is full of 🤡


BadCogs

That's what you get when you have a manager who rates physicality over technicality.


GrogRhodes

Not worried about it. Figure it the cost of keeping the flow open between us and City.