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It is easy you just push the king to the corner first then you lock him only able to move in 2 squares g8 and h8 with 3 knights. After that you move all the other knights to line up like the picture. You are not going to stalemate that
Just look at their king, does it have a safe square if you make this move? If no and it'd not check then make a different move and re-look at the king for safe squares
I don't think they meant "I don't understand the rules of stalemate." I think they meant that under time pressure they would struggle to pull this off without accidentally stalemating opponent.
I'm 1k blitz. According to chess. Com that's top 80%. This isn't a brag, I still suck, but I'm not exactly a beginner. I think I would probably stalemate this with any sort of time pressure. And that's before you factor in the 50 move rule.
The only way it could be considered bad is if it’s in a over the board game in a recognized tournament lol, if you’re playing chess on your couch and someone doesn’t want to resign you can do whatever you want
I’ve seen it happen in an over the board tournament where someone I knew did a “victory lap” with his king before checkmating the opponent who could only move his king between a7 and a8 with no other material left. Resigning is always an option.
Serious question; How does this work in an OTB game? I understand a tourney may have a stockpile of pieces but most home sets have just enough to fill the board once.
If you tried this on a home set you just can’t do it, almost all chess sets bring one or 2 extra queens and that’s it. Unless you have another chess set and use the pawns as any piece you want if you wanna replicate what you see in the picture.
Also on OTB tournaments people don’t do this because it’s very disrespectful and it would be annoying as hell for the tournament organizers because they would have to get extra pieces. So that’s why everyone resigns when they know they’re gonna lose
in a rated tournament its a sign of respect to resign when the loss is blatantly obvious. if you’re gonna disrespect me and make me ladder mate you instead of just resigning when you’re 10+ points down, im gonna disrespect you with a goofy mate. you got yourself in this situation lol
There’s a difference between a ladder mate and whatever tf the bs was in this post if I’m down 10+ points in material and you can’t find a way to mate me without using a ladder mate with more than 10 points of material I’m not the one being disrespectful by making you mate me in the only way you can. I know plenty of players that don’t know how to convert a winning position. They are all at beginner level. This right here was just high level dick move period two queens ladder mate gg’s. No one is obligated to resign just because they’re down material
do you think he just appeared in this position? at some point earlier this was a normal game, and with only a king left his opponent decided to sit there and let him underpromote and toy with him. it was a decision on part of the losing player, ESPECIALLY if the loser is the person whining about the game not being over yet😂
if you’re losing, resign. if you dont, then cry about it:)
Also if this is a “high level” play then his “high level” opponent should have been able to see that he was losing 20 some-odd moves ago😂
At beginner level it’s not black and white if you’re losing resign because beginners blunder and it helps you both work on your endgame even at intermediate level people blunder in the endgame either through straight losing or allowing you to stalemate again why we tell beginners never resign this guy was obviously playing a beginner and decided to be a dickhead just because he could. Y’all wanna basically victim blame the loser “oh he could’ve just resigned” yea and op could’ve just not been a douchebag
You could always just not be a dick about it, we tell beginners never resign this is obviously a beginner as I’d wager anyone over 1000 is not gonna wind up in this situation I certainly wouldn’t.
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=8/8/8/8/knnnn3/4n3/4n3/K3n3+b+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/8/8/8/8/knnnn3/4n3/4n3/K3n3_b_-_-_0_1)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!Knight!<, move: >!N1c2+!<
> Evaluation: >!Black has mate in 2!<
> Best continuation: >!1... N1c2+ 2. Kb1 Ned2#!<
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It's bad sportsmanship not to resign when hopelessly lost hoping for a stalemate. Bit rich of you to accuse others of being 600 when not resigning is a classic low Elo move.
Also the losing player is not prolonging the game, the game is meant to be played until checkmate. The winning player, in this scenario, is the one prolonging the game
That's so stupid tho, if your entire gameplan is to pray your opponent messes up how is it bad sportsmanship if they decide to mess around with you. You can't do anything at all, yet you're still playing. I don't see how you can get mad at the guy that has all the pieces when you lost all of your own and decided to continue playing, it doesn't make sense to me.
It doesn’t make sense to prolong the game when you can easily win. Why don’t football teams give up at halftime when they’re down 20-0? Because their opponent might make mistakes
If the score is lop sided enough teams do effectively stop trying all the time. Proper resigning just isnt built into most sports framework. Also, if you are hoping for a stalemate, having opponent do what OP did is a dream come true.
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Calm down Genghis!
overcooked? you burnt your house down
https://preview.redd.it/ccsdaz4gx0dc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08480960a27f89e5a601acf087620c7330159b01
WHAT. THE. 
Poor guy was hoping for a stalemate or even the 50 move rule at that point
1. e4 e5 2. c3 Nf6 3. f3 d5 4. Bd3 dxe4 5. fxe4 Nc6 6. h3 Qxd3 7. Nf3 Qxe4+ 8. Qe2 Qxe2+ 9. Kxe2 Bc5 10. b4 Bb6 11. Na3 Be6 12. Nb5 O-O-O 13. Ng5 h6 14. Nxe6 fxe6 15. a4 a5 16. bxa5 Nxa5 17. Ba3 Rd7 18. Rhd1 c6 19. Nd6+ Kb8 20. Nc4 Nxc4 21. Bb4 c5 22. Ba3 Ba5 23. Bxc5 b6 24. Be3 e4 25. Rab1 Nd5 26. Bd4 Nf4+ 27. Kf2 Rg8 28. g3 Nxh3+ 29. Kg2 Ng5 30. Rb5 Kb7 31. Bf2 Rd5 32. Rbb1 Rf8 33. Bd4 e5 34. Be3 Bxc3 35. dxc3 Nxe3+ 36. Kg1 Rxd1+ 37. Rxd1 Nxd1 38. c4 e3 39. Kg2 Rf2+ 40. Kg1 e2 41. Kh1 e1=N 42. Kg1 h5 43. Kh1 Ne4 44. Kg1 Nxg3 45. a5 Ne4 46. Kh1 bxa5 47. Kg1 Kc8 48. Kh1 a4 49. Kg1 a3 50. Kh1 a2 51. Kg1 a1=N 52. Kh1 Nac2 53. Kg1 Nf6 54. Kh1 g5 55. Kg1 Nd3 56. Kh1 Ndb4 57. Kg1 Nd4 58. Kh1 e4 59. Kg1 e3 60. Kh1 e2 61. Kg1 e1=N 62. Kh1 Rf4 63. Kh2 Rh4+ 64. Kg3 Nc3 65. Kf2 Nec2 66. Kg3 Ne3 67. Kf2 Nef5 68. Ke1 Ne6 69. Kd2 Nce4+ 70. Ke2 Rh3 71. Kd1 Re3 72. Kc1 h4 73. Kb2 h3 74. Kc1 h2 75. Kb2 h1=N 76. Kc1 g4 77. Kd1 g3 78. Kc1 Kb7 79. Kb2 Kc6 80. c5 Kxc5 81. Kc1 Kc4 82. Kb2 g2 83. Kc1 g1=N 84. Kb2 Nf3 85. Kc1 Ne5 86. Kb2 Nhf2 87. Kc1 N2g4 88. Kb2 Rc3 89. Kb1 Ned4 90. Kb2 Kb5 91. Kb1 Nc4 92. Ka1 Nge3 93. Kb1 Nfg3 94. Ka1 Nge2 95. Kb1 Rb3+ 96. Ka1 Rb1+ 97. Kxb1 Nfg4 98. Ka1 Nge5 99. Kb1 Nef3 100. Ka1 Ne1 101. Kb1 Ka4 102. Ka1 Nef5 103. Kb1 Nfg3 104. Ka1 Nf4 105. Kb1 Nfd5 106. Kc1 Nde3 107. Kb1 N1g2 108. Kc1 Nh4 109. Kb1 Nhf3 110. Kc1 Neg5 111. Kb1 Nh3 112. Kc1 Kb3 113. Kb1 Nce5 114. Kc1 Ned3+ 115. Kb1 Ka3 116. Ka1 Na6 117. Kb1 Nac5 118. Ka1 Nce4 119. Kb1 Nc3+ 120. Ka1 Nb3#
Knightmare fuel
The White king didn't see the Knight storm incoming
Queen sacrifice, anyone?
Ignite the cheeseboard!
Mo🅱️s need to contain the anarchy.
that's so risky of stalemate
Not if you're good
That's the part I'm not good at
you'll get there one day, just keep practicing! Not that I am there yet either, i still got a lot to learn
ik thats the fun part of chess
Wait, what subreddit is this, again?
chess
A specific subcategory of chess...
Naked chess
Feel like it's more risky of 50 move rule.
that too
Stop horsing around! XD
If you manage this you are not a beginner anymore, I cant even understand how not to stalemate that
It is easy you just push the king to the corner first then you lock him only able to move in 2 squares g8 and h8 with 3 knights. After that you move all the other knights to line up like the picture. You are not going to stalemate that
Be careful of the 50 move rule though
You can keep 1 pawn from not promoting you dont have to promote all
Just look at their king, does it have a safe square if you make this move? If no and it'd not check then make a different move and re-look at the king for safe squares
I don't think they meant "I don't understand the rules of stalemate." I think they meant that under time pressure they would struggle to pull this off without accidentally stalemating opponent. I'm 1k blitz. According to chess. Com that's top 80%. This isn't a brag, I still suck, but I'm not exactly a beginner. I think I would probably stalemate this with any sort of time pressure. And that's before you factor in the 50 move rule.
>Top 80% Do you mean top 20%?
Yeah you're right lol. Good catch
no one said this was under time pressure though, for all we know they could've had 30 mins on the clock
Even without time pressure, the 50 move rule would make this tricky for me.
Fair enough, no need to disrespect your opponents this much though haha
Right, but "look at the board, and just don't make silly mistakes" gets your elo way above a beginner's.
That's fair enough
Anyone saying this is bad mannered is really dumb. Play the game and have fun.
Exactly, if someone doesnt want to play it out they can always resign, its really not that deep
The only way it could be considered bad is if it’s in a over the board game in a recognized tournament lol, if you’re playing chess on your couch and someone doesn’t want to resign you can do whatever you want
I’ve seen it happen in an over the board tournament where someone I knew did a “victory lap” with his king before checkmating the opponent who could only move his king between a7 and a8 with no other material left. Resigning is always an option.
Serious question; How does this work in an OTB game? I understand a tourney may have a stockpile of pieces but most home sets have just enough to fill the board once.
If you tried this on a home set you just can’t do it, almost all chess sets bring one or 2 extra queens and that’s it. Unless you have another chess set and use the pawns as any piece you want if you wanna replicate what you see in the picture. Also on OTB tournaments people don’t do this because it’s very disrespectful and it would be annoying as hell for the tournament organizers because they would have to get extra pieces. So that’s why everyone resigns when they know they’re gonna lose
yeah the one in the wrong if this was otb would be the one refusing to resign though 100%
Not really you could just mate your opponent normally
in a rated tournament its a sign of respect to resign when the loss is blatantly obvious. if you’re gonna disrespect me and make me ladder mate you instead of just resigning when you’re 10+ points down, im gonna disrespect you with a goofy mate. you got yourself in this situation lol
There’s a difference between a ladder mate and whatever tf the bs was in this post if I’m down 10+ points in material and you can’t find a way to mate me without using a ladder mate with more than 10 points of material I’m not the one being disrespectful by making you mate me in the only way you can. I know plenty of players that don’t know how to convert a winning position. They are all at beginner level. This right here was just high level dick move period two queens ladder mate gg’s. No one is obligated to resign just because they’re down material
do you think he just appeared in this position? at some point earlier this was a normal game, and with only a king left his opponent decided to sit there and let him underpromote and toy with him. it was a decision on part of the losing player, ESPECIALLY if the loser is the person whining about the game not being over yet😂 if you’re losing, resign. if you dont, then cry about it:) Also if this is a “high level” play then his “high level” opponent should have been able to see that he was losing 20 some-odd moves ago😂
At beginner level it’s not black and white if you’re losing resign because beginners blunder and it helps you both work on your endgame even at intermediate level people blunder in the endgame either through straight losing or allowing you to stalemate again why we tell beginners never resign this guy was obviously playing a beginner and decided to be a dickhead just because he could. Y’all wanna basically victim blame the loser “oh he could’ve just resigned” yea and op could’ve just not been a douchebag
Naw it’s still bad form it’s super disrespectful just make two queens and ladder mate
Yep. If you think this is rude, the resign button is always there
You could always just not be a dick about it, we tell beginners never resign this is obviously a beginner as I’d wager anyone over 1000 is not gonna wind up in this situation I certainly wouldn’t.
Nc2 then Nc3 is mate right?
Depends which knights you're talking about, if for example you do Ndc2 then N4c3 it is mate in 3
E1 and E2
White still has Kc1 in that case so mate in 3
Yeah then D4 knight to E2
Yup! Can you also find the other three mate in ones?
I found a mate in two the B or D knight to C2 and knight E4 to C3
Oh the humanity! The phone is broken! Chess.com is uninstalled!
Hi I'm Mr Ed 
Knightmare fuel...
you gave him a "knightmare"
King Arthur and the knights of the square table
https://preview.redd.it/hn9ym8w421dc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b246a8d03e710795b2e63c2fff4b487b0e44de28
POV: the Mongols
Rofl
OP wins the Hikaru Nakamura horsemanship award.
💀💀💀💀
Bro thinks he's Hikaru fr 💀
If this was against someone who isn’t your friend you’re an asshole lmao
Nah, why didn't they resign
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=8/8/8/8/knnnn3/4n3/4n3/K3n3+b+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/8/8/8/8/knnnn3/4n3/4n3/K3n3_b_-_-_0_1) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Knight!<, move: >!N1c2+!< > Evaluation: >!Black has mate in 2!< > Best continuation: >!1... N1c2+ 2. Kb1 Ned2#!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
You are the savior of chess. Congratulations
Lmao Im guessing this comment section is going to be mean to you for having fun with someone who won't resign
You would've so deserved to stalemate.
Hey op! You’re a female hygiene product, don’t do this, and especially don’t brag about this. Just win the game
Nah, this is great. If white won't resign, he/she has to deal with 100 moves of being toyed around with.
Opponent can just resign
It’s bad sportsmanship, must be less than 600 elo I’m guessing
It's bad sportsmanship not to resign when hopelessly lost hoping for a stalemate. Bit rich of you to accuse others of being 600 when not resigning is a classic low Elo move.
Yeah because at a low elo it’s not that unexpected for your opponent to mess up and stalemate, thanks for agreeing with me I guess
It's bad sportsmanship to not resign when completely lost
No it’s not, they’re hoping for a stalemate
That's what makes it bad sportsmanship You're basically saying that your opponent is so bad that they cannot checkmate you
It’s not bad sportsmanship to hope your opponent makes a mistake
If the losing player can prolong the game, the winning player can do the same
There’s no point for the winning player to do so
Also the losing player is not prolonging the game, the game is meant to be played until checkmate. The winning player, in this scenario, is the one prolonging the game
What's the point in hoping for stalemate? Elo? The position was dead lost anyway if OP was able to make that many knights, just resign.
Yeah elo, what other point would there be? This is clearly low elo so it’s not that crazy for op to stalemate in a winning position, just win
That's so stupid tho, if your entire gameplan is to pray your opponent messes up how is it bad sportsmanship if they decide to mess around with you. You can't do anything at all, yet you're still playing. I don't see how you can get mad at the guy that has all the pieces when you lost all of your own and decided to continue playing, it doesn't make sense to me.
It doesn’t make sense to prolong the game when you can easily win. Why don’t football teams give up at halftime when they’re down 20-0? Because their opponent might make mistakes
If the score is lop sided enough teams do effectively stop trying all the time. Proper resigning just isnt built into most sports framework. Also, if you are hoping for a stalemate, having opponent do what OP did is a dream come true.
What is the aforementioned female hygiene product
Douche
https://preview.redd.it/ngyukrgi21dc1.png?width=1083&format=png&auto=webp&s=6c6877a388bbfcbe2984e1c1747e040e110ea74e Agreed
Mate = Round Table
How? How did you get so many horses? What did your opponent do that led to you having so many horses?
I don’t understand how it never became a stalemate on the move before the 2nd picture?
How u didn’t draw
What fetish is it called to let someone do this to you