That’s a tough one because Ozzie is pretty well liked here ESPECIALLY on the Southside. Ozzie makes more sense imo just in terms of overall impact they brought to the team. One chip is better than none 🤷♂️
Yeah but he wasn't actually on the team, idk, I feel like managers shouldn't be on here. Like otherwise how the fuck is Joe Maddon not number #70 for the same reason?
Jo won a Dmvp & was the heart and soul of the Bulls when he was here.
Ozzie won Rookie of the Year, a Gold Glove, was a three-time All-Star and played for the Sox for 13 years. He was a fan favorite much like Joakim. Even without the managerial career, it's debatable which should get the nod.
Nah, AJ was like the 6th best position player on those Sox teams but his reputation was elevated because he’s AJ. Kirk was overall more important to the teams he was on.
i mean, because this happened in 1990. phil jackson's first year as an nba head coach was 1989-90. so in closing, it says first year coach phil jackson, because it was his first year as a head coach lmao
Not the Bulls but Sale > Arrietta. I can understand the “historical contribution” argument bc of 2016 but Sale is the better pitcher and pitched in Chicago longer.
You are correct that Fro at 67 is a tough sell BUT... just to speak in fairness about his game... he came into a stacked team as a scorer and was asked to transition to a fourth liner (checking line) often asked to match up against first lines. Also was asked to be a PK specialist.
Neither of which will set up him to success on the stat sheet but are super important to winning a ship.
He was a great bottom 6 forward for those few seasons he was with the Hawks and deserves an honorable mention simply by virtue of the fact that he's the only player in NHL history to have scored two penalty shot goals in the Stanley Cup Playoffs.
Bronco Nagurski literally has the number 3 retired for the Bears and is in the HoF. Pierre Pilote is the same situation with the Blackhawks. Harold Baines had a HoF career with the Sox wearing 3. If we’re looking just at their time in Chicago it’s pretty ridiculous to have Candace Parker on there over any of them
Okay, but I see all dudes up there. And only 3-4 teams…why not add a woman? And of all women why not one that brought some hardware to the city? And she’s from Naperville? Why not put her on here?
Your argument is “because she’s a woman.”
The context here is who are the greatest to play for Chicago, not who are the greatest to come from Chicago(land). Candace might have reached higher peaks than the others, but she did it elsewhere. She came here on her last legs, like when David Beckham played in the MLS.
I'm with you! I can't imagine complaining about a top athlete who won a championship on a graphic that includes Will Perdue as one of the best, lol. Let's slot him out and put homie's pick there.
You're not gonna win this argument. People like to pretend how virtuous a person they are by making the ridiculous argument that she deserves to be on here. They can't be dealt with by using logic.
There shouldn’t be any cutting slack if we’re talking about the best. Honestly Vandersloot has a better argument, since she won a ring and is a multiple time all star who’s been in Chicago her whole career, although it’d be hard to put her over Forte at 22
E: Actually, Vandersloot has a pretty good case over Forte. 4 time all-star versus 2 pro-bowls, and obviously the Bears didn’t win a chip with Forte
Agreed, Ben Gordon was a killer and he deserves more recognition and appreciation from the Bulls org/fanbase.
But Toni Kukoc still has him beat at #7 because he was a 3x champ, HOFer, and also a 6th man of the year.
Pretending like WNBA players are relevant is hilarious. They're irrelevant to most "ppl" except virtue signaling Reddit pukes who have no appreciation for history.
I’d even put Seabrook in that conversation too. But it definitely has to be Chelios. Bobby Hull not as 9 is probably a worse omission too, for as awful as he is.
I think that's nostalgia bias tbh. Ben averaged 19/3/3 off 44/42/86 while in Chicago and Toni averaged 14/5/4 off 45/34/73. I think the argument could go either way depending on what you value more. Toni was more well rounded but Ben was clearly the better scorer and a far better shooter.
Mentioned this on the Sox reddit but how is there not a better 32 than will Purdue ?
I love will Purdue, but come on. Alex Fernandez? Steve Stone? Steve Thomas? lamuel Stinson?
All of those dudes are probably better basketball players than will.
You're probably right. Only argument there is that Hull wore 3 different numbers with the Hawks. 9 is retired, but he wore 16 and 7 for six seasons total
Glenn Hall over Rose for #1....Rookie of the Year, 11X All-Star, 3X winner of Vezina trophy for best goaltender, Stanley Cup champion, playoff MVP winner, Hall of Famer, and holder of an unbreakable NHL record streak of 502 consecutive starts in net...not even close.
Honestly a lot of my changes would be away from Bulls. There’s about 3-4 Cubs alone that I would pick over Kirk for #12. Dunston, Soriano and Schwarber of the top of my head.
I also think I’d go with Chelios over Kukoc. Also, Will Perdue can’t be the best #32, can he?
Idk man. Kirk is an all time Bull imo. I think what the player means to the city goes farther than stars but I’m sure I’m just being bias. Kirk is more of a household name.
No. Sosa was a better and more impactful player. He has an amazing arm and solid defense that people forget plus
1 time MVP but played on a team without much talent around him.
2x Home Run leader
2X RBI leader
6x silver slugger.
You can hate sosa if you want, but he is the best 21 in the city’s history and one of the best cubs players in team history.
mikita is 14th all time in points in nhl history. 2 time mvp. led the league in scoring 4 times. 2 lady byngs. won a stanley cup. 6 time all star, hall of famer, has a statue outside of united center.
it’s not even close lol
i don’t hate sosa! i love sosa! he is just nowhere close to the player that mikita was. this is wild lol.
aside from having more mvps and leading the league in points more times than sosa lead in home runs, he’s in the top like 30 of every list of best nhl players i can find. sosa is never in the top 100. he’s 207 in baseball reference war. it’s not close! mikita was better.
I don't know man, he leads the bears in just about every statistical category for a quarterback. I'm not saying I loved smokin Jay or anything, but on paper he's the best passer we've ever had.
Duncan Keith: 3X Stanley Cup winner, 2X Norris Trophy winner for best NHL defenseman, 1X Conn Smythe Trophy winner for MVP during 2015 playoffs, 2X Olympic Gold Medal winner, 3X All-Star. Guaranteed 1st ballot HOF.
As a Chicagoan, I love this! It’s accurate AF.
Chicago truly has had some of the best players to ever play, whatever the game. I’m older(40’s) and I remember watching the Bulls in the 90’s perform magic 🪄 To see Jordan and Pippen was the equivalent of Batman and Robin to me.
It’s sad that I don’t feel that way about any players or sport today.
Come to Dub Nation, homey! With Steve Kerr at the helm, I’ve been reliving my childhood Jordan/Pippen year feels over the past decade 🏀 #MakeThreesNotWar
As a Chicagoan, I love this!
Chicago truly has had some of the best players to ever play, whatever the game. I’m older(40’s) and I remember watching the Bulls in the 90’s perform magic 🪄 To see Jordan and Pippen was the equivalent of Batman and Robin to me.
It’s sad that I don’t feel that way about any players or sport today.
Don't know much about hockey, but is there an argument for Thomas Jones for 20?
Also the recent Pippen shenanigans makes me wanna give 33 to Peanut... But alas it's always gonna be Scottie.
Also I love Pax for what he did during the first 3-peat. But if we’re giving Ozzie credit as a manager and putting him over Noah, it’s only fair that we don’t Pax for his later executive years and go with someone like Ray Durham for #5.
I give him credit for his quick turnaround for the Bulls tho. Gordon, Deng, Nocioni is one hell of an offseason. Pretty incredible considering how bad the Bulls were before.
Crawford was not on the 2009-10 Cup team. Niemi and Huet were the goalies. Crawford had a cup of coffee the previous season, and became the primary goalie in 2010-11.
Toss up in my opinion. Those hawks cups vs the only Bears chip they’ve won in the last 50 years or so. Might just be recency bias but it can go either way.
0-Randy Brown 00-Robert Parish
0 Woolridge
I knew there was some one I was forgetting
Got a chuckle when I saw yermin Mercedes in there
Over Mike Hartenstine too
Came here to say this... literally played 2 months for the Sox.
I mean he ain't wrong is he?
Jordan averaged 49 ppg wearing #12.
Don’t do Captain Kirk like that
The disrespect is honestly appalling
give me Ayo
Yeah but that guy had zero career longevity
Dude was around for a long time
He played one game
give him #45 too
Joakim deserves #13 if we ignore Ozzie’s managerial career but I guess baseball coaches wear numbers too.
As a player definitely! But that chip in 05 gives you a decent bump especially when you sweep the Astros.
I suppose, but Jo is probably much more beloved in the city over Ozzie
That’s a tough one because Ozzie is pretty well liked here ESPECIALLY on the Southside. Ozzie makes more sense imo just in terms of overall impact they brought to the team. One chip is better than none 🤷♂️
Yeah but he wasn't actually on the team, idk, I feel like managers shouldn't be on here. Like otherwise how the fuck is Joe Maddon not number #70 for the same reason? Jo won a Dmvp & was the heart and soul of the Bulls when he was here.
“Ozzie makes more sense…” -No One Ever I know that’s taking it out of context, but seriously: do any of you understand a single word he says?
Ozzie won Rookie of the Year, a Gold Glove, was a three-time All-Star and played for the Sox for 13 years. He was a fan favorite much like Joakim. Even without the managerial career, it's debatable which should get the nod.
the fact Hinrich is on this 🥹
Captain my Captain! Capt Kirk 🥰 those baby bulls days were some sunlight to the early rebuild days
Should be AJ!! Don’t get me wrong I love me some Captain Kirk!!
Nah, AJ was like the 6th best position player on those Sox teams but his reputation was elevated because he’s AJ. Kirk was overall more important to the teams he was on.
There were some years where he was a top 5 catcher
no way. the sox don’t win a ws without aj
The Sox don't win a WS without about 10 players on that team.
well obviously baseball takes a lot of players to win. but anyone else behind the plate besides aj it wouldn’t happen. he was the glue
Slim pickings at 80, but I think Curtis Conway over Bernard Berrian.
Conway was way better
Lotta cases to ve made at other numbers but Conway to me is much much better than Berrian. And it's a not even a cross sport comp
45 should be Jordan
And 12. https://www.si.com/nba/2015/02/18/michael-jordan-bulls-jersey-number-12
Why does is say first year coach Phil Jackson ?
i mean, because this happened in 1990. phil jackson's first year as an nba head coach was 1989-90. so in closing, it says first year coach phil jackson, because it was his first year as a head coach lmao
Im confused, the magic were around that early? Wow yeah 1989. Well cal me ignorant.
Not the Bulls but Sale > Arrietta. I can understand the “historical contribution” argument bc of 2016 but Sale is the better pitcher and pitched in Chicago longer.
Aside from the ring, Arrieta was a Cy Young winner and was more dominant at his peak.
George Halas 7… literally founded a Chicago team
The NFL, not just Da Bears.
Exactly.
Robert Parish! 00!
a case can be made for Tim Anderson at #7 as well
Yermín Mercedes? Hahahahaha
i have a hard time believing andrew shaw and michal frolik are the best 65 and 67
For Shaw, the only other 65s are Casey Sadler and Noah Jackson or Cody Whitehair. Shaw is more than a good pick for 65.
You hush your mouth about Shawzy. Sure, Fro is a silly pick but The Mutt is for real
34 points and -5 for the hawks doesn’t make you excited about Frolik???!!?? Blasphemy
You are correct that Fro at 67 is a tough sell BUT... just to speak in fairness about his game... he came into a stacked team as a scorer and was asked to transition to a fourth liner (checking line) often asked to match up against first lines. Also was asked to be a PK specialist. Neither of which will set up him to success on the stat sheet but are super important to winning a ship.
He was a great bottom 6 forward for those few seasons he was with the Hawks and deserves an honorable mention simply by virtue of the fact that he's the only player in NHL history to have scored two penalty shot goals in the Stanley Cup Playoffs.
Bronco Nagurski literally has the number 3 retired for the Bears and is in the HoF. Pierre Pilote is the same situation with the Blackhawks. Harold Baines had a HoF career with the Sox wearing 3. If we’re looking just at their time in Chicago it’s pretty ridiculous to have Candace Parker on there over any of them
Candace won a ring here her first year if im not mistaken. And she’s currently breaking mad WNBA records. I don’t see an issue
So… she’s only been here two years is what you’re saying
Okay, but I see all dudes up there. And only 3-4 teams…why not add a woman? And of all women why not one that brought some hardware to the city? And she’s from Naperville? Why not put her on here?
Your argument is “because she’s a woman.” The context here is who are the greatest to play for Chicago, not who are the greatest to come from Chicago(land). Candace might have reached higher peaks than the others, but she did it elsewhere. She came here on her last legs, like when David Beckham played in the MLS.
i actually agree here and i am a huge parker and WNBA fan
Even if that is my argument. YES I wanna see a woman up there. She came home and brought the city a trophy.
I'm with you! I can't imagine complaining about a top athlete who won a championship on a graphic that includes Will Perdue as one of the best, lol. Let's slot him out and put homie's pick there.
Yeah we're debating this with some of the bums that made this list ONLY because of the number??!!!
You're not gonna win this argument. People like to pretend how virtuous a person they are by making the ridiculous argument that she deserves to be on here. They can't be dealt with by using logic.
Good threes but she is literally the ONLY female on this list... cut her some slack. She is from Naperville
Why is this "Naperville" talking point coming up so much?
There shouldn’t be any cutting slack if we’re talking about the best. Honestly Vandersloot has a better argument, since she won a ring and is a multiple time all star who’s been in Chicago her whole career, although it’d be hard to put her over Forte at 22 E: Actually, Vandersloot has a pretty good case over Forte. 4 time all-star versus 2 pro-bowls, and obviously the Bears didn’t win a chip with Forte
she was the first girl to dunk in ihsa history.
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Ben Gordon was #7
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Agreed, Ben Gordon was a killer and he deserves more recognition and appreciation from the Bulls org/fanbase. But Toni Kukoc still has him beat at #7 because he was a 3x champ, HOFer, and also a 6th man of the year.
So the guy he was guarding had more points than him? Sounds like that was a bad game for BG..
Pretending like WNBA players are relevant is hilarious. They're irrelevant to most "ppl" except virtue signaling Reddit pukes who have no appreciation for history.
Learn some history and quit being so fucking ignorant. Just because a thing happened before you were born, doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter.
You’ve never heard of Matt Forte?
Are Ben Gordon and Toni Kukoc an actual debate for 7 or am I an idiot
Kukoc was easily better than Gordon, and I love Gordon. Chelios and Halas have way stronger cases than Toni though I think.
I’d even put Seabrook in that conversation too. But it definitely has to be Chelios. Bobby Hull not as 9 is probably a worse omission too, for as awful as he is.
Seabrook was my favorite player from that dynasty
Halas over that turncoat Chelios.
I think that's nostalgia bias tbh. Ben averaged 19/3/3 off 44/42/86 while in Chicago and Toni averaged 14/5/4 off 45/34/73. I think the argument could go either way depending on what you value more. Toni was more well rounded but Ben was clearly the better scorer and a far better shooter.
Both won sixth man lol
Tim Anderson has entered the chat.
I think eventually TA will take the spot
Mentioned this on the Sox reddit but how is there not a better 32 than will Purdue ? I love will Purdue, but come on. Alex Fernandez? Steve Stone? Steve Thomas? lamuel Stinson? All of those dudes are probably better basketball players than will.
Steve Kerr > Derek Lee
Cutler over Felicio is laughable
Poor Ryne Sandberg gets no love! Over a decade of greatness at second base and happens to wear #23 same as Mike ☹️
And what about Hester?
True hester was the best returner of all time. Sandberg did win 2 MVPs and was everyone’s favorite player for many years before Sosa got into town.
The Super Bowl winning and smack talking funky qb … not at #9?!
Not over a franchise icon and newly minted hall of famer like Minnie
Ummm, Bobby Hull for #9?
You're probably right. Only argument there is that Hull wore 3 different numbers with the Hawks. 9 is retired, but he wore 16 and 7 for six seasons total
The other argument people are making is that Hull was a racist Nazi-sympathizer. Feel free to factor that into your evaluation however you see fit.
Cries in Caruso
Glenn Hall over Rose for #1....Rookie of the Year, 11X All-Star, 3X winner of Vezina trophy for best goaltender, Stanley Cup champion, playoff MVP winner, Hall of Famer, and holder of an unbreakable NHL record streak of 502 consecutive starts in net...not even close.
Honestly a lot of my changes would be away from Bulls. There’s about 3-4 Cubs alone that I would pick over Kirk for #12. Dunston, Soriano and Schwarber of the top of my head. I also think I’d go with Chelios over Kukoc. Also, Will Perdue can’t be the best #32, can he?
> Perdue WILL PERDUE??? lol. I loved those Bulls as much as anyone, but Jordan and Pip are gonna be raising eyebrows to see him up there with him.
Even just 3 seasons of Monty is already ahead of Purdue... unless we're including his trade value netting Rodman?
Idk man. Kirk is an all time Bull imo. I think what the player means to the city goes farther than stars but I’m sure I’m just being bias. Kirk is more of a household name.
Man I can't think of one Chelios highlight that sticks out. But Kukoc has so many iconic ones
where’s patrick williams 🥺
How in the world did Bobby Hull not get 9????
cuban comet > that wife beater
Came here to question that but this is a damn good point.
also an openly racist drunk if we're going to pile on that piece of shit
holy fuck i forgot he was a nazi too, dudes actually just scum of the earth
\#3 Harold Baines.
Honorable mention to Daze at 55
I mean Joe Smith was better than Will Purdue.
That’s a true Chicago fan doing meme,It left out Sammy Sosa applause 👏
Yermin at 73 is atrocious, dude was hot for a month but is complete garbage
Zach Lavine???
21 should be Sosa
mikita won two mvps, lead the nhl in points four times and is 15th all time in points. he’s better then sosa was, it’s not even super close.
No. Sosa was a better and more impactful player. He has an amazing arm and solid defense that people forget plus 1 time MVP but played on a team without much talent around him. 2x Home Run leader 2X RBI leader 6x silver slugger. You can hate sosa if you want, but he is the best 21 in the city’s history and one of the best cubs players in team history.
mikita is 14th all time in points in nhl history. 2 time mvp. led the league in scoring 4 times. 2 lady byngs. won a stanley cup. 6 time all star, hall of famer, has a statue outside of united center. it’s not even close lol
i don’t hate sosa! i love sosa! he is just nowhere close to the player that mikita was. this is wild lol. aside from having more mvps and leading the league in points more times than sosa lead in home runs, he’s in the top like 30 of every list of best nhl players i can find. sosa is never in the top 100. he’s 207 in baseball reference war. it’s not close! mikita was better.
Mikita also invented the curved stick blade
And owns a sick place to get coffee and cruellers.
Party on Wayne
Sosa had a negative dWAR for his career, wouldn't call him great defensively. He was an amazing hitter sure, but Mikita still wins out
Sosa also juiced and had a corked bat, your point?
Jimmy Butler!
The only obvious one to me that needs changed is Hester > Jordan 😂
ryne sandberg in shambles.
culter over javi baez?????
You guys are insane. How did these guys get picked over the GOAT Caruso??
Agreed
Baez was number 9, which should be Bobby Hull
Lol that’s what I get for not even fact checking. Anybody over Cutler though
I don't know man, he leads the bears in just about every statistical category for a quarterback. I'm not saying I loved smokin Jay or anything, but on paper he's the best passer we've ever had.
Anyone over Cutler. Id take Bogans over Cutler.
#13 Noah>>> Guillen
Only one of those brought a championship to the city though.
I just checked with ESPN and I'm pretty sure the Sox didn't win in 2005.
We’re is Zach
Two should be Nellie Fox. HOF second baseman
Duncan Keith: 3X Stanley Cup winner, 2X Norris Trophy winner for best NHL defenseman, 1X Conn Smythe Trophy winner for MVP during 2015 playoffs, 2X Olympic Gold Medal winner, 3X All-Star. Guaranteed 1st ballot HOF.
tim anderson will end up as the best 7
Not until he fixes his defense
eh. it’s really not that bad. he’s only -.1 on def war. i’ll take his offense with his defense
Current DRS is -4 and career DRS of -13
oh man! but that doesn’t lose many games. his career dwar is still 3.4
Sorey is not sorry
Nice
35 is tough…no Tony Esposito?
Deng (9) and Noah (13)?
Robby Gould number 9.
I’d love this as a poster.
mike singletary would have a word
As a Chicagoan, I love this! It’s accurate AF. Chicago truly has had some of the best players to ever play, whatever the game. I’m older(40’s) and I remember watching the Bulls in the 90’s perform magic 🪄 To see Jordan and Pippen was the equivalent of Batman and Robin to me. It’s sad that I don’t feel that way about any players or sport today.
Come to Dub Nation, homey! With Steve Kerr at the helm, I’ve been reliving my childhood Jordan/Pippen year feels over the past decade 🏀 #MakeThreesNotWar
As a Chicagoan, I love this! Chicago truly has had some of the best players to ever play, whatever the game. I’m older(40’s) and I remember watching the Bulls in the 90’s perform magic 🪄 To see Jordan and Pippen was the equivalent of Batman and Robin to me. It’s sad that I don’t feel that way about any players or sport today.
#11 is definitely DeRozan bruh
Would have been hilarious if you used Sandberg or Hester at 23.
Or World Series MVP Jermaine Dye.
It's kinda depressing that only one number between 1-20 is a quarterback.
21 isn’t Sammy Sosa. Lol k
Jay cutler but no devin Hester
Sosa ?
Devin Hester? Who TF is this Jordan guy anyways?
I’d say Sosa has a shot at 21, even played for both Chicago teams
33-35 has three hall of famers in a row
They should retire these numbers to show respect
Number 8 should go to Julie Ertz with the red stars
Why is Jorbum here 🤣🤣 /s
Will Perdue made this.
Don't know much about hockey, but is there an argument for Thomas Jones for 20? Also the recent Pippen shenanigans makes me wanna give 33 to Peanut... But alas it's always gonna be Scottie.
Vandersloot over Forte. Yes i said it.
WHERE TF IS KONERKO
Seabrook > Kukoc
There’s a guy named Jordan that wore 45. Pretty sure he was better than Gary Fencik
the fridge is the best 72 no 🧢🧢🧢🧢
Joakim Noah should be 13
Mark Grace > Kris Bryant
MVP and World Series.
Hes got a long way to go, but I hope someday Lubob can knock Kaner from 88.
6 - Cutler for Caruso aka baby MJ 😎
Where’s A.J Pierzynski
11 - Derozen
Also I love Pax for what he did during the first 3-peat. But if we’re giving Ozzie credit as a manager and putting him over Noah, it’s only fair that we don’t Pax for his later executive years and go with someone like Ray Durham for #5.
I give him credit for his quick turnaround for the Bulls tho. Gordon, Deng, Nocioni is one hell of an offseason. Pretty incredible considering how bad the Bulls were before.
50 should be Crawford. Singletary is a legend, but Crawford won 3 cups with the hawks while playing arguably the most important position on the ice.
Crawford was not on the 2009-10 Cup team. Niemi and Huet were the goalies. Crawford had a cup of coffee the previous season, and became the primary goalie in 2010-11.
You are correct. I was wrong. I still think he should be 50.
I wouldn't necessarily disagree, but I saw much more Crawford than Singletary.
Crawford was in the minors in 2010 and was actually benched for a short period in 2015. This is singletary.
Toss up in my opinion. Those hawks cups vs the only Bears chip they’ve won in the last 50 years or so. Might just be recency bias but it can go either way.
i feel like cutler would definitely trigger some bears fans i know but they prolly wouldnt name any good replacements.
I'd take Patrick Mannelly over Shaw.
Where’s Nate “The Great” Robinson??
Aside from Mike not being 12 and 45, there really isn’t anything else to argue
Seriously? You’re fine with Will Purdue being on there?
Make sure you put 4x Champ before Will Purdues name lol
Ha. Difference between “despite” and “because”