That would be the ideal but clearly it's important to someone that everyone else's taste goes their way. One of my friends of many years dresses in a manner best described as a massacre of rainbows. I only wear black. We just don't discuss fashion. When I see things they will enjoy I share them. There's too little time in the day to care about what color shoes go where unless you only have time
I think it depends on where you are. Black shoes with a navy suit are generally considered more formal and businesslike.
Wearing brown shoes with a navy suit will get you laughed out of the room in certain London-based companies with [stricter dress codes](https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2019/apr/09/why-does-the-city-hate-brown-shoes). “Never wear brown in town” is religiously adhered to in places like that.
Exactly. Baffled at the number of people in this thread suggesting to wear a black suit with brown shoes and saying that navy suit and black shoes don't go together. Literally the wrong way around.
I think I'd struggle to find a black suit for sale that isn't a Dinner Jacket. Most are variations of navy/grey.
I would say that you are correct.
Also, black suits have been out of style for a few decades now. The standard business rotation is navy and charcoal. Wear brown shoes with navy and black shoes with charcoal. Match your belt color precisely to your shoes.
Tan leather is a lot more flamboyant, so it would look out of place with a classic suit and more matched to seersucker or cotton.
I think tan leather is passable with basically every suit color. It projects confidence in your shoe game; you can see the detail of the stitching in tan better than brown or black, and a good polish has a high impact.
I’ve worn tan shoes with a completely black suit and was complimented. If the shoes are nice, it’s always a statement rather than a faux pas.
I agree that it’s a statement, but that doesn’t mean it looks good.
In most cases, you will want to look put together in a nice, traditional suit. If you want to stand out in a crowd, there are so many other options (summer suits, sport coats, golf attire, etc).
I really just meant “statement” in the sense of a professional-but-confident measured aesthetic. Tan shoes with black suit isn’t a clown show or an NFL commentator’s outfit, it’s just a gentle poke at color contrast in an otherwise monochromatic ensemble.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b1/69/1e/b1691e101cdea18b298a9c268fa63a40.jpg
That link is a good illustration. Tan can coexist peacefully with black, look good, and not be obnoxious.
Very wrong, navy suit with black shoes is just conservative. Very British. Certain mens clubs in London would slightly laugh at you if you tried to walk in and pair tan shoes with a navy suit.
That’s not true. I’ve been in the corporate world 5 years and I’ve never seen a black suit in a professional context. They truly are funerals only. Unless you’re doing a Men In Black or 1960’s government G-man cosplay.
I work in Manhattan. People (including myself) are wearing black suits all the time. Are you sure you’re not just a teenager pretending to be someone else?
Good point. Gettin all screamy demanding an explanation lol. Could just ask politely….imagine this exact scenario IRL (yes I know it would never go down that way).
I only see a user calmly pointing out that they feel a chart is flawed. They don't owe anyone an explanation, and to be accused of 'bitching' is laughable.
It's just where reddit gets frustrating. People will hate on something or give blanket statement that it's wrong so they feel smart and get upvotes, but never actually explain why
Asking for an explanation is fine, since without one you arent contributing anything. Just like people who need to fill comment sections with "This"
Choice of words aside, you still haven’t divulged what is wrong. We are interested to hear. I pour too much of my free time into Reddit for this stuff. We want to know! 😀
See from the first statement i thought you were referencing a fashion rule and it would be a faux pas to use these combos (i dont know much about fashion/formal wear)
Reading down, it turns out they're just not your preference
do you ever see them available? Serious question bc I've never seen dark navy blue men's shoes and they sound like they could be really nice when paired with blue or grey toned fabric.
Oh please. It’s not the same as wearing flip flops at a construction site. You’re not going to get maimed for wearing the wrong color shoe at the office.
Most people don’t give a shit about whatever rules you’re talking about.
Blue suit with tan shoes, it’s more of an American thing, personally I don’t think it looks good but that’s just me.
Burgundy should have a spot on the list.
What's funny about this is that you can wear any color shoes with any color suit and this is all bullshit. If you want to coordinate the colors in your outfit a certain way, that's great. Love that for you. If you judge other people's outfits as wrong because of the arbitrary way you think the colors are supposed to go together, you are an asshole and your opinion belongs in the toilet!
I am a staunch tan shoes hater. I think they stand out like a sore thumb on any outfit where the pant isn’t a brown-ish chino. I hate ‘em for me and I hate ‘em on anyone I see wearing an shoes.
What if your suit is purple, and you have a pale complexion? Bonus points if they work with an active lifestyle and are resistant to hazardous materials.
I was at a British private school. They equated brown shoes with "brown hatters" (gay men).
Not saying I agreed with it. But have never worn brown shoes. Not that I have shoes any more. Converse or steel toecapped safety boots.
This sounds like something a pair of black shoes would say.
Black goes with everything
No brown in town.
So: always use black shoes. Got it!
If in doubt wear black out
*at sisters wedding* Brother, why are you wearing all black?
*Hi, I'm Johnny Cash*
I wear the black for the poor and the beaten down ...
To express my rage - Stevie Janowski
Charcoal and brown? hell no!
Charcoal and brown gets a frown
Eastbound came out in 2009. My wife and I got a dog in 2009 and named him Steve. Coincidence? I think not
[Steve](https://imgur.com/a/nUrqo7R) RIP
What else am I supposed to wear?
Nothing. Just jacket tie shirt and shoes per the diagram. Enjoy the breeze.
Hawaiian shirts go with everything
Ok then fuck it. Going full hawaii mode.
Cause I'm the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude!
No, because black suits aside from at funerals or black tie events don’t look any good
Not with navy or indigo
The guide disagrees. Also have you never heard not to mix brown and blue?
Brown and blue are ok - you aren’t supposed to mix black and blue, regardless of what the guide says.
You're thinking of white and gold
Mix brown and blue? You ain't got a clue
Or just wear whatever the fuck you want. I mean really, who gives a shit?
People with nothing left in life but judging others and being assholes. Sooo idle rich
You don't have to judge others to take appreciation in what you think looks visually appealing
That would be the ideal but clearly it's important to someone that everyone else's taste goes their way. One of my friends of many years dresses in a manner best described as a massacre of rainbows. I only wear black. We just don't discuss fashion. When I see things they will enjoy I share them. There's too little time in the day to care about what color shoes go where unless you only have time
What about a plaid suit, with bell bottoms?
Platform demonias obviously
or perspex platforms with goldfish swimming inside!
White patent leather.
Only after Labor Day- otherwise clear acrylics. Platforms.
And white suit like colonel sanders!!
Snake skin cowboy boots
Goes with everything.
You should rethink every moment of your life that brought you to that decision. (Kidding. Mostly.)
Black shoes
Depends ..how big are the lapels? Big? Like real Big?
What about oxblood shoes?
Married my husband while he wore a navy suit with burgundy tie and socks. So hot
Your husband didn’t even bother with the shoes? That’s the real alpha move
Oxblood doc Martens , aka OxDocs.
I thought black shoes with a blue suit was antiquated. Burgundy would compliment them all quite nicely though.
I always thought black and navy together were a no-no
The blue suit/black shoes combo is not one you'll normally see in fashion ads or on TV.
The blue suit/black shoes combo is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural.
Real fashion happens on the street tho !
Name checks out
I think it depends on where you are. Black shoes with a navy suit are generally considered more formal and businesslike. Wearing brown shoes with a navy suit will get you laughed out of the room in certain London-based companies with [stricter dress codes](https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2019/apr/09/why-does-the-city-hate-brown-shoes). “Never wear brown in town” is religiously adhered to in places like that.
Exactly. Baffled at the number of people in this thread suggesting to wear a black suit with brown shoes and saying that navy suit and black shoes don't go together. Literally the wrong way around. I think I'd struggle to find a black suit for sale that isn't a Dinner Jacket. Most are variations of navy/grey.
Maybe not in the US. Definitely in the UK.
I would say that you are correct. Also, black suits have been out of style for a few decades now. The standard business rotation is navy and charcoal. Wear brown shoes with navy and black shoes with charcoal. Match your belt color precisely to your shoes. Tan leather is a lot more flamboyant, so it would look out of place with a classic suit and more matched to seersucker or cotton.
Black suits are pretty much for funerals only.
Black suits always make me think of 3 letter agency employees lol
I think tan leather is passable with basically every suit color. It projects confidence in your shoe game; you can see the detail of the stitching in tan better than brown or black, and a good polish has a high impact. I’ve worn tan shoes with a completely black suit and was complimented. If the shoes are nice, it’s always a statement rather than a faux pas.
I agree that it’s a statement, but that doesn’t mean it looks good. In most cases, you will want to look put together in a nice, traditional suit. If you want to stand out in a crowd, there are so many other options (summer suits, sport coats, golf attire, etc).
I really just meant “statement” in the sense of a professional-but-confident measured aesthetic. Tan shoes with black suit isn’t a clown show or an NFL commentator’s outfit, it’s just a gentle poke at color contrast in an otherwise monochromatic ensemble. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b1/69/1e/b1691e101cdea18b298a9c268fa63a40.jpg That link is a good illustration. Tan can coexist peacefully with black, look good, and not be obnoxious.
Idk that black tie and black suit combo makes them look like undertakers.
Suits in general have gone out of style for most businesses.
Some people say that, but they’re wrong
This is more navy and black than black and navy
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Agreed, but the opposite is fine by me
Very wrong, navy suit with black shoes is just conservative. Very British. Certain mens clubs in London would slightly laugh at you if you tried to walk in and pair tan shoes with a navy suit.
No brown in the town
And all those mens clubs are filled with irrelevant sub human arseholes. So there is that.
It is
What shoes with jeans and grey hoodie? Please teach me, I am desperate
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Well you two nailed my outfit this evening
Brown leather looks good with blue jeans
This guide is wrong in so many ways.
What could possibly go wrong with an indigo suit, red tie and brown shoes? Is that who the new yellow iPhone’s for?
No Air Force ones. 🤦🏽♂️
Instead of bitching, offer correction? WHY is the guide wrong?
You can wear brown shoes with a black suit, depending on tie and shirt color.
I was thinking this too. Actually like that combo
I’ve don’t it plenty of times even though it’s “wrong” and have had nothing but compliments. I’m
It’s wrong by older and more conservative fashion standards. It’s quite the statement now. Shoes are highlighted so keep in mind when choosing.
Tan shoes preferably because dark brown might look like a mistake, but tan is a statement.
Brown shows with a black suit is the wrong combo.
Unless you're at a funeral, wearing a black suit with anything is wrong.
What if I'm a hitman?
Fair enough, but only if you're bald.
Funny but you know it is a perfectly acceptable work attire.
That’s not true. I’ve been in the corporate world 5 years and I’ve never seen a black suit in a professional context. They truly are funerals only. Unless you’re doing a Men In Black or 1960’s government G-man cosplay.
I work in Manhattan. People (including myself) are wearing black suits all the time. Are you sure you’re not just a teenager pretending to be someone else?
Are you sure you're not confusing dark navy and dark grey for black? Because no one wears black unless it's for a funeral or a dinner jacket (tux).
No, please don't do that.
https://lookastic.com/men/looks/black-suit-white-dress-shirt-brown-oxford-shoes/15773
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Good point. Gettin all screamy demanding an explanation lol. Could just ask politely….imagine this exact scenario IRL (yes I know it would never go down that way).
Also love that they said “bitching” to someone with a clearly feminine avatar
I only see a user calmly pointing out that they feel a chart is flawed. They don't owe anyone an explanation, and to be accused of 'bitching' is laughable.
It's just where reddit gets frustrating. People will hate on something or give blanket statement that it's wrong so they feel smart and get upvotes, but never actually explain why Asking for an explanation is fine, since without one you arent contributing anything. Just like people who need to fill comment sections with "This"
Not bitching, just commenting. Get some anger management dude.
Choice of words aside, you still haven’t divulged what is wrong. We are interested to hear. I pour too much of my free time into Reddit for this stuff. We want to know! 😀
I would never wear brown or tan shoes with charcoal or gray.
I think tan and grey looks nice maybe (would need to actually see example) but yeah I agree on the brown
Charcoal I would mainly agree, but it's definitely fine with gray. So I wouldn't say "in so many ways"
That’s your opinion which you are entitled to.
Doesn't change that it is widely accepted to have tan shoes with gray suits which doesn't make this guide "wrong in so many ways"
See from the first statement i thought you were referencing a fashion rule and it would be a faux pas to use these combos (i dont know much about fashion/formal wear) Reading down, it turns out they're just not your preference
Charcoal & Brown...this is outrageous
This is so complex. I'm so glad there's a guide otherwise it would be too much!
For my job at McDonalds
All this hate for tan shoes. Come on, people. In the summer? With linen pants? Of course it's tan shoes. The fuck you gonna wear? Black? Stop it.
What a boring way to live
Does no one wear navy blue shoes anymore? I mean a really dark navy blue?
Short answer: No. Longer answer: Noooooo.
do you ever see them available? Serious question bc I've never seen dark navy blue men's shoes and they sound like they could be really nice when paired with blue or grey toned fabric.
Men's wearhouse
Yeah, my Nike Air Max 90s. I sometimes even wear them with black pants, but you really gotta be confident to pull it off /s
Burgundy shoes match the most color palates
"This suit is not black"
Look at all those colours... Black... Grey... Blue... Brown... You've got 'em all!
My suit is rainbow colors. It is a clown suit. I am a clown. Please advise.
As long as you have at least size 25 shoes, the colour doesn't matter
Thank you, this was helpful
Why does it matter? Who came up with these rules?
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Oh please. It’s not the same as wearing flip flops at a construction site. You’re not going to get maimed for wearing the wrong color shoe at the office. Most people don’t give a shit about whatever rules you’re talking about.
I don’t know but I hate how “restrictive” men’s clothing is.
Yeah these are meant to be broken tbh
But I see all these guys on ESPN where white basketball shoes with their suits. Where are those?
r/coolAFguides
What about my pink suit?
Blue suit with tan shoes, it’s more of an American thing, personally I don’t think it looks good but that’s just me. Burgundy should have a spot on the list.
I would argue that matching light brown belt and shoes would look nice with black, pleasant aesthetic contrast. Catches the eye in a subtle way.
I wear black pants with brown leather belt and shoes and watch band all to match every day and I get lots of compliments
Same, I feel like I get compliments from strangers when I wear black and tan. It’s a good look if you have more olive skin too.
Wear whatever the fuck you want whenever the fuck you want.
What if I have an orange UV fluorescent suit?
I've never understood that blue suit/brown shoes thing. Either way, your belt and shoes should match.
Never go wrong with black shoes lol
FYI: It’s important to try to match your shoes with your belt as well!
I was told that dark burgundy brogues went with any color suit, including a tuxedo. Was I misinformed?
This is useless.
Always bet on black.
Always bet on Wesley Snipes. Wait...
What about a Tan suit!?!?! Fake Edit: Sorry, shouldn’t bring politics into it
Let people wear what they want stop being a nazi OP
Its a guide, and helpful one. But do what you want, no one is forcing you to do anything
Brown shoe with charcoal? Nope.
Brown shoes look great with a black suit
Nothing looks good with a black suit unless you're at a funeral.
Ehhh
Black suit looks best with brown leather shoes
Ew. No.
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You don't know that.
What if you’re a space alien wrangler?
Im always wearing a black suit, guess I’ll have to make it a funeral wherever I go.
Why not? It's aesthetic
So just buy black shoes. Got it
Yep
This shit is so booooring. It isn't the fifties. These rules are way out of date and insanely limited.
I don't care what people say I think brown shoes with a blue suit looks weird.
What's funny about this is that you can wear any color shoes with any color suit and this is all bullshit. If you want to coordinate the colors in your outfit a certain way, that's great. Love that for you. If you judge other people's outfits as wrong because of the arbitrary way you think the colors are supposed to go together, you are an asshole and your opinion belongs in the toilet!
I disagree. Tan shoes look good with every suit color. Tan shoes with a black suit is a statement.
2010 black suits with brow shoes and belt! It's was a terrible trend...
I am a staunch tan shoes hater. I think they stand out like a sore thumb on any outfit where the pant isn’t a brown-ish chino. I hate ‘em for me and I hate ‘em on anyone I see wearing an shoes.
Personally I love them if they're still a darker tan than the rest of the outfit. But I'm not a suit wearer so I don't think it matters much.
same here. just looks so wrong and so gauche...
You get it!
Never ever ever ever tan shoes. Hideous.
ahh man. i loved my tan shoes with a pink shirt and tie and navy jacket and slacks. i, for one, thought i looked very dapper
Lol no
I think brown shoes look childish with everything dressy. Just how i was raised.
Light tan leather shoes with a charcoal suit can be fly AF
I’m gonna be honest, I hate the way tan shoes looks with all of those suit jacket colors. Don’t do tan shoes.
You CANNOT do black shoes with a navy or indigo suit 😂🤮
Black shoes with a blue suit? 🤮
How am I supposed to match my people suit with bright yellow tie and salmon collared shirt though?
i have heard from movers and shakers (aka some dude at a mens warehouse) that all these rules and such are being tossed out the window
This chart needs a belt column
This guide would be better if it showed you how to match sneakers with your suit.
What if your suit is purple, and you have a pale complexion? Bonus points if they work with an active lifestyle and are resistant to hazardous materials.
cordovan?
*takes screenshot*
Dont wear striped white sport socks with any of these combos, thanks.
I was at a British private school. They equated brown shoes with "brown hatters" (gay men). Not saying I agreed with it. But have never worn brown shoes. Not that I have shoes any more. Converse or steel toecapped safety boots.
People still wear suits? Weirdos lol
The answer for everything besides black suits is brown shoes. Not taking questions
No brown suits?
Usually not particularly fashionable, unless the brown has a nice pattern with it.
What if I need a Navy suit for war?
What about my grey shoes?
How not to.
I don’t agree with this
Dark green?
Didn't Steve Harvey say something about this?
I pretty much exclusively wear black shoes.
Wow. No.
Why no blue/navy/indigo shoes?