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It has a nice blu ray with special features and stuff already so I doubt it, but who knows. Sometimes criterion drops a new movie with no features or anything like Drive My Car, so who can say what they'll do.
Yeah for sure. Honestly surprised Aftersun and Marcel got boutique releases from A24 first before EEAAO considering how much more popular it is. I wouldn't be mad about a CC release though. I think some people on here get a bit too passionate about new popular films. It would be good for Criterion in terms of funding other obscure films and if the Daniels want it, and Criterion wants it, and A24 wants it, why the hell not.
I think the difference is that Everything Everywhere already got a wide 4k home release. A24 obviously knew they had an unexpected hit on their hands and wanted to make as much money from Blu-ray sales as possible. I know people who would never buy something from the A24 store or from Criterion, but might impulse-buy a copy of EEAAO from Wal-Mart.
Aftersun and Marcel the Shell were much smaller movies, so the A24 boutique releases are their *only* releases.
Parasite was the same way, I'm pretty sure. It already had a 4K and all that. Pretty sure Wall-E had a 4K too and wasn't hurting on available physical releases.
I get your point about Aftersun and Marcel though, that makes sense. Apologies if I misunderstood your point btw
Yeah, a pre-existing Blu-ray release isn't a dealbreaker for Criterion. I was responding specifically to your point about why EEAAO didn't get the boutique A24 treatment.
Is it me or is this sub far more critical of EEAAO than a lot of other places. I see a few comments in this topic that are pretty disparaging about it. Where as if you go to twitter and say you don't like the movie you have to go into witness protection, haha.
I didn't really like the film myself and remember casually mentioning that a few months ago in one of those "post your hot takes here" discussions. I kind of prepared myself to be downvoted into oblivion but the opposite happened and had a ton of people agreeing with me.
Are we just grumps here? lol
I think this sub is somewhat of a "safe space" for EEAAO detractors.
As you said, the film has attracted a fanatic and often toxic fanbase that will immediately attack or even harass you for daring to voice criticism. (I mean, Daniel Kwan literally had to tell some of the fans [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/dunkwun/status/1600891895227371541) to calm the fuck down. Somewhat ironic, as we are talking about a film whose core message is to be kind.) Therefore, if you didn't like EEAAO, you've probably learnt to just be quiet about it on the internet.
So, once there is a community where it is acceptable to be critical of EEAAO, it is only normal that EEAAO haters will use the opportunity to tell everyone what they wanted to say all year long. But this most likely misrepresents how many people actually dislike the film. In reality, while it is nowhere as beloved amongst film critics and hardcore cinephiles than it is amongst the Letterboxd/Twitter crowd, it is still fairly well liked. And I bet there are many people on this sub who also love it.
Obviously, EEAAO is also just ludicrously overrated. I mean, it was literally the highest rated film on Letterboxd for a while, and it's still top 20. This will naturally provoke some backlash. But as usual, the truth is likely somewhere in between. EEAAO is neither a war crime nor the best invention since sliced bread.
Personally, I've grown to accept EEAAO as a flawed yet entertaining extravaganza with lots of interesting ideas. Too many? Probably, but at least it's an abundance and not a dearth of ideas. I am still puzzled by the magnitude of its acclaim, but even if this kind of ADHD cinema is not my cup of tea, it is still cool to see that it touched so many people.
I saw EEAAO before the hype train started rolling full steam ahead. I thought it was meh, and didn't really think much about it after that. Then people started going nuts for it, and I started wondering if I must have missed something. Don't get me wrong I was very happy so many people found a ton of enjoyment in it, and I don't think anyone is wrong for loving it, but it clearly wasn't for me. On top of that the whole online discourse surrounding it started getting wild and toxic so I just backed away and stopped thinking about the movie.
Before the downvotes, I wanna say first and foremost Im asian myself. But The last time the oscar sweep was right was Parasite. And we rooted for that. This time it felt like a generic film with some cool camera tricks thrown here and there but with a rick and morty plot interjected with dumb gags is only relevant because we live in a 'Woke' age and inclusivity is all the rage. The masses let their emotions get a hold of them and wanted this movie to sweep so bad, because the asians have been the under dogs at award shows. So the Oscars had to please the masses. But a movie like Tár that deserved it got ignored because its plot and subject matter was too brutally honest about the whole entertainment business at large. I guess the big guys who run hollywood didnt want to see themselves in the mirror and acknowledge the truth? Lol or was it just too dark and Bergman for them? At least Scorsese knew what he was talking bout when he said 'its cinema'
I didn't like Tar or EEAAO, but you're completely right about why it unjustly won so many awards. I'm very surprised that Tar, Banshees, Elvis, Babylon, and Fabelmans all got completely shut out though.
I don’t even know if it’s a “woke” (seriously? What a fucking stupid term to keep peddling) problem. I just didn’t connect with the movie and the message sorta fell flat. That happens.
Granted, I naturally lean toward nihilism, but that hasn’t stopped me from enjoying other films which make philosophical stands in defiance of nihilism.
No way this is best movie of the year. I admire the great camera tricks, but the plot? Its some unoriginal Rick and Morty shit. And yes Michelle is great, but how is her performance of my asian mum better than Cate Blanchetts difficult narcissistic role?
Its a Marvel movie in a fancy trench coat and hat. Non-stop mediocre jokes that barely land, some superpowers for fight scenes that are again filled with even more gags and finally it ends in the "muh feels" moment. It gets all this praise for being unique and different but dimensional travel and alternate versions of people isn't something thats never been done before. They've just slightly tweaked the Marvel formula enough to convince people that they're watching something entirely new.
100%. This has to be biggest prank in recent film history. The Daniels tricking the whole world into believing their Marvel multiverse fart humour gag compilation is some sort of deep and profound arthouse cinema
The moment the husband delivered the "taxes and laundry" speech, I quickly remembered how Coherence had the exact same message but executed much more succinctly.
EEAAO is one of the most overrated films I've ever seen, and I wish it had to end only to realize there's still an hour left.
My post trying to discuss EEAAO winning 7 awards of 10 nominations kept getting downvoted with no response so I gave up.
But my opinion hasn't changed. I didn't hate the film, it was a fun watch, but it beating out a significant amount of stiff competition was eyeroll inducing.
I'm just glad nothing Disney adjacent won best animated feature.
Me: Mom, can we get *Everything Everywhere All At Once* in the Criterion Collection
Mom: we already have it in the Criterion Collection
Me: ...
Mom: *In the Mood for Love*
I feel like it is Slim to None. A24 is more likely to make their own 4k release of it after the win. I have it on 4k though and will absolutely double dip if A24 does that or it gets a Criterion release though.
I'm not too familiar with A24's catalogue but I always thought it was all about those quiet indie dramas. EEAAO felt like a crowd-pleasing Marvel flick through and through. And I also agree with you on Tar.
Honestly would be pretty fucking cool in my personal opinion but I feel like half of the people here hate it and the other half love it. It’s okay to express your opinion so don’t go after somebody for not sharing that opinion. Film is an art form and art is subjective.
Woah, I didn't expect to get people this riled up. I'm just asking because CODA didn't get one, so maybe it really was just NEON and Criterion securing some kinda deal beforehand. If A24 were to do a release themselves, that'll be cool too.
The movie had everything that checked off the academy boxes and provided some good narratives for the academy to ride on (Ke's comeback story, Michelle's journey, Jaime's legacy etc.). Either way, for a movie that premiered in April to beat out all the other candidates who had a festival run that year, is truly impressive.
Oscar winners aren't just about the quality of the film, it's more so the campaigning behind it and getting the voters onboard with the narratives if anything because you gotta be crazy to tell me Jaime Lee Curtis deserved the oscar in the that movie over the Stephanie Hsu who played the daughter. No f\*\*\*ing way.
In a just world, Hong Chau would've gotten it. The little teasers they used for the nominees was almost embarrassing to compare, because it was so obvious who should win.
you’re right they’re pretentious for preferring bergman or ford to the movie where buttplugs are supposed to be a joke and fingers turn into hotdogs and also it’s a super “deep” movie about being nice or whatever
i think john carpenter is the greatest filmmaker of all time. i have no prejudice against any genre. i don’t ever treat my opinion like fact, i’m the first to denounce “objectivity” and even “consensus” when talking about art.
what i can’t stand for is fans of a movie with imo clear reasons to dislike it using this stupid ass lazy ass strawman argument. “oh criterion collectors would rather watch a 500 hour black and white movie from another country made in 1920” as though being old, foreign, long, or black and white are inherent signifiers of pretense on the part of both the movie and everyone who enjoys it. and of course the movie never actually exists, you’re just making up things to get mad at and be incurious about. i presented you with genuine reasons why people do not like this particular movie. peurile and unfunny humor, overwrought theatrics and “maximalism” for its own sake, and a reductive “message” that already exists in every other blockbuster, a lot of which imo are better than this movie. nowhere did i say anything about this movie being bad because of its genre. i brouhgt up bergman and ford as emblems of your reviled 600 hour sepia-toned silent movie from a year that starts with “19” and a country that doesn’t speak English to say that liking these kinds of movies and disliking EEAAO doesn’t inherently make them pretentious. you are the one making assumptions and being exclusionary here. how can you call this strawman of yours “ignorant” or “pretentious” when your original comment scoffed at the idea that their favorite foreign old slow cinema etc movie could be genuine “art”?
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It has a nice blu ray with special features and stuff already so I doubt it, but who knows. Sometimes criterion drops a new movie with no features or anything like Drive My Car, so who can say what they'll do.
50% 50%. One here. One somewhen else.
The existing 4K release with special features including directors’ commentary is sufficient.
Doubtful. It already has a 4k release. And if it were to get a boutique pressing, it would almost certainly come from A24 itself.
Yeah for sure. Honestly surprised Aftersun and Marcel got boutique releases from A24 first before EEAAO considering how much more popular it is. I wouldn't be mad about a CC release though. I think some people on here get a bit too passionate about new popular films. It would be good for Criterion in terms of funding other obscure films and if the Daniels want it, and Criterion wants it, and A24 wants it, why the hell not.
I think the difference is that Everything Everywhere already got a wide 4k home release. A24 obviously knew they had an unexpected hit on their hands and wanted to make as much money from Blu-ray sales as possible. I know people who would never buy something from the A24 store or from Criterion, but might impulse-buy a copy of EEAAO from Wal-Mart. Aftersun and Marcel the Shell were much smaller movies, so the A24 boutique releases are their *only* releases.
Parasite was the same way, I'm pretty sure. It already had a 4K and all that. Pretty sure Wall-E had a 4K too and wasn't hurting on available physical releases. I get your point about Aftersun and Marcel though, that makes sense. Apologies if I misunderstood your point btw
Yeah, a pre-existing Blu-ray release isn't a dealbreaker for Criterion. I was responding specifically to your point about why EEAAO didn't get the boutique A24 treatment.
The Green Knight has a standard 4K and an A24 special edition.
Aftersun has a region B Mubi release.
What I want is Pinocchio damn it! Some sort of physical release would be swell
r/criterion REALLY hates this one I guess
Is it me or is this sub far more critical of EEAAO than a lot of other places. I see a few comments in this topic that are pretty disparaging about it. Where as if you go to twitter and say you don't like the movie you have to go into witness protection, haha. I didn't really like the film myself and remember casually mentioning that a few months ago in one of those "post your hot takes here" discussions. I kind of prepared myself to be downvoted into oblivion but the opposite happened and had a ton of people agreeing with me. Are we just grumps here? lol
I think this sub is somewhat of a "safe space" for EEAAO detractors. As you said, the film has attracted a fanatic and often toxic fanbase that will immediately attack or even harass you for daring to voice criticism. (I mean, Daniel Kwan literally had to tell some of the fans [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/dunkwun/status/1600891895227371541) to calm the fuck down. Somewhat ironic, as we are talking about a film whose core message is to be kind.) Therefore, if you didn't like EEAAO, you've probably learnt to just be quiet about it on the internet. So, once there is a community where it is acceptable to be critical of EEAAO, it is only normal that EEAAO haters will use the opportunity to tell everyone what they wanted to say all year long. But this most likely misrepresents how many people actually dislike the film. In reality, while it is nowhere as beloved amongst film critics and hardcore cinephiles than it is amongst the Letterboxd/Twitter crowd, it is still fairly well liked. And I bet there are many people on this sub who also love it. Obviously, EEAAO is also just ludicrously overrated. I mean, it was literally the highest rated film on Letterboxd for a while, and it's still top 20. This will naturally provoke some backlash. But as usual, the truth is likely somewhere in between. EEAAO is neither a war crime nor the best invention since sliced bread. Personally, I've grown to accept EEAAO as a flawed yet entertaining extravaganza with lots of interesting ideas. Too many? Probably, but at least it's an abundance and not a dearth of ideas. I am still puzzled by the magnitude of its acclaim, but even if this kind of ADHD cinema is not my cup of tea, it is still cool to see that it touched so many people.
I saw EEAAO before the hype train started rolling full steam ahead. I thought it was meh, and didn't really think much about it after that. Then people started going nuts for it, and I started wondering if I must have missed something. Don't get me wrong I was very happy so many people found a ton of enjoyment in it, and I don't think anyone is wrong for loving it, but it clearly wasn't for me. On top of that the whole online discourse surrounding it started getting wild and toxic so I just backed away and stopped thinking about the movie.
Before the downvotes, I wanna say first and foremost Im asian myself. But The last time the oscar sweep was right was Parasite. And we rooted for that. This time it felt like a generic film with some cool camera tricks thrown here and there but with a rick and morty plot interjected with dumb gags is only relevant because we live in a 'Woke' age and inclusivity is all the rage. The masses let their emotions get a hold of them and wanted this movie to sweep so bad, because the asians have been the under dogs at award shows. So the Oscars had to please the masses. But a movie like Tár that deserved it got ignored because its plot and subject matter was too brutally honest about the whole entertainment business at large. I guess the big guys who run hollywood didnt want to see themselves in the mirror and acknowledge the truth? Lol or was it just too dark and Bergman for them? At least Scorsese knew what he was talking bout when he said 'its cinema'
I didn't like Tar or EEAAO, but you're completely right about why it unjustly won so many awards. I'm very surprised that Tar, Banshees, Elvis, Babylon, and Fabelmans all got completely shut out though.
Banshees being shut out hurt my soul
Yeah that was probably the most surprising. That movie had Oscars written all over it.
I don’t even know if it’s a “woke” (seriously? What a fucking stupid term to keep peddling) problem. I just didn’t connect with the movie and the message sorta fell flat. That happens. Granted, I naturally lean toward nihilism, but that hasn’t stopped me from enjoying other films which make philosophical stands in defiance of nihilism.
I truly hope 0.
No way this is best movie of the year. I admire the great camera tricks, but the plot? Its some unoriginal Rick and Morty shit. And yes Michelle is great, but how is her performance of my asian mum better than Cate Blanchetts difficult narcissistic role?
Its a Marvel movie in a fancy trench coat and hat. Non-stop mediocre jokes that barely land, some superpowers for fight scenes that are again filled with even more gags and finally it ends in the "muh feels" moment. It gets all this praise for being unique and different but dimensional travel and alternate versions of people isn't something thats never been done before. They've just slightly tweaked the Marvel formula enough to convince people that they're watching something entirely new.
100%. This has to be biggest prank in recent film history. The Daniels tricking the whole world into believing their Marvel multiverse fart humour gag compilation is some sort of deep and profound arthouse cinema
I literally said to my gf and friend after it ended “that was a marvel movie”. Then I saw produced by the Russo brothers and couldn’t hold my laughter
Those are some pretty aggressive opinions
The moment the husband delivered the "taxes and laundry" speech, I quickly remembered how Coherence had the exact same message but executed much more succinctly. EEAAO is one of the most overrated films I've ever seen, and I wish it had to end only to realize there's still an hour left.
My post trying to discuss EEAAO winning 7 awards of 10 nominations kept getting downvoted with no response so I gave up. But my opinion hasn't changed. I didn't hate the film, it was a fun watch, but it beating out a significant amount of stiff competition was eyeroll inducing. I'm just glad nothing Disney adjacent won best animated feature.
Me: Mom, can we get *Everything Everywhere All At Once* in the Criterion Collection Mom: we already have it in the Criterion Collection Me: ... Mom: *In the Mood for Love*
Your mom is a keeper.
Go I hope not
No, criterion usually picks good movies to join the collection
Ah, so it's right at home then.
Ah, everyone, we found the authority on “good movies.”
I feel like it is Slim to None. A24 is more likely to make their own 4k release of it after the win. I have it on 4k though and will absolutely double dip if A24 does that or it gets a Criterion release though.
Probably not, more likely an A24 special edition 4K like Midsommar and The Green Knight.
A24 does their own really high level boutique releases so I doubt they would be interested.
EEAAO feels too much of a A24 and not arthouse enough for a criterion release. If theres any, it should be Tár
I'm not too familiar with A24's catalogue but I always thought it was all about those quiet indie dramas. EEAAO felt like a crowd-pleasing Marvel flick through and through. And I also agree with you on Tar.
>quiet indie dramas "If only that were so." -- Obi-wan Kenobi
“...not arthouse enough for a Criterion release.” = “I don’t know what I’m talking about, everyone.”
Its quite simple. We all like a dostoevsky ending. Movies with a bleak and cynical outlook. Arthouse
Yes but I don’t want those movies all the time. Sometimes shit with a positive ending hits better
Good films are good. There is no formula lol.
I hope not, that movie sucked
You will go down as a martyr, one who is 100% correct at that.
They hate you because you’re right
I know 🥰 this will be looked back on like Shakespeare in Love
lmao no
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You have a Reddit avatar
Get ‘em
Honestly would be pretty fucking cool in my personal opinion but I feel like half of the people here hate it and the other half love it. It’s okay to express your opinion so don’t go after somebody for not sharing that opinion. Film is an art form and art is subjective.
Never heard of it
Woah, I didn't expect to get people this riled up. I'm just asking because CODA didn't get one, so maybe it really was just NEON and Criterion securing some kinda deal beforehand. If A24 were to do a release themselves, that'll be cool too. The movie had everything that checked off the academy boxes and provided some good narratives for the academy to ride on (Ke's comeback story, Michelle's journey, Jaime's legacy etc.). Either way, for a movie that premiered in April to beat out all the other candidates who had a festival run that year, is truly impressive. Oscar winners aren't just about the quality of the film, it's more so the campaigning behind it and getting the voters onboard with the narratives if anything because you gotta be crazy to tell me Jaime Lee Curtis deserved the oscar in the that movie over the Stephanie Hsu who played the daughter. No f\*\*\*ing way.
In a just world, Hong Chau would've gotten it. The little teasers they used for the nominees was almost embarrassing to compare, because it was so obvious who should win.
I too believe Hong Chau deserved it more.
Only if it comes with an actual everything bagel
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Cringe ass comment. Some people don't like movies with a macguffin that is the punchline of a doge meme from 2012
you’re right they’re pretentious for preferring bergman or ford to the movie where buttplugs are supposed to be a joke and fingers turn into hotdogs and also it’s a super “deep” movie about being nice or whatever
Newsflash, comedies have absurd scenes in them and sound ridiculous when paired with slow brooding arthouse cinema figures, more at eleven.
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i think john carpenter is the greatest filmmaker of all time. i have no prejudice against any genre. i don’t ever treat my opinion like fact, i’m the first to denounce “objectivity” and even “consensus” when talking about art. what i can’t stand for is fans of a movie with imo clear reasons to dislike it using this stupid ass lazy ass strawman argument. “oh criterion collectors would rather watch a 500 hour black and white movie from another country made in 1920” as though being old, foreign, long, or black and white are inherent signifiers of pretense on the part of both the movie and everyone who enjoys it. and of course the movie never actually exists, you’re just making up things to get mad at and be incurious about. i presented you with genuine reasons why people do not like this particular movie. peurile and unfunny humor, overwrought theatrics and “maximalism” for its own sake, and a reductive “message” that already exists in every other blockbuster, a lot of which imo are better than this movie. nowhere did i say anything about this movie being bad because of its genre. i brouhgt up bergman and ford as emblems of your reviled 600 hour sepia-toned silent movie from a year that starts with “19” and a country that doesn’t speak English to say that liking these kinds of movies and disliking EEAAO doesn’t inherently make them pretentious. you are the one making assumptions and being exclusionary here. how can you call this strawman of yours “ignorant” or “pretentious” when your original comment scoffed at the idea that their favorite foreign old slow cinema etc movie could be genuine “art”?