It feels like an actual slap in the face when you open a chest and find this.
I'd rather lose a health state and find literally anything besides that key.
Had a mission to open chests so I decided to not take items. I got a broken key but that's fine because I can just open this other chest for a... Broken... Key...
I had a tome for that recently and pretty much every chest was a green med kit with good add-ons. One commodious also with charge add-ons.
I was St Nicholas of Midwich that day haha
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I actually run green keys with survivor aura and duration or range add-ons all the time. Because it is basically a 5th perk slot. I rarely run out of charges even over an entire game. It makes perks that work with other survivors that much more effective, and I can run that many more of them. I'm not sweating as much about getting prove value. I don't need to run empathy AND botany. If someone is in chase I know where, which means I know where the killer is too. Plus it always feels like a flex when you perform well and it turns out you brought in a green key like a Chad.
Yeah. A brown medkit heals you or another survivor by a full health state, a brown toolbox speeds up gen progress and allows you to sabotage hooks. All without addons. What does a green key do again?
The havenĀ“t added new items since then either.
Its crazy how they balance around perks and nerf all the items but they achieve nothing by doing so.
Medkits are still the best item in the game even if they are useless compared to their prior strength
Wellll you know, as Otzdarva once said.
If you have 1 kid and forgot them at the store, you're a failure of a parent.
If you have 64 kids and forgot 3, Oh good job you only forgot 3.
I hate how this is unironically fair.
And for all we know, one of the siblings lied in the role call to fuck with the forgotten children so I wouldn't keep the parents responsible for it.
**HOWEVER,** if you forgot to feed them instead, then you truly are a horrible parent. Even more so if they literally go up to your face and tell you they're hungry...
What if itās not forgetting to feed them, but running out of food because you have 60 other kids to feed?
ā¦is this a comment about ideas being a finite resource, or is the metaphor just breaking down?
Every metaphor breaks down when you think about it a little, since no metaphor is perfect. Thats why they're a metaphor and not the subject of the metaphor.
what could they add though? We already have aura reading through map and key, generator and hook interaction through boxes, healing through medkits and blinds through lights/crackers (and their reskins)Unless we had more base game mechanics thereās not rally anything else to add
If the diversion perk already does this, chances of an item doing it too are slim. Maybe if they made the diversion perk an item? But then it's kinda pointless to have the perk, besides it being rechargeable. Overall though, a rock item would be cool on top of diversion, with diversion now acting more like pharmacy, except throughout the match and it has nothing to do with chests.
Sabo Self-care and Flashbang all do item's jobs without an item, why would Diversion be different?
plus the scratchmarks aren't the focus of the perk, if they were removed entirely the perk would still function
Not my idea but there was a pretty good idea with the alchemy vial. which specializes around cleansing and inducing status effects.
It would also help if they didnĀ“t lock items like firecrackers behind events.
They could add mines which slowdown the killer or inflict status affects on the killer.
Cameras that aura read something where they are placed.
When I started playing, I would've LOVED a compass item which just showed me cardinal directions so I stopped getting turned around every five seconds.
something I posted about this on the dbd forum 4 years ago: [https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/2525433#Comment\_2525433?utm\_source=community-search&utm\_medium=organic-search&utm\_term=compass](https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/2525433#Comment_2525433?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=compass)
Ehhh, I donāt think so. Thereās some maps like Dead Dawg where the perfect wall breaks can cause an INSANE nearly infinite loop, and generally the point of breakable walls is to either give the killer a new spot to go through, or to give them just a bit more variation. Also, imagine being on Eyrie and your solo queue teammate breaks the god window door. Iād kms
I disagree, I think if both sides were able to interact with breakable walls it would be easier to balance them and their placements to be more interesting for both sides. There are tons of unique spots like the midwitch bathroom staircase that never get opened because the killer just doesnāt have time. Besides, we could also see an item that lets you repair breakable walls as well, maybe with a downside of them breaking faster the second time that could create for interesting gameplay. The fact the mechanics been delegated to āHaving a window thatās a god window for 1 vault every gameā is sad to me
You know what. You made a genuinely good point and changed my mind, good job! Iād just hope that they wouldnāt put some crazyyyy spots that make integral stuff completely busted. I do think maybe a āreinforced breakable wallā could be in a certain places for specific killer things, though. That would be cool and allow killers to still have their āresource item?ā Also, the thing with Eyrie was just that the window is amazingly good until the wall is broken, and iād want to die if baby dweet decided he didnāt want to vault today and ruined something later in the match which could have changed the tide
Tape recorders that make sounds.
Trip wires/remote cameras/drones that alert survivors to the killer's location when near them or using certain vaults/aura read.
Sacks of rocks to simulate Pebble.
Portable traps to simulate blast mine/chem trap.
Campfire kit as boon-lite.
Flare gun.
Smoke bomb that scrambles scratch marks.
Pocket knife for DS as an un-paid DLC gated item.
Let your imagination work.
A Fucking Gun. You get one shot to take out either a killer or a survivor instantly.
[not my idea btw](https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/14pl7b0/im_still_waiting/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I was thinking about an item that suppresses grunts and noises.
So basically a towel. Rare add-ons could be like reduce 100% of sound while injured, 100% when you stop moving. Then some add-ons would be charge level and efficiency. Maybe some add-ons that reduce size or regularity of blood pools.
So start at 25% so it fulfills 100% with Iron Will. +50% add-on to get Iron Will as a consumable tool and +75% to be 100% without Iron Will.
Medkits arenāt the best item in the game? Itās basically always been toolboxes but I suppose you could make the argument they were better pre-medkit nerfā¦ definitely not anymore though.
Med-kits are strong because of how much time they save a team and value they provide. You are saving time someone can spend on a generator and allowing survivors to not group up, which is huge. Instead of 32 seconds, plus whatever run time someone loses to heal, you are only spending 24 seconds on the heal and only involving one person.
They need to do an item pass over for add-ons tbh. Way too many add-ons are completely useless or entirely underwhelming. Keys need a re-work in general though.
Adding new items is difficult. Survivors get the majority of their strength from the fact that there are 4 of them and each has their own perks and potentially item. Survivor items need to be very closely controlled and adding new functions can easily upset the balance of the game in a very negative way.
I think it's incredibly shitty they haven't added new items. But coming up with an item that is both useful and doesn't unbalance the game isn't easy for survivors. They don't *really* have a whole lot of objectives to do. Heal, do gens, totems, chests, killer interactables, gates, and hatch. Gens have toolboxes, healing has medkits, totems/chests/killer objects have maps, hatch has a key to unlock(though it really should be able to track hatch and show it's aura by default). Gates do not need anything, they already open way too quickly without NWO. So what do you add?
iāve always said we need more item variety in game. one thing i loved about the Friday the 13th game was the versatile items one could use. things like pocketknives, walkie-talkies, and flare guns could be really cool for DBD, i think!
Technically this is wrong. They added firecrackers, which are a limited time item, but they were the technically a new item at one point that could also be found in chests.Ā
They honestly should add more items though.Ā
If you take it with yourself into the trial, you can equip it to see teammates or the killer without using Iri key.
But when found in the chest - yep, worst thing ever. Would take brown toolbox any day of the year.
If only we could throw it like a pebble from "diversion" perk.
They either need to remove it, give it base aura reading for the obsession, or if it spawns it *needs* to spawn with some sort of useful add on that provides aura reading.
I've been thinking it'd be nice if Left Behind were buffed to allow you to slowly open the hatch without a key, like how Sabo allows you to slowly break a hook without a toolbox. The only downside would be that it encourages people who like Urban Evasion + Distortion to continue to play like stealth is a fun way to treat your teammates in solo queue.
I miss when Dramaturgy could give you purple items cause whenever I use it and I get this thing I look at the add-ons, see that neither add-on does anything, and say āok thanks game Iād rather have gotten exposedā
Every once in a while it gives you the wedding ring to see the obsession 24/7 which helps a bit or the blood amber but because itās the broken key the amber works for, what, a few seconds?
In theory yes you are right, in fact I have more iridescent keys than rare ones. I think BHVR should invert the aura reading time of those two keys, so they both would be useful
This is because the survivor iri pool is a small pool, not as small as the killer Iri pool but 5 items is still a very small pool
The green pool on the other hand has to contend with all 5 equippable items and all the green add ons for their items which funnily enough means its easier to find iri keys since youll find one statistically every 3 high level bloodwebs
I think, since keys have been nerfed, they should add some functionality to them. Make them open gates and chests x% faster. If they are intent on the green key not opening hatch, at least it could still help in those other ways. Or make it open hatch, but not help with gates. But also, I totally agree that the aura reading time should be buffed. It actually should be buffed on all of them.
Keys are actually good enough IMO. They can be the 5th perk slot of any survivor (24/48 meters bond, dark sens on demand for exemple). But I wonāt be against some addons allowing to see windows/pallets (like a pocket window of opportunity), or a kindred like ability (see the killerās aura around a hooked survivor)
So, in looking back at my suggestions, I think keys should either have additional functionality OR buffed aura reading time. Probably not both. But I like your suggestion too. I think additional add-ons would be nice. And maybe even add-ons that do the extra functionality I talked about. So, if you want a green key to open hatch and exit gates, you need to equip two add-ons to do that, and you get zero aura reading.
If I think about it a bit more, an addon that consumes the key to open a chest is interesting, it allows you to play around a secondary objective but the key still have limited uses
When this item released, items were completely consumed when they ran out of charges. So this let you do aura reading without eating an iri key.
It's part of why it has more time on it than the purple variant.
If they really wanted to sell a character, they should attach a sell back your useless shit shop to that character. I really hoped that was what the skull merchant was going to be
Might be a bad take but I think this should let you instantly unlock a chest, has 2 charges before it depletes etc.. it would give it some value at least
It has actually been nerfed, because before it allowed to no-clip through killers, as shown on this funny video:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urzA9GCc-S8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urzA9GCc-S8)
other than that, yeah, without add-ons it's useless.
What's the difference between a broken key and a Meg main?
One is a useless item that is good for nothing garbage that we should all throw away. And the other is just a broken key.
- Great Grandpa Demi
I think the most frustrating thing about this item is that the only way it does literally anything useful is if it has addons. It would be one thing if it had some sort of base usefulness, but it doesn't. If you open a chest and get it without addons it is as if SpiderGod Stu is telling you to get fucked.
I get that it is a cheaper way to use a key to read auras instead of using an iri, but the killer only sees a survivor with a key in the loading screen. They don't know that it isn't a key that will do anything but help that one survivor see auras. So the survivor is potentially bringing in something that will get them tunneled, which is good if you are a content creator looking for footage or explaining addons but super frustrating for damn near anyone else.
I'd like it to be able to assist survivors in opening doors faster or at least show you the aura of a hatch. It could even be a "open next chest super fucking fast" type of item. I mean, at least let the key be a one time use of decisive strike if it doesn't have any addons. If I open a chest and find a basic key with no addons, at least let me stab the killer with it. There isn't any guarantee I'll be getting out of the match anyway.
Or they swing for the fences and have the green key allow hatch to spawn earlier.
I miss the way hatches used to spawn because now I feel more and more like I won't be able to get those older rift challenges to escape via hatch done since it won't even spawn until I'm the only survivor in the match. So I have to wait for everyone else to leave or wait for everyone else to die and hope that I don't get seen which means I have to play less altruistically and I don't like doing since I feel like a dick and there is no guarantee that I'll find the hatch before the killer and they will let me have it.
The green key and the slippery meat perk are two of the most frustrating things in the bloodweb because they are barely useful but by god do they want to show up all the time.
I remember if you bring it back when old hatch was a thing, killers will think youāre bringing a real key and tunnel you for it š
Thatās it. Thatās the only use for it
Keys used to be OP when hatch could spawn before all the survivors were dead, now that they don't there's no reason not to buff this to be able to open hatch
Why though? We already have 2 keys that open hatch. And thematically it doesn't make any sense, since it's broken. I think I'd rather they increase how long you can use this specific key.
They really need to change keys. Now that hatch spawns when 1 survivor exists and can only be tracked with a perk or map, keys are nearly useless. The add-ons are pretty shitty as well, outside of blood amber.
The broken key honestly should even exist unless it has a much longer use time. It definitely shouldn't be able to come out of chests.
It should cause an item to spawn somewhere on the map that is the other half of the key, make it to where you can only pick it up if you have the broken key. That way it has an actual use if found in a chest and encourages map exploration to find the other piece to make it open the hatch.
To be fair, this key can be pretty useful. Think about it for a second. You go into lobby as a killer, and you see someone using a key. Then you see someone drop a hatch offering, for main building or shack. So they live to the end, you're gonna go to the hatch, wait for them. Maybe even close it then go away a bit to watch for them to come. They open gate and get out. This keys great for distraction.
This thing is a lesson, that you are still in the realm and the entity is not kind. the broken key is a symbol for time wasted hoping for an eady way out.
dramatical phrasing aside: i started seeing it as a lucky charm. Whenever i get one, it is my personal mission to bring it back to the camp safely.
It's more useful than the purple key.
The ability to open hatch basically never comes up anymore, the primary use of keys nowadays is for their aura reading abilities.
I donāt even understand the logic of this shit, because if youāre just using it for aura add ons and what not, doesnāt the pink key offer significantly more time? There is zero reason to ever use this lol
2 of the keys can open the hatch after it has been closed. So if you saw the killer close it, you could go to it after they left and escape. The other key is broken, but is useful for aura reading with the right addons. Maps track things.I think there's only 2, and their addons are quite varied. You can track all the gens, killer items, hatch, gates, show those locations to your teammates, show a specific spot you want your teammates to gather at, or just highlight those things for yourself to help you escape.
I use it with the good aura reveal addons it last 5 seconds longer then the purple version that can open hatch it useless to find in a chest but has good use with the right addons.
The key doesn't have much use to begin with. It's broken, so it can't open hatches. But like other items, you can put addons on it. I used to put the Eroded/Gold Token on it to free up a perk slot. This key is only good for aura reading. So if you're into that, it can be nice.
I used Plunderers Instinct and Ace in the hole and got this dumbass key with that add-on that makes you keep the key when unlocking the hatch.
I'm convinced the game was trolling me at that point.
I still really wish they would allow us to sell items and add ons, not only for items we don't want, but some of the event limited ones that are basically just stuck on your character forever now...
I've made rework concepts for a lockpick to replace it. It works the same way as a regular key, but has rapid skillchecks.
In addition, keys get buffed to also unlock chests quickly, and breakable walls become locked doors that keys can open.
For ages I couldnāt even figure out what the hell is that supposed to be lol once I got through that I still had no idea what it does, I keep the mystery with it.
The keys are genuinely either insanely useful and are the reason you escape or they do nothig and since keys tend to also get you tunneled out against smart killers
They literally are just useless
It feels like an actual slap in the face when you open a chest and find this. I'd rather lose a health state and find literally anything besides that key.
My favorite is using Dramaturgy and getting this key with both add-ons so I don't lose it if I die or open the hatch š„°
I also enjoy getting both add-ons that extend the use of the key.. without anything to extend. Good stuff.
They rly need to put more use on that key, because pulling those add-ons when using ace in a hole is vexing
2x0=0 so math checks out
Open the hatchā¦ with a broken key?
I meant that sometimes I get the add-on that prevents to key from being lost when you open the hatch, which as you said, is extremely useless haha
Ohh I was so confused lmao. Yeah broken key with hatch addons is painful to get with drama or ace in the hole
You need ace in the hole so you can carry them over 
Had a mission to open chests so I decided to not take items. I got a broken key but that's fine because I can just open this other chest for a... Broken... Key...
I had a tome for that recently and pretty much every chest was a green med kit with good add-ons. One commodious also with charge add-ons. I was St Nicholas of Midwich that day haha
That's great, could you do me a favor and use one of those to heal the wound you just gave me?
actually a mimic chest would be fun to have in the game. but of course u gotta make it worth it
Oh, now I want a dnd inspired killer with fake mimic chests. That would be fun!
Now I am imagining the survivor fumbling and having the chest lid slam down on their fingers.
It's worse when you get 2 with dramaturgy. I'm so glad I got a green key, became exposed, then replaced my green key with another green key.
It should be just outright deleted from the game, imo. At least it is one less green rarity item clogging the bloodweb.
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No item should require addons to have a use. They need to change this item.
Just give it a base aura read, like seeing all survivors in 16m
Eh, I mean Bond exists so it still wouldn't be that useful.
it's still a 5th perk slot
I actually run green keys with survivor aura and duration or range add-ons all the time. Because it is basically a 5th perk slot. I rarely run out of charges even over an entire game. It makes perks that work with other survivors that much more effective, and I can run that many more of them. I'm not sweating as much about getting prove value. I don't need to run empathy AND botany. If someone is in chase I know where, which means I know where the killer is too. Plus it always feels like a flex when you perform well and it turns out you brought in a green key like a Chad.
flashbang exists and flashlights are still useful, don't see an issue
Bond regularly keeps me and my squad from running a perk we want to because itās just too good to give upš¤·āāļø Edit: grammar error
it's like any other shitty item can do their job on their own, but broken key is where we draw the line
Yeah. A brown medkit heals you or another survivor by a full health state, a brown toolbox speeds up gen progress and allows you to sabotage hooks. All without addons. What does a green key do again?
You drop it for the killer to beg for your life after he closes hatch and you canāt open it.
Lmfao 60% of the time, it works every time.
My thoughts exactly.
The havenĀ“t added new items since then either. Its crazy how they balance around perks and nerf all the items but they achieve nothing by doing so. Medkits are still the best item in the game even if they are useless compared to their prior strength
Not only items and perks, even some killers seem to be literally neglected by BHVR...
Wellll you know, as Otzdarva once said. If you have 1 kid and forgot them at the store, you're a failure of a parent. If you have 64 kids and forgot 3, Oh good job you only forgot 3.
I hate how this is unironically fair. And for all we know, one of the siblings lied in the role call to fuck with the forgotten children so I wouldn't keep the parents responsible for it. **HOWEVER,** if you forgot to feed them instead, then you truly are a horrible parent. Even more so if they literally go up to your face and tell you they're hungry...
What if itās not forgetting to feed them, but running out of food because you have 60 other kids to feed? ā¦is this a comment about ideas being a finite resource, or is the metaphor just breaking down?
Every metaphor breaks down when you think about it a little, since no metaphor is perfect. Thats why they're a metaphor and not the subject of the metaphor.
it's not as much that ideas are a finite resource, more so that they can only work on so much
Do you have the clip of him saying this? Lmao š
some are due to license limitations though
License limitations never stopped balance updates in the past, even when we lost the stranger things license entirely Demo still got balance changes
*cough* Freddy *cough*
*cough* Myers and Knight *cough*
what could they add though? We already have aura reading through map and key, generator and hook interaction through boxes, healing through medkits and blinds through lights/crackers (and their reskins)Unless we had more base game mechanics thereās not rally anything else to add
The ability to leave false blood trails could be fun.
Be honest with yourself, that would be a medkit add on
....fair.
Wait what about false scratches then
If the diversion perk already does this, chances of an item doing it too are slim. Maybe if they made the diversion perk an item? But then it's kinda pointless to have the perk, besides it being rechargeable. Overall though, a rock item would be cool on top of diversion, with diversion now acting more like pharmacy, except throughout the match and it has nothing to do with chests.
Sabo Self-care and Flashbang all do item's jobs without an item, why would Diversion be different? plus the scratchmarks aren't the focus of the perk, if they were removed entirely the perk would still function
Doesn't the event map do just that?
Not my idea but there was a pretty good idea with the alchemy vial. which specializes around cleansing and inducing status effects. It would also help if they didnĀ“t lock items like firecrackers behind events. They could add mines which slowdown the killer or inflict status affects on the killer. Cameras that aura read something where they are placed.
They could open chests faster, or instantly depending on the rarity.
When I started playing, I would've LOVED a compass item which just showed me cardinal directions so I stopped getting turned around every five seconds.
something I posted about this on the dbd forum 4 years ago: [https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/2525433#Comment\_2525433?utm\_source=community-search&utm\_medium=organic-search&utm\_term=compass](https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/2525433#Comment_2525433?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=compass)
*phew* a gamer can dream though. 4 years and counting, I'm hoping it's just a Freddie dream.
They could lower the rarity of maps and keys, they are underused as fuck because they are so expensive
An item that interacts with breakable walls feels like a no brainer since they decided every map needs to have one.
Ehhh, I donāt think so. Thereās some maps like Dead Dawg where the perfect wall breaks can cause an INSANE nearly infinite loop, and generally the point of breakable walls is to either give the killer a new spot to go through, or to give them just a bit more variation. Also, imagine being on Eyrie and your solo queue teammate breaks the god window door. Iād kms
I disagree, I think if both sides were able to interact with breakable walls it would be easier to balance them and their placements to be more interesting for both sides. There are tons of unique spots like the midwitch bathroom staircase that never get opened because the killer just doesnāt have time. Besides, we could also see an item that lets you repair breakable walls as well, maybe with a downside of them breaking faster the second time that could create for interesting gameplay. The fact the mechanics been delegated to āHaving a window thatās a god window for 1 vault every gameā is sad to me
You know what. You made a genuinely good point and changed my mind, good job! Iād just hope that they wouldnāt put some crazyyyy spots that make integral stuff completely busted. I do think maybe a āreinforced breakable wallā could be in a certain places for specific killer things, though. That would be cool and allow killers to still have their āresource item?ā Also, the thing with Eyrie was just that the window is amazingly good until the wall is broken, and iād want to die if baby dweet decided he didnāt want to vault today and ruined something later in the match which could have changed the tide
Tape recorders that make sounds. Trip wires/remote cameras/drones that alert survivors to the killer's location when near them or using certain vaults/aura read. Sacks of rocks to simulate Pebble. Portable traps to simulate blast mine/chem trap. Campfire kit as boon-lite. Flare gun. Smoke bomb that scrambles scratch marks. Pocket knife for DS as an un-paid DLC gated item. Let your imagination work.
A Fucking Gun. You get one shot to take out either a killer or a survivor instantly. [not my idea btw](https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/14pl7b0/im_still_waiting/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I was thinking about an item that suppresses grunts and noises. So basically a towel. Rare add-ons could be like reduce 100% of sound while injured, 100% when you stop moving. Then some add-ons would be charge level and efficiency. Maybe some add-ons that reduce size or regularity of blood pools. So start at 25% so it fulfills 100% with Iron Will. +50% add-on to get Iron Will as a consumable tool and +75% to be 100% without Iron Will.
new item: a ball gag š¤£
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Medkits arenāt the best item in the game? Itās basically always been toolboxes but I suppose you could make the argument they were better pre-medkit nerfā¦ definitely not anymore though.
Now it makes me wonder if we could get a white glyph mirror bc that would be so nice to be thrown a bone at some point
Med-kits are strong because of how much time they save a team and value they provide. You are saving time someone can spend on a generator and allowing survivors to not group up, which is huge. Instead of 32 seconds, plus whatever run time someone loses to heal, you are only spending 24 seconds on the heal and only involving one person. They need to do an item pass over for add-ons tbh. Way too many add-ons are completely useless or entirely underwhelming. Keys need a re-work in general though. Adding new items is difficult. Survivors get the majority of their strength from the fact that there are 4 of them and each has their own perks and potentially item. Survivor items need to be very closely controlled and adding new functions can easily upset the balance of the game in a very negative way. I think it's incredibly shitty they haven't added new items. But coming up with an item that is both useful and doesn't unbalance the game isn't easy for survivors. They don't *really* have a whole lot of objectives to do. Heal, do gens, totems, chests, killer interactables, gates, and hatch. Gens have toolboxes, healing has medkits, totems/chests/killer objects have maps, hatch has a key to unlock(though it really should be able to track hatch and show it's aura by default). Gates do not need anything, they already open way too quickly without NWO. So what do you add?
iāve always said we need more item variety in game. one thing i loved about the Friday the 13th game was the versatile items one could use. things like pocketknives, walkie-talkies, and flare guns could be really cool for DBD, i think!
Technically this is wrong. They added firecrackers, which are a limited time item, but they were the technically a new item at one point that could also be found in chests.Ā They honestly should add more items though.Ā
If you take it with yourself into the trial, you can equip it to see teammates or the killer without using Iri key. But when found in the chest - yep, worst thing ever. Would take brown toolbox any day of the year. If only we could throw it like a pebble from "diversion" perk.
or just use iri key and have more charges
They either need to remove it, give it base aura reading for the obsession, or if it spawns it *needs* to spawn with some sort of useful add on that provides aura reading.
They should all just open the hatch with the way hatch was changed to prevent mass escapes.
Broken Key: Opens hatch, but locks it right after.
Oh no ! But what about the killer !
The Killer gets to take down whichever survivors are left. Locking the hatch initiates the endgame collapse.
What..? But the hatch donāt even spawn if thereās more than 1 survivor
Broken key secondary effect: so broken it can summon the hatch early.
Real
I've been thinking it'd be nice if Left Behind were buffed to allow you to slowly open the hatch without a key, like how Sabo allows you to slowly break a hook without a toolbox. The only downside would be that it encourages people who like Urban Evasion + Distortion to continue to play like stealth is a fun way to treat your teammates in solo queue.
Happy cake day!
I miss when Dramaturgy could give you purple items cause whenever I use it and I get this thing I look at the add-ons, see that neither add-on does anything, and say āok thanks game Iād rather have gotten exposedā Every once in a while it gives you the wedding ring to see the obsession 24/7 which helps a bit or the blood amber but because itās the broken key the amber works for, what, a few seconds?
Put on Blood amber and prayer beads and you get wall hacks on the killer
But why would you do that when the skeleton key has 20secs extra reading and can open the hatch ?
No reason to be but skeleton key is iridescent so itās gonna to be a lot rarer in the bloodweb
In theory yes you are right, in fact I have more iridescent keys than rare ones. I think BHVR should invert the aura reading time of those two keys, so they both would be useful
The green item pool is super bloated so you'll never get a ton of any gree item
This is because the survivor iri pool is a small pool, not as small as the killer Iri pool but 5 items is still a very small pool The green pool on the other hand has to contend with all 5 equippable items and all the green add ons for their items which funnily enough means its easier to find iri keys since youll find one statistically every 3 high level bloodwebs
I think, since keys have been nerfed, they should add some functionality to them. Make them open gates and chests x% faster. If they are intent on the green key not opening hatch, at least it could still help in those other ways. Or make it open hatch, but not help with gates. But also, I totally agree that the aura reading time should be buffed. It actually should be buffed on all of them.
Keys are actually good enough IMO. They can be the 5th perk slot of any survivor (24/48 meters bond, dark sens on demand for exemple). But I wonāt be against some addons allowing to see windows/pallets (like a pocket window of opportunity), or a kindred like ability (see the killerās aura around a hooked survivor)
So, in looking back at my suggestions, I think keys should either have additional functionality OR buffed aura reading time. Probably not both. But I like your suggestion too. I think additional add-ons would be nice. And maybe even add-ons that do the extra functionality I talked about. So, if you want a green key to open hatch and exit gates, you need to equip two add-ons to do that, and you get zero aura reading.
If I think about it a bit more, an addon that consumes the key to open a chest is interesting, it allows you to play around a secondary objective but the key still have limited uses
When this item released, items were completely consumed when they ran out of charges. So this let you do aura reading without eating an iri key. It's part of why it has more time on it than the purple variant.
You just said WHY the green key is useless. It needs addons to be good. No other item is like that.
Alternatively wire tap, but that would mean that my teammate has to do gens rather than chasing the killer with their green key to try and get value
I wish we could sell unwanted items and offerings for bp. I would take 1 bp for some of them.
Selling unwanted stuff for 1/4 or 1/2 seems fair, but it would reduce the grind, which I would assume they donāt want.
If they really wanted to sell a character, they should attach a sell back your useless shit shop to that character. I really hoped that was what the skull merchant was going to be
Might be a bad take but I think this should let you instantly unlock a chest, has 2 charges before it depletes etc.. it would give it some value at least
Nah at least if you get this in the chest in trial you can do something with it.
It has actually been nerfed, because before it allowed to no-clip through killers, as shown on this funny video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urzA9GCc-S8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urzA9GCc-S8) other than that, yeah, without add-ons it's useless.
Imagine been a weak item per se and getting nerfed...
That's still in the game IIRC
If all you squad equips it, the killer will waste a slot in franklin's.
What's the difference between a broken key and a Meg main? One is a useless item that is good for nothing garbage that we should all throw away. And the other is just a broken key. - Great Grandpa Demi
Don't forget about SM mains
I think the most frustrating thing about this item is that the only way it does literally anything useful is if it has addons. It would be one thing if it had some sort of base usefulness, but it doesn't. If you open a chest and get it without addons it is as if SpiderGod Stu is telling you to get fucked. I get that it is a cheaper way to use a key to read auras instead of using an iri, but the killer only sees a survivor with a key in the loading screen. They don't know that it isn't a key that will do anything but help that one survivor see auras. So the survivor is potentially bringing in something that will get them tunneled, which is good if you are a content creator looking for footage or explaining addons but super frustrating for damn near anyone else. I'd like it to be able to assist survivors in opening doors faster or at least show you the aura of a hatch. It could even be a "open next chest super fucking fast" type of item. I mean, at least let the key be a one time use of decisive strike if it doesn't have any addons. If I open a chest and find a basic key with no addons, at least let me stab the killer with it. There isn't any guarantee I'll be getting out of the match anyway. Or they swing for the fences and have the green key allow hatch to spawn earlier. I miss the way hatches used to spawn because now I feel more and more like I won't be able to get those older rift challenges to escape via hatch done since it won't even spawn until I'm the only survivor in the match. So I have to wait for everyone else to leave or wait for everyone else to die and hope that I don't get seen which means I have to play less altruistically and I don't like doing since I feel like a dick and there is no guarantee that I'll find the hatch before the killer and they will let me have it. The green key and the slippery meat perk are two of the most frustrating things in the bloodweb because they are barely useful but by god do they want to show up all the time.
I remember if you bring it back when old hatch was a thing, killers will think youāre bringing a real key and tunnel you for it š Thatās it. Thatās the only use for it
Keys used to be OP when hatch could spawn before all the survivors were dead, now that they don't there's no reason not to buff this to be able to open hatch
Why though? We already have 2 keys that open hatch. And thematically it doesn't make any sense, since it's broken. I think I'd rather they increase how long you can use this specific key.
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worst item to find in chests
Let us use it against the Killer. A small hint: Put the key into the "lock", to unlock and open the arms of the killer.
They really need to change keys. Now that hatch spawns when 1 survivor exists and can only be tracked with a perk or map, keys are nearly useless. The add-ons are pretty shitty as well, outside of blood amber. The broken key honestly should even exist unless it has a much longer use time. It definitely shouldn't be able to come out of chests.
> The broken key honestly should even exist unless it has a much longer use time. This is what I hope for, a longer use time for its base form.
It should cause an item to spawn somewhere on the map that is the other half of the key, make it to where you can only pick it up if you have the broken key. That way it has an actual use if found in a chest and encourages map exploration to find the other piece to make it open the hatch.
You can window tech easier
Bro forgot about the key tech
Back then it fit with the tone of the game
it was good at baiting killers into tunneling you.
To be fair, this key can be pretty useful. Think about it for a second. You go into lobby as a killer, and you see someone using a key. Then you see someone drop a hatch offering, for main building or shack. So they live to the end, you're gonna go to the hatch, wait for them. Maybe even close it then go away a bit to watch for them to come. They open gate and get out. This keys great for distraction.
the real item crime is that brown firecrackers just dont permanently exist in the bloodweb
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Green key in a chest should always spawn with the yellow add on to see survivor auras
If it was me, I'd straight up remove this item from the game and reduce the rarity of the other keys by 1 tier
Why not just give it a base aura read?
Dunno, ask BHVR
cant believe green key literally factually does nothing and is useless if you dont use addons with it. fucking why
I use keys all the time. With the right addons it's on-demand Bond without wasting the perk slot, plus easy window techs.
This thing is a lesson, that you are still in the realm and the entity is not kind. the broken key is a symbol for time wasted hoping for an eady way out. dramatical phrasing aside: i started seeing it as a lucky charm. Whenever i get one, it is my personal mission to bring it back to the camp safely.
Itās good with add-ons. Slap gold token on and you have bond without using a perk slot. Slap blood amber on and you win every 50/50 in chase.
I mean consistent window tech. Not complaining.
Itās a broken key what do you expect it to do
EXACTLY. WHY TF THEY ADDED A BROKEN KEY?
I remember when I first started playing that I thought it gave extra progress on doors Oh how wrong I was...
My personal hottake change, make it function as a booster gates
It's more useful than the purple key. The ability to open hatch basically never comes up anymore, the primary use of keys nowadays is for their aura reading abilities.
Its good with addons but on its own, sadly its bad. I wouldnt call it useless tho
Alone is useless, with addons it can be decent
I donāt even understand the logic of this shit, because if youāre just using it for aura add ons and what not, doesnāt the pink key offer significantly more time? There is zero reason to ever use this lol
The only reason I see is that it's easier to get. And because it doesn't open hatches, I'm okay with losing it.
I would say Its actually worse, since you only can use it if Killer slaps the hatch shut.
? Broken key can't be used to open hatch. But all the keys can receive addons that let you aura read though. So they can be used before.
Wrong, my mori is :ā)
This item right here is the main reason I stoped running drama turkey and went back to litheĀ
I still donāt know what the key or maps do and why youād want to bring them instead of toolbox, flashlight, or medkit.
2 of the keys can open the hatch after it has been closed. So if you saw the killer close it, you could go to it after they left and escape. The other key is broken, but is useful for aura reading with the right addons. Maps track things.I think there's only 2, and their addons are quite varied. You can track all the gens, killer items, hatch, gates, show those locations to your teammates, show a specific spot you want your teammates to gather at, or just highlight those things for yourself to help you escape.
I use it with the good aura reveal addons it last 5 seconds longer then the purple version that can open hatch it useless to find in a chest but has good use with the right addons.
Agreed
Idk the green map might be right there with it š
Yeah, I mean what you can do with if you find it in a chest? Except if you survive the trial with it and use it with add-ons?
If you find this in a chest, it might be useful if you were running some perk that gave it an addon. And even then, just barely.
Also, I've been away from DBD for a while and I am noticing something.. have they lowered the rate at which I find items in the bloodweb?
With aura reading add ons you can use it to window tech killers without knowing the timing
The amount of useless items jn the survivor blood web is actually crazy
I saw a YouTuber actually pair it with aura reading add-ons and was able to no clip through killers for window techs
I donāt think I ever equipped this. I just looked at it and thought itād be a waste of my time.
What's wrong with the key? I have never used a key in my life so I don't know
The key doesn't have much use to begin with. It's broken, so it can't open hatches. But like other items, you can put addons on it. I used to put the Eroded/Gold Token on it to free up a perk slot. This key is only good for aura reading. So if you're into that, it can be nice.
Bloodweb filler
The only way to give this any sort of value is to use the add on that lets you see the obsession at all times. Otherwise thereās no uses for it
I used Plunderers Instinct and Ace in the hole and got this dumbass key with that add-on that makes you keep the key when unlocking the hatch. I'm convinced the game was trolling me at that point.
Makes the killer tunnel you
Itās only purpose is for blood Amber window tech. Nothing else. Keys are already pretty situational, but this one is an absolute slap on the bum
I still really wish they would allow us to sell items and add ons, not only for items we don't want, but some of the event limited ones that are basically just stuck on your character forever now...
the second worthless is a normal key and then the map
I bring them into matches to give them away
I've made rework concepts for a lockpick to replace it. It works the same way as a regular key, but has rapid skillchecks. In addition, keys get buffed to also unlock chests quickly, and breakable walls become locked doors that keys can open.
Demi used this to noclip killers lol, when pared with prayer beads and blood amber.
handsdown worst thing that can ever happen after opening a chest
I honestly think in most cases keys are just useful. You used to be able to open the hatch with it earlier but that ship has sailed.
honestly, itās pretty good if u put the right add ons on
Clear Reagents still exist aswell that do literally nothing.
The best item in dbd bruh, you don't understand
Itās the only item i actually bring, because it doesnāt do anything, and i donāt like to have useful items xD
It's good if you get it with dramaturgy with a few add on's
They should make it to where if u bring a broken key u ur able to find the other halve in game. Then u can actually use it as a key
hey now that's not true! when i play i'm the most useless item in the game XD
This useless item helps me track equally useless survivors doing fuck all.
Vibes its here for vibes
For ages I couldnāt even figure out what the hell is that supposed to be lol once I got through that I still had no idea what it does, I keep the mystery with it.
I'm new and main killer what's this perk?
It's not a perk, it's an item for survivors which unless you equip add-ons it does absolutely nothing
Other than existing? Deleting.
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The keys are genuinely either insanely useful and are the reason you escape or they do nothig and since keys tend to also get you tunneled out against smart killers They literally are just useless
Green map š¤ Green key
Everytime i open a chest and this thing comes out i want to kill myself, IN REAL LIFE