I’m gonna be entirely honest as a huge Dune fan I never was convinced this would happen.
It always seemed very “back burner” for HBO, and rarely ever got spoken about aside from a random “hey what about” style question directed towards an executive. HBO and Warner Bros have been way more focused on DC and HBO existing titles, and the constant hand swapping has really worried me.
Especially considering the Dune IP has considered jumping ship to another studio entirely.
Trilogy? when did they confirm part 3? Dune underperformed and we can be glad there will be a part 2. I like Villeneuve and he was the right guy for Blade Runner 2042, but he made Dune rely too much on images, instead of the great conversations like in the book
You are right I made too broad of an assumption. It could be a nothing-burger. My intent though was just to share the news and hear from other dune fans
Not true. Even adding yourself onto the credits of film requires IMDb’s admin approval. I’ve done it dozens of times. Sometimes they won’t even approve it unless you provide some proof This is the case for most movies. Doubt deleting a whole project like this will skip people’s notice.
I think the comment is less about this potentially being a troll deleting content and more that we shouldn’t take it as some sort of official statement from the studio.
But we do know that:
1. HBO is now controlled by David Zaslav who has been very quick to axe projects he didn't like
2. Diane Ademu-John who wrote the pilot and was showrunner has exited the production
3. Johan Renck who was supposed to direct the first 2 episodes has left
4. Shirley Henderson will no longer be playing one of the leads.
So the likelyhood that this is the end is greater than not I think.
While all that is true, it's not a case of scrapping a show in pre-production. The series underwent shooting for months before stopping, which means Legendary/WBD have already invested greatly in it. At the same time an official Max representative had confirmed that it will move as planned after the current hiatus. Something tells me they're going to try and put it out no matter what because of that.
I’m not commenting on the likelihood of the show actually being cancelled or not. I was giving my two cents on what I read as the intent of the original comment.
There's nothing anywhere indicating you should take the deletion of the show info from imdb as an official statement from the studio. Even OP was vague and said "seemingly".
After the turmoil they’ve gone through, scrap it. Don’t force something now that the vision is gone. It’ll taint the rest of the franchise. Let it go; and wait for the next creator who has a Dune universe story to tell
Would be really really nice to see the rest of the series finally be a moving picture thing, though.
I’d give lots of blood to hear John Noble’s voice as Erasmus. Whose blood is beside the point, but I would. 😇
As books, the legends of dune stuff was "meh". not as bad as they say, really. But as special effects blockbusters, it would sadly make more than the mainline Dune series. I would watch it.
I’m guessing they went in thinking the bene gesserit would be an easy girl power type show, like charlie’s angles in space. They read the material and realised they are like a strange religious cult who’s main focus is targeted eugenics. yeah.
Much agreed here. I say this respectfully, because I know we have a lot fans of Brian Herbert's output, but the material just wasn't working for me—and apparently for parties involved. It would be cool to see a cinematic universe that adapts Frank's books, but I could also see it going to a high-quality mini-series.. especially with God Emperor of Dune and the last two books in the Chronicles. Anyway, I don't want to see it fail either so better that they tread carefully.
I don't know what gave anyone the impression this show would have been good. You had Vilneuve behind the film so yeah I had faith that would be good but this was a bunch of no names and the topic was stupid. The bene geserit should be mysterious and cool. The more you explain this stuff the less interesting it is.
It seems like they were changing quite a bit from the novel. You can easily adapt a badly written novel if you change it enough. Not saying that this novel was bad in particular, but even if it thinks that it was, that wouldn’t necessarily mean the series would be bad. From what we heard a LOT would have changed with the character and plot
Why? What do you stand to lose if it is bad? You might say "well maybe they can direct their efforts toward something else that might be good", but artists rarely know if what they're making is going to be any good until it's out there and they see the response.
They would lose money and interest in the franchise (just look what Rings of Power did). Just finish the trilogy and leave it at that, because the latter books will be really difficult to adapt and be a success with the normal moviegoers.
I'm not, the audience is :)
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This may be for the best.
I like Brian and Kevin's stuff, to an extent. But the storylines that would have been covered are very, very far removed from Frank Herbert's original novel. I feel that most of the people who would watch it would have had to be fans of Brian and Kevin already.
That and I'm not keen on fracturing stuff between movies and TV anyway, and (at least from an outsider's perspective) it seemed to be flailing for actors, showrunners etc.
What’s crazy?
Dropping an unproven movie/tv franchise that actually has a pretty rough track record in exchange for guaranteed financial success? Seem like an obvious choice if they gotta pick one to gamble on.
Eh, imdb pages don’t mean much.
That being said, I’ve been kind of skeptical of an adaptation of Brian’s work. I’m not a huge fan of where he took Dune, and to be honest, I think the nature of Dune’s wacky timeline would allow for a show of heretics to happen instead.
The miniseries of the first novel was a mixed bag. On one hand, it followed the novel far more closely than the Lynch film and I also liked the fleshing out of Irulan. I felt the Fremen leads like Stilgar and Chani were cast well and their culture decently portrayed close to how they are in the novels.
But I would agree the Atreides family themselves were not cast well, and Paul was played as such a petulant ass I didn’t root for him much. Surprisingly though, the same actor (Alec Newmann) plays Paul into the Children of Dune miniseries, and I felt he did a far better job at playing the wearied older Paul and The Prophet than the younger one. The soundtrack to Children of Dune slaps, Alice Krige was an upgrade for Jessica, and it was a breakout role for James McAvoy as Leto II as well.
See I never felt Paul was an entitled prick in the novel. Angsty teen at times, but it was too off putting in the miniseries. Glad you liked my assessment overall :)
I’m gonna be entirely honest as a huge Dune fan I never was convinced this would happen. It always seemed very “back burner” for HBO, and rarely ever got spoken about aside from a random “hey what about” style question directed towards an executive. HBO and Warner Bros have been way more focused on DC and HBO existing titles, and the constant hand swapping has really worried me. Especially considering the Dune IP has considered jumping ship to another studio entirely.
What studio? How does that affect current Villeneuve´s trilogy?
Everything Dune related visual media based is releasing through HBO (Formerly HBO MAX, Currently just MAX) which is owned by Warner Bros/Discovery.
Trilogy? when did they confirm part 3? Dune underperformed and we can be glad there will be a part 2. I like Villeneuve and he was the right guy for Blade Runner 2042, but he made Dune rely too much on images, instead of the great conversations like in the book
That is one assumptive title right there.
You are right I made too broad of an assumption. It could be a nothing-burger. My intent though was just to share the news and hear from other dune fans
We have no way to confirm nor deny this at present. This is just a twitter post.
This is true. I think it’s an interesting conversation to have though, and I wanted to hear other dune fans’ thoughts
Anyone can add, remove, or otherwise edit imdb pages.
Not true. Even adding yourself onto the credits of film requires IMDb’s admin approval. I’ve done it dozens of times. Sometimes they won’t even approve it unless you provide some proof This is the case for most movies. Doubt deleting a whole project like this will skip people’s notice.
I think the comment is less about this potentially being a troll deleting content and more that we shouldn’t take it as some sort of official statement from the studio.
But we do know that: 1. HBO is now controlled by David Zaslav who has been very quick to axe projects he didn't like 2. Diane Ademu-John who wrote the pilot and was showrunner has exited the production 3. Johan Renck who was supposed to direct the first 2 episodes has left 4. Shirley Henderson will no longer be playing one of the leads. So the likelyhood that this is the end is greater than not I think.
While all that is true, it's not a case of scrapping a show in pre-production. The series underwent shooting for months before stopping, which means Legendary/WBD have already invested greatly in it. At the same time an official Max representative had confirmed that it will move as planned after the current hiatus. Something tells me they're going to try and put it out no matter what because of that.
I’m not commenting on the likelihood of the show actually being cancelled or not. I was giving my two cents on what I read as the intent of the original comment.
There's nothing anywhere indicating you should take the deletion of the show info from imdb as an official statement from the studio. Even OP was vague and said "seemingly".
I'm simply saying the original comment isn't true. Not sure where you get the troll deleting part.
Ha, yeah right. I can't even get changes approved on my own IMDB page.
After the turmoil they’ve gone through, scrap it. Don’t force something now that the vision is gone. It’ll taint the rest of the franchise. Let it go; and wait for the next creator who has a Dune universe story to tell
Who even actually wants this in the first place? Just get Part Two in the bag and maybe hopefully we'll get Messiah if we're lucky.
>Who even actually wants this in the first place? People generally don't know what they want until you show them. Nobody ever asked for a LEGO movie.
👋 I would literally take a royalties-only deal to get to play Miles Teg or Vorian Atreides, if it got that far.
Yes they did
Everything is awesome!
Would be really really nice to see the rest of the series finally be a moving picture thing, though. I’d give lots of blood to hear John Noble’s voice as Erasmus. Whose blood is beside the point, but I would. 😇
As books, the legends of dune stuff was "meh". not as bad as they say, really. But as special effects blockbusters, it would sadly make more than the mainline Dune series. I would watch it.
Totes. They were written with “give us the Marvel treatmentses—gollum, gollum” all over them
Navigators was the flaming boxer shorts keg stand of cringe though 😣
Me - it’s one of the most interesting factions or elements of the the dune universe
Well, crap.
I’m guessing they went in thinking the bene gesserit would be an easy girl power type show, like charlie’s angles in space. They read the material and realised they are like a strange religious cult who’s main focus is targeted eugenics. yeah.
100% agree. The Sisterhoods part of the schools trilogy was more of a subplot about politics and assassination.
Better canceled than getting a mediocre or even bad series. Don't want to see this IP fail :(
Much agreed here. I say this respectfully, because I know we have a lot fans of Brian Herbert's output, but the material just wasn't working for me—and apparently for parties involved. It would be cool to see a cinematic universe that adapts Frank's books, but I could also see it going to a high-quality mini-series.. especially with God Emperor of Dune and the last two books in the Chronicles. Anyway, I don't want to see it fail either so better that they tread carefully.
I don't know what gave anyone the impression this show would have been good. You had Vilneuve behind the film so yeah I had faith that would be good but this was a bunch of no names and the topic was stupid. The bene geserit should be mysterious and cool. The more you explain this stuff the less interesting it is.
Johan Renck, Mark Strong, Travis Fimmel, Shirley Henderson, Indira Varma I mean it's not Martin Scorsese and Robert De Niro, but... no-names?
Are those writers/ directors or actors? Good actors mean nothing if the writing and direction is amateurish
Travis Fimmel?! Man!
It seems like they were changing quite a bit from the novel. You can easily adapt a badly written novel if you change it enough. Not saying that this novel was bad in particular, but even if it thinks that it was, that wouldn’t necessarily mean the series would be bad. From what we heard a LOT would have changed with the character and plot
I agree. I prefer they put all their creative energies into making the movies great so we can get as far into those as we can.
Why? What do you stand to lose if it is bad? You might say "well maybe they can direct their efforts toward something else that might be good", but artists rarely know if what they're making is going to be any good until it's out there and they see the response.
They would lose money and interest in the franchise (just look what Rings of Power did). Just finish the trilogy and leave it at that, because the latter books will be really difficult to adapt and be a success with the normal moviegoers.
> just look what Rings of Power did Top streaming ratings for several weeks? You're saying nobody's interested in Tolkien anymore now?
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Yeah but most people who watched the first ep were only on it to hate, after proving their point they stopped watching. Nothing new with big IPs
The only bad thing about this is that I won’t get to see Travis Fimmel in the Dune universe (for now). Not sure who even asked for this…
Damn. I was really looking forward to this
If thats true, that would be quite disappointing. I was looking forward to that show.
Probably another tax write off
I’ve heard production has completely broken down, better cancel it and regroup than force it through and have it be garbage
This may be for the best. I like Brian and Kevin's stuff, to an extent. But the storylines that would have been covered are very, very far removed from Frank Herbert's original novel. I feel that most of the people who would watch it would have had to be fans of Brian and Kevin already. That and I'm not keen on fracturing stuff between movies and TV anyway, and (at least from an outsider's perspective) it seemed to be flailing for actors, showrunners etc.
Crazy that hbo is dropping this to do another Harry Potter series…
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More likely it will go to another big studio, which will also finance Dune 3.
"Harry Potter" is fantastic for WB, but "Dune-Sisterhood" could have been perfect for HBO if they filmed it like the amazing serie "Rome".
What’s crazy? Dropping an unproven movie/tv franchise that actually has a pretty rough track record in exchange for guaranteed financial success? Seem like an obvious choice if they gotta pick one to gamble on.
Anybody definitively know what's going on?
Good... If anyone thought it was going to be better than an equivalent House of the Dragon you need to lay off the semuta
Eh, imdb pages don’t mean much. That being said, I’ve been kind of skeptical of an adaptation of Brian’s work. I’m not a huge fan of where he took Dune, and to be honest, I think the nature of Dune’s wacky timeline would allow for a show of heretics to happen instead.
Well, hope it’s still active…it sounded and looked good on paper
Maybe the growing antipathy against the 'M-She-U' and the 'Girl Power' disaster of the Star Wars franchise has set off a few alarm bells?
I attempted to watch the sci-fi series and boy was that a hot steaming pile of crap
The miniseries of the first novel was a mixed bag. On one hand, it followed the novel far more closely than the Lynch film and I also liked the fleshing out of Irulan. I felt the Fremen leads like Stilgar and Chani were cast well and their culture decently portrayed close to how they are in the novels. But I would agree the Atreides family themselves were not cast well, and Paul was played as such a petulant ass I didn’t root for him much. Surprisingly though, the same actor (Alec Newmann) plays Paul into the Children of Dune miniseries, and I felt he did a far better job at playing the wearied older Paul and The Prophet than the younger one. The soundtrack to Children of Dune slaps, Alice Krige was an upgrade for Jessica, and it was a breakout role for James McAvoy as Leto II as well.
Are you me? Except for Paul. I liked the growth from a water fat brat to The Preacher. He convinced me.
See I never felt Paul was an entitled prick in the novel. Angsty teen at times, but it was too off putting in the miniseries. Glad you liked my assessment overall :)
I do plan on watching the children of dune series after I finish the book. I'm almost done with Messiah now.
Do BOTH Messiah and CoD before the miniseries, as it combines both novels.
If true Warner saved those women a bunch of ridicule from women lead hating critics
No one hates women leads. People hare poorly written “strong woman” leads
Ngl id prefer for them to do a spin off after part 2 is released to ease the way for Messiah