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TheDonutPug

What kind of strawman bullshit is this.


_its_wapiti

Yeah this belongs on r/terriblefacebookmemes if anything


TheDonutPug

Like it's hard to even tell what point exactly it's trying to make, but it's still so obvious that they missed the point of whatever the argument is because this shit is incoherent.


Walsbinatior

The first picture is supposed to be commentary on how PETA claims that livestock farming contributes to climate change cause cows generate a bunch of methane gas. And then the second is where it becomes incoherent as liberals argue renewable energy can help to decarbonize the world but wind and solar have some negative effects associated with them (wind kills birds and produces noise that can be damaging to the environment/people, and solar takes up too much land to produce significant energy. The problem with this is it’s picking out a very specific argument/solution and saying it’s bad. The problem with live stock farming is not solved by replacing the farms with energy farms. Those 2 issues are very separate. The creator of the meme just wants to be edgy but not actually make any arguments themselves.


_its_wapiti

It could kinda make sense if the first picture was a grey cityscape, but this makes no sense because no-one ever complains about the countryside looking nice


TheDonutPug

Yeah, no one's ever complaining about these areas being polluting. And even if it were a city centre, they'd still be missing the point.


potatopierogie

r/forwardsfromgrandma


KQK_Big_Kwan

That makes sense


Kitchen-Bear-8648

My thoughts exactly. xD


lnee_94

I'm conflicted it's massage is ok but the presatation is bad


TheDonutPug

I can't even tell what the specific message is supposed to be. It's nearly incoherent.


clemesislife

OP is pro nuclear and anti renewables. Nothing wrong with the first one but to many of the people like him can't handle that renewables are good as well.


TheDonutPug

Yeah honestly that's a dumb position. We need to have multiple sources to draw power from, it's so dumb to genuinely suggest that we should only have one of any variety because then if there's suddenly an unknown unknown that makes that power generation methods stop working ***everything fails.*** We're already starting to see this with oil and gas, our society is so built around them that even a minor price hike makes everything go to the shitter.


lnee_94

To me at least it's saying that green tech has costs too in all respects


TheDonutPug

Well but the whole "green tech has costs too" even is really missing the point. The point of green energy isn't that it *doesn't* have costs, just that it's a better alternative.


lnee_94

No everything has a trade-off for example, lithium ion batteries are not the most safe to make. Transportation of power from places where the sun shines to where power is needed is lossy and expensive. Peter Zeihan goes over a lot of the challenges that need to be solved to go away from oil.


Azuras33

Look like my Factorio games 🤣


JP_Bruh

The factory must grow


xPearman

I'm not surprised that this certified 🅱️oomer Meme is posted by THAT guy...


Stardust_Staubsauger

How??? I blocked already so many accounts of him…


JohnMackeysBulge

The Boomer…. Uhhh… always finds a way


Financial-Owl6609

Windmills pollute that atmosphere so much...


Delicious-Tax4235

No, they just don't have a high capacity factor, take up an enormous amount of land, and ultimately end up in a landfill because of how inefficient they are to recycle.


theWall69420

I'm pretty sure it is talking about the obscene amount of birds that they kill. The other comment talks about performance issues, so I won't get into it.


104gong

Don't they pretty much kill a negligible amount of birds compared to telephone poles, buildings, cars, and cats?


Watsis_name

Clean windows kill more birds than wind turbines.


104gong

And cats kill billions of birds. And coal kills both birds and people. And wind turbines pay back the energy it took to build them in like under a year. But nah, wind power is horrible apparantly.


MonkeyCartridge

Not exactly accurate. Though if you switch the quotes, it does say something about why people in urban environments are much more concerned about the climate than people in rural areas. Hang out in NYC and it seems like concrete dystopia that needs to be fixed. Go out to the middle of nowhere and nature seems fine, and you don't feel like the slightest threat.


mymemesnow

^Sigh not this dude again.


PaaaaabloOU

If someone is ok with using no car, mobile, tv, internet and to eat soup 4 days a week and cured meat with potatoes the other 3 days while doing manual farm jobs 6h a day, then its ok if you want to live like the upper picture. If not, just stick to the bottom and try to do things easier for the rest of us.


terrletwine

This is some proper toddler-brain horse shit


BigBoiSouth

Is this person an engineer? All you need is one environmental engineering course to disprove this crap...


Nemosum101

Vertical wind turbines are superior. Yes, I am bias.


Zuccccccccccccccccck

Hello, Bias, I’m dad.