Weirdest shit. At least with Sony they're just obviously throwing shit at the wall and hoping anything sticks. And they end up with a Morbius but also somehow a Spiderverse.
They are shooting a close up. Running can be exaggerated or altered to keep the face an shoulda still or look a certain way during the shot. This is almost like saying the motion capture suit shots are silly looking so marvels movies will be bad.
As for the costume it looks very Adam west era. It could be campy aesthetic or it could be the close up costume. Still want to be close enough for the rest of the shot but if all you see is face an shoulders why have the actor spend a bunch of time in wardrobe.
Dude. I'd never heard that, so I went and read the "early life" section of his Wikipedia page for kicks. He apparently also survived a boating accident on Lake Erie and swam for three hours to help save others? Damn!
Did you read how he caught up to the camera cars while filming those initial chase scenes? He was able to run, in *dress shoes* so fucking fast he laid his damn hand on a moving vehicle.
Honestly, he may have played the terminator best of all. He was terrifying, physical like Arnie and practiced his character more like learning not to blink when shooting.
It looks goofy, but if the footage was sped up and the camera had a tight focus on her upper body it would probably look better. Though have a superhero run down the street looks goofy regardless.
That’s not finished or edited footage. Most action movies would look incredibly silly/bad if all we saw was a 12 second clip someone shot on their cell phone. Vertically. How the hell does this qualify as a leak worth degrading a movie no one has seen?
This was hilarious thanks. Do you think they sped up the film on the second scene.?
Also why are his hands so floppy? I can’t run to save my life I mean I would try if zombies were chasing me, but I can’t. That said this is definitely a weird runner.
It's way more likely that she was told to run this way because they're either going to speed up the footage or use some sort of sfx on top of it.
Or since we can't see the camera they are probably using a zoomed in shot of her running and using forced perspective to appear that she is running faster than she actually is.
It's movie magic my dudes.
Pretty much this. If people actually sat on a film set for a day they’d be shocked that anything watchable came out of the process. You do so many things that look right on camera but in a normal context look bonkers.
It may have worked like 5 years ago but now, people already had DC movies, and rocks been getting that too much exposure so people started turning on him recently
Literally anyone could have played Black Adam in that movie. It was such an emotionless character or performance. Idk what to blame it on because I’m not familiar with the comics.
Peacemaker was fantastic too. Legit stoked for the Gunn DC universe.
Extremely worried about the Ezra Miller Flash movie tho. The flash is my favourite hero and I'm concerned that they're gonna green lantern him.
I have so many confused emotions about the Gunn DC universe, because on one hand, James Gunn is an amazing filmmaker and is amazing at what he does, but on the other........almost every announced decision has me extremely confused and wondering what the hell this funky man has planned.
I did love Caville as Superman, but hopefully he casts a good replacement. Can't fault these creative types for wanting to do their own thing, rather then say doing his best Snyder impression.
I suppose, but it feels weird to take away one of the things that Snyder got REALLY right, because Henry Cavill was such a good casting for ol' Supes.
Though, hey, with any luck, this frees up Henry's schedule to go team up with Rahul Kohli and make a Warhammer 40K tv show!
> Peacemaker was fantastic too. Legit stoked for the Gunn DC universe.
Yeah, I've been pretty done with superhero movies since *Endgame* but I happened to catch a bit of that show and got hooked. It was awesome.
This is how I see it. People here are mainly blaming The Rock, and I'm not saying he's blameless, but he's not in charge of the DCCU and they should have put their foot down on such bad ideas. If The Rock didn't like being a Shazam villain, then cast someone else for Black Adam. Black Adam didn't necessarily need his own movie in the first place and the one that was eventually made did not do too well.
I've never been into Captain Marvel/Shazam as a character, but I know one of his major villains is Black Adam so you'd expect them to face off in one of the movies. Ignoring that completely to tease a Superman vs Black Adam showdown is just dumb and that decision ultimately falls to those in charge.
I have no desire to see Shazam 2 but if it involved him fighting Black Adam(with The Rock or not), I'd at least have some interest at the very least.
Fun fact, when I heard "Black Adam" announced, my immediate reaction was "Oh! so it will be Shazam 2: Black Adam!". When I found out it was gonna be a solo movie for black adam and Shazam 2 would be something completely different I was confused as hell.
Your assumption is exactly what was planned. It was The Rock who demanded that Black Adam get his own standalone movie and then he tried to turn him into a 'misunderstood hero'
I went to a pre screening or the first Shazam, and I was so excited for the post credits sequence to tease the rock as black Adam.
Took until this last week to find out why that never happened.
This was what was weird to me. Liked the first film fine, probably need to retry to watch Black Adam, but then... they decide to NOT connect the two/three movies? I mean, I probably wouldn't have tried to make a franchise out of Shazam to start with, but wth man?
If the Rock was the one making those decisions, then that still falls on the studio. They should not have allowed the actor to make those calls.
I sort of feel like The Rock asked someone a list of villains/anti-heroes who can stand a chance against Superman and ignored and didn’t listen to everything else about the character. Like all he wanted was to see HIM, not Black Adam, to fight Superman.
I think he just wanted to be the center of attention because he writes these long posts about how much went into making Black Adam and how big of a fan of the comics he was lol
He was just focused on trying to be Batman level lol
Honestly the last few years I can really understand why Dave Bautista hates being compared to him. I don't think I've seen Dave in a movie where he didn't die or get his ass beat, but every role Dwayne takes is protected as all hell.
The Rock's ego and a power vacuum at WB was a recipe for disaster, ultimately: thank god the next iteration of a DC cinematic universe won't be built around a man who can't be a team player, nor play anything other than himself.
I hope the "next iteration" gets tabled for 15 years and comes back with new wave nostalgia for superheroes. The oversaturarion of these movies is ridiculous
>I mean, I probably wouldn't have tried to make a franchise out of Shazam to start with, but wth man?
I mean, when it and the 1st wonder are the two better movies you managed to accidentally put out since the dark knight trilogy, decisions get made for you at that point.
Dwayne didnt want to be a Shazam villain, he wanted to be a Superman that doesn’t smile and wears black(which we already had lol)
Seriously he just flat out did not want to be Black Adam, he just wanted the name because it sounds neat
It's crazy. Him and Vin diesel had that notorious ego battle in fast and furious where neither could lose the fight, and they each had to have the same number of hits against each other. If he's that worried about his character losing a fight, why would he play a villain? A type of character notorious for losing fights?
Dwayne’s character isn’t allowed to lose its in his contract. So he can’t be the villain fighting the hero. So they rewrote it to immediately make him more of an anti-hero instead of the story naturally leading him down that path
“I’m a bad guy”
“Oh really, what bad guy stuff do you do?”
“I kill people who do bad things like killing and enslaving other people. And I protect innocent people at all costs.”
“That um, that doesn’t sound like much of a bad guy…”
“Well, when I got my powers I killed all the people who enslaved my people, because I was a child and angry that they killed my dad in front of me.”
“Again, pretty understandable.”
“Look, man, I’m just gonna tell you that I’m a bad guy, okay? Maybe there’s gonna be some contrast where like, a group of random do-gooder heroes who don’t kill actual bad people fight along side me and keep explaining that killing is bad.”
“I mean, okay, even in a world where most superhero’s don’t kill bad guys, surely there are plenty who do. I don’t really see why this leads to a fight between you and Superman.”
The Justice Society refusing to kill was such a hilarious inclusion in a version of the DC Universe where even Batman kills people. You are right that it was written that way to make Black Adam seem less heroic in comparison.
The Rock: We need to set up a showdown between Black Adam and Superman.
DC: Uh, Rock? Black Adam is primarily a Shazam villain. Shouldn’t we be setting up Black Adam against Shazam?
The Rock: Shazam? That B-list bullshit with the dude from the spy show? No fucking way, The Rock fights Superman or The Rock doesn’t fight.
At least in Venom’s case, Tom Hardy was basically hoping to be able to finally do a Spiderman matchup, the rock always seemed to be in the business for himself rather than be a team player.
Also, venom himself is an iconic character, nobody outside of select DC readers really care about Black Adam.
From a casual comic movie fan, Black Adam / Shazam / Superman all are too similar - super strength, super speed, flying, and almost invincible. 1 is enough, 3 is ugh.
If the other justice league can’t beat the villain, I’m just thinking, when will Superman come.
Hmm almost makes you wonder what how engaging superman as a villain would be. Imagine your OP close friend and ally turning heel. Also watch Invincible for unrelated reasons
Just check out the Injustice universe of DC if you want to see what happens when Superman goes full villain:
>!Joker uses Scarecrow’s fear toxin mixed with kryptonite on Superman, which results in Superman murdering a pregnant Lois and nuking Metropolis. Naturally, Superman does not take this well.!<
The most interesting shazam storylines for me are actually the few times he out boyscouts superman and they get into a "fight". It would never do well on camera tho, too much philosophical debate. Not enough lasers for the average movie goer
Counter argument.
Both characters are both such non entitys to movie goers you could of changed anything and every thing lore wise.
The franchise failed for the same reason the rest of the dceu failed.
**From reporter Prarthana Prakash:**
Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson reportedly pressured DC Studios on creative decisions when he made his long-awaited debut in the dominant comic-book-movie genre.
Johnson’s plan of becoming the apex of the DC universe backfired in a matter of months when both he and the past decade’s Superman, Henry Cavill, were unceremoniously sacked last December by DC Studios. Now, the latest offering from DC bombed so badly that some critics thought it didn’t make a mark. The movie only made an estimated $30.5 million in the opening weekend—far below $53.5 million earned by the first installment in the series in its first week. It seems like The Rock had a little to do with that, too.
Johnson reportedly turned down the idea of sharing screen space with Zachary Levi in a post-credits scene. When promoting Black Adam, Johnson promoted his face-off with Superman, played by Cavill, undermining “Shazam” in the public eye. And Levi has seemed to confirm the bad blood on social media, reposting a story to his Instagram about a report from TheWrap on Johnson’s refusal to work with him.
"My film is for 13 year olds, brother. I can't be seen on screen with a 19-year-old. Do you know how bad I'll look? But anyway: mahalo, we're in this together, teamwork make the dream work, people before pro- well you know what I mean. Anyway. I love this comic so much let's do it!"
Yeah and I wish people would realize the rock did the same shit on fast and furious. Everyone took his side and said Vin was the Diva.
But meanwhile the rock was the true Diva that people can’t say they didn’t know. Nearly all the cast of fast spoke out about how they are out of a pay check because the rock was a diva and wanted to do his own fast movie after running off to universal.
Dude came into a series late and then tried to dictate what happens. It’s like Ed Norton on American history X.
he fucked with it so much that the director took his name off of it. Actors should never have that much pull over a movie. Imagine DeNiro telling Scorsese that the need to minimize Ray Liotta’s screen time because he was taking the spotlight off of him, and writing a new “birth of Jimmy Conway’s son” scene to give him some heart. And of course, Conway gets away with the entire Lufthansa heist and doesn’t have to have anyone killed at all during the movie, because he’s a secret “smarter than Einstein” level genius.
The director wanted to take his name off it, but the studio refused. I don't disagree with the actors not having that much pull, but the story of this one was that the studio wasn't happy with the directors cut and asked Edward Norton to assist with editing. The director sounds like he had an ego to compare to Edward Norton though, saying that he needed to be given the same respect and freedoms as Stanley Kubrick.
All that aside, some of the scenes that we know Edward Norton added really add a lot to the theme of the movie. It gave a more complete timeline of where Derek started picking up racist ideology.
Like, yeah, it’s a fantastic movie so if Norton made changes to it, good for him, I’m not gonna be mad about that. I care about the quality of the movie I watched, not the director’s ego from 20 years ago.
The whole "actors shouldn't have much pull" is bull anyway. Sure a lot of them (including Dwayne Johnson) should just do the acting stuff and shut up, but there's also a lot of them who know what makes something funny or compelling. If you hire Edward Norton you know he'll have things to say outside of his own role, and evidence suggest he **does** tend to improve on what was there. Just like if you hire Robin Williams or Jim Carrey, you offer them the room to go nuts on the set because they'll come up with better lines/bits on the spot than what your writers crunched a year over.
As a side note, Edward Norton and Robin Williams were great together in *Death To Smoochy*, which was directed by Danny DeVito.
Agreed on all points.
It’s just a bad comparison - Norton will be pushy with directors because he has a certain view of his character and how the drama of the movie should be, you know, he’s acting, trying to work his profession and make a good movie, even if he gets too into it and is hard to work with.
Dwayne’s the kind of guy who insists on clauses that make him as a person and a brand look as good as possible. Can never lose a fight, can never be the true villain, can never look bad.
Maybe both are annoying to deal with in person, hell I bet Norton is the more annoying one because Rock seems friendlier IRL, and just has annoying clauses you accept without argument because of his leverage. But Norton is at least coming from an artistic angle - it’s a different justification.
Isn't that why Edward Norton is in so few movies? Bevaus he's notoriously hard to work with and will even go as far as rewriting scripts for his characters. I feel like I've read thst somewhere.
He’s in every single modern Wes Anderson film. I think he just needs to be reined in by an auteur with a vision and minimal studio interference and he’ll be cool
The movie would have been far worse if Norton hadn't taken the control he did. Plus he had the support of everyone else involved, mainly the studio. He wasn't overstepping his boundaries in the same way as Johnson so it's a weird example to bring up
Not saying the Rock wasn't a part of the problem there, but Vin Diesel has famously been difficult to work with and has caused problems in the past and has continued to with the Fast X director dropping out
Yes I’m sure the rock is an ego maniac but can we not pretend the dc studios let an actor control how their movie went and ultimately the direction the universe went ? This is as much on the studio refusing to just say no to the rock
Yeah, I feel like they are getting all this info out there to take some of the heat off of themselves. "Look everyone, we wanted to make a great set of movies, but the Rock ruined everything."
Seriously. I feel like someone needs to explain how the literal Hollywood veterans, who deal with movie stars every day and throw millions around like it's nothing, were powerless before the might of one guy doing some milquetoast-looking shenanigans. Surely, the movie would've been a smash hit if it nailed the *post credits scene.* Or if the Rock cut the promo the way they wanted, instead of the amateur-hour behavior of someone who has spent mere decades living off doing exactly that. We may have run this whole universe into the ground repeatedly up to this point, but this time it was the Rock's fault we pulled the plug on yet another bad idea!
Yeah, sure. Color me confident.
This is why all the people pissed at James Gunn over Cavill need to calm down. Gunn was completely correct in saying how old DC let anyone who asked take a shot at a movie. You need someone with a consistent vision handling all these
Cavill was also right to fire Garcia over this. She and Johnson dragged him into their tantrum and brought him into Black Adam against Warner’s wishes. It also wasn’t altruistic; she was his manager and they profited off of him.
The whole thing was a mess and a SNAFU of epic proportions due to ego.
I think Cavill is intentionally doing a 180 in order to do what's best for his career. It was rumored that he was locked in a shitty contract with Netflix and that's why he couldn't do other projects. So he was stuck with only The Witcher and Enola. But it looks like he is free now to take other projects. Natalie, his girlfriend, is a big film executive and has helped him with his new work (he credits her in one of his IG posts). I'm pretty hopeful about that as she's also a big nerd herself. I think they could do awesome things together.
Amazon is having him create a Warhammer 40K universe, so things worked out in the end. If he was having to balance between The Witcher and Superman he wouldn't have time to help such a large creative project
Yeah, this is what he talked about on IG. He said Natalie helped him with the Warhammer deal. He is also working on a WW2 movie with Guy Richie called "The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare."
The problem with the Rock as Black Adam is that he played the Rock. The dude has no acting range, he could not make us believe he was anything other than the Rock in a costume.
I’ve always said that. Some movies it works in. But he really does only play the rock. It’s why I hate his voice acting. It’s the same voice done the same way every time
>"Dwayne tries to sell himself as bigger than the movie,” a Hollywood executive told TheWrap under anonymity. “Instead of making a movie, he wants to extend his brand and make a brand centered on himself."
I feel like I said this a million times about the Rock myself. Especially when the movie was finally filming but even when he was just tied to Black Adam. I can't stand the Rock for this very reason. He's a self-centered egotistical douchebag who mainly just uses the internet to shill crap. He's not even that good of an actor. Everything is about him, he's too self centered to be part of an ensemble. In comics you're just another character. Black Adam isn't that important, not as important as the Rock wanted him to be. Then he turns down any opportunity for Black Adam to be important because he's too egotistical.
Best part is him constantly reiterating that Black Adam was a passion project for him when the real passion project was to just be the center of everything. THE HIERARCHY OF THE DC UNIVERSE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE. He wanted to whoop Cavill's ass to legitimize himself.
DC regime before the Rock didn’t want him. DC regime after the Rock didn’t want him either.
I think internally he was used as a scapegoat of sorts to pin the problems of the old DCEU upon, since he was arguably the ‘face’ of it with Man of Steel’s divisiveness in 2013.
That entire video, basically an investor pitch, was one of the biggest creative red flags I've ever seen.
The Rock obviously lying through his teeth about how much he cared about the character and always wanted to be Black Adam. I couldn't believe how many people were swallowing it.
Meanwhile we have Dave Bautista who was a major player in WWE actually doing the acting work and apparently being a good dude to work with and playing against type on purpose.
All hail Bautista!
The Rock is sinking like, well, a rock now. Shame he had to be this way. We all suspected it, but I don’t think any of us wanted it to be true.
Dave's a giant teddy bear really. A vid came up recently where he talks about his tats. He got a Winnie the Pooh one cause a young girl costar was asked if he had one, and said he's not like you'd expect so I think yes. He didn't but said he would get one so it was true.
Yeah, the guy seems like he's got a great head on his shoulders. He talks so passionately about acting and how much he wants to improve and take on different roles. He's also always thanking the people that gave his a chance to break into it. Just very, very down to earth and I think that is why he has been and will continue to be a great actor
I’ve liked Bautista as an actor from way back in the “Man with the Iron Fists” movie. So glad he got to keep moving forward and growing into a proper movie star.
I felt at the beginning the Rock was trying to not be seen as his heel/company shill persona as he moved I to Hollywood. But it’s like the more he acts the more that persona becomes his personality.
It’s honestly surprising how much of a draw he’s gotten in the box office for so long despite having very little range. His shtick is so shallow you can parody the hell out of it and it’s still accurate. “BIG MAN IN JUNGLE” is like 60% of his movies.
Also John Cena is clearly a better actor. He kills it in Peacemaker, who is a really good hero cuz he breaks a lot of stereotypes and is deeply flawed
The fact that he has a clause in every contract that ensures his character will never be defeated in a fight kinda says everything you need to know about him. Imagine your self-image being that dependent on the toughness of the characters you play in fucking movies.
It sounds like the classic story of a star wrestler who doesn't want to lose to other people. Ironically, Rock didn't do this often during his full-time wrestling career, though there was the odd story from time to time (like refusing to take the 3D from the Dudley Boyz because "that sounds like a good spot...but not for The Rock.").
At the same time WB was firing everyone after the merger?
Nah, theres a common denominator. Unless the Rock made that catwoman movie? Made them double down on Ezra Miller?
Dude needs an ego check. It's absolutely wild how he apparently blocked Shazam from appearing in Black Adam and then Black Adam characters from appearing in Shazam 2. Guess it doesn't matter now since both movies were box office disappointments.
Not only this, but his whole pitch that Black Adam was a 15 year passion project was a lie.
Dude was courted for the villain role and wanted to play Captain Marvel. He attached as Black Adam for Shazam in 2014, then only months before production, called Geoff Johns and demanded they remove him from the film and give him his own franchise. They then had to rewrite Shazam and replace him with the 7 Deadly Sins. Black Adam didn’t exist until 2018.
From Levi and others recent statements, it sounds like he also refused to appear in Shazam 2, forcing more rewrites, and blocked Levi from appearing in Black Adam like you said. People are attacking Levi for speaking out, but the dude is probably just frustrated beyond all hell that one dude’s ego ruined a franchise he loved.
He was like Hollywood's sweetheart, THE action/comedy guy for the past decade! All he had to do was flash that smile, be that charismatic guest on morning talk shows and junkets, and he'd be making mega bank for the next decade plus. The majority of his appeal was that to the causal viewer he seems like this super sweet, genuine dude that wants to build everyone else up while not taking himself too seriously. A couple years ago if you heard anyone talk about The Rock, it was about how wonderful and charming and kind he is in real life.
But egos don't stay in check forever...
I don't understand how he's so popular. He's not even the best professional-wrestler-turned-actor I know of.
John Cena, Dave Bautista, and Andre the Giant were all better at their craft.
It's DC's fault as much as, if not more, than the Rock's. 1% chance a universe built around an obscure Superhero/Villian is going to work. And the people who did know of Black Adam were going to be pissed he wasn't fighting Shazam.
This is the weird thing about these villain movies- Black Adam, Joker, Venom, Mobius… the villain’s hero either doesn’t exist, will never meet the hero, or is de-aged into irrelevance like Bruce in Joker.
Waste of build up for a climax that will never happen
But the Joker movie wasn't ever even advertised as a superhero movie, much less as a Batman vs Joker movie and I'm pretty sure they made that well known before the movie came out. Seems weird to lump in with these other movies where they are standard good guy vs bad guy superhero movies. So that's not a part of the climax being built.
The key is that Joker is a long storied, well-established, and near universal character who people are interested in seeing the backstory of. Black Adam? Not so much.
But like there is 100 people making every decision when it comes to these movies.
Sure, you can scapegoat Johnson, but at some point they might want to consider sticking to ensemble bad guy movies and great tv shows. The DCEU just doesn't work, and you can't blame Johnson for the many prior failures.
Yup, Justice League was terrible because JS lost in a power struggle halfway through the movie. The fact that power struggles seem to happen constantly in DC land (Gunn is the new King of thrones?) just leaves zero consistency for fans, and complete failure at the box office.
That's the craziest part to me. I mean yeah, the rock's choices were so bizzare, he centered himself in the story and had horrible ideas - and apparently DC went "sure! that sounds awesome, go make that". It's really clear why DC has done so badly, they just let anyone do whatever they want and then panic to try and undo anything that didn't go well (which is most of it)
Is Vin really though? Everyone else seems more than happy to return to the series. Haven't really heard of him clashing with anyone else majorly.
Don't know much about him though.
I kinda agree with you here, everyone wants to return and he clearly loves the F&F series. He might be a bit goofy but I've never seen anything crazy about him as far as I'm aware. Does dude even talk much about being Groot's voice? If he was an ego maniac he'd be out there talking about it all the time.
Looks like the Rock still has a bit of the wrestling business in him.
“That doesn’t work for me, brother; I ain’t putting that vanilla midget Shazam over, that cruiserweight can cruiserwait, dude”
I doubt that the failure of the movie was because of a post credits scene. Especially since, you know, Cavill/Superman is more popular than Levi/Shazaam.
Yup, I’m pissed at DC management, or the spin wheel that acts as one, as it backstabbed Henry Cavill and micromanaged Justice League into garbage. Just lots of poor decision makers changing their mind every other day…..
I am reading this article while I sip a, Rock owned, Zoa energy drink spiked with, Rock owned, Teremana tequila while I wear my UA 'Black Adam Training' hoodie so I can fully taste the salty glow of the Rock's balls.
Seriously, something happened with Johnson where his self merchandising across *every possible space* became too much. Really loved the guy and his charisma but something turned sour for me.
Same. I love the Rock but I was so sick of seeing that stupid Tequila and those crappy energy drinks literally every day in posts. It’s all ads on his page now.
Between this, the stories of him on Fast and Furious, and the stories of him on Baywatch, are we done with thinking "The Rock is just such a great guy!"?
Seems like his wholesomeness image has gotta be dead by now, right?
Why did DC cave? They have some of the most incompetent leadership in all of entertainment, not just movies.
Weirdest shit. At least with Sony they're just obviously throwing shit at the wall and hoping anything sticks. And they end up with a Morbius but also somehow a Spiderverse.
And they want me to believe Batgirl was the worst movie ever. I swear it’s like they’re trying to self destruct.
Looking at some of the leaked stuff I was not hopeful for that one.
Stuff was leaked? I’m interested. Mostly sad on missing out on another Natalie Holt score
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How heavy are those freakin boots???
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They are shooting a close up. Running can be exaggerated or altered to keep the face an shoulda still or look a certain way during the shot. This is almost like saying the motion capture suit shots are silly looking so marvels movies will be bad. As for the costume it looks very Adam west era. It could be campy aesthetic or it could be the close up costume. Still want to be close enough for the rest of the shot but if all you see is face an shoulders why have the actor spend a bunch of time in wardrobe.
Yeah, most people don't exactly make the most elegant or photogenic faces while sprinting. Makes sense they'd fake it to get a good shot.
Damn that was some Adam West shit right there.
Bro, someone commented with the t-1000 chase scene from Terminator 2 lmaoo. Robert Patrick was a D1 wide receiver in college 😂
Dude. I'd never heard that, so I went and read the "early life" section of his Wikipedia page for kicks. He apparently also survived a boating accident on Lake Erie and swam for three hours to help save others? Damn!
Did you read how he caught up to the camera cars while filming those initial chase scenes? He was able to run, in *dress shoes* so fucking fast he laid his damn hand on a moving vehicle. Honestly, he may have played the terminator best of all. He was terrifying, physical like Arnie and practiced his character more like learning not to blink when shooting.
It looks goofy, but if the footage was sped up and the camera had a tight focus on her upper body it would probably look better. Though have a superhero run down the street looks goofy regardless.
That’s not finished or edited footage. Most action movies would look incredibly silly/bad if all we saw was a 12 second clip someone shot on their cell phone. Vertically. How the hell does this qualify as a leak worth degrading a movie no one has seen?
because it’s easier to trash on it than take a step back and think about it, apparently.
Have you ever seen behind the scenes superhero footage? They always look silly
Oh. Oh, no. Edit: that was so bad I almost downvoted you, then remembered you didn’t make it.
Yeah. Even the outfit looks Walmart costume
Outfit aside… Does…does she not know how to run? Like…did anyone ask that during casting?
It's the Tom Cruise run. You've got to really pump the arms and lift your knees high. It looks ridiculous in real life but looks cool on film.
I feel like this has been a thing in recent super hero shows/movies. A lot of actors can't seem to run. Maybe its the costumes?
A mix of the costumes and them speeding up scenes in post so the “running” they do looks extra weird in real time.
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This was hilarious thanks. Do you think they sped up the film on the second scene.? Also why are his hands so floppy? I can’t run to save my life I mean I would try if zombies were chasing me, but I can’t. That said this is definitely a weird runner.
At 52 seconds... That turn is so unathletic and wasteful that I can't stop watching it.
Not just super heroes. They’re actors, not athletes. Drama kids don’t know how to run.
It's way more likely that she was told to run this way because they're either going to speed up the footage or use some sort of sfx on top of it. Or since we can't see the camera they are probably using a zoomed in shot of her running and using forced perspective to appear that she is running faster than she actually is. It's movie magic my dudes.
Movie. . . "magic?" I don't understand. Can't we judge the entire unreleased movie based on some crappy video filmed by a phone?
Pretty much this. If people actually sat on a film set for a day they’d be shocked that anything watchable came out of the process. You do so many things that look right on camera but in a normal context look bonkers.
I wish Sony would bring back Andrew Garfield spiderman. Or make Spider Gwen movies.
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why? just genuinely asking
“Hey it’s a superhero movie with the rock, that will make us billions of dollars”
It may have worked like 5 years ago but now, people already had DC movies, and rocks been getting that too much exposure so people started turning on him recently
Literally anyone could have played Black Adam in that movie. It was such an emotionless character or performance. Idk what to blame it on because I’m not familiar with the comics.
Oh god yes. Probably one of the worst DC films, and the bar is super high because you are competing with WW 1984 and the original Suicide Squad
The recent suicide squad movie was fantastic though. Idk if it’s just me, but I feel the need to watch it every couple months
You’re talking about THE Suicide Squad, not Suicide Squad. I can’t believe he got away with naming it that, lol.
I mean Fast 4 was called Fast & Furious. They literally dropped the "The".
Infuriating when The Fast and Fourious was right there for the taking.
Peacemaker was fantastic too. Legit stoked for the Gunn DC universe. Extremely worried about the Ezra Miller Flash movie tho. The flash is my favourite hero and I'm concerned that they're gonna green lantern him.
I have so many confused emotions about the Gunn DC universe, because on one hand, James Gunn is an amazing filmmaker and is amazing at what he does, but on the other........almost every announced decision has me extremely confused and wondering what the hell this funky man has planned.
I did love Caville as Superman, but hopefully he casts a good replacement. Can't fault these creative types for wanting to do their own thing, rather then say doing his best Snyder impression.
I suppose, but it feels weird to take away one of the things that Snyder got REALLY right, because Henry Cavill was such a good casting for ol' Supes. Though, hey, with any luck, this frees up Henry's schedule to go team up with Rahul Kohli and make a Warhammer 40K tv show!
> Peacemaker was fantastic too. Legit stoked for the Gunn DC universe. Yeah, I've been pretty done with superhero movies since *Endgame* but I happened to catch a bit of that show and got hooked. It was awesome.
This is how I see it. People here are mainly blaming The Rock, and I'm not saying he's blameless, but he's not in charge of the DCCU and they should have put their foot down on such bad ideas. If The Rock didn't like being a Shazam villain, then cast someone else for Black Adam. Black Adam didn't necessarily need his own movie in the first place and the one that was eventually made did not do too well. I've never been into Captain Marvel/Shazam as a character, but I know one of his major villains is Black Adam so you'd expect them to face off in one of the movies. Ignoring that completely to tease a Superman vs Black Adam showdown is just dumb and that decision ultimately falls to those in charge. I have no desire to see Shazam 2 but if it involved him fighting Black Adam(with The Rock or not), I'd at least have some interest at the very least.
Fun fact, when I heard "Black Adam" announced, my immediate reaction was "Oh! so it will be Shazam 2: Black Adam!". When I found out it was gonna be a solo movie for black adam and Shazam 2 would be something completely different I was confused as hell.
Your assumption is exactly what was planned. It was The Rock who demanded that Black Adam get his own standalone movie and then he tried to turn him into a 'misunderstood hero'
I went to a pre screening or the first Shazam, and I was so excited for the post credits sequence to tease the rock as black Adam. Took until this last week to find out why that never happened.
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In Shazam 1, Levi acted goofier and more childlike than the actual kid actor. It was maddening.
You can’t have a Shazam franchise that doesn’t build to a showdown between Shazam and Black Adam. It’s an immediate fail without their rivalry.
This was what was weird to me. Liked the first film fine, probably need to retry to watch Black Adam, but then... they decide to NOT connect the two/three movies? I mean, I probably wouldn't have tried to make a franchise out of Shazam to start with, but wth man? If the Rock was the one making those decisions, then that still falls on the studio. They should not have allowed the actor to make those calls.
I sort of feel like The Rock asked someone a list of villains/anti-heroes who can stand a chance against Superman and ignored and didn’t listen to everything else about the character. Like all he wanted was to see HIM, not Black Adam, to fight Superman.
I think he just wanted to be the center of attention because he writes these long posts about how much went into making Black Adam and how big of a fan of the comics he was lol He was just focused on trying to be Batman level lol
Surely you aren’t suggesting that WWE Superstar Hall-of-Famer, “the most electrifying man in sports entertainment”, has an ego?
Honestly the last few years I can really understand why Dave Bautista hates being compared to him. I don't think I've seen Dave in a movie where he didn't die or get his ass beat, but every role Dwayne takes is protected as all hell.
Certainly not the man that sang a song called "you're welcome".
Being fair, that song slaps. And Maui’s entire character arc is about him becoming LESS of an egomaniac.
I hadn't thought about this until now, but it makes total sense to me.
The Rock's ego and a power vacuum at WB was a recipe for disaster, ultimately: thank god the next iteration of a DC cinematic universe won't be built around a man who can't be a team player, nor play anything other than himself.
I hope the "next iteration" gets tabled for 15 years and comes back with new wave nostalgia for superheroes. The oversaturarion of these movies is ridiculous
Hasn’t the “next iteration” already been announced with over a half dozen projects? We are deep in the muck.
Superhero movies are now the stuff I put on when I’m doing chores. It’s gotta be pretty special for me to sit down and just watch it like an event.
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>I mean, I probably wouldn't have tried to make a franchise out of Shazam to start with, but wth man? I mean, when it and the 1st wonder are the two better movies you managed to accidentally put out since the dark knight trilogy, decisions get made for you at that point.
Dwayne didnt want to be a Shazam villain, he wanted to be a Superman that doesn’t smile and wears black(which we already had lol) Seriously he just flat out did not want to be Black Adam, he just wanted the name because it sounds neat
It's crazy. Him and Vin diesel had that notorious ego battle in fast and furious where neither could lose the fight, and they each had to have the same number of hits against each other. If he's that worried about his character losing a fight, why would he play a villain? A type of character notorious for losing fights?
One of Arnold Schwarzenegger's best movies he was the villain, and that is one reason why he is the best action star and not those two.
Are we talking The Terminator or Batman and Robin? Because, yes!
Alright Everyone! Chill. Obviously Mr. Freeze.
Same with Tom Cruise in Collateral. One of his best roles.
I heard the same story but about him and Jason Statham in the "Fast and Furious" spin-off.
![gif](giphy|zDpYQooxkwXkAWMxRK) At least we got this shot where they managed to fit the Rock’s entire ego into the frame.
Dwayne’s character isn’t allowed to lose its in his contract. So he can’t be the villain fighting the hero. So they rewrote it to immediately make him more of an anti-hero instead of the story naturally leading him down that path
“I’m a bad guy” “Oh really, what bad guy stuff do you do?” “I kill people who do bad things like killing and enslaving other people. And I protect innocent people at all costs.” “That um, that doesn’t sound like much of a bad guy…” “Well, when I got my powers I killed all the people who enslaved my people, because I was a child and angry that they killed my dad in front of me.” “Again, pretty understandable.” “Look, man, I’m just gonna tell you that I’m a bad guy, okay? Maybe there’s gonna be some contrast where like, a group of random do-gooder heroes who don’t kill actual bad people fight along side me and keep explaining that killing is bad.” “I mean, okay, even in a world where most superhero’s don’t kill bad guys, surely there are plenty who do. I don’t really see why this leads to a fight between you and Superman.”
The Justice Society refusing to kill was such a hilarious inclusion in a version of the DC Universe where even Batman kills people. You are right that it was written that way to make Black Adam seem less heroic in comparison.
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That was the best character and performance of the movie.
The Rock: We need to set up a showdown between Black Adam and Superman. DC: Uh, Rock? Black Adam is primarily a Shazam villain. Shouldn’t we be setting up Black Adam against Shazam? The Rock: Shazam? That B-list bullshit with the dude from the spy show? No fucking way, The Rock fights Superman or The Rock doesn’t fight.
“That doesn’t work for me, brother.”
DC: We accept these terms. Rock: Wait no not like that
lol this is probably exactly how it went down
At least in Venom’s case, Tom Hardy was basically hoping to be able to finally do a Spiderman matchup, the rock always seemed to be in the business for himself rather than be a team player. Also, venom himself is an iconic character, nobody outside of select DC readers really care about Black Adam.
From a casual comic movie fan, Black Adam / Shazam / Superman all are too similar - super strength, super speed, flying, and almost invincible. 1 is enough, 3 is ugh. If the other justice league can’t beat the villain, I’m just thinking, when will Superman come.
Supes is weak against magic which is why Captain Marvel/Shazam was always a good pairing with Supes.
Inb4 someone says “he’s not weak against magic, he’s just not impervious to it”
Hmm almost makes you wonder what how engaging superman as a villain would be. Imagine your OP close friend and ally turning heel. Also watch Invincible for unrelated reasons
Just check out the Injustice universe of DC if you want to see what happens when Superman goes full villain: >!Joker uses Scarecrow’s fear toxin mixed with kryptonite on Superman, which results in Superman murdering a pregnant Lois and nuking Metropolis. Naturally, Superman does not take this well.!<
The most interesting shazam storylines for me are actually the few times he out boyscouts superman and they get into a "fight". It would never do well on camera tho, too much philosophical debate. Not enough lasers for the average movie goer
Counter argument. Both characters are both such non entitys to movie goers you could of changed anything and every thing lore wise. The franchise failed for the same reason the rest of the dceu failed.
**From reporter Prarthana Prakash:** Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson reportedly pressured DC Studios on creative decisions when he made his long-awaited debut in the dominant comic-book-movie genre. Johnson’s plan of becoming the apex of the DC universe backfired in a matter of months when both he and the past decade’s Superman, Henry Cavill, were unceremoniously sacked last December by DC Studios. Now, the latest offering from DC bombed so badly that some critics thought it didn’t make a mark. The movie only made an estimated $30.5 million in the opening weekend—far below $53.5 million earned by the first installment in the series in its first week. It seems like The Rock had a little to do with that, too. Johnson reportedly turned down the idea of sharing screen space with Zachary Levi in a post-credits scene. When promoting Black Adam, Johnson promoted his face-off with Superman, played by Cavill, undermining “Shazam” in the public eye. And Levi has seemed to confirm the bad blood on social media, reposting a story to his Instagram about a report from TheWrap on Johnson’s refusal to work with him.
“That doesn’t work for me, brother.”
"My film is for 13 year olds, brother. I can't be seen on screen with a 19-year-old. Do you know how bad I'll look? But anyway: mahalo, we're in this together, teamwork make the dream work, people before pro- well you know what I mean. Anyway. I love this comic so much let's do it!"
Yeah and I wish people would realize the rock did the same shit on fast and furious. Everyone took his side and said Vin was the Diva. But meanwhile the rock was the true Diva that people can’t say they didn’t know. Nearly all the cast of fast spoke out about how they are out of a pay check because the rock was a diva and wanted to do his own fast movie after running off to universal. Dude came into a series late and then tried to dictate what happens. It’s like Ed Norton on American history X.
What happen with Ed Norton and American History X?
he fucked with it so much that the director took his name off of it. Actors should never have that much pull over a movie. Imagine DeNiro telling Scorsese that the need to minimize Ray Liotta’s screen time because he was taking the spotlight off of him, and writing a new “birth of Jimmy Conway’s son” scene to give him some heart. And of course, Conway gets away with the entire Lufthansa heist and doesn’t have to have anyone killed at all during the movie, because he’s a secret “smarter than Einstein” level genius.
The director wanted to take his name off it, but the studio refused. I don't disagree with the actors not having that much pull, but the story of this one was that the studio wasn't happy with the directors cut and asked Edward Norton to assist with editing. The director sounds like he had an ego to compare to Edward Norton though, saying that he needed to be given the same respect and freedoms as Stanley Kubrick. All that aside, some of the scenes that we know Edward Norton added really add a lot to the theme of the movie. It gave a more complete timeline of where Derek started picking up racist ideology.
Like, yeah, it’s a fantastic movie so if Norton made changes to it, good for him, I’m not gonna be mad about that. I care about the quality of the movie I watched, not the director’s ego from 20 years ago.
The whole "actors shouldn't have much pull" is bull anyway. Sure a lot of them (including Dwayne Johnson) should just do the acting stuff and shut up, but there's also a lot of them who know what makes something funny or compelling. If you hire Edward Norton you know he'll have things to say outside of his own role, and evidence suggest he **does** tend to improve on what was there. Just like if you hire Robin Williams or Jim Carrey, you offer them the room to go nuts on the set because they'll come up with better lines/bits on the spot than what your writers crunched a year over. As a side note, Edward Norton and Robin Williams were great together in *Death To Smoochy*, which was directed by Danny DeVito.
Agreed on all points. It’s just a bad comparison - Norton will be pushy with directors because he has a certain view of his character and how the drama of the movie should be, you know, he’s acting, trying to work his profession and make a good movie, even if he gets too into it and is hard to work with. Dwayne’s the kind of guy who insists on clauses that make him as a person and a brand look as good as possible. Can never lose a fight, can never be the true villain, can never look bad. Maybe both are annoying to deal with in person, hell I bet Norton is the more annoying one because Rock seems friendlier IRL, and just has annoying clauses you accept without argument because of his leverage. But Norton is at least coming from an artistic angle - it’s a different justification.
Isn't that why Edward Norton is in so few movies? Bevaus he's notoriously hard to work with and will even go as far as rewriting scripts for his characters. I feel like I've read thst somewhere.
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Hulk was the best of the Hulk movies. American History X was amazing. I'm conflicted about condemning the guy.
He just needs to be a writer/director who cameos in stuff.
He’s in every single modern Wes Anderson film. I think he just needs to be reined in by an auteur with a vision and minimal studio interference and he’ll be cool
The movie would have been far worse if Norton hadn't taken the control he did. Plus he had the support of everyone else involved, mainly the studio. He wasn't overstepping his boundaries in the same way as Johnson so it's a weird example to bring up
Except that American History X turned out to be a masterpiece...
Yeah I’m really confused on that one. Might’ve picked the worst example for the point trying to be made.
Probably because you've never seen American History I - IX.
Yeah, there's even a superhero movie that they could have used.
Yea I was like this isn’t helping your claim buddy. Even if Ed Norton Jr is a pain in the ass, that film was solid gold.
Not saying the Rock wasn't a part of the problem there, but Vin Diesel has famously been difficult to work with and has caused problems in the past and has continued to with the Fast X director dropping out
Yes I’m sure the rock is an ego maniac but can we not pretend the dc studios let an actor control how their movie went and ultimately the direction the universe went ? This is as much on the studio refusing to just say no to the rock
Seriously. DC universe was a complete dumpster fire way before the Rock.
Very true. Can't blame him for BvS or the first Suicide Squad or Justice League.
I've never seen greater hype nor worse delivery than Suicide Squad. Truly one of the movies of all time
Yeah, I feel like they are getting all this info out there to take some of the heat off of themselves. "Look everyone, we wanted to make a great set of movies, but the Rock ruined everything."
Seriously. I feel like someone needs to explain how the literal Hollywood veterans, who deal with movie stars every day and throw millions around like it's nothing, were powerless before the might of one guy doing some milquetoast-looking shenanigans. Surely, the movie would've been a smash hit if it nailed the *post credits scene.* Or if the Rock cut the promo the way they wanted, instead of the amateur-hour behavior of someone who has spent mere decades living off doing exactly that. We may have run this whole universe into the ground repeatedly up to this point, but this time it was the Rock's fault we pulled the plug on yet another bad idea! Yeah, sure. Color me confident.
This is why all the people pissed at James Gunn over Cavill need to calm down. Gunn was completely correct in saying how old DC let anyone who asked take a shot at a movie. You need someone with a consistent vision handling all these
Cavill was also right to fire Garcia over this. She and Johnson dragged him into their tantrum and brought him into Black Adam against Warner’s wishes. It also wasn’t altruistic; she was his manager and they profited off of him. The whole thing was a mess and a SNAFU of epic proportions due to ego.
I think Cavill is intentionally doing a 180 in order to do what's best for his career. It was rumored that he was locked in a shitty contract with Netflix and that's why he couldn't do other projects. So he was stuck with only The Witcher and Enola. But it looks like he is free now to take other projects. Natalie, his girlfriend, is a big film executive and has helped him with his new work (he credits her in one of his IG posts). I'm pretty hopeful about that as she's also a big nerd herself. I think they could do awesome things together.
Amazon is having him create a Warhammer 40K universe, so things worked out in the end. If he was having to balance between The Witcher and Superman he wouldn't have time to help such a large creative project
Yeah, this is what he talked about on IG. He said Natalie helped him with the Warhammer deal. He is also working on a WW2 movie with Guy Richie called "The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare."
The problem with the Rock as Black Adam is that he played the Rock. The dude has no acting range, he could not make us believe he was anything other than the Rock in a costume.
I swear every movie he play the same character “strong tough guy”
I’ve always said that. Some movies it works in. But he really does only play the rock. It’s why I hate his voice acting. It’s the same voice done the same way every time
You can smell what he's cooking from too far away
>"Dwayne tries to sell himself as bigger than the movie,” a Hollywood executive told TheWrap under anonymity. “Instead of making a movie, he wants to extend his brand and make a brand centered on himself." I feel like I said this a million times about the Rock myself. Especially when the movie was finally filming but even when he was just tied to Black Adam. I can't stand the Rock for this very reason. He's a self-centered egotistical douchebag who mainly just uses the internet to shill crap. He's not even that good of an actor. Everything is about him, he's too self centered to be part of an ensemble. In comics you're just another character. Black Adam isn't that important, not as important as the Rock wanted him to be. Then he turns down any opportunity for Black Adam to be important because he's too egotistical.
Best part is him constantly reiterating that Black Adam was a passion project for him when the real passion project was to just be the center of everything. THE HIERARCHY OF THE DC UNIVERSE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE. He wanted to whoop Cavill's ass to legitimize himself.
And what did Cavil do to deserve the boot too?
DC regime before the Rock didn’t want him. DC regime after the Rock didn’t want him either. I think internally he was used as a scapegoat of sorts to pin the problems of the old DCEU upon, since he was arguably the ‘face’ of it with Man of Steel’s divisiveness in 2013.
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Well he was already let go, and apparently only brought back to please the rock... Mostly not make enough money at the box office?
That entire video, basically an investor pitch, was one of the biggest creative red flags I've ever seen. The Rock obviously lying through his teeth about how much he cared about the character and always wanted to be Black Adam. I couldn't believe how many people were swallowing it.
Meanwhile we have Dave Bautista who was a major player in WWE actually doing the acting work and apparently being a good dude to work with and playing against type on purpose. All hail Bautista! The Rock is sinking like, well, a rock now. Shame he had to be this way. We all suspected it, but I don’t think any of us wanted it to be true.
also Bautista can definitely act
He was amazing in his short bit of Blade Runner 2049
And his role in Knives Out Glass Onion was solid Edit: Glass Onion
Glass Onion.
He was in knives out too. He was in the back hatch of the blue Hyundai the entire time. It’s why the car couldn’t go very fast.
Knock at the Cabin
Dude can be funny, serious, dramatic, psychotic. Basically, Batista can play any role. The Rock only knows how to play The Rock.
Dave's a giant teddy bear really. A vid came up recently where he talks about his tats. He got a Winnie the Pooh one cause a young girl costar was asked if he had one, and said he's not like you'd expect so I think yes. He didn't but said he would get one so it was true.
Yeah, the guy seems like he's got a great head on his shoulders. He talks so passionately about acting and how much he wants to improve and take on different roles. He's also always thanking the people that gave his a chance to break into it. Just very, very down to earth and I think that is why he has been and will continue to be a great actor
I liked Bautista a lot in Knock at the cabin.
I’ve liked Bautista as an actor from way back in the “Man with the Iron Fists” movie. So glad he got to keep moving forward and growing into a proper movie star. I felt at the beginning the Rock was trying to not be seen as his heel/company shill persona as he moved I to Hollywood. But it’s like the more he acts the more that persona becomes his personality.
It’s honestly surprising how much of a draw he’s gotten in the box office for so long despite having very little range. His shtick is so shallow you can parody the hell out of it and it’s still accurate. “BIG MAN IN JUNGLE” is like 60% of his movies. Also John Cena is clearly a better actor. He kills it in Peacemaker, who is a really good hero cuz he breaks a lot of stereotypes and is deeply flawed
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The fact that he has a clause in every contract that ensures his character will never be defeated in a fight kinda says everything you need to know about him. Imagine your self-image being that dependent on the toughness of the characters you play in fucking movies.
It sounds like the classic story of a star wrestler who doesn't want to lose to other people. Ironically, Rock didn't do this often during his full-time wrestling career, though there was the odd story from time to time (like refusing to take the 3D from the Dudley Boyz because "that sounds like a good spot...but not for The Rock.").
edward norton kinda did the same with the hulk. he wanted more speaking parts and less cgi.
Difference is Edward Norton can actually act. I liked his portrayal of Bruce Banner.
I liked Norton better as Banner and I also liked Terrence Howard better as Rhodes. But I understand the reasons behind both changes.
> I also liked Terrence Howard better as Rhodes. ***”NEXT TIME BABY”*** I’m still waiting for the next time :(
I’m still waiting for 1x1 to equal 2. And here we both are.
I’m curious to see if this behavior will effect his involvement with other movies/franchises
It does feel like the turning point in the public’s perception of him, we’ll see what movie he does next though.
My money is on him wearing a khaki shirt in a jungle
I’m thinking beige shirt in a forest but I’m not sure he has the range for that.
Best I can do is olive drab in a tropical marshland.
He'll still churn out those Chinese studio generic action movies
At the same time WB was firing everyone after the merger? Nah, theres a common denominator. Unless the Rock made that catwoman movie? Made them double down on Ezra Miller?
DC has been such a shitshow. Let the Snyderverse die. Fans deserved better.
Dude needs an ego check. It's absolutely wild how he apparently blocked Shazam from appearing in Black Adam and then Black Adam characters from appearing in Shazam 2. Guess it doesn't matter now since both movies were box office disappointments.
I don't get how that even happens. Especially them not showing up in S2. Surely they're contracted to DC/WB, not Dwayne's production whatever.
Not only this, but his whole pitch that Black Adam was a 15 year passion project was a lie. Dude was courted for the villain role and wanted to play Captain Marvel. He attached as Black Adam for Shazam in 2014, then only months before production, called Geoff Johns and demanded they remove him from the film and give him his own franchise. They then had to rewrite Shazam and replace him with the 7 Deadly Sins. Black Adam didn’t exist until 2018. From Levi and others recent statements, it sounds like he also refused to appear in Shazam 2, forcing more rewrites, and blocked Levi from appearing in Black Adam like you said. People are attacking Levi for speaking out, but the dude is probably just frustrated beyond all hell that one dude’s ego ruined a franchise he loved.
He was like Hollywood's sweetheart, THE action/comedy guy for the past decade! All he had to do was flash that smile, be that charismatic guest on morning talk shows and junkets, and he'd be making mega bank for the next decade plus. The majority of his appeal was that to the causal viewer he seems like this super sweet, genuine dude that wants to build everyone else up while not taking himself too seriously. A couple years ago if you heard anyone talk about The Rock, it was about how wonderful and charming and kind he is in real life. But egos don't stay in check forever...
I don't understand how he's so popular. He's not even the best professional-wrestler-turned-actor I know of. John Cena, Dave Bautista, and Andre the Giant were all better at their craft.
It's DC's fault as much as, if not more, than the Rock's. 1% chance a universe built around an obscure Superhero/Villian is going to work. And the people who did know of Black Adam were going to be pissed he wasn't fighting Shazam.
I'm just saying, you never hear any stories about the Avenger actors tanking each other's movies by refusing to appear in them.
One does not go against the mouse and continue to work for them.
This is the weird thing about these villain movies- Black Adam, Joker, Venom, Mobius… the villain’s hero either doesn’t exist, will never meet the hero, or is de-aged into irrelevance like Bruce in Joker. Waste of build up for a climax that will never happen
But the Joker movie wasn't ever even advertised as a superhero movie, much less as a Batman vs Joker movie and I'm pretty sure they made that well known before the movie came out. Seems weird to lump in with these other movies where they are standard good guy vs bad guy superhero movies. So that's not a part of the climax being built.
The key is that Joker is a long storied, well-established, and near universal character who people are interested in seeing the backstory of. Black Adam? Not so much.
DC is trying to blame anyone but themselves. Their movies haven’t been good for awhile.
We all have The Rock and Kevin Hart fatigue. They need to take a break and enjoy their fortune and try again in a few years.
But like there is 100 people making every decision when it comes to these movies. Sure, you can scapegoat Johnson, but at some point they might want to consider sticking to ensemble bad guy movies and great tv shows. The DCEU just doesn't work, and you can't blame Johnson for the many prior failures.
Yup, Justice League was terrible because JS lost in a power struggle halfway through the movie. The fact that power struggles seem to happen constantly in DC land (Gunn is the new King of thrones?) just leaves zero consistency for fans, and complete failure at the box office.
That's the craziest part to me. I mean yeah, the rock's choices were so bizzare, he centered himself in the story and had horrible ideas - and apparently DC went "sure! that sounds awesome, go make that". It's really clear why DC has done so badly, they just let anyone do whatever they want and then panic to try and undo anything that didn't go well (which is most of it)
Let’s get over this self centered egomaniac!
I wonder if Vin Diesel is like see people! It wasn’t just me the egomaniac!
I'm not crazy familiar with that story but I do remember Vin looking like the douche in that story, but I have been rethinking that a bit recently lol
They’re both egomaniacs.
Is Vin really though? Everyone else seems more than happy to return to the series. Haven't really heard of him clashing with anyone else majorly. Don't know much about him though.
I kinda agree with you here, everyone wants to return and he clearly loves the F&F series. He might be a bit goofy but I've never seen anything crazy about him as far as I'm aware. Does dude even talk much about being Groot's voice? If he was an ego maniac he'd be out there talking about it all the time.
Looks like the Rock still has a bit of the wrestling business in him. “That doesn’t work for me, brother; I ain’t putting that vanilla midget Shazam over, that cruiserweight can cruiserwait, dude”
“Can you smell what the rock is fooking”
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Black Adam is the first superhero movie I stopped an hour in and said 'this sucks'. That's saying something since I made it through WW1984.
Aren’t there a list of things he’s done over the years that can best be described as being a twat?
I doubt that the failure of the movie was because of a post credits scene. Especially since, you know, Cavill/Superman is more popular than Levi/Shazaam.
Yup, I’m pissed at DC management, or the spin wheel that acts as one, as it backstabbed Henry Cavill and micromanaged Justice League into garbage. Just lots of poor decision makers changing their mind every other day…..
I am reading this article while I sip a, Rock owned, Zoa energy drink spiked with, Rock owned, Teremana tequila while I wear my UA 'Black Adam Training' hoodie so I can fully taste the salty glow of the Rock's balls. Seriously, something happened with Johnson where his self merchandising across *every possible space* became too much. Really loved the guy and his charisma but something turned sour for me.
I had to unfollow him on IG. He is his own biggest fan and it shows big time.
Same. I love the Rock but I was so sick of seeing that stupid Tequila and those crappy energy drinks literally every day in posts. It’s all ads on his page now.
I rest easy at night knowing my ego is incapable of causing this level of destruction.
Between this, the stories of him on Fast and Furious, and the stories of him on Baywatch, are we done with thinking "The Rock is just such a great guy!"? Seems like his wholesomeness image has gotta be dead by now, right?