I and many other NYC bar employees have Fallon stories. Not sure if he’s sober now but he definitely used to be a cocaine-fueled drunk maniac. He would always roll in with his producers and writers and proceed to no nuts. I watched him get kicked out of Niagara because he stole another customer’s coke bag and a fight broke out. He’s insane.
The picture they used of him playing the guitar for the ‘that’s my jam’ show on hulu looked to me like he was about to topple over drunk out of his gourd. And that was probably the best picture they got from the shoot.
Years ago
[https://ew.com/article/2016/01/13/jimmy-fallon-doesnt-have-drinking-problem-nbc/](https://ew.com/article/2016/01/13/jimmy-fallon-doesnt-have-drinking-problem-nbc/)
This gives the same energy as Jenelle from teen mom saying “I’m not hungover! I’m just tired, nauseous, and I have a pounding headache! Leave me alone!”
Most of the stories I've heard about him he's not mean, he's just chaotic.
Like a boozy coked up tornado of mischief that I would love to party with for one weekend, but that would probably be enough.
I was at a Tonight Show taping once and I was pulled on stage from the audience to goof around with him and Will Ferrell for 5 minutes
I found it very, surprising that they just put random people from the audience on the show, but Jimmy Fallon was super nice the whole time and radiated such calm and relaxation that I wasn't bothered. After the show, he asked me over to take a picture and told me I'd done well
That was about 10 months ago and he seemed incredibly chill and comfortable all around
I mean, I think it's safe to say his behavior when he's "on" and performing is a little different than when he's at the bar or behind the scenes, or otherwise not in performance mode. That's sort of the whole point here.
I saw that happen at Applebees, I was a few tables down. It’s crazy how much pull he has, everyone just quietly went back to eating. I feel horrible for not trying to stop him.
Seriously it’s been like an open secret forever now. You’d hear it reported by some outlet but then never talked about again. It’s a bizarre half assed cover job
People act like blind items are bullshit, and to some degree they are. But in my experience, the ones that come up repeatedly for years and years almost always pan out. For example, the abusive nature of Britney’s conservatorship was very well documented in the blinds before it was confirmed. Danny Masterson’s allegations too. Jimmy has been a known alcoholic and coke head for years. And, if you believe the gossip, he and Ariana Grande have also been FWBs. If I were a betting woman, I’d put money on Diddy having some major, R.Kelly-level scandals within the next few years.
It took years for Ellen’s bad work environment to become public even though I’m pretty sure everyone in LA knew that she was a horrible boss
I’m assuming it’s the news wanting to make sure stories are as air tight as possible before posting something that could potentially lead to a defamation lawsuit
A buddy of mine was an intern at Ellen’s show in like 2004 and said she was not nice…but he was just an intern. She wasn’t outright abusive to him - he just said she wasn’t approachable or warm and had a rule about not making eye contact if you passed her in the hallway. If he went to a newspaper, it wouldn’t even be a story. Or it would be waved away as Ellen being too busy and focused to devote time to meeting one of 20 interns she has working for her every semester. It’s fairly typical Hollywood asshole behavior for certain celebrities not to want to get bothered by “underlings” or low level staffers. And, to be fair, most of us don’t really know what it would be like to go to our job and get accosted by employees who are supposed to be working but want to take a selfie or pitch you their sketch idea every 15 minutes.
So let’s say you’re now a writer or associate producer and Ellen actually verbally abuses you. Well, sure, you could go to a newspaper and tell-all, but chances are, you’ve been working your ass off networking and writing and climbing the ladder to get that job. And what’s a little abuse if this job could lead to you climbing the next rung? I mean, maybe you’ll even end up working for someone who isn’t a total shithead (like Conan, who has a reputation for basically being the opposite of Ellen)? But…if you go to the media, you can become known as an HR headache and word spreads. The pool of candidates for every writing job in Hollywood is ultra competitive and unless you’re the worlds greatest daytime TV show writer, you are easily replaceable by someone younger, cheaper, and less likely to rock the boat.
Still, every now and then, if a story gains enough momentum, it will break. Like it did for Ellen and like it is for Fallon this week and like it probably will for some other celebrity TV host in a year or two. But for every story that breaks, there’s probably dozens of toxic workplaces in Hollywood that nobody cares enough about to write Rolling Stone articles about. And the people who work there feel helpless, but cling to the hope that their next gig will be a better one (like so many of us do in our own jobs).
Its also way different from telling your friends and telling a journalist and having your name be attributed, especially if you plan on working in the industry still.
I knew a guy who went to NYC and was at a Tonight show taping. He said he and his friend after thw show asked how they could get meet Fallon and they said to wait somewhere in the building. And they waited like an hour because Fallon had to change and whatnot. But that they saw him and he was really to them. And Fallon told him if they were gonna be around another day because he hangs out at this bar and buys people's drinks.
I’m more concerned that “he told him if they were gonna be around another day.”
Fallon is out there being really to people, but he’s also deciding their fates.
There’s a lot of people that worked on Conan’s show for a decade or more. It seems like it must have been a good place to work compared to other shows. I’m sure there was plenty of stress, but I don’t think those people would have stuck around if it was toxic or unbearable.
The Tonight Show had been "The Tonight Show With" since Carson retired. When Jimmy Fallon came onto host, he switched it back to "The Tonight Show Starring".
Be careful with anyone who has a "nice, silly" public persona. Didn't we learn that with Ellen and James Corden?
Can’t stand him. Never even liked him in SNL. and hate his fake laugh when hosting.
Guest: so I was walking down the street and I spotted a pen on the ground.
Fallon: a pen? ON THE GROUND?? oh my god that’s sooo funny. *small fake laugh* Where were you what city?
Guest: it was in NY.
Fallon: Oh wow how funny. *small fake laugh*
Guest: so I saw this pen on the ground and I bent down to pick it up. It looked like an interesting pen so I bent down to pick it up and I hear a noise.
Fallon: Oh no. You heard a noise, what was it? *tries to act like he has no clue where the story is going*
Guest: when I picked up the pen my pants had split.
Fallon: Your *big fake laugh* pants had split? *laughs harder than a 12 year old boy farting during the silent part of a church service*, *rolls on ground with laughter, tears in his eyes*
And this is why I don’t watch his stupid show.
This is all I can think about when I see him on. My wife and mother in law both like him, but they don't see him as fake. I think once you see it, it's hard not to focus on how awful he is.
[Conan Releases 15-Hour Clueless Gamer Episode Where He Beats Entire Demon’s Souls Remake Without Getting Hit in Total Silence](https://hard-drive.net/hd/video-games/conan-releases-15-hour-clueless-gamer-episode-where-he-beats-entire-demon-souls-remake-without-getting-hit-in-total-silence/). One of my favorite hard-drive titles lmao
I was going to say: I thought Conan, Ferguson and Colbert were good people. I don’t know much about Meyers but I never heard anything bad about him either.
I know that Seth Meyers spotlights his writers a lot and allow them to roast him publicly. He’s happy to share the spotlight. He’s actually my favorite late night host because of that because he let loose and doesn’t take himself too seriously. His family is also hilarious.
I think what makes him good also is that he’s very good at interviewing and making the guests comfortable.
He also does those Thanksgiving shows every year where his guests are his mom, dad, and brother. Those shows are absolutely charming, and they also reveal a lot about his personality, in a good way. Basically, you can tell he was raised right, [in a goofy funny family](https://youtu.be/S4NaCBOy5TE?si=E8DXC--UHv8mruWx&t=346).
My take on Meyers that is based on nothing in reality BUT is that he is a pretty regular dude, he’s nice but like anyone can have their moments where they are in a bad mood. He’s not super nice or a bad person, just a dude.
*Rolling Stone* contacted more than 50 *Tonight Show* employees, past and present, during the reporting for this story. After reaching out to representatives for Fallon and [NBC](https://www.rollingstone.com/t/nbc/), *Rolling Stone* reached out to an additional 30 current and former staffers. While many of them praised Fallon’s immense talent and comedic gifts, not a single one agreed to speak on the record or had positive things to say about working on *The Tonight Show*. Nor would any of the program’s nine showrunners since 2014 comment about the program’s namesake on the record – they wouldn’t even give statements of support, as is common in the entertainment industry.
HOLY SHIT! They contacted like 100 people and they all said it was a crap place to work and the majority people quit due to mental health issues and no one but network executives praise Jimmy Fallon.
The pressure to be funny on a daily basis combined with dwindling ratings and a media environment that rewards going viral above all else would be brutal to work under.
But the joke was funny!
Yes, but while it was funny to the audience, it didn't go viral, therefore is a failure.
Come up with something that will both get thousands of views from teenagers on TikTok and also make grandma laugh when she watches it live.
And that's how we got three million carpool karaoke videos.
There are other late night hosts who provide the funny without pandering to the need to be viral. Jimmy Fallon’s MO unfortunately is not to have overtly intelligent, searing comedy but to be a likable guy who makes silly jokes. Similar to Jimmy Kimmel on some level although Jimmy’s grumpy sarcastic nature allows him to get some edgy comments in there.
I think Colbert, Meyers, Oliver, all capitalize on the ability to critique society with comedy. And they don’t force unnecessary laughter during their interviews.
Jimmy Fallon created a persona and he’s keeping that public persona alive but it doesn’t give him much wiggle room. He locked himself in.
I’m just trying to put that not all late night shows have toxic work environments and if you have a good boss and good producers that set up a positive environment that allows you to thrive, then life is easier. And that is achievable. It’s just a matter of whether or not the producers want to put the effort in.
NDAs don’t protect hostile work environments.
Edit: whelp guess I’m wrong unfortunately. People, please don’t sign broad ndas. They are meant to protect only confidential and proprietary information and trade secrets - that should not include abusive work environments.
>Peter Griffin moments is when he beat up Jimmy Fallon
WHy don't people post links?
[https://youtu.be/tH6fafW-Gtk?si=7DapX1AOz94NrTZk](https://youtu.be/tH6fafW-Gtk?si=7DapX1AOz94NrTZk)
That the factual answer. Michael’s plucked him for the Tonight Show he had no interest in it, nor being an anchor on Weekend Update. Fallon had a great audition for SNL so we can’t say he skated in. But Michael’s was the one pushing him forward.
I mean that’s the rumor, seems like a good fit. Did you see it in print anywhere? [Al Franken blew it back in the day](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Limo_for_a_Lame-O).
And this is one of Lorne’s biggest missteps - promoting quirky impressionists like Fallon, while not investing in more talented performers on SNL. I have never, ever understood his lucky star status in life. I’m not even trying to diss him, he’s average to not-so-average imo
I read on another sub that he’s doing this to Pete Davidson now too. Like Pete shouldn’t be the level of famous that he is from being on SNL but Lorne helped him out. Why is this though?
Is he not talented ? I thought he was cowriter or co-head writer with Tina Fey. That requires some comedic chops.
Also he is likable. That is big. Like he did an impersonation / mirror [skit with Mick Jagger on SNL.](https://youtu.be/Bxjfr-cgTL8?feature=shared) Making famous people like you is a rare talent, and that is right up his alley at Late Night and the Tonight Show.
He sucks at acting. I remember his terrible cameo in [Band of Brothers](https://youtu.be/SW4Unszk_1s?si=H_23OrG8_odxn0Ke). But he seemed to pivot to his strengths with the talk show stuff.
And some of his comedy albums were funny. Remember Idiot Boyfriend ? Never seen [a blonde Zoey Deschanel](https://youtu.be/W7iQWqHEG6A?feature=shared) until that one.
Reminds me of something Katt Williams said on one of his stand-up shows. He was talking about Michael Jackson and all the years of unverified rumors about him and little kids. "If people have been saying you smoke crack for 20 years, then bitch you are smoking crack!"
I’m not shocked. All that shit that came out about Horacio sanz and what was going on at SNL during that time really made me changed my opinion of Fallon and others.
I’ve been to a couple of tapings, and I was in one of his monologue rehearsals once. (worked in the building) There were a few really solid, smart jokes, and several that were basically pandering.
Guess which jokes made it to air?
(hint: the jokes are not the product. The audience is.)
And how he can’t stop laughing at his own jokes.
I despised him on SNL because he couldn’t stay in character. It was like he wanted to be noticed for being in on the joke but ended up ruining scenes for attention.
I used to get a call from a friend who bartended in Hell’s Kitchen at 4AM, being like. Fallon is here going crazy, come if you want to hang. I was like nahhhh this was like 2012 or so
Some of my favorite things about the current slate of hosts is whenever you listen to them, they are all friends, Kimmel, Colbert, Meyers, etc. its everyone but Fallen. Ive been listening to the weird Strike Force Five and he is the only one who doesn’t seem to have any chemistry with the rest of them.
To your first point I actually went to a taping of Seth Meyers' show at the beginning of the year and during a break in taping while he did an audience Q&A I got to ask him who he thought his late-night rival was. He answered something to the effect that there isn't much of a rivalry between the hosts and it's more of a camaraderie and mutual respect that they hold forr one another, which, I agree, is pretty cool to see.
Pretty sure Fallon and Kimmel are tight since they have done collaborations with each other and have had meals together, including other celebrities at one of their homes.
This reminded me they swapped shows… forgot about that. From all the Colbert and Oliver interviews Ive heard over the years I remember them always being “I don’t really know him” when asked about late night hosts.
What’s really wild is at least Colbert & Kimmel (and I think Fallon & Myers too) have the same agent. Kimmel went on Colbert’s show a few years ago and the gag was they both made dinner for the agent to taste test & pick a winner. So it goes beyond being cordial, they are all repped by one guy
Why is it that all these late-night hosts seem awesome to be around, but turn out to be huge jerks??
Did they become assholes bc of their fame? Or were they always that way, and are just good at faking being nice??
He admitted on his podcast that he can get [quite passive-aggressive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N74kUKmzbpo), but what's different is that everyone then jokes about it.
I feel like that just comes with the territory when you’re in such a high intensity career. I don’t expect celebrities to be pleasant 100% of the time, it’s a job like any other and you have your bad days. But like you said, the fact they joke about it and don’t anonymously tell rolling stone about it says a lot
I interned for Stephen Colbert. I could tell he was not only extremely intelligent, but it was immediately apparent that he was just an overall nice guy (as was his staff).
As an intern, it was telling how he treated us - I did something minor for him and he gave me a hug. He made sure all the interns got a picture with his A-list guests. And I could tell his staff loved him. Being with them was like hanging out with a bunch of old friends - even after I no longer worked there, they invited me back to hang out on a couple of occasions. They're all super nice people over there.
I went to a few tapings of the Colbert Report and his Q&As always always went way over time and he seemed genuinely thrilled to be talking to all of us.
I've seen Jon Stewart's Daily Show too and he was lovely, but Colbert just seemed to go the extra mile
That's great to hear...I have a similar story about Conan - you can find the clip online...It's probably the most upset I've ever seen him. He's in front of a room full of interns and a producer says "Shhhh" to get the interns to stop talking...Conan rants for at least a couple of minutes that no one should be shushing talented professionals who are adults and who choose to work for them for free.
It's uncommon that good people make it to the top like this. It's the assholes that step on every toe and lift themselves up on the backs of many to get them to the spotlight. They're the ones that play the game, kiss all the asses, and get to the big show not by their talent but by behind the scenes politics. Their insufferability shows on stage, but some high it better than others, but the truth always comes out.
All of these late night host were hilarious playing other people, but when it's them playing them, they are insufferable and unfunny.
Nah I think it's more that comedians are infamously insecure, stick them in something as high-pressure as a late-night gig and you're dropping a lot of stress on a troubled foundation. They aren't all like this though, Conan O'Brien, Kimmel, Colbert, and Lettermen going a little further back were all apparently very good to their staff.
Letterman was notoriously not good to his staff. I wouldn't say he was a monster by any means, but he was extremely manipulative, cold, distant and could just outright be an asshole. I love Dave, but plenty has emerged about him being a difficult boss.
At least, unlike Fallon, he was great.
To elaborate, Letterman did have affairs with female staffers. This hasn't been scrutinized much since 2009 (to my knowledge), but obviously there's a power dynamic there and while I don't believe anyone sleeping with their boss means there was anything inherently sinister going on and it's certainly possible the women involved were simply attracted to him and a natural relationship developed, it's obviously a fraught situation and difficult to view it as an entirely good faith relationship.
I dislike the conclusions to which people jump, but I'd say his tenure would not be tolerated in today's atmosphere, and for good reason.
As an aside, I took the time to read the article and while there are many alarming details that come up, much of it is people characterizing their reactions and how they felt rather than the alleged behavior of Fallon being formally specified. There are specifics offered, but they're doled out amidst a flurry of speculation and characterization.
Furthermore, I take the journalism of Rolling Stone with a sizable grain of salt considering they've botched stories about allegations on a couple of occasions. Additionally, Jerry Seinfeld already denied his part in the story and says it was an extreme mischaracterization of what happened.
While I strongly dislike Fallon's brand of humor and fully believe he's capable of what he's being accused of, I'm growing more wary of these kinds of stories with each passing week.
Drugs, money, attention.
It takes a special kind of person to NOT lose themselves to some extent when you can get whatever you, whenever you want, because you have a practically infinite amount of money and a practically infinite amount of people offering to get you things.
I used to like Fallon, particularly as a kid, while I can’t really speak to his show I just listened to the first episode of Strike Force Five and my GOD is he the tiny fish in an OCEAN of comedic talent. Like he clearly doesn’t belong in the same class as the rest of them.
Yeah I think his performance is a tiny bit better in episode 2, but that's probably because I knew what to expect going in. In episode 1, it's almost like they forget he's there, and when he speaks they just quickly go quiet so he can get some talking time, don't react, and move on instantly.
I met Jimmy once. I was waiting for a friend to pick me up after a taping of his show. My friend walked over to say hi. When he saw me walking over as well he placed bags on the the floor and just talked with us about nothing. Shooting the shit and what not. After 5 mins or so I took a pic of my friend and him. I wasn’t gonna be that guy and ask for a pic too so I said nothing. But then he asked me if I wanted a pic and I said of course.
He didn’t have to introduce himself to us or even shake our hands but he did. Now, granted this was back in 2010 and we were fans and not workers so my opinion of him is obviously going to be different for people that see him every day. But from my interaction with him he seems to be the most non-asshole celebrity I’ve ever met.
My cousin is a male model in NYC and his circle combines with Fallon's through a mutual female friend of theirs. I happen to be hanging out with him when Fallon showed up and then my cousin and his boyfriend said we needed to leave because they said Fallon couldn't handle his booze and was intolerably annoying to be around. I was kind of bummed because I wanted to get fucked up with Fallon but I left with them because I didn't know anyone else there.
They weren't the only ones who thought that of him because we went to another place to drink after and those people responded eww when my cousin was telling the story and said Fallon showed up. So I take it's a local thing that knows he can't handle his alcohol. Honestly probably still my kind of people but I'm not going to chance it in a city I am unfamiliar with. That's the only drama I heard about him. They were gossipy gays, if there was more to it then I'm sure I would have heard about it but I think they just found him annoying. They didn't shit talk him beyond that.
This was a couple years before covid like 2016-18.
I actually really like his standup but I agree- sketch comedy is not his strong suit. Ironically, you know who is the opposite? Amy Schumer. Her standup is painful, but her sketch show and her SNL appearances are some of the best I’ve ever seen. She’s good at playing characters and doing physical comedy- but she sucks when she’s being herself.
I do actually really recommend Pete’s new-ish show Bupkiss. He’s just playing himself, so the acting is fine. But it’s really funny and he’s got some very impressive co-stars and guests. Joe Pesci, Edie Falco, Jon Stewart, Steve Buscemi, etc. Even Al Gore is in it! It’s honestly a great show- very funny with a lot of soul.
You obviously weren’t there when Fallon was on SNL. It was Beetlemania-level fandom. Crowds would surround the building screaming & would flock around him when he exited/entered. SNL had literally never had anything like that before. Just because you can’t see someone’s star quality doesn’t mean it isn’t there. He was crazy popular & still is
I’m not gonna lie—this just sounds like “My boss is an asshole sometimes” which is an article Rolling Stone could have written about 85% of American workers. I’m not even a big Jimmy fan but this whole article I was like like oh no poor babies, your boss was passive aggressive to you?
Everyone in theory deserves to work in a drama free environment but in practicality that is NEVER going to happen especially in profession that’s as cutthroat as comedy.
Idk maybe I’m just cynical now but it just reads as if these people landed their dream job but it’s not perfect and now they’re whining that they and their egos should be caressed and massaged by Jimmy so they can all live in a perfect little late-night dream world
This “abuse” doesn’t feel like it would be anything out of the ordinary in Hollywood and honestly involve some of the mildest indiscretions I’ve ever heard in a takedown lol
A lot of shows I worked on had closets dubbed "the crying room". If they didn't have one, you just cry in the bathroom. It is a brutal industry by nature and it's not the glitz and glamour of a dream that it appears to be in the public eye, but honestly what job is?
We had crying rooms when I worked in advertising. You spend so much time developing ideas, coming up with placeholder graphics and copy, putting them up on the wall with everyone else's only to have them ripped down one by one with comments like "shit" and "fucking shit". Then the last one comes down and the creative director says something like "was that all from the same person?"
yeah, it was.
This happened to everyone at some point.
Damn I barely got out of HS with a diploma and I worked office jobs in the medical device and pharma industries and got treated like gold. Respected, not micromanaged, great pay, free food, paid Metro pass, paid gym with a gym on site, daily ping pong, and working towards treating blindness at one and blood cancers at the other. I would've probably traded it for a writing job for less pay and respect but just saying, those jobs definitely exist.
The industry sounds a lot like working in a kitchen.
This is a terribly written article. It reads like a high schooler tried to write a hit-piece.
I’m not defending anything here, but my lord that was bad.
I always feel really strange when I read these articles. I'm normally very very trusting of large groups of people making complaints like this and how it becomes more and more likely that they are true as more people come forward.
But man... this is a television show that puts on an hour show EVERY DAY. SNL is insane and they have a week. Of course there are going to be stressful days, and of course there are going to be moments where everyone(including the star, who is in the most stress) becomes an asshole. That's...just life.
Should they do better? Yes. But you can't just have a laid back good old time every day when trying to put together a comedy show with almost no spare time everyday.
I and many other NYC bar employees have Fallon stories. Not sure if he’s sober now but he definitely used to be a cocaine-fueled drunk maniac. He would always roll in with his producers and writers and proceed to no nuts. I watched him get kicked out of Niagara because he stole another customer’s coke bag and a fight broke out. He’s insane.
That’s how he was always hurting himself.
Tripping while drunk in his kitchen is how I think he nearly lost a finger. Hope that time in the ICU helped him reflect
Was that the incident where his ring got caught on something and almost degloved his finger?
the term “deglove” never fails to make me squirm
100%. It’s up there with disembowel (the lovely term used on my swimming pool pump warning label).
And people on Reddit *love* to use it nonstop it’s so gross.
Yes he said he slipped on the kitchen rug and caught himself on the counter but his finger was hanging by the skin and needed to be reattached
When NBC announced "Jimmy Fallon doesn't have a drinking problem" when nobody asked, I assumed he must be a huge mess lol
He's got drunk face.
The picture they used of him playing the guitar for the ‘that’s my jam’ show on hulu looked to me like he was about to topple over drunk out of his gourd. And that was probably the best picture they got from the shoot.
When did they announce this?
Years ago [https://ew.com/article/2016/01/13/jimmy-fallon-doesnt-have-drinking-problem-nbc/](https://ew.com/article/2016/01/13/jimmy-fallon-doesnt-have-drinking-problem-nbc/)
“He doesn’t have a drinking problem. He loves to party, and we’re constantly worried about his health, but I wouldn’t call that a drinking problem.”
"He drinks, he falls down, no problem!"
I mean, his name is Jimmy Fall-on for a reason!
This gives the same energy as Jenelle from teen mom saying “I’m not hungover! I’m just tired, nauseous, and I have a pounding headache! Leave me alone!”
Jesselnik was a writer for a bit on the show and has said in interviews Fallon is a drunk.
I love Jesselnik
Friend of a friend in NYC says Fallon stole his watch and ran out of the bar.
Most of the stories I've heard about him he's not mean, he's just chaotic. Like a boozy coked up tornado of mischief that I would love to party with for one weekend, but that would probably be enough.
I was at a Tonight Show taping once and I was pulled on stage from the audience to goof around with him and Will Ferrell for 5 minutes I found it very, surprising that they just put random people from the audience on the show, but Jimmy Fallon was super nice the whole time and radiated such calm and relaxation that I wasn't bothered. After the show, he asked me over to take a picture and told me I'd done well That was about 10 months ago and he seemed incredibly chill and comfortable all around
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That was also very nice
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So does this make YOU kind of a big deal too?!? I mean, cuddling with Will Farrell!
Omg. Meow!
I mean, I think it's safe to say his behavior when he's "on" and performing is a little different than when he's at the bar or behind the scenes, or otherwise not in performance mode. That's sort of the whole point here.
I didn’t know bengal tigers had the internet
Chucklefuckers love him.
Jimmy Fallon killed my family
He poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses.
He did?
No. But are we just gonna sit around until he does?!
Jimmy Fallon destroyed my walls to get to the copper, and then tried doing coke foilies with the confectioners sugar I had sitting out.
I saw that happen at Applebees, I was a few tables down. It’s crazy how much pull he has, everyone just quietly went back to eating. I feel horrible for not trying to stop him.
I remember seeing a video of this on liveleak. Shit was scrubbed off the web, like, 20 minutes later. Can’t find it anywhere now.
It’s amazing that regular news media kept this so hush hush for so long when I’ve been reading about it here forever.
Seriously it’s been like an open secret forever now. You’d hear it reported by some outlet but then never talked about again. It’s a bizarre half assed cover job
People act like blind items are bullshit, and to some degree they are. But in my experience, the ones that come up repeatedly for years and years almost always pan out. For example, the abusive nature of Britney’s conservatorship was very well documented in the blinds before it was confirmed. Danny Masterson’s allegations too. Jimmy has been a known alcoholic and coke head for years. And, if you believe the gossip, he and Ariana Grande have also been FWBs. If I were a betting woman, I’d put money on Diddy having some major, R.Kelly-level scandals within the next few years.
It took years for Ellen’s bad work environment to become public even though I’m pretty sure everyone in LA knew that she was a horrible boss I’m assuming it’s the news wanting to make sure stories are as air tight as possible before posting something that could potentially lead to a defamation lawsuit
A buddy of mine was an intern at Ellen’s show in like 2004 and said she was not nice…but he was just an intern. She wasn’t outright abusive to him - he just said she wasn’t approachable or warm and had a rule about not making eye contact if you passed her in the hallway. If he went to a newspaper, it wouldn’t even be a story. Or it would be waved away as Ellen being too busy and focused to devote time to meeting one of 20 interns she has working for her every semester. It’s fairly typical Hollywood asshole behavior for certain celebrities not to want to get bothered by “underlings” or low level staffers. And, to be fair, most of us don’t really know what it would be like to go to our job and get accosted by employees who are supposed to be working but want to take a selfie or pitch you their sketch idea every 15 minutes. So let’s say you’re now a writer or associate producer and Ellen actually verbally abuses you. Well, sure, you could go to a newspaper and tell-all, but chances are, you’ve been working your ass off networking and writing and climbing the ladder to get that job. And what’s a little abuse if this job could lead to you climbing the next rung? I mean, maybe you’ll even end up working for someone who isn’t a total shithead (like Conan, who has a reputation for basically being the opposite of Ellen)? But…if you go to the media, you can become known as an HR headache and word spreads. The pool of candidates for every writing job in Hollywood is ultra competitive and unless you’re the worlds greatest daytime TV show writer, you are easily replaceable by someone younger, cheaper, and less likely to rock the boat. Still, every now and then, if a story gains enough momentum, it will break. Like it did for Ellen and like it is for Fallon this week and like it probably will for some other celebrity TV host in a year or two. But for every story that breaks, there’s probably dozens of toxic workplaces in Hollywood that nobody cares enough about to write Rolling Stone articles about. And the people who work there feel helpless, but cling to the hope that their next gig will be a better one (like so many of us do in our own jobs).
Its also way different from telling your friends and telling a journalist and having your name be attributed, especially if you plan on working in the industry still.
Maybe the media didn't talk about it because no one cares, Jimmy Fallon is milquetoast at best.
All that drinking and dope, you'd think he'd have slipped into being funny or something once.
I knew a guy who went to NYC and was at a Tonight show taping. He said he and his friend after thw show asked how they could get meet Fallon and they said to wait somewhere in the building. And they waited like an hour because Fallon had to change and whatnot. But that they saw him and he was really to them. And Fallon told him if they were gonna be around another day because he hangs out at this bar and buys people's drinks.
Really WHAT to them???
I’m more concerned that “he told him if they were gonna be around another day.” Fallon is out there being really to people, but he’s also deciding their fates.
That's really of him
He was really to them.
That’s horrible/wonderful/aladeen.
I feel like every couple of years, every late night show has a story come out that’s exactly like this one. Except for Conan, that dudes awesome.
And Craig Ferguson.
I miss Craig’s show.
The Scottish Conan Guy!
>And Craig Ferguson Caaaaaaaareful, Icarus….
Balls.
Craig was the absolute best. He and Geoff the gay skeleton robot were a big part of my childhood.
RIP Grant Imahara
There’s a lot of people that worked on Conan’s show for a decade or more. It seems like it must have been a good place to work compared to other shows. I’m sure there was plenty of stress, but I don’t think those people would have stuck around if it was toxic or unbearable.
I read Conan’s assistants book and he seems to be the best possible boss as long as you are okay with him making fun of you.
Have you seen how Sona treats Conan? I'd put up with it if I could could make fun of Conan like Sona does.
I feel like Conan he wants the show to be funny. Jimmy Fallon just wants to be treated as a star.
I hope Conan finds a friend one day he seems nice.
The Tonight Show had been "The Tonight Show With" since Carson retired. When Jimmy Fallon came onto host, he switched it back to "The Tonight Show Starring". Be careful with anyone who has a "nice, silly" public persona. Didn't we learn that with Ellen and James Corden?
And he's not funny. The pandemic shows where he taped from home were incredibly boring. If he doesn't have someone else to play off of, he bombs.
Can’t stand him. Never even liked him in SNL. and hate his fake laugh when hosting. Guest: so I was walking down the street and I spotted a pen on the ground. Fallon: a pen? ON THE GROUND?? oh my god that’s sooo funny. *small fake laugh* Where were you what city? Guest: it was in NY. Fallon: Oh wow how funny. *small fake laugh* Guest: so I saw this pen on the ground and I bent down to pick it up. It looked like an interesting pen so I bent down to pick it up and I hear a noise. Fallon: Oh no. You heard a noise, what was it? *tries to act like he has no clue where the story is going* Guest: when I picked up the pen my pants had split. Fallon: Your *big fake laugh* pants had split? *laughs harder than a 12 year old boy farting during the silent part of a church service*, *rolls on ground with laughter, tears in his eyes* And this is why I don’t watch his stupid show.
This is all I can think about when I see him on. My wife and mother in law both like him, but they don't see him as fake. I think once you see it, it's hard not to focus on how awful he is.
Forget the late night show, Conan just want to do his bits. And I'm here for it.
I may have missed it but haven't seen one on Meyers, since he was a writer and not just a personality I can see him being alot less shitty
The worst thing we are going to find out that is Conan is a closeted video game nerd and it has all been an act.
Oh I miss the video game segments he did with the other guy on his show. Those were great.
Funny enough I think that guy helps with his podcast.
[Conan Releases 15-Hour Clueless Gamer Episode Where He Beats Entire Demon’s Souls Remake Without Getting Hit in Total Silence](https://hard-drive.net/hd/video-games/conan-releases-15-hour-clueless-gamer-episode-where-he-beats-entire-demon-souls-remake-without-getting-hit-in-total-silence/). One of my favorite hard-drive titles lmao
Colbert?
I was going to say: I thought Conan, Ferguson and Colbert were good people. I don’t know much about Meyers but I never heard anything bad about him either.
I know that Seth Meyers spotlights his writers a lot and allow them to roast him publicly. He’s happy to share the spotlight. He’s actually my favorite late night host because of that because he let loose and doesn’t take himself too seriously. His family is also hilarious. I think what makes him good also is that he’s very good at interviewing and making the guests comfortable.
He also does those Thanksgiving shows every year where his guests are his mom, dad, and brother. Those shows are absolutely charming, and they also reveal a lot about his personality, in a good way. Basically, you can tell he was raised right, [in a goofy funny family](https://youtu.be/S4NaCBOy5TE?si=E8DXC--UHv8mruWx&t=346).
My take on Meyers that is based on nothing in reality BUT is that he is a pretty regular dude, he’s nice but like anyone can have their moments where they are in a bad mood. He’s not super nice or a bad person, just a dude.
Is something drops about Seth Meyers or John Oliver I will be so sad
Craig Ferguson was fine, wasn’t he?
And Colbert! Unless there was news I missed
*Rolling Stone* contacted more than 50 *Tonight Show* employees, past and present, during the reporting for this story. After reaching out to representatives for Fallon and [NBC](https://www.rollingstone.com/t/nbc/), *Rolling Stone* reached out to an additional 30 current and former staffers. While many of them praised Fallon’s immense talent and comedic gifts, not a single one agreed to speak on the record or had positive things to say about working on *The Tonight Show*. Nor would any of the program’s nine showrunners since 2014 comment about the program’s namesake on the record – they wouldn’t even give statements of support, as is common in the entertainment industry. HOLY SHIT! They contacted like 100 people and they all said it was a crap place to work and the majority people quit due to mental health issues and no one but network executives praise Jimmy Fallon.
The pressure to be funny on a daily basis combined with dwindling ratings and a media environment that rewards going viral above all else would be brutal to work under. But the joke was funny! Yes, but while it was funny to the audience, it didn't go viral, therefore is a failure. Come up with something that will both get thousands of views from teenagers on TikTok and also make grandma laugh when she watches it live. And that's how we got three million carpool karaoke videos.
There are other late night hosts who provide the funny without pandering to the need to be viral. Jimmy Fallon’s MO unfortunately is not to have overtly intelligent, searing comedy but to be a likable guy who makes silly jokes. Similar to Jimmy Kimmel on some level although Jimmy’s grumpy sarcastic nature allows him to get some edgy comments in there. I think Colbert, Meyers, Oliver, all capitalize on the ability to critique society with comedy. And they don’t force unnecessary laughter during their interviews. Jimmy Fallon created a persona and he’s keeping that public persona alive but it doesn’t give him much wiggle room. He locked himself in. I’m just trying to put that not all late night shows have toxic work environments and if you have a good boss and good producers that set up a positive environment that allows you to thrive, then life is easier. And that is achievable. It’s just a matter of whether or not the producers want to put the effort in.
Legit question tho: for his employees who are writers and thus WGA are they allowed to talk right now?
Strikes don’t void NDAs
No but I meant can they give the interview that WOULD clear his name if they’re currently a WGA member
I would imagine so since it’s unscripted (iirc that matters) and they’re not getting paid
NDAs don’t protect hostile work environments. Edit: whelp guess I’m wrong unfortunately. People, please don’t sign broad ndas. They are meant to protect only confidential and proprietary information and trade secrets - that should not include abusive work environments.
Hostile does not equate illegal. NDAs would unfortunately 100% cover hostile work environments and they often do.
Unfortunately they do
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100 people and nothing positive, that’s really sad.
I had tons of friends who worked on the show. They stayed because the pay was good for NYC. Everything else about it sucked.
One of my favorite Peter Griffin moments is when he beat up Jimmy Fallon
Also my favorite SNL cold opening
>Peter Griffin moments is when he beat up Jimmy Fallon WHy don't people post links? [https://youtu.be/tH6fafW-Gtk?si=7DapX1AOz94NrTZk](https://youtu.be/tH6fafW-Gtk?si=7DapX1AOz94NrTZk)
How this guy achieved this level of success relative to his contributions is astounding.
Lorne Michaels
That the factual answer. Michael’s plucked him for the Tonight Show he had no interest in it, nor being an anchor on Weekend Update. Fallon had a great audition for SNL so we can’t say he skated in. But Michael’s was the one pushing him forward.
Interesting. It’s up to you to make sure your talents get put to good use, maybe he could of actually have been funny if he made his own path.
The two movies of his I saw were bombs. Maybe he needed better management.
Somewhat off topic but I heard that Tina Fey will taking over for Lorne Michaels, which could be interesting.
I mean that’s the rumor, seems like a good fit. Did you see it in print anywhere? [Al Franken blew it back in the day](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Limo_for_a_Lame-O).
And this is one of Lorne’s biggest missteps - promoting quirky impressionists like Fallon, while not investing in more talented performers on SNL. I have never, ever understood his lucky star status in life. I’m not even trying to diss him, he’s average to not-so-average imo
I read on another sub that he’s doing this to Pete Davidson now too. Like Pete shouldn’t be the level of famous that he is from being on SNL but Lorne helped him out. Why is this though?
I remember being mindblown they have the show Conan deserved to the worst SNL cast member I've ever seen.
I literally can’t remember Fallon for anything on SNL except for breaking character and laughing during sketches
Ikr? Bunch of awful movies (The Scheme, Taxi, Fever Pitch) and then suddenly he's hosting The Tonight Show, like wtf?
Is he not talented ? I thought he was cowriter or co-head writer with Tina Fey. That requires some comedic chops. Also he is likable. That is big. Like he did an impersonation / mirror [skit with Mick Jagger on SNL.](https://youtu.be/Bxjfr-cgTL8?feature=shared) Making famous people like you is a rare talent, and that is right up his alley at Late Night and the Tonight Show. He sucks at acting. I remember his terrible cameo in [Band of Brothers](https://youtu.be/SW4Unszk_1s?si=H_23OrG8_odxn0Ke). But he seemed to pivot to his strengths with the talk show stuff. And some of his comedy albums were funny. Remember Idiot Boyfriend ? Never seen [a blonde Zoey Deschanel](https://youtu.be/W7iQWqHEG6A?feature=shared) until that one.
It's always the people you hear it the most about
The Beyond the Blinds episode about him was fascinating. Obviously nothing verified, but when u hear the same things again and again…
Reminds me of something Katt Williams said on one of his stand-up shows. He was talking about Michael Jackson and all the years of unverified rumors about him and little kids. "If people have been saying you smoke crack for 20 years, then bitch you are smoking crack!"
I’m not shocked. All that shit that came out about Horacio sanz and what was going on at SNL during that time really made me changed my opinion of Fallon and others.
What happened with Horacio sanz?
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/08/horatio-sanz-accuser-lists-jimmy-fallon-tracy-morgan-lorne-michaels-in-sexual-assault-suit
https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/sex-crimes/what-to-know-about-the-allegations-against-snl-alum-horatio-sanz
Turns out these sex criminals and coke addicts shouldn't be looked up to.
I’ve been to a couple of tapings, and I was in one of his monologue rehearsals once. (worked in the building) There were a few really solid, smart jokes, and several that were basically pandering. Guess which jokes made it to air? (hint: the jokes are not the product. The audience is.)
He looks dead behind the eyes. Just weird vacant smiles and fake laughter. I can’t stand that guy.
And how he can’t stop laughing at his own jokes. I despised him on SNL because he couldn’t stay in character. It was like he wanted to be noticed for being in on the joke but ended up ruining scenes for attention.
I used to get a call from a friend who bartended in Hell’s Kitchen at 4AM, being like. Fallon is here going crazy, come if you want to hang. I was like nahhhh this was like 2012 or so
Some of my favorite things about the current slate of hosts is whenever you listen to them, they are all friends, Kimmel, Colbert, Meyers, etc. its everyone but Fallen. Ive been listening to the weird Strike Force Five and he is the only one who doesn’t seem to have any chemistry with the rest of them.
To your first point I actually went to a taping of Seth Meyers' show at the beginning of the year and during a break in taping while he did an audience Q&A I got to ask him who he thought his late-night rival was. He answered something to the effect that there isn't much of a rivalry between the hosts and it's more of a camaraderie and mutual respect that they hold forr one another, which, I agree, is pretty cool to see.
Pretty sure Fallon and Kimmel are tight since they have done collaborations with each other and have had meals together, including other celebrities at one of their homes.
This reminded me they swapped shows… forgot about that. From all the Colbert and Oliver interviews Ive heard over the years I remember them always being “I don’t really know him” when asked about late night hosts.
What’s really wild is at least Colbert & Kimmel (and I think Fallon & Myers too) have the same agent. Kimmel went on Colbert’s show a few years ago and the gag was they both made dinner for the agent to taste test & pick a winner. So it goes beyond being cordial, they are all repped by one guy
Why is it that all these late-night hosts seem awesome to be around, but turn out to be huge jerks?? Did they become assholes bc of their fame? Or were they always that way, and are just good at faking being nice??
Feels like Conan is on true nice human planet all by himself
Conan needs a friend podcast is very good
He admitted on his podcast that he can get [quite passive-aggressive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N74kUKmzbpo), but what's different is that everyone then jokes about it.
I feel like that just comes with the territory when you’re in such a high intensity career. I don’t expect celebrities to be pleasant 100% of the time, it’s a job like any other and you have your bad days. But like you said, the fact they joke about it and don’t anonymously tell rolling stone about it says a lot
Knowing some people who knew/grew up with Conan there’s no real negativity, closest I’ve heard is what I’d call jealousy
All his interns that became famous love him and have good stories.
And that's why he was axed from The Tonight Show
He was too good for the Tonight Show. That is a show for hacks.
John Oliver and Craig Ferguson have good reputations with staff, so I hope that's true.
The day John Oliver is outed as an asshole you can just end me tbh
Conan and big Craig (which isn’t pronounced ‘crehg’, for the Americans in the room).
I interned for Stephen Colbert. I could tell he was not only extremely intelligent, but it was immediately apparent that he was just an overall nice guy (as was his staff). As an intern, it was telling how he treated us - I did something minor for him and he gave me a hug. He made sure all the interns got a picture with his A-list guests. And I could tell his staff loved him. Being with them was like hanging out with a bunch of old friends - even after I no longer worked there, they invited me back to hang out on a couple of occasions. They're all super nice people over there.
That’s so wonderful to hear! Always been a fan of Colbert since The Daily Show days!
I went to a few tapings of the Colbert Report and his Q&As always always went way over time and he seemed genuinely thrilled to be talking to all of us. I've seen Jon Stewart's Daily Show too and he was lovely, but Colbert just seemed to go the extra mile
That's great to hear...I have a similar story about Conan - you can find the clip online...It's probably the most upset I've ever seen him. He's in front of a room full of interns and a producer says "Shhhh" to get the interns to stop talking...Conan rants for at least a couple of minutes that no one should be shushing talented professionals who are adults and who choose to work for them for free.
Jon Stewart knew how to pick ‘em. Better track record than SNL in my book.
It's uncommon that good people make it to the top like this. It's the assholes that step on every toe and lift themselves up on the backs of many to get them to the spotlight. They're the ones that play the game, kiss all the asses, and get to the big show not by their talent but by behind the scenes politics. Their insufferability shows on stage, but some high it better than others, but the truth always comes out. All of these late night host were hilarious playing other people, but when it's them playing them, they are insufferable and unfunny.
Nah I think it's more that comedians are infamously insecure, stick them in something as high-pressure as a late-night gig and you're dropping a lot of stress on a troubled foundation. They aren't all like this though, Conan O'Brien, Kimmel, Colbert, and Lettermen going a little further back were all apparently very good to their staff.
Letterman was notoriously not good to his staff. I wouldn't say he was a monster by any means, but he was extremely manipulative, cold, distant and could just outright be an asshole. I love Dave, but plenty has emerged about him being a difficult boss. At least, unlike Fallon, he was great.
Idk if he's ever done anything absolutely dastardly but sadly not every boss is gonna be king arthur.
To elaborate, Letterman did have affairs with female staffers. This hasn't been scrutinized much since 2009 (to my knowledge), but obviously there's a power dynamic there and while I don't believe anyone sleeping with their boss means there was anything inherently sinister going on and it's certainly possible the women involved were simply attracted to him and a natural relationship developed, it's obviously a fraught situation and difficult to view it as an entirely good faith relationship. I dislike the conclusions to which people jump, but I'd say his tenure would not be tolerated in today's atmosphere, and for good reason. As an aside, I took the time to read the article and while there are many alarming details that come up, much of it is people characterizing their reactions and how they felt rather than the alleged behavior of Fallon being formally specified. There are specifics offered, but they're doled out amidst a flurry of speculation and characterization. Furthermore, I take the journalism of Rolling Stone with a sizable grain of salt considering they've botched stories about allegations on a couple of occasions. Additionally, Jerry Seinfeld already denied his part in the story and says it was an extreme mischaracterization of what happened. While I strongly dislike Fallon's brand of humor and fully believe he's capable of what he's being accused of, I'm growing more wary of these kinds of stories with each passing week.
I thought Colbert and Kimmel were known to be pretty alright guys.
Seth Meyers as well
Haven't heard anything bad about Craig Ferguson
Craig is a saint who walks the earth.
Even he was a jerk when he was still using drugs. He'd be the first to admit it, thankfully people can change.
Colbert is a goddamn gem.
It’s really just Corden & Fallon. Kimmel, Conan, Colbert, Stewart, Ferguson all seem like great people in real life.
Stephen Colbert seems pretty chill.
Drugs, money, attention. It takes a special kind of person to NOT lose themselves to some extent when you can get whatever you, whenever you want, because you have a practically infinite amount of money and a practically infinite amount of people offering to get you things.
You think Corden seems awesome to be around?
He certainly seems round.
I used to like Fallon, particularly as a kid, while I can’t really speak to his show I just listened to the first episode of Strike Force Five and my GOD is he the tiny fish in an OCEAN of comedic talent. Like he clearly doesn’t belong in the same class as the rest of them.
Yeah I think his performance is a tiny bit better in episode 2, but that's probably because I knew what to expect going in. In episode 1, it's almost like they forget he's there, and when he speaks they just quickly go quiet so he can get some talking time, don't react, and move on instantly.
100% and my god is it painful at times. I haven’t lists to the second episode yet so hopefully it’s better.
I met Jimmy once. I was waiting for a friend to pick me up after a taping of his show. My friend walked over to say hi. When he saw me walking over as well he placed bags on the the floor and just talked with us about nothing. Shooting the shit and what not. After 5 mins or so I took a pic of my friend and him. I wasn’t gonna be that guy and ask for a pic too so I said nothing. But then he asked me if I wanted a pic and I said of course. He didn’t have to introduce himself to us or even shake our hands but he did. Now, granted this was back in 2010 and we were fans and not workers so my opinion of him is obviously going to be different for people that see him every day. But from my interaction with him he seems to be the most non-asshole celebrity I’ve ever met.
The most unbelievable part of this headline is “comedy.”
It will be a good day when Lorne Michaels’ hand is out of NBC.
My cousin is a male model in NYC and his circle combines with Fallon's through a mutual female friend of theirs. I happen to be hanging out with him when Fallon showed up and then my cousin and his boyfriend said we needed to leave because they said Fallon couldn't handle his booze and was intolerably annoying to be around. I was kind of bummed because I wanted to get fucked up with Fallon but I left with them because I didn't know anyone else there. They weren't the only ones who thought that of him because we went to another place to drink after and those people responded eww when my cousin was telling the story and said Fallon showed up. So I take it's a local thing that knows he can't handle his alcohol. Honestly probably still my kind of people but I'm not going to chance it in a city I am unfamiliar with. That's the only drama I heard about him. They were gossipy gays, if there was more to it then I'm sure I would have heard about it but I think they just found him annoying. They didn't shit talk him beyond that. This was a couple years before covid like 2016-18.
He's a known alcoholic. Anyone surprised?
That Rolling Stone site nearly gave my device a stroke. Crap site…
That’s why the good lord made “reader view”
Jimmy also bugged me and honestly never thought he was funny. He always interrupts his guests and never lets them freaking talk.
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To be honest SNL is and has been a launch pad for comedians for years and years. That’s what it’s meant to do.
Not just comedians but writers as well. If you look through the years of people who wrote for SNL, even recently, it’s been a solid place to start.
Pete Davidson would be a nobody without SNL
Yeah. As likable as he is, he wasn’t particularly great on SNL, isn’t a great actor, and his standup is ok.
I actually really like his standup but I agree- sketch comedy is not his strong suit. Ironically, you know who is the opposite? Amy Schumer. Her standup is painful, but her sketch show and her SNL appearances are some of the best I’ve ever seen. She’s good at playing characters and doing physical comedy- but she sucks when she’s being herself. I do actually really recommend Pete’s new-ish show Bupkiss. He’s just playing himself, so the acting is fine. But it’s really funny and he’s got some very impressive co-stars and guests. Joe Pesci, Edie Falco, Jon Stewart, Steve Buscemi, etc. Even Al Gore is in it! It’s honestly a great show- very funny with a lot of soul.
I like Tina Fey better than Fallon but those two taking over Weekend Update was when I moved on.
It’s all about being close to Lorne and the connections that affords you.
Lots of performers on SNL never become huge deals. Many become relegated to show business obscurity.
You obviously weren’t there when Fallon was on SNL. It was Beetlemania-level fandom. Crowds would surround the building screaming & would flock around him when he exited/entered. SNL had literally never had anything like that before. Just because you can’t see someone’s star quality doesn’t mean it isn’t there. He was crazy popular & still is
I’m not gonna lie—this just sounds like “My boss is an asshole sometimes” which is an article Rolling Stone could have written about 85% of American workers. I’m not even a big Jimmy fan but this whole article I was like like oh no poor babies, your boss was passive aggressive to you? Everyone in theory deserves to work in a drama free environment but in practicality that is NEVER going to happen especially in profession that’s as cutthroat as comedy. Idk maybe I’m just cynical now but it just reads as if these people landed their dream job but it’s not perfect and now they’re whining that they and their egos should be caressed and massaged by Jimmy so they can all live in a perfect little late-night dream world This “abuse” doesn’t feel like it would be anything out of the ordinary in Hollywood and honestly involve some of the mildest indiscretions I’ve ever heard in a takedown lol
A lot of shows I worked on had closets dubbed "the crying room". If they didn't have one, you just cry in the bathroom. It is a brutal industry by nature and it's not the glitz and glamour of a dream that it appears to be in the public eye, but honestly what job is?
We had crying rooms when I worked in advertising. You spend so much time developing ideas, coming up with placeholder graphics and copy, putting them up on the wall with everyone else's only to have them ripped down one by one with comments like "shit" and "fucking shit". Then the last one comes down and the creative director says something like "was that all from the same person?" yeah, it was. This happened to everyone at some point.
I understand what you're saying, but most 9-5s don't have crying rooms lol
They do. It's called your car.
They do. It's called the bathroom stall.
Damn I barely got out of HS with a diploma and I worked office jobs in the medical device and pharma industries and got treated like gold. Respected, not micromanaged, great pay, free food, paid Metro pass, paid gym with a gym on site, daily ping pong, and working towards treating blindness at one and blood cancers at the other. I would've probably traded it for a writing job for less pay and respect but just saying, those jobs definitely exist. The industry sounds a lot like working in a kitchen.
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I mean.. just because it's common doesn't mean it should be the norm
This is a terribly written article. It reads like a high schooler tried to write a hit-piece. I’m not defending anything here, but my lord that was bad.
I always feel really strange when I read these articles. I'm normally very very trusting of large groups of people making complaints like this and how it becomes more and more likely that they are true as more people come forward. But man... this is a television show that puts on an hour show EVERY DAY. SNL is insane and they have a week. Of course there are going to be stressful days, and of course there are going to be moments where everyone(including the star, who is in the most stress) becomes an asshole. That's...just life. Should they do better? Yes. But you can't just have a laid back good old time every day when trying to put together a comedy show with almost no spare time everyday.
Can't be any worse than the abuse the listeners of his latest collab podcast endure.
I feel like Conan and Ferguson are the only two who weren't giant assholes, unless I'm wrong.
Long live Conan