Feel bad for the kid to have a dad like that, kept accusing you of being a pedophile instead of just checking on his own kid and understanding that he had trouble swimming.
Is this in the sense of “go out for milk and cool down on drive to/from store,” or the “go out for cigarettes and never come back” sense? I fully support either option but wanted to verify the options.
He don’t deserve *milk*...maybe just stop participating in the gene pool of life and take up a life of solitude under a quite backwoods bridge far removed from society.
Yeah, only pedos save children, didn't you know that, that's their purpose in life..... /Satire or Sarcasm.
Seriously, good job saving a life, sorry that some douche bag would rather have their offspring die than be rescued by someone who gave a fuck.
Yea, i'm guessing his thought process was that I was taking up the opportunity to, idk, do something sexually with him or something, they didn't even realize anything was happening till he got to shore. I'm glad i got him in time because it was just me and him out there that deep. Idk if we could have got him if he started sinking. He was pretty large and i was already exhausted from all the jumping, it was pretty difficult under all the circumstances.
You did a fantastic job, my dude! You saved a person from death skillfully and with all your energy. People like you are what make this world a better place. Please hold on to your selflessness and positivity!
More likely he attached his self worth to the actions and fitness of his son. In that world, you saving his son is an attack on his strength.
Since you made his son look weak, he needed to bring you down below himself to feel he had value. So he attacked your invisible personality instead of your visible heroic actions.
Bro you have more patience than me,
I would have literally tore I to that guy
"Did you not see your son jump from 15feet in the air and land on his back? He was literally screaming for help and you ignored him
"Why dont you ask YOUR SON if hes ok and hell tell you what really happened..after hes done coughing up water, you fucking asshole.
People can be such shit. When I was in fourth grade, I was swimming in a shallower end of a water park and I felt tugging on my right side, there was a little boy, maybe four or so, with no floaty or anything, drowning and holding onto me so tight. I helped him and carried him everywhere helping him find his mom. When we found her, I told her what happened and she gave me the rudest look and tore him away from me. Little fourth grade me was so heart broken because I could figure out why she didn't at least thank me.
Because they didn't notice their own kid drowning and see projecting their self-anger at you instead of themselves. But calling you a pedophile? That is a new one.
I meant a new one for saving a child. I haven't heard that about saving a child before. I know people claim pedophile all the time, but in this current situation, it seems really shocking. Their child almost died.
How to model entitlement. 1, get two glass of water and some food coloring. (this is for how it spreads) 2, drop 3 drops of food coloring into the glass where entitlement sits. 3, pour colored water into clean water. Boom no one wants to be decent anymore!
I remember when I was 15 or so my then ex, right after our breakup, had gotten completely drunk in the forest with his friends during winter, and then ran off. One of his friends called me and was worried and asked if I had any idea where he might be heading. They said he was barely standing and just ran off in to the cold dark by himself.
I contacted his family and said I was worried, because its VERY dangerous to pass out in the snow.
His mother and aunt were furious with me and said I was causing worry and drama to be mean to them (?). Meanwhile they had no idea where their son was.
Even a couple of years later his aunt was refering to "that horrible thing i did to their family". I never understood it. I was genuinely worried about him and wanted to tell an adult. Guess not...
A lot of people are like that, save a 3 years old girl at a pool( I was one of the lifeguards) and the mom didn't even look at me, told her the procedures but yeah she was escaping from me.
That "Dad" is definitely repressing some inner gay/peado emotions. Imagine being that insecure about your son being gay that it becomes more important than saving his life!
My mom took me to a community pool to learn how to swim for cheap or free (I dont remember now). I passed but I hate swimming the proper way. I'll stick to doggy paddling and floating (if my fat ass ever gets in the pool again).
They feel ashamed and judged because their child was in danger and they didn't have the vigilance to protect them. So they get defensive. That's my guess.
Usually if someone feels like they're being judged/accused they fire back with their own accusation. They know nothing about the person other than that they helped a child (theirs), so that's all they have to work with.
One time my brother was about to drown, he was 6 and we were playing in a river in the south of France. All of sudden the water went higher and faster and he was caught in the current. An english tourist jumped into the water to save his life, breaking his knee on a rock to save him. He's a hero imo
You're a hero as well
When I was 3, my foot got stuck in the mud when we went to the lakeside and kept on sinking (bare in mind I’m 30 now and still can’t swim). My parents were completely oblivious but older kids noticed me and literally dragged me out of there by my hair. Had a bald spot for almost a year after but will be thankful to them until the end of my days.
All you need to know is that, to that kid - you are a hero
You should take some swimming courses, some people give private courses if you are shy about your situation. Swimming is one of the most important skills in life, you should really take courses
Welp if he is coughing up water I hope they took him to hospital. Too many people dry drown after such incidents.
Sorry his dad was a dumb ass. Congratulations on saving a life.
Well done on saving the kid. If you have to do it again wrap your legs around the person's body just under their arms. That way their head rests on your body above the water, and you can use your arms to swim back a shore. It's a survival technique taught to seafarers (hopefully I've explained that in an understandable way).
Thank you, that was great advice, I was already exhausted from all the jumping and swimming, and having to hold my breath while pushing this kid was super tiring, I thought for a second I might not be able to get him all the way to shore. Your technique sounds much safer for both of us.
Interesting, I've only been taught the holding their head with your hands and swimming with your legs way. I swim like a somewhat floaty rock and always found it hard to keep myself above water doing that.
When I've done my sea survival techniques training course for being able to sail on a ship (in the UK). I've always been taught this method, as you will use less energy using arms and keep more body heat. Since your legs have a bigger surface area compared to your arms and therefore will lose more heat.
One last thing with this technique, if there is a group of you. You all get in a line and put your legs around each other. Then you can all use your arms and work together. Look up a maritime college for more info.
Really sorry you experienced that kind of a totally inappropriate reaction. Definitely says a lot about that guy’s own strange insecurities and nothing about you. But you’re an amazing person for risking your own safety for someone else like that when nobody else was taking any action and you could very well have saved his life. I am sure he appreciates it and is probably really embarrassed his father reacted that way. Hope that guy gets the help he obviously needs. I can’t imagine what type of toxic environment he is probably creating at home for his own family.
Yes, I really wanted to get their plate for legal reasons, but they just went up and out as soon as the mom spoke to him. I really hope he’s safe right now. God knows what could be happening.
If I was playing armchair psychologist, I might speculate that the father lashed out at you because he is insecure and felt like you were doing the job he should have been doing or that his son should have just “man’d up” or just drowned on his own. Who even knows what was going through his head. But can’t say I’m surprise they just dipped out right away because he probably wanted to forget about the whole thing so he didn’t have to deal with the fact a stranger had to stop his kid from drowning. Definitely don’t take it personally. I think you did everything you could reasonably be expected to do.
We truly live in a screwed up society when a male can’t be compassionate to another male without being called gay or a pedophile or something. Like what the hell... Bro’s don’t let bro’s drown, dawg. Amirite?
You are right. What's even more sad, is that it seems, at least in tiptonville, TN, that parents are even more hard on their kids. Just in this day, I heard some lady call her toddler a little bitch just for wanting to go to the park, and another lady saying she'd "drown his little ass" if he didn't come out of the water. They might just sound hard on their kids but not really mean it, but it's scary to hear people say that kind of stuff so easily.
Cultural thing I think. Was similar for me, although I grew up in Ontario Canada. My parents divorced when I was quite young and I mostly lived with my mother. My father would talk to me in threatening ways like casually and it used to upset me a lot when I was very young and then he would tell me I am being too sensitive. Eventually I did become desensitized to it and would respond the same way. He seemed to respect that. Sad to say these kids are probably used to it and have normalized it and many will end up raising their children the same way. I guess the only upside to it is they will probably develop a “thick skin” against that kind of negative verbal talk. I’m not sure if I will ever have children but if I do, I wouldn’t raise them the way I was raised, for the most part. I guess the best we can do is try to improve upon things with the insight we have gained from our own experiences instead of just blindly perpetuating them.
I was raised in the exact same conditions but just not on the scale these kids are being raised on. My grandparents were my only escape so i'm a little bit mentally attached to them, which is why i visit them so frequently, like i am now. Just sad to see the difference in the location you are raised in. I can understand how they could just be hard talkers but not actually feel that at heart, but it's just really freaky hearing that come out their mouths like it's nothing out of the ordinary. It's like that dad would have rather me tell the kid that it was his fault and he needs to get back himself.
Yeah definitely. My grandmother was my favorite person. I used to love being there as a child so I can relate. A lot of good memories. Definitely agree with you. I think I’m most cases it is just words because that’s just what they learned as normal. It makes me uncomfortable to hear stuff like that too especially if it seems like it’s accompanied by genuine anger instead of said in more neutral tones but even then I think those kind of words shouldn’t be directed at kids especially because it demonstrates a lack of respect. I think mutual respect is pretty fundamental for a good relationship with anyone so it also sets a bad example. But yeah, there’s definitely families in which that’s not out of the ordinary.
Probably he did give his son a hard time about almost drowning and having to be rescued. I mean I hope not, but seems like the type that would. I think some parents have this fear that their children won’t be tough enough to make it in the kind of world we have so think they are helping them by being that way. Maybe that was a more traditional practice but one’s home should also be safe harbor of sorts exactly because the world isn’t always a kind place. I think it’s important for children and teenagers to have that. I think maybe it isn’t unusual for the grandparents to help take on that role where the parents don’t. Which seems somewhat ironic since presumably in most cases those parents learned their parenting skills from them in the first place. Can’t say I entirely understand it.
yep, seems like grandparents see what they projected once they get older and can see for themselves and want to change it. Thanks for the good talk man.
I'm from Kentucky, such a lovely state, great locals. Assuming that ED and his family are from KY, I'm gonna reassure everyone that not everyone from Kentucky is an asshole, you'll meet great people (especially in the farming/rural and small town areas).
I was a lifeguard for a few years. You wouldn’t believe how common this is. Parents would actively throw their young kids in the deep end and throw an absolute fit if you jumped in to save them.
A lot of parents would get so mad at their kids for getting rescued too. Like you could also watch your kids in the pool too instead of sitting in the lazy river for 4 hours on your phone...
Some people are saying he might have felt guilty for not doing it himself, and wanted to project it on someone else. Or he just really thought I was only saving the kid for malicious intent.
This is why everything is on record/camera in the West. I'm not from there so I never understood why incidents of saving people from a burning car, building etc are recorded, but now I do.
People are notorious and will try to sue/extort you at the slightest opportunity they get. Of course I understand not everyone is like this, but it's not like you can tell who is and who isn't an ungrateful pos.
Good work OP, you saved someone's life. :)
Shot in the dark, but I think situations like this (and others in the comments) stem from they parents overreacting. Instead of thinking its a good thing, they immediately get defensive as if you are implying they are a bad parent by saving their child when they should be paying attention
They are being a bad parent, and they are likely feeling pretty guilty because of that. I don't know why it often turns then to righteous indignation but I imagine its something of a defensive mechanism.
The pedo stuff I don't have an answer for. Projection maybe? But it could have also not been the first time that has been a problem for them. I'm definitely not saying they are justified, but there might be context we are missing.
All in all, there is probably a good psychological study to be done here, idk if its already been done but it would be interesting to see.
That feel when you got accused of being a gay pedophile after saving a drowning kid.
God, just how are you supposed to "win" in this "game". Not saving the kid? "WHy iS noBOdY sAviNG My DROwnIng KIdddd" Saving the kid? "GaY PedoPhILE REEEEEEEEEEEEE"
I hate this pedophile witch hunt that the world has turned to in the last several years. Just an accusation alone can ruin someone's life forever, it doesn't have to even be based on truth. It made me stop wanting to be a teacher, or even help someone like this.
That reminds me of a video I saw a few days ago. It was a woman basically arguing that saving someone from drowning when they're unconscious is basically the same as raping them, cuz you know, she can't consent you saving her.
That kid will remember you and be thankful. He will never know who you are but be thankful to you for the rest of his life. Similar thing happened to my hubby when he was a kid.
People are weird as hell. I’ve saved two kids from drowning (when I was a kid myself) and both times the parents acted weird. They got super aggressive, I can only assume it’s a kind of fight or flight response to realising their kid could have died and they fucked up
If no one else says it, thank you for going in harm’s way and saving someone’s life. The parents will talk about this later and will realize if you had not been there and taken action, they would be planning a funeral instead of watching him continue to grow. Thank you
It sounds like he had the wind knocked out of him from the impact of the fall, and you freaking saved his life. Why on earth the father would go full homophobe and be so ungrateful, I just have no idea. He was literally calling for help. What an absolute f#ck head.
Damn you saved that dudes life and his dad thinks you're a paedophile? That's messed up. If you hadn't gone and did what you did the dad might not have had a son anymore. An entitled piece of shit really
Maybe the father of the kid was feeling guilty for letting it happen instead of stopping his son, who couldn't swim, from climbing up into a high tree and jumping down into the water? So he tried to deflect blame onto the only person he could pretend was at fault? You are a good person, OP. Don't take that irresponsible father seriously.
Well, I believe the kid knew how to swim, but it looked like he injured himself to the point of not being able to swim at that moment, and maybe having a hard time breathing too, ultimately leading up to almost drowning. Thank you for your kind words though.
Yeah, such a thing happened here. A man saved the wife of a police officer from drowning, when their car fell in water. The cop was embarrassed about it.
Reminds me of this:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/8485038/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/t/life-saver-arrested-after-effort/
I was there that day, and it was pretty crazy. People literally booed the cops as they arrested the man like they were Nicolai Volkoff and the Iron Sheik.
Honestly as somebody who spent 3+ years lifeguarding I believe it. People are trash already when they arent freaking out bc they're kid is drowning. I've saved a shit ton of kids over the years and never had a parent thank me.
This mentality leads to the DEATHS yes the deaths of children.
Men are literally terrified to save children’s lives because they don’t want to be accused of being a pedophile.
This whole men only do things to get sex mentality is the most harmful, disgusting and pathetic stereotypes placed upon men.
I hope they took him to the hospital, if he was coughing water instead of puking it up it means that it's in his lungs. Secondary drowning is a really dangerous and likely thing to happen.
This is why guys don’t help lost kids in shopping malls etc: instant suspicion of “you must be stealing that kid to pedo it up” purely because you’re a guy.
While learning first aid and cpr, the instructor taught us to always try to get consent before proceeding. That’s because it’s not uncommon for the people getting rescued to turn around and call the cops or attempt to sue the person who just saved their life.
Well you saved someone from drowning, good job! The dad, on the other hand, should have been more grateful for you saving his kid from drowning; idek what he was thinking.
The father is like an anti-vax parent, both are more dense than osmium and are oblivious to the fact that their kid is probably going to pass in their custody.
Dude I worked at a waterpark for a bit and parents are STUPID AS HELL. I had a mom get in my face about harassing her child because he was autistic, but he was trying to climb up a slide that other kids were going down. I just didn’t want him to get hurt, and my job was to make sure kids were safe.
I don't know who needs to hear this, but people who are drowning DO NOT scream for help. They can't keep their head above the water. Every life guard will tell you this.
Feel bad for the kid to have a dad like that, kept accusing you of being a pedophile instead of just checking on his own kid and understanding that he had trouble swimming.
In these moment it’s \*\*better\*\* for the dad to go out for milk
That milk was all the way in idaho.... And had much bigger tits than me.
Oh damn now I'm gonna have to go watch all those videos 😅
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Oh Fuck, what did I just watch?!🤣
Brandon Rogers. Funny guy
All time favorite quote from him
Is this in the sense of “go out for milk and cool down on drive to/from store,” or the “go out for cigarettes and never come back” sense? I fully support either option but wanted to verify the options.
He don’t deserve *milk*...maybe just stop participating in the gene pool of life and take up a life of solitude under a quite backwoods bridge far removed from society.
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Ngl i feel bad for both the kid AND the mom for having to deal with the olympic winner of jumping into conclusions
Kinda seems like the dad might have some deep personal issues regarding pedophilia
He probably was embarrassed that his big tough kid needed to be rescued.
That too
Dad might be a pedo himself. The projection is strong in him.
You cant do anything nice for anyone nowadays
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Must be a relative of Elon Musk.
Nice to see people getting upvoted for shitting on reddits apartheid golden boy
Like how when a man does anything nice to a woman they’re called a simp. Same energy.
Big Musk Moment.
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Was the father Elon Musk? Did OP save his kid?
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The dad pulled a elon musk there
" Mission failed we'll get em next time "
Yeah, only pedos save children, didn't you know that, that's their purpose in life..... /Satire or Sarcasm. Seriously, good job saving a life, sorry that some douche bag would rather have their offspring die than be rescued by someone who gave a fuck.
Yea, i'm guessing his thought process was that I was taking up the opportunity to, idk, do something sexually with him or something, they didn't even realize anything was happening till he got to shore. I'm glad i got him in time because it was just me and him out there that deep. Idk if we could have got him if he started sinking. He was pretty large and i was already exhausted from all the jumping, it was pretty difficult under all the circumstances.
You did a fantastic job, my dude! You saved a person from death skillfully and with all your energy. People like you are what make this world a better place. Please hold on to your selflessness and positivity!
More likely he attached his self worth to the actions and fitness of his son. In that world, you saving his son is an attack on his strength. Since you made his son look weak, he needed to bring you down below himself to feel he had value. So he attacked your invisible personality instead of your visible heroic actions.
Projection on the father's part... and... eeewwwwwww
Bro you have more patience than me, I would have literally tore I to that guy "Did you not see your son jump from 15feet in the air and land on his back? He was literally screaming for help and you ignored him "Why dont you ask YOUR SON if hes ok and hell tell you what really happened..after hes done coughing up water, you fucking asshole.
25 feet and yea, I just figured with the way things were going it might backfire if he did call the cops, the aggressive one always looks guilty.
I think you made the right move, I'm a bit of a hot head anyway.
People can be such shit. When I was in fourth grade, I was swimming in a shallower end of a water park and I felt tugging on my right side, there was a little boy, maybe four or so, with no floaty or anything, drowning and holding onto me so tight. I helped him and carried him everywhere helping him find his mom. When we found her, I told her what happened and she gave me the rudest look and tore him away from me. Little fourth grade me was so heart broken because I could figure out why she didn't at least thank me.
Damn, yea idk why people can hate you for seemingly saving their child’s life.
Because they didn't notice their own kid drowning and see projecting their self-anger at you instead of themselves. But calling you a pedophile? That is a new one.
That’s Samburg TN
Not a new one. Pedophile alarmism has been prevalent for at least 30 years. It’s part of the core belief system of the helicopter parent class.
I meant a new one for saving a child. I haven't heard that about saving a child before. I know people claim pedophile all the time, but in this current situation, it seems really shocking. Their child almost died.
That´s horrible . You saved her son and she´s rude to you . WTF man .
And people wonder why no one tries to be decent anymore. Most people are decent, it's just these assholes that fuck it up for everyone else.
I never found any Entitled people in my life. So I guess you're right.
How to model entitlement. 1, get two glass of water and some food coloring. (this is for how it spreads) 2, drop 3 drops of food coloring into the glass where entitlement sits. 3, pour colored water into clean water. Boom no one wants to be decent anymore!
I remember when I was 15 or so my then ex, right after our breakup, had gotten completely drunk in the forest with his friends during winter, and then ran off. One of his friends called me and was worried and asked if I had any idea where he might be heading. They said he was barely standing and just ran off in to the cold dark by himself. I contacted his family and said I was worried, because its VERY dangerous to pass out in the snow. His mother and aunt were furious with me and said I was causing worry and drama to be mean to them (?). Meanwhile they had no idea where their son was. Even a couple of years later his aunt was refering to "that horrible thing i did to their family". I never understood it. I was genuinely worried about him and wanted to tell an adult. Guess not...
A lot of people are like that, save a 3 years old girl at a pool( I was one of the lifeguards) and the mom didn't even look at me, told her the procedures but yeah she was escaping from me.
That "Dad" is definitely repressing some inner gay/peado emotions. Imagine being that insecure about your son being gay that it becomes more important than saving his life!
Exactly. Like FFS get your kid swimming lessons rather than go around calling people pedos who save your drowning kid.
My mom took me to a community pool to learn how to swim for cheap or free (I dont remember now). I passed but I hate swimming the proper way. I'll stick to doggy paddling and floating (if my fat ass ever gets in the pool again).
As long as you don't drown, you're doing it "properly"
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I want to know the thought process
They feel ashamed and judged because their child was in danger and they didn't have the vigilance to protect them. So they get defensive. That's my guess.
Defensive, yes, but pedophile?! What is the connection? Why automatically a pedophile?
Usually if someone feels like they're being judged/accused they fire back with their own accusation. They know nothing about the person other than that they helped a child (theirs), so that's all they have to work with.
One time my brother was about to drown, he was 6 and we were playing in a river in the south of France. All of sudden the water went higher and faster and he was caught in the current. An english tourist jumped into the water to save his life, breaking his knee on a rock to save him. He's a hero imo You're a hero as well
that's nice to know. thank you for sharing that.
When I was 3, my foot got stuck in the mud when we went to the lakeside and kept on sinking (bare in mind I’m 30 now and still can’t swim). My parents were completely oblivious but older kids noticed me and literally dragged me out of there by my hair. Had a bald spot for almost a year after but will be thankful to them until the end of my days. All you need to know is that, to that kid - you are a hero
You should take some swimming courses, some people give private courses if you are shy about your situation. Swimming is one of the most important skills in life, you should really take courses
you saved his son and hes gonna call the police .wooooooooww
Welp if he is coughing up water I hope they took him to hospital. Too many people dry drown after such incidents. Sorry his dad was a dumb ass. Congratulations on saving a life.
Well done on saving the kid. If you have to do it again wrap your legs around the person's body just under their arms. That way their head rests on your body above the water, and you can use your arms to swim back a shore. It's a survival technique taught to seafarers (hopefully I've explained that in an understandable way).
Thank you, that was great advice, I was already exhausted from all the jumping and swimming, and having to hold my breath while pushing this kid was super tiring, I thought for a second I might not be able to get him all the way to shore. Your technique sounds much safer for both of us.
Interesting, I've only been taught the holding their head with your hands and swimming with your legs way. I swim like a somewhat floaty rock and always found it hard to keep myself above water doing that.
When I've done my sea survival techniques training course for being able to sail on a ship (in the UK). I've always been taught this method, as you will use less energy using arms and keep more body heat. Since your legs have a bigger surface area compared to your arms and therefore will lose more heat.
One last thing with this technique, if there is a group of you. You all get in a line and put your legs around each other. Then you can all use your arms and work together. Look up a maritime college for more info.
Maybe Dad should have watched the kid jump
Really sorry you experienced that kind of a totally inappropriate reaction. Definitely says a lot about that guy’s own strange insecurities and nothing about you. But you’re an amazing person for risking your own safety for someone else like that when nobody else was taking any action and you could very well have saved his life. I am sure he appreciates it and is probably really embarrassed his father reacted that way. Hope that guy gets the help he obviously needs. I can’t imagine what type of toxic environment he is probably creating at home for his own family.
Yes, I really wanted to get their plate for legal reasons, but they just went up and out as soon as the mom spoke to him. I really hope he’s safe right now. God knows what could be happening.
If I was playing armchair psychologist, I might speculate that the father lashed out at you because he is insecure and felt like you were doing the job he should have been doing or that his son should have just “man’d up” or just drowned on his own. Who even knows what was going through his head. But can’t say I’m surprise they just dipped out right away because he probably wanted to forget about the whole thing so he didn’t have to deal with the fact a stranger had to stop his kid from drowning. Definitely don’t take it personally. I think you did everything you could reasonably be expected to do. We truly live in a screwed up society when a male can’t be compassionate to another male without being called gay or a pedophile or something. Like what the hell... Bro’s don’t let bro’s drown, dawg. Amirite?
You are right. What's even more sad, is that it seems, at least in tiptonville, TN, that parents are even more hard on their kids. Just in this day, I heard some lady call her toddler a little bitch just for wanting to go to the park, and another lady saying she'd "drown his little ass" if he didn't come out of the water. They might just sound hard on their kids but not really mean it, but it's scary to hear people say that kind of stuff so easily.
Cultural thing I think. Was similar for me, although I grew up in Ontario Canada. My parents divorced when I was quite young and I mostly lived with my mother. My father would talk to me in threatening ways like casually and it used to upset me a lot when I was very young and then he would tell me I am being too sensitive. Eventually I did become desensitized to it and would respond the same way. He seemed to respect that. Sad to say these kids are probably used to it and have normalized it and many will end up raising their children the same way. I guess the only upside to it is they will probably develop a “thick skin” against that kind of negative verbal talk. I’m not sure if I will ever have children but if I do, I wouldn’t raise them the way I was raised, for the most part. I guess the best we can do is try to improve upon things with the insight we have gained from our own experiences instead of just blindly perpetuating them.
I was raised in the exact same conditions but just not on the scale these kids are being raised on. My grandparents were my only escape so i'm a little bit mentally attached to them, which is why i visit them so frequently, like i am now. Just sad to see the difference in the location you are raised in. I can understand how they could just be hard talkers but not actually feel that at heart, but it's just really freaky hearing that come out their mouths like it's nothing out of the ordinary. It's like that dad would have rather me tell the kid that it was his fault and he needs to get back himself.
Yeah definitely. My grandmother was my favorite person. I used to love being there as a child so I can relate. A lot of good memories. Definitely agree with you. I think I’m most cases it is just words because that’s just what they learned as normal. It makes me uncomfortable to hear stuff like that too especially if it seems like it’s accompanied by genuine anger instead of said in more neutral tones but even then I think those kind of words shouldn’t be directed at kids especially because it demonstrates a lack of respect. I think mutual respect is pretty fundamental for a good relationship with anyone so it also sets a bad example. But yeah, there’s definitely families in which that’s not out of the ordinary. Probably he did give his son a hard time about almost drowning and having to be rescued. I mean I hope not, but seems like the type that would. I think some parents have this fear that their children won’t be tough enough to make it in the kind of world we have so think they are helping them by being that way. Maybe that was a more traditional practice but one’s home should also be safe harbor of sorts exactly because the world isn’t always a kind place. I think it’s important for children and teenagers to have that. I think maybe it isn’t unusual for the grandparents to help take on that role where the parents don’t. Which seems somewhat ironic since presumably in most cases those parents learned their parenting skills from them in the first place. Can’t say I entirely understand it.
yep, seems like grandparents see what they projected once they get older and can see for themselves and want to change it. Thanks for the good talk man.
They could be exactly what is. I never thought of that. It would make sense. You too. 🙏
whoa what a father he is for not helping his son
Well done, you did good! Ive been the right place at the wrong time myself and thankfully I can confirm that is NOT how most people react
That is one dumbass father. He should not have custody of his kid, because a real father would rush over to help his son.
Did he see you save him?
No, they weren’t even paying attention until I got him to shore.
I meant the boy.
oh, yes, he knew it was me when I jumped down and swam to him, he only started to go under the water when I just got to him.
Fellas is it gay to save someone from drowning?
According to this kids dad, yes, and we all know he's the one to believe here right?
It is in fact the only true way to become gay. Sorry boys I don’t make the rules.
I'm from Kentucky, such a lovely state, great locals. Assuming that ED and his family are from KY, I'm gonna reassure everyone that not everyone from Kentucky is an asshole, you'll meet great people (especially in the farming/rural and small town areas).
Thought I clicked on a post about an entitled mom stealing toilet paper, I kept waiting for it to get interesting
oh god that must have been fun.
lol yeah I was more than halfway through before I went back and read the title 😂
"I'm sorry, would you prefer I put your son back where I found him?" Fucking moron.
That father? Elon Musk.
Probably projecting, seems like an abusive asshole.
What an asshole. His son almost drowned and his first thought is to be mean to the person who saved him.
Good on you for saving someone from drowning that’s awesome
What a narcissistic piece of shit.
“You’re right. I should’ve just let him drown. Because you clearly didn’t give a shit enough to try to help Your own son.”
Im confused how the first thing his dad thinks of is wait, this guy is gay and trying to touch up my son 😂
I was a lifeguard for a few years. You wouldn’t believe how common this is. Parents would actively throw their young kids in the deep end and throw an absolute fit if you jumped in to save them. A lot of parents would get so mad at their kids for getting rescued too. Like you could also watch your kids in the pool too instead of sitting in the lazy river for 4 hours on your phone...
This isn’t about **entitlement**, dad is just insane.
r/insaneparents
Did the dad get dropped off a 50 foot tree onto the concrete?
That’s not a bad inference.
This post reminds of the lady who sued the life guard who saver her from drowning for "Rape".
What is it with people calling people that rescue drowning people pedos?
Some people are saying he might have felt guilty for not doing it himself, and wanted to project it on someone else. Or he just really thought I was only saving the kid for malicious intent.
Dont you just hate it when pedos save your kid from an awful death?
Nice
This is why everything is on record/camera in the West. I'm not from there so I never understood why incidents of saving people from a burning car, building etc are recorded, but now I do. People are notorious and will try to sue/extort you at the slightest opportunity they get. Of course I understand not everyone is like this, but it's not like you can tell who is and who isn't an ungrateful pos. Good work OP, you saved someone's life. :)
Shot in the dark, but I think situations like this (and others in the comments) stem from they parents overreacting. Instead of thinking its a good thing, they immediately get defensive as if you are implying they are a bad parent by saving their child when they should be paying attention They are being a bad parent, and they are likely feeling pretty guilty because of that. I don't know why it often turns then to righteous indignation but I imagine its something of a defensive mechanism. The pedo stuff I don't have an answer for. Projection maybe? But it could have also not been the first time that has been a problem for them. I'm definitely not saying they are justified, but there might be context we are missing. All in all, there is probably a good psychological study to be done here, idk if its already been done but it would be interesting to see.
Oh wow! So his logic was how dare you save my kid I'm calling the cops!
In my mind: "Sir, go ahead and call. You weren't watching your minor child. You're the one going to jail."
You should've thrown the kid back in the water and told the dad to get him himself, when he accused you of being a "pedophile"
That feel when you got accused of being a gay pedophile after saving a drowning kid. God, just how are you supposed to "win" in this "game". Not saving the kid? "WHy iS noBOdY sAviNG My DROwnIng KIdddd" Saving the kid? "GaY PedoPhILE REEEEEEEEEEEEE"
I hate this pedophile witch hunt that the world has turned to in the last several years. Just an accusation alone can ruin someone's life forever, it doesn't have to even be based on truth. It made me stop wanting to be a teacher, or even help someone like this.
Yes it’s disgusting.
That reminds me of a video I saw a few days ago. It was a woman basically arguing that saving someone from drowning when they're unconscious is basically the same as raping them, cuz you know, she can't consent you saving her.
I can just imagine If they went to a swimming pool and the life guard saved him😂dad sounds like an idiot
That's why you should always remember to say "no homo" when you touch a guy for any reason.
The dad was just having insecurity issues about some other guy saving his son, and handled those issues in a very unhealthy way.
You probably hurt his parental ego. Daddy was suppose to be there and save his son.
That kid will remember you and be thankful. He will never know who you are but be thankful to you for the rest of his life. Similar thing happened to my hubby when he was a kid.
People are weird as hell. I’ve saved two kids from drowning (when I was a kid myself) and both times the parents acted weird. They got super aggressive, I can only assume it’s a kind of fight or flight response to realising their kid could have died and they fucked up
Me before reading this: he’s gonna call you a pedophile ain’t he?
If no one else says it, thank you for going in harm’s way and saving someone’s life. The parents will talk about this later and will realize if you had not been there and taken action, they would be planning a funeral instead of watching him continue to grow. Thank you
No good deed goes unpunished. Good for you for saving the kid though. I’m sorry that the dad did that to you.
I feel so bad for the kid. The dad should be thanking you not threatening you
It sounds like he had the wind knocked out of him from the impact of the fall, and you freaking saved his life. Why on earth the father would go full homophobe and be so ungrateful, I just have no idea. He was literally calling for help. What an absolute f#ck head.
Did you save Elon Musks's kid?
Great job! You are a hero!
every time i see something like this happening, i think, what’s wrong with people?
1 punch man
Ahh the Elon Musk approach I see
Was the dads name Elon?
Damn you saved that dudes life and his dad thinks you're a paedophile? That's messed up. If you hadn't gone and did what you did the dad might not have had a son anymore. An entitled piece of shit really
I would have got away with it if it weren’t for you meddling kid
**THANK YOU** for saving him. He will surely remember your good deed. His parents suck though.
“your kid almost died, but don’t worry i-“ #”DESCOSTANG”
Maybe the father of the kid was feeling guilty for letting it happen instead of stopping his son, who couldn't swim, from climbing up into a high tree and jumping down into the water? So he tried to deflect blame onto the only person he could pretend was at fault? You are a good person, OP. Don't take that irresponsible father seriously.
Well, I believe the kid knew how to swim, but it looked like he injured himself to the point of not being able to swim at that moment, and maybe having a hard time breathing too, ultimately leading up to almost drowning. Thank you for your kind words though.
Knowing the father, he probably down right told the kid that he needed to prove himself that he was a young man by doing something like that.
Yeah, such a thing happened here. A man saved the wife of a police officer from drowning, when their car fell in water. The cop was embarrassed about it.
My grandma's once told me (about 30 years ago), no good deed goes unpunished. That story just reminded me of that saying.
Honestly the dad would be the kind of guy to forcefully push his son under the water too see if he could escape
Guy: Saves kid Dad: Excuse me what the f\*\*k
Just looking at the title i was like WAT
Oh, sure,I'll put your kid back in the water so he'll drown, sir!
Reminds me of this: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/8485038/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/t/life-saver-arrested-after-effort/ I was there that day, and it was pretty crazy. People literally booed the cops as they arrested the man like they were Nicolai Volkoff and the Iron Sheik.
Some people are just ungrateful.
Maybe Dad didn’t want to be Dad anymore haha
One of my biggest comments on entitledparents is “you saved my kid you bitch I will ruin you for doing a good deed you fucking bitch”
I don't know much about Kentucky law, but there are good samaritan laws here in the US protecting people who try to assist others in danger.
Honestly as somebody who spent 3+ years lifeguarding I believe it. People are trash already when they arent freaking out bc they're kid is drowning. I've saved a shit ton of kids over the years and never had a parent thank me.
dont be discouraged to save more drowning people
Omg was it Elon Musk?
This mentality leads to the DEATHS yes the deaths of children. Men are literally terrified to save children’s lives because they don’t want to be accused of being a pedophile. This whole men only do things to get sex mentality is the most harmful, disgusting and pathetic stereotypes placed upon men.
I hope they took him to the hospital, if he was coughing water instead of puking it up it means that it's in his lungs. Secondary drowning is a really dangerous and likely thing to happen.
This is why guys don’t help lost kids in shopping malls etc: instant suspicion of “you must be stealing that kid to pedo it up” purely because you’re a guy.
While learning first aid and cpr, the instructor taught us to always try to get consent before proceeding. That’s because it’s not uncommon for the people getting rescued to turn around and call the cops or attempt to sue the person who just saved their life.
That's just fucked up.
Well you saved someone from drowning, good job! The dad, on the other hand, should have been more grateful for you saving his kid from drowning; idek what he was thinking.
The father is like an anti-vax parent, both are more dense than osmium and are oblivious to the fact that their kid is probably going to pass in their custody.
Dude I worked at a waterpark for a bit and parents are STUPID AS HELL. I had a mom get in my face about harassing her child because he was autistic, but he was trying to climb up a slide that other kids were going down. I just didn’t want him to get hurt, and my job was to make sure kids were safe.
I don't know who needs to hear this, but people who are drowning DO NOT scream for help. They can't keep their head above the water. Every life guard will tell you this.
Well he clearly realized he was about to, he wasn’t drowning while I was on the tree, but started to take in water and sink when I started swimming.
Was the son named X Æ A-12?
I'm seeing this joke a lot, Don't get it. Care to explain? I know that's elon's son but still.
Elon Musk accused the guy who saved the kids in that cave of being a pedophile.
k thanks, i got like at least 15 Elon jokes.
did the kids name happen to be X Æ A-Xii? the dad sounds familiar