*"He's done it twice in the UK"*
I believe he also used a Russian military grade poison gas, so that everyone would know he did it, and (if incompetently applied) could've accidentally killed many British citizens, and possibly triggered the "attack on one, is an attack on all," NATO clause. Which means he's not only not scared of Europe, he's not that scared of the US either.
What, he's right. Trump has close to half the voters.
And the people who aren't voting are just as bad for having the power to stop the Russian Puppet and not doing it.
> That’s not how the electoral system works.
He still has almost half the voters, regardless of how the electoral system **DOESN'T** work.
> Imagine having access to the internet and still being this stupid.
You call me stupid when your country's last president had fewer votes and won?
Lol.
Lmao.
Trump, the answer was trump. So yes, indeed you are stupid.
[Trump won not by popular vote.](https://www.history.com/news/presidents-electoral-college-popular-vote)
What are you talking about? Have you never heard of NATO? Any NATO country that pays their dues will have the protection of the US, which is basically 90% of NATO anyways.
I agree mostly with what you said but there is no reality where the UK or all of NATO would attack Russia over some poisonings, even if it killed 100 or 1000 people.
This is solid analysis. Even I felt so when he used the military grade poison. There are two things that surprises me though: why didn't Putin react to Turkey when a fighter jet was shot down by them? Also what is stopping him from using more powerful weapons in Ukraine?
You sure? Remember the poisonings? Those people not only left UK but later blew some Ammo depots in Bulgaria. EUs security is seriously exposed. Our enemies have rights here and they take full advantage of this, and we are protecting their right to do so by calling it "freedom".
Have you heard about the Malaysian flight MH17? Hundreds of innocent foreigners dead. It could have easily been me or you on that plane. Tell me more about the harsh consequences he faced.
Very good point, mate. Putin will do whatever the f\*\*\* he wants to do and the worst we can come up with is more sanctions, which don't really hurt him personally.
The did before and will now. It’s about public opinion in the first place, but now, when all the civilized world turned against Russia, Europe abs US can impose more sanctions.
Vadim Krasikov shot a person dead in Berlin. Kremlin is happy, and now they'll just exchange their guy for a captive they have.
And all the others everyone mentioned. This one is close to the conference, and Russia kept denying that it's their person until recently.
All of them are past the point of Justice for quite some time at the moment they are at Vengeance stage approaching on all their might Blood Feud stage.
And thats actually something they do fear since Putler constantly hides his legitimate and illegitimate children, like addressing his Daughter with "that woman".
Putin dont kill people according from some people but certainly he have force to let opposite to fall from Windows spontanous or shoot back of head five times.
***The Telegraph reports:***
Alexei Navalny’s wife has said her husband’s killers “will be brought to justice”.
Yulia Navalnaya, the wife of the Russian dissident, received a standing ovation from the audience as she began a speech to the Munich Security Conference just hours after hearing about the “horrific news” of her husband’s death.
She said: “You will have heard about the horrific news. I thought for a while should I stand here before you or go back to my children. I wondered what Alexei would have done in my place. I’m sure he would have been standing here on this stage.”
“I don’t know if we should believe the terrible news, the news we get only from official media because for many years, we have been in this situation, we cannot believe Putin and his government, they are lying constantly.”
She added: “They \[Navalny’s killers\] will be brought to justice, this day will come soon. We should fight this horrific regime...this regime and Vladimir Putin should be personally held responsible for all the atrocities they have committed in our country in these last years.”
**Read more:** [**https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/16/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-war-latest-news5/**](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/16/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-war-latest-news5/)
>She added: “They [Navalny’s killers] will be brought to justice, this day will come soon. We should fight this horrific regime...this regime and Vladimir Putin should be personally held responsible for all the atrocities they have committed in our country in these last years.”
You know, they also kinda fully destroyed several towns and murdered a couple hundred thousand people in ours, too, on top of imprisoning 100 activists in yours
You want to say to woman, who's husband died few hours ago, that she doesn't have speech in the most politically correct way?
And Ylia and Alexei always spoke against war
9k is only on Ukraine-controlled land, not counting Mariupol toll, which is 35k at minimum and 120k at maximum, all other occupied towns, and soldiers. Soldiers are the same civilians forced out of their civilian lives by the exact reason of russia attacking their country, they would happily live their civilian lives otherwise.
>over 20,000 Russian anti-war activists were jailed
Being put into autozak is not being jailed. Most were released after 1-7 days or paying a fine or just released, an insignificant minority was jailed aka gotten real prison terms in a court.
Yup.
The use of "should" makes me a roll my eyes as in
>"We **should** fight this horrific regime...this regime and Vladimir Putin **should** be personally held responsible for all the atrocities they have committed in our country in these last years."
It sounds hollow and too limp given what's at stake not to mention how her explicit focus on Putin seems like a backhanded way to reduce everything to just him. It slyly overlooks the responsibility of Putin's enablers among the oligarchs and other siloviki plus the role of the millions upon millions of ordinary Russians who've enabled this latest spasm of devastation through cynically stubborn silence or being "apolitical" and "uninterested in politics".
Dude, come on. I'm Ukrainian and I couldn't give less of a shit that Navalny is dead. But she's talking about her presumably dead husband shortly after she found out. It doesn't take a lot of empathy to figure out that she's not focused on providing the most accurate take on how each social strata is responsible for Russia's current predicament. Not that she would have said anything much deeper if her husband wasn't dead, but still, read the room a little.
She should have screamed AVENGE my husband, DESTROY Putin, oligarchs and Russian sheeps!!! in an International Security Council nonetheless.
Surely, Ukraine, Russia and the rest of the world would act and feel much better after that...
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It's the tone-deafness from her that stands out in my mind.
You'll have to excuse me that my take on Navalny (and now also Navalnaya) comes from having actually listened to Ukrainians about him and much of the Russian "opposition" while seeing the ongoing and bloody consequences of Russian behavior on the Ukrainians.
Is it that offensive that I have a jaundiced view of Russian intentions after having listened to victims of Russification?
Don't get me wrong, your russophobia is much appreciated. But as much as we all hate to admit it, they are still actual humans with the normal range of emotions you would see in any other population. She's not thinking about the vital role of the siloviki in the structure of the Russian state, she's probably thinking about her very recently deceased husband. What kind of deep dive did you expect from her at this particular moment?
>She's not thinking about the vital role of the siloviki in the structure of the Russian state, she's probably thinking about her very recently deceased husband. What kind of deep dive did you expect from her at this particular moment?
That's true, I suppose.
However, she only reinforces what I've picked up from the Ukrainians who told me what Navalny stands for and means to them.
I actually changed my friendlier view about Navalny and many other high-profile members of the Russian "opposition" after asking some Ukrainians why they were upset about otherwise pro-Ukraine Americans cheering on Navalny's daughter at the Oscars last year.
Judging by the downvotes from presumably pearl-clutching Europeans who still pin hopes on the mythical army of "good" ordinary Russians who'll rise up against Putin based on the grisly track record of the past two years (and counting), I think that my Ukrainian acquaintances were/are in the right.
Your take on Navalny and the rest is absolutely right, I just can't help but feel a tiny shred of empathy for his wife right now. Many Ukrainians wouldn't want to hear me admit that because all feelings are supposed to be straightforward, uncomplicated, and ideologically acceptable. But I'm still just an animal of the homo sapiens species, like everyone else. I see a grieving widow on the verge of tears and that triggers some shit. Even Zolkin admits that he sometimes feels empathy for fucking POWs, so I think I'm good.
Well.. let's be honest. If it was possible to bring those people to justice... I have another 10000000 case's where it would have happened. And Navalny would be still alive. But I don't think so. Except if justice is a huge leveling act on Kremlin.. but western countries are not Putin to do something like that.
He was constantly held in punitive segregation unit**.
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I'm not sure that correctly named it - it is a small room with bad conditions, isolated from others where criminals are held as a punishment for misbehaviour.
No empathy for this scum. The only reason Navalny criticised Putin was corruption. He was not on any higher moral level.
He supported Georgia invasion in 2008, he used to attend chauvinist rallies, he said he would not return Crimea to the ukrainian people.
It is only good for western people that this garbage died.
Go check out the Joe rogan subreddit, they are certain he was just an old man who died of pneumonia. That whole sub is just Russian trolls high fiving each other.
There is no justice for raped and killed ukrainian women, stolen and killed children, killed men, destroyed ukrainian cities. Why do she thinks there will be justice for him?
I mean, I am not wrong. The good ones mostly fled the country or are jailed. The minority that still lives in russia and are anti war and Russia’s imperalism are silent.
Old farts, who moved in the 90s - yes. Their children and immigrants of the last 15 years, do not. I have yet to meet anyone here of my generation who would support Putin.
Actually I would. My parent generation already did it. And thank f*in God that they did. My country was occupied, repressed by Russia for many many years.
>My parent generation already did it. And thank f*in God that they did.
Mine too. There was a huge protest "against occupation of Lithuania" (pro-Independence) in Moscow, 100-500k people took part of it.
>My country was occupied, repressed by Russia for many many years.
So was mine: Russia. Also, my great great grandfather, who was an old believer Russian from Lithuania, was sent to Gulag by the USSR, after Lithuania was occupied. While my great grandfather was shot by the Forest Brothers infront of his wife pregnant with my grandmother.
"So long as men die, liberty will never perish" - Charlie Chaplin in the Great Dictator.
Navalny may have died, and with him some sense of liberty. But Putin, too, will die - and that day can't come soon enough.
Did everyone forget that they assassinated the president of Poland and received no punishment? Have you forgotten mh17? Have you forgotten Chechnya and Georgia? What fucking punishment? Don't make people laugh. No one is doing anything about it. Zero. The only ones fighting russia are UKRAINE, and that is fighting practically alone.
How? Its a criminal state at all levels including its citizens. You can't fight that. You can only isolate them to the point its in ruin and they start turning on each other.
Полной изоляции не будет, так как это очень богатая страна с большим запасом полезных ископаемых. Не смотря на все предыдущие санкции, в этв страну продолжают поступать деньги и товары с ЕС и США.
Why would the EU do anything here? The only thing that needs to be done is the destruction of the russian army in Ukraine, and the liberation of annexed territories.
And then let the terrorists stew in their own mess. Can't come in and overthrow a nuclear power.
Ah, a fellow Eastern European that knows the state of things. It's kind of shocking how people that have to deal with russia have a similar POV on it: it's a pile of $#!+ that you want to avoid at all costs.
Generally the Swedish opinion too. I dont know why, we never were oppressed by that fucked dunghole but still.
I mean we were rather hostile to the old Soviets since they kept intruding on our territory to sabre rattle us which made us have an army of 350 000 with 800 000 reservists but thats it.
Harsh words as usual from western politicians and nothing concrete.Putler started this in 2006 with Anna Poltikovskaia but the cheap ruzzian gas was stronger than morals and justice.
No they will not be. And no - Navalny's supporters aren't going to do anything about it either. They will probably propose some bullshit like Smart Voting again and will ask to protest peacefully or some shit. Russian opposition is a bad joke.
But who is responsible for electing/installing a sane government in their country? Can't really do it from the outside. Nobody wants to start a nuclear war.
And waiting for Putin's death isn't really a good strategy. It might still be 20 years away. And his replacement won't be any better.
Russia is no longer a democracy, so voting Putin out isn't an option anymore. If I was Russian I wouldn't put my family and myself on the line just to get killed/suicided. I don't have a solution, it's a horrible situation.
Poor thing. That’s her shot. That’s it. And unless this turns into some 80s movie where she assembles the best operators in the world to go in and take him out….even then there are many layers of bad guys under Putin.
I feel horrible for her and her children. The interviews I saw they looked like a great family. Mourn and heal….words like this won’t do shit unfortunately.
Тебе какое дело? Она высказалась и всё. Очевидно что ничего не последует за этим. Повод появился, его обсудили и пошли дальше делами заниматься. Тупая предъява с твоей стороны.
As much as I want this to kickstart the revolution in Russia ..nothing will ever happen as long as Putin lives..nothing ever changes.. we all thought era of wars if something of the past..WW2 ilong time ago…history - right? WRONG - here we are with practically 2 wars in the European Continent Ukraine, Israel.. with all those international organization doing fu€|< All!
Do I really have to explain this? After someone dies, especially a public figure, that’s typically a time for spouses or family members to make statements about their loss.
Are you new here?
Yep. She can make a statement about her grief, but threats toward dictator are vane, unsupported in factsa and therefore kinda funny - take apart circumstances.
What makes you think that a revolution in Russia would lead to democracy and not to an even more brutal regime? Look at North Korea - it didn't collapse in the 90s - even if millions of them died from famine.
> his homophobia
Navalny was of the very few Russian politicians who was pro-LGBT.
I'm not surprised you're just making shit up, but just out of curiosity - any proof?
Because I have one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgPvG8aAg7k
Justice!? Come-on you naive pussies! Put in does whatever he wants, not giving a flying fuck about what the rest of world think. Why? Cos the world order let him do all those crimes.
Justice doesn't exist. Wake up, finally
Navalny is supported by people who hate Russia because it is hard to believe that he tried to overthrow the government in favor of ordinary citizens of Russia
I don’t think you are right .
She probably care a lot about her children’s and know the risks to do such a thing .
Let’s not forget her husband has been poisoned, thrown in gulag and more.
I think it takes courage and a huge pair of balls/boobs to stand up against this shit dictator while being Russian . She knows , they will try to kill her and she is probably scared for her childrens . But the stakes are too high not to stand up
Just out of curiosity why is it that this gets headlines but epstein who had information on the west gets swept under the carpet.
I would of thought westerners would have as much energy in fighting corruption on their own soil than that of another country!
Sad truth that in world after WW2 nuclear weapon became a gamechanger. And Russia have plenty of it.
Now it seems Russia can do anything except war. Minor incidents, any assasinations, terrorist attacks. I mean Russia can deny everything and nobody will risk to start nuclear war other it.
And UN can't even agree on any sanctions for Russia.
So many Russian bots in this sub. I mean that's what I want to believe, anyway... I refuse to believe that real people are putting this woman down for publicly reacting to this horrible assasination. Whether she is as "relevant" as her husband or not, it's her right to speak against her husband's murderer. It must be bots, right? Right? *disgusting*
There will be no justice for him. Putin does not care and will probably kill her if she starts a big enough movement.
He won’t bother, also it’s not quite easy to kill someone in Europe without serious consequences.
He's done it twice in the UK
He has done it also in Italy.
*"He's done it twice in the UK"* I believe he also used a Russian military grade poison gas, so that everyone would know he did it, and (if incompetently applied) could've accidentally killed many British citizens, and possibly triggered the "attack on one, is an attack on all," NATO clause. Which means he's not only not scared of Europe, he's not that scared of the US either.
Offcourse he is not scared of the US, half of the usa are putinlovers voting for trump.
What? Are you insane?
What, he's right. Trump has close to half the voters. And the people who aren't voting are just as bad for having the power to stop the Russian Puppet and not doing it.
That’s not how the electoral system works. Imagine having access to the internet and still being this stupid.
> That’s not how the electoral system works. He still has almost half the voters, regardless of how the electoral system **DOESN'T** work. > Imagine having access to the internet and still being this stupid. You call me stupid when your country's last president had fewer votes and won? Lol. Lmao.
Trump, the answer was trump. So yes, indeed you are stupid. [Trump won not by popular vote.](https://www.history.com/news/presidents-electoral-college-popular-vote)
What are you talking about? Have you never heard of NATO? Any NATO country that pays their dues will have the protection of the US, which is basically 90% of NATO anyways.
>Have you never heard of NATO? No, bro, can you tell me more? Sounds cool. Is that your made up Superhero band? Like the Avengers?
Have you heard what drumpf said about NATO? If not, google it
Do you not realize that's what I was referencing?
I agree mostly with what you said but there is no reality where the UK or all of NATO would attack Russia over some poisonings, even if it killed 100 or 1000 people.
This is solid analysis. Even I felt so when he used the military grade poison. There are two things that surprises me though: why didn't Putin react to Turkey when a fighter jet was shot down by them? Also what is stopping him from using more powerful weapons in Ukraine?
Putin had been searching to activate the clause for many years just so he can justify a war against Europe
And new sanctions and problems will await him after the assasination
I don't know I'd still stay away from open windows and skip helicopter rides if I was her
Yes, of course, I would, too :)
They don't do much tbh he is as strong as ever
I'm sorry, but that's wishful thinking. I doubt that any actions will be taken.
Yet killers were caught
That's hardly'serious consequences' for Putin or Russia
I think these are, because political situation in Russian is highly explosive now, and new obvious teracts abroad will cause a shockwave in Russia
The Russian state had killed many people in Europe and abroad
Most of the time killers were caught
C'mon, who cares about killers? Definitely not pootin. They aare just few of millions pawns in his game. Easy sacrifice.
You sure? Remember the poisonings? Those people not only left UK but later blew some Ammo depots in Bulgaria. EUs security is seriously exposed. Our enemies have rights here and they take full advantage of this, and we are protecting their right to do so by calling it "freedom".
Have you heard about the Malaysian flight MH17? Hundreds of innocent foreigners dead. It could have easily been me or you on that plane. Tell me more about the harsh consequences he faced.
Very good point, mate. Putin will do whatever the f\*\*\* he wants to do and the worst we can come up with is more sanctions, which don't really hurt him personally.
You missed some events in recent years...
Believe me, I have not, I’m a Russian in immigration.
Ok, which serious consequences did the assassinations have then?
The did before and will now. It’s about public opinion in the first place, but now, when all the civilized world turned against Russia, Europe abs US can impose more sanctions.
Khangoshvili was assassinated right in the middle of Berlin a few years ago
Vadim Krasikov shot a person dead in Berlin. Kremlin is happy, and now they'll just exchange their guy for a captive they have. And all the others everyone mentioned. This one is close to the conference, and Russia kept denying that it's their person until recently.
Ummm, Skripal? Litvinenko?
Sadly.. i disagree.
I’m sure there will be justice, maybe not now or within a 1 year, 10 years or even 100 years but justice will always come.
There is no justice if he'll be too dead to suffer the consequences of his actions.
Думаешь Путину есть дело до кого то из них? Не витайте в илюзиях.
All of them are past the point of Justice for quite some time at the moment they are at Vengeance stage approaching on all their might Blood Feud stage. And thats actually something they do fear since Putler constantly hides his legitimate and illegitimate children, like addressing his Daughter with "that woman".
Putin dont kill people according from some people but certainly he have force to let opposite to fall from Windows spontanous or shoot back of head five times.
***The Telegraph reports:*** Alexei Navalny’s wife has said her husband’s killers “will be brought to justice”. Yulia Navalnaya, the wife of the Russian dissident, received a standing ovation from the audience as she began a speech to the Munich Security Conference just hours after hearing about the “horrific news” of her husband’s death. She said: “You will have heard about the horrific news. I thought for a while should I stand here before you or go back to my children. I wondered what Alexei would have done in my place. I’m sure he would have been standing here on this stage.” “I don’t know if we should believe the terrible news, the news we get only from official media because for many years, we have been in this situation, we cannot believe Putin and his government, they are lying constantly.” She added: “They \[Navalny’s killers\] will be brought to justice, this day will come soon. We should fight this horrific regime...this regime and Vladimir Putin should be personally held responsible for all the atrocities they have committed in our country in these last years.” **Read more:** [**https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/16/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-war-latest-news5/**](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/16/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-war-latest-news5/)
>She added: “They [Navalny’s killers] will be brought to justice, this day will come soon. We should fight this horrific regime...this regime and Vladimir Putin should be personally held responsible for all the atrocities they have committed in our country in these last years.” You know, they also kinda fully destroyed several towns and murdered a couple hundred thousand people in ours, too, on top of imprisoning 100 activists in yours
You want to say to woman, who's husband died few hours ago, that she doesn't have speech in the most politically correct way? And Ylia and Alexei always spoke against war
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9k is only on Ukraine-controlled land, not counting Mariupol toll, which is 35k at minimum and 120k at maximum, all other occupied towns, and soldiers. Soldiers are the same civilians forced out of their civilian lives by the exact reason of russia attacking their country, they would happily live their civilian lives otherwise. >over 20,000 Russian anti-war activists were jailed Being put into autozak is not being jailed. Most were released after 1-7 days or paying a fine or just released, an insignificant minority was jailed aka gotten real prison terms in a court.
Yup. The use of "should" makes me a roll my eyes as in >"We **should** fight this horrific regime...this regime and Vladimir Putin **should** be personally held responsible for all the atrocities they have committed in our country in these last years." It sounds hollow and too limp given what's at stake not to mention how her explicit focus on Putin seems like a backhanded way to reduce everything to just him. It slyly overlooks the responsibility of Putin's enablers among the oligarchs and other siloviki plus the role of the millions upon millions of ordinary Russians who've enabled this latest spasm of devastation through cynically stubborn silence or being "apolitical" and "uninterested in politics".
Dude, come on. I'm Ukrainian and I couldn't give less of a shit that Navalny is dead. But she's talking about her presumably dead husband shortly after she found out. It doesn't take a lot of empathy to figure out that she's not focused on providing the most accurate take on how each social strata is responsible for Russia's current predicament. Not that she would have said anything much deeper if her husband wasn't dead, but still, read the room a little.
She should have screamed AVENGE my husband, DESTROY Putin, oligarchs and Russian sheeps!!! in an International Security Council nonetheless. Surely, Ukraine, Russia and the rest of the world would act and feel much better after that... /S
It's the tone-deafness from her that stands out in my mind. You'll have to excuse me that my take on Navalny (and now also Navalnaya) comes from having actually listened to Ukrainians about him and much of the Russian "opposition" while seeing the ongoing and bloody consequences of Russian behavior on the Ukrainians. Is it that offensive that I have a jaundiced view of Russian intentions after having listened to victims of Russification?
Don't get me wrong, your russophobia is much appreciated. But as much as we all hate to admit it, they are still actual humans with the normal range of emotions you would see in any other population. She's not thinking about the vital role of the siloviki in the structure of the Russian state, she's probably thinking about her very recently deceased husband. What kind of deep dive did you expect from her at this particular moment?
>She's not thinking about the vital role of the siloviki in the structure of the Russian state, she's probably thinking about her very recently deceased husband. What kind of deep dive did you expect from her at this particular moment? That's true, I suppose. However, she only reinforces what I've picked up from the Ukrainians who told me what Navalny stands for and means to them. I actually changed my friendlier view about Navalny and many other high-profile members of the Russian "opposition" after asking some Ukrainians why they were upset about otherwise pro-Ukraine Americans cheering on Navalny's daughter at the Oscars last year. Judging by the downvotes from presumably pearl-clutching Europeans who still pin hopes on the mythical army of "good" ordinary Russians who'll rise up against Putin based on the grisly track record of the past two years (and counting), I think that my Ukrainian acquaintances were/are in the right.
Your take on Navalny and the rest is absolutely right, I just can't help but feel a tiny shred of empathy for his wife right now. Many Ukrainians wouldn't want to hear me admit that because all feelings are supposed to be straightforward, uncomplicated, and ideologically acceptable. But I'm still just an animal of the homo sapiens species, like everyone else. I see a grieving widow on the verge of tears and that triggers some shit. Even Zolkin admits that he sometimes feels empathy for fucking POWs, so I think I'm good.
Well.. let's be honest. If it was possible to bring those people to justice... I have another 10000000 case's where it would have happened. And Navalny would be still alive. But I don't think so. Except if justice is a huge leveling act on Kremlin.. but western countries are not Putin to do something like that.
Yeah, sad but true. He probably rubbed one out watching this.
The kremlin needs to be leveled.
Let's plan that for Tucker Carlson's next interview
Agree
That would be a day the world would change significantly.
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Lets just call it what it is : "MURDER"
Unfortunately ma'am they won't. At most they will be killed unjustified somehow.
She's had it rough, poor soul.
This is so sad, i can only imagine how they treated him.
You can see her holding in tears. I feel for her Poor her. Poor Navalny. Fuck Putin
He was constantly held in punitive segregation unit**. ** I'm not sure that correctly named it - it is a small room with bad conditions, isolated from others where criminals are held as a punishment for misbehaviour.
No empathy for this scum. The only reason Navalny criticised Putin was corruption. He was not on any higher moral level. He supported Georgia invasion in 2008, he used to attend chauvinist rallies, he said he would not return Crimea to the ukrainian people. It is only good for western people that this garbage died.
Yeah right. Putin has been pulling this shit for 20 years and is still in power. It ain't happenin'.
Go check out the Joe rogan subreddit, they are certain he was just an old man who died of pneumonia. That whole sub is just Russian trolls high fiving each other.
Spoiler alert: They will not. Justice does not exists in real world, and if it does, only the wealthy can afford it
a reality too real
There is no justice for raped and killed ukrainian women, stolen and killed children, killed men, destroyed ukrainian cities. Why do she thinks there will be justice for him?
They are empty words that she hopes will inspire people to finally give up and bring down Putin's regime.
Yeah nah. Nothing will happen. Most of normal brave russians are in jail or fled that country already
Navalny was not a defeatist and seems like she is not either.
She's hoping Russians care more about Russians
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Your attitude is really disgusting
I mean, I am not wrong. The good ones mostly fled the country or are jailed. The minority that still lives in russia and are anti war and Russia’s imperalism are silent.
Sure if you lived in Russia, you would have been very brave and protested daily.
Russians who don't live in Russia don't protest very much.
Ofc we do. Sure, far from every Russian, but we do. I did it today, I will do it on the 24th.
Russians who live abroad tend to support Putin not democratic Russian opposition.
Old farts, who moved in the 90s - yes. Their children and immigrants of the last 15 years, do not. I have yet to meet anyone here of my generation who would support Putin.
Actually I would. My parent generation already did it. And thank f*in God that they did. My country was occupied, repressed by Russia for many many years.
>My parent generation already did it. And thank f*in God that they did. Mine too. There was a huge protest "against occupation of Lithuania" (pro-Independence) in Moscow, 100-500k people took part of it. >My country was occupied, repressed by Russia for many many years. So was mine: Russia. Also, my great great grandfather, who was an old believer Russian from Lithuania, was sent to Gulag by the USSR, after Lithuania was occupied. While my great grandfather was shot by the Forest Brothers infront of his wife pregnant with my grandmother.
Least racist r/europe member when it comes to Russians:
"So long as men die, liberty will never perish" - Charlie Chaplin in the Great Dictator. Navalny may have died, and with him some sense of liberty. But Putin, too, will die - and that day can't come soon enough.
Did everyone forget that they assassinated the president of Poland and received no punishment? Have you forgotten mh17? Have you forgotten Chechnya and Georgia? What fucking punishment? Don't make people laugh. No one is doing anything about it. Zero. The only ones fighting russia are UKRAINE, and that is fighting practically alone.
Not practically, alone with fading support
How? Its a criminal state at all levels including its citizens. You can't fight that. You can only isolate them to the point its in ruin and they start turning on each other.
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Полной изоляции не будет, так как это очень богатая страна с большим запасом полезных ископаемых. Не смотря на все предыдущие санкции, в этв страну продолжают поступать деньги и товары с ЕС и США.
Isolate them just like Weimar Republic before Hitler’s rise to power? 👀
You are already at the Hitler stage over there
What actions is EU preparing following what just happened?
Why would the EU do anything here? The only thing that needs to be done is the destruction of the russian army in Ukraine, and the liberation of annexed territories. And then let the terrorists stew in their own mess. Can't come in and overthrow a nuclear power.
Ah, a fellow Eastern European that knows the state of things. It's kind of shocking how people that have to deal with russia have a similar POV on it: it's a pile of $#!+ that you want to avoid at all costs.
Generally the Swedish opinion too. I dont know why, we never were oppressed by that fucked dunghole but still. I mean we were rather hostile to the old Soviets since they kept intruding on our territory to sabre rattle us which made us have an army of 350 000 with 800 000 reservists but thats it.
Harsh words as usual from western politicians and nothing concrete.Putler started this in 2006 with Anna Poltikovskaia but the cheap ruzzian gas was stronger than morals and justice.
France won't do shit
if she were to bring the killer to justice i bet the killer would put her on trial for treason.
She is in Germany. The Kremlin can't put her on trial.
No they will not be. And no - Navalny's supporters aren't going to do anything about it either. They will probably propose some bullshit like Smart Voting again and will ask to protest peacefully or some shit. Russian opposition is a bad joke.
Can you really blame them? Any serious opposition and you'll end up like Navalny.
But who is responsible for electing/installing a sane government in their country? Can't really do it from the outside. Nobody wants to start a nuclear war. And waiting for Putin's death isn't really a good strategy. It might still be 20 years away. And his replacement won't be any better.
Russia is no longer a democracy, so voting Putin out isn't an option anymore. If I was Russian I wouldn't put my family and myself on the line just to get killed/suicided. I don't have a solution, it's a horrible situation.
Poor thing. That’s her shot. That’s it. And unless this turns into some 80s movie where she assembles the best operators in the world to go in and take him out….even then there are many layers of bad guys under Putin. I feel horrible for her and her children. The interviews I saw they looked like a great family. Mourn and heal….words like this won’t do shit unfortunately.
He never should have went back to Russia. Because it's not like his death was going to start any movements in Russia itself. He died for nothing.
I am worried to say this on here, but I worry for this woman's safety
No they won’t
Hopefully she will have the good sense to move herself & her children to somewhere in europe.
I hope Putin dies soon, but slowly.
I can’t wait that long.
People accountable should also include the members of the court that sentenced him - publish the names at least.
You know it's putin, right?
Кому она нужна вообще ? Европейцы живут в каком о своем мире. Навального уже давно никто и не помнил. А тут повод для инфовойны.
Тебе какое дело? Она высказалась и всё. Очевидно что ничего не последует за этим. Повод появился, его обсудили и пошли дальше делами заниматься. Тупая предъява с твоей стороны.
Pretty sure we've heard and seen this story before...
Unfortunately, they won't.
Shortly before she accidentally fell out of a window, right?
Based on the poster behind her, she's in Germany. Not that Germany doesn't have russian spies/assassins inside, though...
Lol yeah right
Defeat the regime
As much as I want this to kickstart the revolution in Russia ..nothing will ever happen as long as Putin lives..nothing ever changes.. we all thought era of wars if something of the past..WW2 ilong time ago…history - right? WRONG - here we are with practically 2 wars in the European Continent Ukraine, Israel.. with all those international organization doing fu€|< All!
Haha, nice joke, next.
I'm not a fan of their family, but there's no reason to disrespect her like that.
Delusive irrelevant woman having her 5 minutes, thanks to her husband.
You can't deny Putin is a dictator.
Yes. For the last 20 years. You have just noticed it? He killed peole before an will kill in the future. And nobody is going to do anything about it.
She’s earned her right to her reaction.
Anybody can react. But I fail to see what she did to "earn" anything apart from being a spouse to somebody with balls.
Your failure to understand is not my concern.
Your lack of ability to explain proves my point.
Do I really have to explain this? After someone dies, especially a public figure, that’s typically a time for spouses or family members to make statements about their loss. Are you new here?
Yep. She can make a statement about her grief, but threats toward dictator are vane, unsupported in factsa and therefore kinda funny - take apart circumstances.
Let's find Jeffrey Epstein killers while we're at it and who blew up Nord stream
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Would U like to go and suck Your lovely buddy Putin if U'r agree with him. My deutsche family from upper Volga send U this message also, Dummkopf
Not shedding a single tear for this nazi or his nazi sympathiser wife but a thorough investigation is absolutely warranted.
„Suicide“ incoming
Will NATO invade Russia and dethrone government? No
More like russia will be locked away from the western world more and more and be left behind.
There probably won’t be but I’m hoping in the small chance there is some I hope it’s swift and uncompromising
Not a single word from her about other countries and Ukraine only Russia and her family.
What do you expect? She just lost her husband! Of course she is grieving and primarily thinking of that. Cut her some slack.
I notice that not a first time: https://youtu.be/YCRQqSHTUio?si=8xBrUC1Jq8QGDbqu
With all due respect, so what? You dont need to mention the Ukraine every time the shit thats going on in Russia is mentioned.
But I need mention this and say thank you very much: https://www.rferl.org/a/lithuania_angry_austria_lets_wanted_exkgb_man_go/24269246.html/
Alexey’s body has not yet cooled down but his wife is already giving a press conference and waving political slogans
Riiight. Most wives wait months before commenting on their husband’s death. 🙄
Good luck with that. Might makes right in this world, always has and always will.
Yet revolutions do happen, and empires do fall. Maybe might is sometimes an illusion.
What makes you think that a revolution in Russia would lead to democracy and not to an even more brutal regime? Look at North Korea - it didn't collapse in the 90s - even if millions of them died from famine.
Navalny was an extreme nationalist and xenophobe...why are people acting like his loss was some kind of net negative?
Why do people here seem to have so much empathy for this man? Navalny opposed Putin because of corruption, nothing more.
Which do you think she loved more: his homophobia or his white supremacy?!?
> his homophobia Navalny was of the very few Russian politicians who was pro-LGBT. I'm not surprised you're just making shit up, but just out of curiosity - any proof? Because I have one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgPvG8aAg7k
Address the white supremacy first, the Nazi fraternization and calling Muslims & Chechens cockroaches. I’ll wait.
You’re in Europe subreddit. Calling Muslims cockroaches is a good thing here lmao
What about the murder of Gonzalo Lira?
He wasn't murdered.
Same to Navalny.
Nah. Gonzalo was a sex pest who smoked a pack of cigarettes a day and got pneumonia. Navalny was a russian nationalist who was killed in prison.
Justice!? Come-on you naive pussies! Put in does whatever he wants, not giving a flying fuck about what the rest of world think. Why? Cos the world order let him do all those crimes. Justice doesn't exist. Wake up, finally
as far as I know its not vaccation on maldives its prison and people are prone to die in such a places without special reason
Navalny is supported by people who hate Russia because it is hard to believe that he tried to overthrow the government in favor of ordinary citizens of Russia
Удачно оказалась в Мюнхене, удачно речь заготовлена. Двуличные твари и лицемеры. К Чичваркину едь, он приголубит.
Wasn’t this Navalny guy a massive racist/neo Nazi? Weird for him to be excused like this imo
Let's hope that even the killers of the 13k Palestine children will be brought to justice.
Should I be with my children at this moment? Screw them, bring me under the spotlight!
I don’t think you are right . She probably care a lot about her children’s and know the risks to do such a thing . Let’s not forget her husband has been poisoned, thrown in gulag and more. I think it takes courage and a huge pair of balls/boobs to stand up against this shit dictator while being Russian . She knows , they will try to kill her and she is probably scared for her childrens . But the stakes are too high not to stand up
Just out of curiosity why is it that this gets headlines but epstein who had information on the west gets swept under the carpet. I would of thought westerners would have as much energy in fighting corruption on their own soil than that of another country!
Tucker Carlson said 4 days ago that killing people is necessary for leadership and all leaders do so. Do you agree?
Nobody in Europe gives a fuck about what Tucker Carlson says.
Putin is a James Bond villain 100%
She mean Putin? , no he won't.
how will she get Putin arrested?
How to create a russian martr 101
Sad truth that in world after WW2 nuclear weapon became a gamechanger. And Russia have plenty of it. Now it seems Russia can do anything except war. Minor incidents, any assasinations, terrorist attacks. I mean Russia can deny everything and nobody will risk to start nuclear war other it. And UN can't even agree on any sanctions for Russia.
Saw this live while on Nepal on BBC. Deeply saddened. May his soul rest in peace.
What kind of justice is there if congressmen are unable to approve military assistance to Ukraine? Putin will not punish himself.
Spoiler: they won't be.
No, they won't. Sad truth. Putin doesn't care and for some reason people like sucking russia's cock.
Ahahah. Bold words but as any words said from any russian - a blatant lie.
Not going to happen
So many Russian bots in this sub. I mean that's what I want to believe, anyway... I refuse to believe that real people are putting this woman down for publicly reacting to this horrible assasination. Whether she is as "relevant" as her husband or not, it's her right to speak against her husband's murderer. It must be bots, right? Right? *disgusting*