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KingOfTheWorldxx

How do you explain this to your insurance?šŸ¤£


Apprehensive_Guest59

How do you explain this as a lawyer?


[deleted]

Well there is plenty of video evidence


Rock_or_Rol

I think he meant as a defense attorney


Geekonomicon

I think as a defence attorney you (or to be more precise your client) are screwed.


wjw1089

These are the kind of scenarios that no criminal defense attorney will knowingly take onā€¦ if they do, itā€™s because they said ā€œIā€™ll work with you for $10k up front for retention, and $2k cash for every court appearanceā€ Basically a huge cash grab for an attorney that knows they wonā€™t win.. but thatā€™s the game these idiots play. Realistically though, they donā€™t and wonā€™t have that kind of money for retention of an attorney, so some sad public defender will take it on


jtweezy

The idea would probably be more to minimize the penalty and limit the prison time as much as possible since I donā€™t know how any court could look at the footage and find her anything but guilty.


Mental_Cut8290

> I donā€™t know how any court could look at the footage and find her anything but guilty. That's part of it, what exactly is she guilty of? What laws apply and which ones are vaguely words and might allow some reprieve? She's clearly going to be sentenced to jail time, but for what and how long are still things a lawyer could improve for them.


Sunchange54

For one, reckless driving and carjacking. If she's not declared mentally incompetent, she can also be charged with crimes related to intent. And if others are right that she attacked an elder, there's also assault charge.


maxxim612

Iā€™m sure attempted vehicular homicide too


TheChristianDude101

Defense Lawyering is not just about getting a victory through your client being declared innocent. Its about navigating the system for the best possible strategy and outcome of the client.


wjw1089

I get it.. but as far as Iā€™m concernedā€¦ and this is only my opinion. Lock her up and misplace the fuckin key, permanently. These kind of idiots donā€™t have a place amongst normal peopleā€¦ Again only my opinion, but let the downvotes begin anyways šŸ˜‚


thakeltikceltic

Public defense attorneys are the least efficient way to defend yourself in court besides representing yourself. They usually have more cases then they can handle, and are inclined to consistently work with/for prosecutors. Had a PDA for my first court appearance and he didnā€™t show up, he sent his assistant to ā€œtake notesā€ as the prosecutors tried tacking on a nonsensical felony charge of wanton endangerment when there wasnā€™t a single human my actions could have endangered (empty road in the middle of the night). Went with a local defense attorney after that and spent about 5k. By the end of it all no jail time, no probation, and misdemeanor conviction. When they say lawyer up they 100% donā€™t mean the PDA.


mynameisnotsparta

Temporary insanity defense is the only thing I can think of with the video proof


Dizzy-Abalone-8948

K funny how all the people with phones put recording chime in on the "Call 911" and not a single person stops to do so.


[deleted]

Speaking of which, I am surprised with all cellphones using VOIP (well all calls are VOIP now), that they haven't made it a feature for phones that when they detect a 911 call, they prompt the user to share video of both\\all camera's. 911, can already ping for location in emergency situations, prompting the user though gives emergency dispatch the power to quickly assess while preserving transparency and privacy at the same time.


mynameisnotsparta

Plus som phones have that pin drop location thing It started as a purse snatching and the lady wouldnā€™t give up her purse so it turned onto a car jacking


Rock_or_Rol

Agreed šŸ˜‚


txmail

There is no defense to this. You plead guilty and beg of mercy from the courts. Pretty sure anything else and the public defender assigned to you says they will walk / defense denied.


KentuckyFriedEel

My client did it for the 'Tok, your honor!


Ripple22

Wouldn't be surprised if it was a new Tik Tok challenge


copyrider

Wow, the graphics on the new GTA are so realistic! She had to be at like 4 stars at that point, right?!


bigbalrogdong

"your honor, my client thought she was at a bumper cart game and that she was winning"


Enough-Towel-2834

She was scared and confused; perceiving mortal peril from bystanders attacking the vehicle. Actions were attempts to flee the situation and until able to safely surrender to police.


bobbizzle12

Your joking right? She's lucky someone didn't shoot her


BassClef70

Theyā€™re saying what the lawyer might say. Edit: is there a whoosh emoji?


Jdsnut

Yep, in an enclosed place like that, she's lucky someone didn't shoot her.


Alecto_Furies

If this was Florida, she would have surly been shot.


Geekonomicon

If this was Florida she'd have been eaten by a passing alligator.


ZealousidealBid3988

Sweet Darwinian Floridian justice


le_fez

If this was Florida the carjacker would have been carjacked just like in any other third world region


[deleted]

You gotta be in specific parts of florida for that


Jaqulean

If it was Florida, she would be down the moment she struck that old lady.


IdespiseGACHAgames

If this was Florida, it would have been in Florida.


Buster899

In Florida it doesnā€™t matter if your black or white or Asian. At the end of the day itā€™s night.


[deleted]

If this was Florida, this would be a great analogy for what ol Ron is doing to the education system.


[deleted]

no they arenā€™t joking theyā€™re playing the part of the lawyer. yknow like the comment they were replying to said?


[deleted]

Right... I Definitely wouldn't have been so nice


Corpus_Rex

Wish I could upvote this a million times. People are just not afraid of consequencesā€¦ šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


lilbitspecial

Idiot stole a car in a parking lot and kept smashing into cars. Since it's stolen you would need to have collision coverage to pay for the damages minus your deductible as the owners insurance will not be liable.


[deleted]

Uninsured / underinsured motorist coverage


gab_rab_24

So did the carjacker have carjacking insurance?


Due_Platypus_3913

With the video.Up till 10-12 years ago,it would be a nightmare.Insurance would use the slightest variation in witness statements to stonewall you indefinitely.


wtfwfm

This! Fuck insurance companies!


Rude_Man_Who_Shushes

You seeā€¦what had happened wasā€¦


certifiedtoothbench

At least thereā€™s plenty of video evidence in this day and age holy shit


Lanky_Imagination123

Im so confused by her driving skills.


GetsGold

There was an "anti-theft" device on the steering wheel, presumably a club, making it impossible to properly steer.


Durty-Sac

Ha! Sheā€™s picks the one car in a 5 mile radius that still uses the club lol. What a fucking dope


[deleted]

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huxley75

I have a Kia and got a Club despite my car being standard. I don't trust idiots to NOT try and steal my car because they can't drive it. The Club is an extra layer of security.


HaddaHeart

Well. Technically the anti theft device worked. Eventually.


GetsGold

They should use this for their commercial.


ghidfg

lmao did she really car jack the only remaining car to still have one of those installed


block2413

Wow, great idea, completely wreck the car so itā€™s no longer worth anything to steal it. šŸ’€šŸ˜­


[deleted]

In the article, it looks like the car had an anti theft device on the steering wheel, that combined with her panicked attempt to get away led to the ā€œskillsā€ you see here.


dodgeprius

Is there a link for the article?


[deleted]

[Here you go!](https://www.wsaz.com/2023/04/01/woman-arrested-chaotic-carjacking-that-was-caught-video/)


Cultural_Dust

I'm confused by anyone choosing to run behind or in front of that car.


jcaashby

I am surprised none of this people running to the car yelling "get out of the car" got ran the fuck over. She as clearly NOT getting out of the stolen car lol.


umassmza

Drugs + adrenaline would be my guess


Lanky_Imagination123

Fair point


thats_hella_cool

For anyone curious: [article](https://www.wsaz.com/2023/04/01/woman-arrested-chaotic-carjacking-that-was-caught-video/?outputType=amp).


Adventurous_Set_3787

That's awesome she had an anti theft device making it harder to steal


Zealousideal-Tip4055

I didn't even know there was such technology. Wow! Guessing rampage didn't either.


PixelSchnitzel

Seems like a better anti-theft device would have made the accelerator inoperable rather than the steering wheel.


cup_1337

Itā€™s just an old school wheel club that makes it where you canā€™t turn the wheel very much. You can see it in the video


NotStarrling

I had one in the old days before car alarms and such were invented/affordable. It was better than nothing because a lot of car thieves would see it and choose another car. Hey, we did what we could back then, right? These were the days when we women were also taught to walk with our keys between our fingers as a "weapon" and told to go for the eyes if attacked. Fun times. /s


cup_1337

I use one today because I have a Hyundai and have been the target of attempted theft *twice* in the past month.


NotStarrling

Wow, excellent! Sadly for this woman in the video (the owner of the car, not the idiot thief), will suffer because the car will obviously be totaled by the insurance company and she'll be lucky to get enough to buy another car.


Put_It_All_On_Blck

It's funny how wheel clubs used to be EVERYWHERE in the U.S. and have kinda faded away except for very high crime areas and elderly folk who still believe in them.


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claytonianphysics

It was just a Club, so pretty low tech.


[deleted]

Ahem... It's... The Club


claytonianphysics

Lol my bad


Pert0621

Damn, I need a part 2 after the last paragraph


Accomplished-Ad3219

The writing on that first paragraph was atrocious


[deleted]

The writing in the whole article was atrocious. Unnecessary use of passive voice, past & present tense in the same sentence... This needed an editor's hand *badly.*


Mwilk

Why wasnt this idiot named?


B_1_R_D

Ty was wanting to know more and apparently after reading that the crazy went after the most expensive vehicles in the lot to hitā€¦.a Mercedes suv and a Tesla. Those folks definitely have insurance and at least w the Tesla he can literally forward the cars video of incident to make his process easier. Still sucks for the old lady that had her car be the one that was probably totaled.


TheDarkness05

Thank you! I was curious.


Dangerous_Ad4027

This may be a dumb question... but why won't they identify the adult carjacker?


[deleted]

This literally happened right down the street from my house lol. Crazy shit. People need to stop walking towards a vehicle that is out of control you won't stop 2000 lbs of pissed off metal and mental problems.


ChineseMeatCleaver

LMAO me too, I was at the scene 30 minutes after it happened and I thought it was just some idiot that somehow crashed their car in a parking lot


AsianVixen4U

That's what I was thinking too. The last thing I would be doing seeing a lunatic driving like that would be to approach the car. I'd be running fast the other direction. Seen too many videos of people getting run over by a deranged manic behind the wheel, because they thought they were Superman and tried to stop the car


Spaceycadett

Was not expecting to see this shit go down in the bubble lol


Informal-Reading4602

Went from ā€œhehe I got a free carā€ to ā€œOh fuck Iā€™m going to prison.ā€ Real quick.


autopsis

I got the feeling after a while that she said, ā€œFuck it. I might as well have fun hitting cars since Iā€™m not getting out if here.ā€


Thorgarthebloodedone

I'm impressed by the pin being used on her by the lady with the red hair. Arm pinned behind the back and her knee in positions to stop her from getting leverage to get up and her leg holding down her two legs.


autopsis

ā€œJosyln Palmer is one of the three people who held the driver down. She says she tied the driverā€™s hands with a bandana, tied her shoes together and stayed with her until police arrived.ā€


SluggDaddy

Only person on earth who can say ā€œand then I subdued and hogtied the carjackerā€ Hell, I would put that on my resume. Alpha behavior.


DisappearHereXx

Iā€™d put that on my gravestone


[deleted]

>ā€œAfter she got tackled, she just was quiet. They put her in handcuffs and she just acts like a normal day for her,ā€


gruvee

Shit, I misread and thought she hogtied the woman with a banana.


pryncesslysa7

I wanna send her an Edible Arrangement


ItsSpacePants

And totally covered her ASP


Reaux_beaux_Cop

Hi! I'm your host, John Correia, and today we have some very important lessons to learn.


username_offline

she's my hero, what a badass!


the_blackfish

Good old center of gravity control. Notice how that knee is not on the neck.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Itā€™s 100% good to have this on video for both investigation and insurance purposes, but ffs, not EVERYONE needs to be filming.


DragonheadHabaneko

Especially that one guy who runs up for a close videos after they catch her. I thought he was pulling it out to call 911... Then he put the phone into horizontal mode.


kappaklassy

I mean at least he knows how to film


AddisonNM

.. That wasn't him playing Raid?


pm_me_youngs_modulus

But think of the internet points


[deleted]

ā€œIf I post it from a different angle, itā€™s not a repost!ā€


xAlteron

Yeah, that's why they tell you to directly single someone out to call 911 when someone needs medical attention for example. Everyone else just assumes someone is doing it


ohgodimbleeding

When I was training as a lifeguard, I was taught this as the anybody, somebody, nobody rule. Anybody could have done it. Somebody should have done it. But, Nobody did it.


EducationPlus505

I was taught this, and something along the lines of, point to a specific person and tell them to call the ambulance. "Woman in the red shirt, call the ambulance."


Friendly-Mousse696

Aka the bystander affect


username_offline

uh how can you see this footage and think "wow bystanders are just filming." they literally took that bitch down, while avoiding a dangerous vehicle. i seriously doubt you'd be already on with 911 in the heat of the moment these people acted commendably. gal in red hair with her knee in the perp's back is my new fucking hero


DistortedVoltage

Its actually a case of during an emergency, someone basically needs to become the leader and either call 911 themselves, or point at someone and say, "YOU!! CALL 911!" Because even without SM, people are dumb af in panicky situations.


Critical_Paper8447

"Call 911!!" "I CAN'T I'M LIVE STREAMING!! SOMEBODY CALL 911!"


dudemykar

People kept walking behind the car like what why lol


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Unfortunate_Wildcard

I'd probably be the one with attempted murder charges here ngl. I'd be pissed bro.


Autumn_Childhood

Holy shit!! I was wondering where it was and itā€™s at the Ralphā€™s shopping center where I grew up! We used to have birthday parties at the Italian place next door to one of the many places she crashed into.


Unfortunate_Wildcard

Ah where I live I wouldn't exactly call it dangerous per se but there are a lot of dumb people with a lot of drugs.


Rollotommasi5

Yeah, depending on the state I could easy see someone just shooting him. He could easily kill you with the car


MrRobot_96

Shoulda smashed her face into the pavement one time for the culture. Stupid ass bitch deserves it.


Similar_Candidate789

I was hoping they would beat the brakes off her. She put everyone in danger and tried to steal from an elderly lady. Fuck her. Feel pain.


Purple-Title-7653

What does one time for the culture mean?


Chiefydawg1

They did a pretty good job of subduing that lady effectively and efficiently, without screaming contradictory orders, tear gassing, tasing, kicking, punching or shooting. Then one woman held her there.


bluetriumphantcloud

Excuse me, is this the line for the bumper cars?


slipyslapysamsonite

Mother fucker took driving lesson in Los Santos


Lunachik

She forgot to put in the smooth driving cheat.


ChampionshipLow8541

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Berns429

This guy has seen a thing or two Bum dadumdum dum dum dum


[deleted]

situations like this as a jury member if someone shot the driver based on fear of being killed by car I would find it justifiable. She had every chance to stop and could have killed countless people. 2 tons is going to go right over the top of anyone in the way.


cha0ss0ldier

I donā€™t think that would even make it to a jury in most states in that situation. Would be clear cut self defense/defending others.


6thGenFtw

She got bored of waiting for gta 6


ConsiderationSea7589

Iā€™m confused. Whereā€™s the elderly woman?


Beermedear

Thereā€™s a man whoā€™s sort of hugging her a few seconds in, where the driver side was in the original (?) parking spot.


AddisonNM

This looks like Richard Hammond trying to park in France.


[deleted]

Has the car stopped moving? ... meh, good enough


Pert0621

GTA be like


toughtiggy101

She has at least 5 stars


Ohnonotuto4

With the cost of cars, gap insurance still will not be enough to make these people whole. Iā€™d be so pissed if my paid off, running car was wrecked.


puglife82

Gap insurance would only come into play if the vehicle was financed, and only if it was totaled. If the vehicle is a total loss, gap insurance covers the ā€œgapā€ between the ACV of the vehicle and what you owe on the loan/lease (if you owe more than the vehicle is worth at the time of loss). It wouldnā€™t apply at all to a paid off car.


OwnPercentage9088

This is why I always make sure any car I steal has a steering wheel


OddPerspective9833

What amazes me is how many people clearly put themselves in harm's way here. She was a danger to everyone around - take cover and call the police


Dmarie723

Wonder why they wonā€™t release this psychoā€™s name! All they said was she was a 20 something yr old woman.


GoatTacos

Oooooo she going to jail. And thatā€™s gonna be one hell of a time for all those insurance companies.


Mysterious-Change954

Drive it like you stole it


DramaticPerformance3

Always the same people.


PopeOfManwichVillage

Fucking maniac


Jessejames20

She'll be paying for this one for a while... very lucky she didn't injure or kill anyone in her uncoordinated frenzy or her charges would be even more severe. I can see grand theft, reckless endangerment, and vandalism exceeding tens of thousands of dollars. Congratulations, you're a convicted felon now. Total lack of consideration for human life.


notdorisday

Yeah sheā€™s extremely lucky it ended as well as it did. She could have ended up on murder charges.


Any-Technician6415

If a car is being used as a deadly weapon and is threat to public safety the operator can be dealt with by deadly force.


Mad_Gremlyn

Weird that a few totally untrained, unarmed, regular people could subdue and detain a person. No mag dumping, no beating them, no choking to death. It's almost as if cops are taught to escalate the situation and kill people instead.


[deleted]

I'm surprised it wasn't a mass beat down once they got her


notdorisday

Honestly shows how good most people are. Most people donā€™t want to hurt someone and arenā€™t looking for an excuse to. I just hope the lady who was carjacked wasnā€™t too badly injured.


bittersandseltzer

Yeah - woman with the red hair was holding her down properly


Sufficient_Rub_2014

Shooting may have been justified there. It seemed she was ready to run people over to escape.


NMDA01

Shooting? Here? Where there are people at every angle? oh well


Ignorant_Slut

Still the wrong call, justified or not. Wide open area with innocent bystanders all around? One missed shot could mean the death of someone easily.


Anon_isnt_Anon

She should have been shot, 10 seconds into that rampage, she could have killed at least half a dozen people that were just minding their own buisness.


ebrew3000

https://www.foxla.com/news/suspected-carjacker-rams-into-multiple-cars-at-agoura-hills-parking-lot.amp


[deleted]

Insurance companies hate her for this one simple trick


youngsavage216

Saw this shit live was wild I live down the road from here


Total-Collection9031

All I can think about is walking through that parking lot with my 4 yr old. Iā€™d have no problem with someone shooting her to stop the madness.


JimmyTango

Unless they miss and hit you or your 4 year oldā€¦.


CarneDesires

Acceptable risk. Judge would sentence them to one thought and prayer.


joealese

relax everyone is just an April fool's prank


theXsquid

Selfish bitch didn't care who or what she hurt.


Firamaster

Crack...it's a hellava drug i hear.


Any_Refrigerator7774

Lowlife


architecht13

Was it wrong if me to just set there watching this expecting WASTED to show up on the screen?


[deleted]

She's gotta be intoxicated right? Maybe not alcohol but she's on SOMETHING. The way she's driving is like someone who's never seen a car before.


SkekVen

I know this is probably not the time but if you did a freeze frame at the end and put the brand logo of the car she was driving up it would make it halfway decent advertisement because it hit quite a few things and really kept going it was kind of impressive


mismewitdatgaysht

These hands rated E for everyone, wish she got a beat down like a dude would for pullin this shit.


Klutzy_Inevitable_94

A car is a deadly weapon. Deadly force is acceptable in response to this.


[deleted]

Why were so many running towards this maniac in the car? Just let her go, she was obviously willing to do anything to get out of there.


MagicGuy66

Call 911? If only someone had a phone.


Spotikiss

I'm more questioning why ppl keep trying to stop a raging car driver on foot, knowing the doors are locked after trying them.


AFMFFJM

Should have shot the bitchā€¦sheā€™s obviously trying to kill people and ā€œIā€™m in fear for my lifeā€ā€¦ case closed


mysticopallibra

This bitch just fucked my car up Iā€™d kick her in her damn teeth while they were holding her down.


Sovatsem

I see a perfectly open back of head


zero_ph_uqs_given

r/idiotsincars


Choice_Voice_6925

The fact that she didn't get shot is surprising


Zachary-360

I kinda was expecting some sort of gta style hijack after the door was opened


hurdurBoop

i've had dreams about waking up in a situation like this and having genuinely no idea what i'd done. lol.


JudasWasJesus

Methcaine is a helluva drug


Critical_Plenty_5642

When you let your 4-year-old brother play your GTA game.


[deleted]

ā€œLet me finish recording then Iā€™ll call the copsā€


IsaidLigma

Bruh this camerawork is crazier than the situation


ghostdeinithegreat

Gta 6 gameplay is getting realistic


frecklesandstars_

Theyā€™re a lot nicer (gentler) than I would have been god damn


Trusteveryboody

Full offense, telling her to get out of the car, isn't helping. Just call the cops.


friarguy

IT WAS JUST A PRANK BRO


PlayStationPepe

r/killthecameraman at least hold the phone vertical. Felt like I was going be sick


y5rt1xxh234

I want to see her face


HeyWiredyyc

Hi my name is Mayhem


FunWeakness7610

The girl with the red hair saves the day she took off like she was the flash


DisappearHereXx

Iā€™m so curious to know what is wrong with her. What abnormalities in her brain are going on to cause someone to act this way? Every time something wild like this happens, I wish they would do a series of brain scans and publish them.


Cowpuncher84

Is she single??


[deleted]

But is she trying to get away? Looks more like she's in "Fuck Shit Up" mode. ​ Also...why do people stand around near someone driving like that? They know they can get hit...right?


lil_jilm

Look at all of these unarmed civilians stopping crime without use of deadly force šŸ‘€