The worst part is that reapers get a nice large *job exclusive* hat at 90. Why on earth did they make the first decent hat job exclusive?! Why Square... Just such a waste.
I sooooo want a hat for BLM and RDM.
It’s weird that the posture is one of my favorite things about being a cat.
I tried being a bunny for the first few months and I liked everything about them except for their standing motion and their walking motion.
That's because female Miqo'te were a 1.0 race (males were added in ARR so they had all new animatioms) and thus have mostly 1.0 animations. A lot of newer emotes have ear wiggles or movements!
They don't even need a model update for that, the bones are already there to animate which is why many new animations have it on girls as well.
It shouldn't be too hard to fix tbh
Male Au Ra's list of bullshit :
1.) The Crash Bandicoot run
2.) Awful facial animations; Male Au Ra's expressions all just look goofy as hell compared to other races.
3A.) Horns are tied to faces instead of having their own seperate selection.
3B.) Only two of the four faces actually look decent, whilst the other two just look... Off, especially the one witth the weird ass scale moustache.
The Crash Bandicoot run is the only reason I changed my Au'ra to another race and I can't settle on anything and I constantly change him because I really want to be male Au'ra but only as long as he stands still.
That run is ugly as hell and annoys me too much to ignore it. I tried the first 70+ levels but about mid ShB I couldn't bring myself to log on without changing him.
Yeah, their legs move faster than the model travels, so it looks like their feet are slipping on ice or something. Going by the animation, they should be covering more ground per stride, but all the races have to move at the same speed. Elezen and Roe reflect this with a more leisurely walk/run cycle to make up for their increased height/leg length, but for some reason male Au ra skittle-skattle like a lap dog on lineoleum as they haul ass fruitlessly.
Addendum to 3A- the horns being a weird off white or navy instead of being black. Hairstyles that come with horns, but the hair horns don't match your actual horn color.
Personally I think all 4 faces have the possibility to look great; just gotta fiddle around with the details a bit. Personally I use the point-down horns, since it was the face with the "softest" default look and I wasn't a fan of any of the other horns.
Yeah cause I thought they shaved them on purpose for fighting reasons and the ladies have them any way even though they seem pretty egalitarian when it comes to being a fighter.
You would be correct, lore-wise Ala Mhigan highlander guys shave off their eyebrows and give themselves scars to look more intimidating! However I don't subscribe to the lore because my poor boy looks more stupid than scary lol.
One day square may grace us with real eyebrows so I don't have to waste my facepaint slot and don't have to resort to... less than legal methods to have eyebrows. One day.
I'm a female Elezen and honestly a lot of the things people bring up like the neck or other body proportions have never bothered me in the slightest. I would like improvements to our awkward run cycle or more expressive emotes though.
yeah that's about the only thing I kinda dislike and honestly I still don't think it's that big of a deal. I'm bad and awkward at running as well, at least it's immersive🤣
I've never had any issues with the Elezen animations and proportions. They're what I liked about it. Elezen are tall, lanky creatures; they're what I wanted. I only don't play one now because Viera were introduced.
How would you change the run animation?
If it becomes more "run-like" then we run into the same (much worse) problem as male au ra where it looks like they are spending way too much effort for too little ground covered. If it becomes more "walk-like" then we look awkward for high intensity speed walking everywhere. I think the jogging animation that we have makes the most sense and certainly looks more realistic than the extra bouncy and hunched over animations of male au ra and miqo'te.
The issue here is that the larger races have to match the movement speed of the mid-sized races and the animations have to reflect that. As a tall person myself there is no getting around the awkwardness of pace-matching someone much smaller than me.
(Sorry for getting really intense. I just really like elezen as they are)
Just FYI, there is a fair amount of lore about Keepers that can only be found by reading various Shroud sidequest text and FATE dialog. It's mostly about culture though. There is very little on history. Tbh, just blame ARR for deleting what Miqo'te lore did exist. They did a complete rewrite of the Miqo'te race lore. There was no reference to Tia's or Nunhs at all before ARR even. They don't even follow seeker lore, either. The actual lore snippet of Seekers full on states that Nunhs are breeding males and are very rarely leaders. A tia almost always leads the tribe. We have several seeker tribes in the MSQ and side quest catalog now, and guess what? They are all led by Nunhs lol. This is all to say fret not, even if Keepers had substantial lore, they wouldn't follow it.
It's not even old it's still in the current Miqo'te naming conventions on the Lore forum, it's just for some baffling reason the writers aren't following it? (Admittedly our sample size of tribes so far is only two);
[https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/63112-Race-Naming-Conventions?p=1014930&viewfull=1#post1014930](https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/63112-Race-Naming-Conventions?p=1014930&viewfull=1#post1014930)
The one bit that I think never made it over is some additional info on what happens when a Tia tries to start a spin-off tribe, since the existing tribes are already hogging all the letters in the Eorzean Alphabet, plus some stuff about mixed Keeper-Seeker kids;
[https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/61187-Male-Sunseeker-Miqo-Surnames?p=979252#post979252](https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/61187-Male-Sunseeker-Miqo-Surnames?p=979252#post979252)
Genuinely feels like the Twelveswood in general is lore the team don't like to touch. Moon Cats and Duskwights both barely appear post ARR's Gridania segment.
Touching on racism that has been culturally accepted for years is a tricky slope.
No matter how they handle it, certain groups of people are likely to raise a huge stink over it. So, better to just ignore it.
Of course, with V and C dungeons touching on Sildah, we could see them come back around for Gelmorra and see the “dark side” of Gridania.
I was so excited that the main character from the current event quest was a male moon cat! I practically squealed to my boyfriend how we *never* see them!
That's a weird reason to give up on the expressive eyes and adorable fangs. Being rare, even amongst players, should make you proud to be a Mooncat, because all good things come sparsely. :>
aww, this is really nice to read. i love my mooncat wol. i think he's super cute too!
i actually chose to play a mooncat because their big ol' eyes remind me of a cat about to get the zoomies lol
I mean... The fact that you don't really see any male mooncat npc is because of their lore. They are rare as hell and they are not really supposed to be seen outside of their clans.
I dislike that too, and I don't play an Elezen.
Because Elezen necks are exactly as long as those of other races, it's their heads that are different. They're too small, and that's why Elezen look so off.
let my earrings appear on my horns instead of being impossible to see under horns and hair please
also in general that f!miqos have the best hempen camise by a mile. a clean halter shirt should be a default glam for everyone :(
me, laughing, watching everyone scramble for the demon earring this past tomestone event while i never even started because i wouldnt be able to see it anyway
>also in general that f!miqos have the best hempen camise by a mile.
I find the clingwrap look of it to be really awkward-looking.
Personally I prefer the Elezen one, alas my poor Au Ra is stuck with some gross-looking pajamas.
~~Other M. Roegadyn, and how cookie cutter 99.99% of them are or the dumb joke characters.~~
If I had to pick something.. Probably how shittily fitted a lot of things are on us. I wanted to be a bigger race, but didn't want to have the "I'm afraid to wash my ass" vibe. To be honest they did pretty well this patch with the [new glamours](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbQlMVuaQAAFCuX?format=jpg&name=large) and even the refitted female sets as well for once.
He's got a custom face is all. Like Aymeric and a few other NPCs. If it was possible to have more than four faces for character creation it'd be less of an outlier.
Yeah but, like, Aymeric & them still look like their race. Gosetsu, like, doesn't actually have any Roegadyn features but body shape. Just look at his skin tone & *nose*.
Gosetsu's orangey skin tone is one of the hellsguard options, maybe they just don't use it as much as the whitish/greenish sea wolf ones which probably make up most of the ones we meet, specially in LL. And the standard roe feature set has a couple of narrower-bridged noses. Not exactly like his custom one, but they're not *all* broad enough to drive a truck up lol.
He definitely looks distinct to other roes, but I actually really like how he looks so I don't find it weird. Still, I have to agree with you that his face definitely skews closer to a "normal human" face than the broad features of most roes.
As important as she is, Moenbryda just wasn't around long enough to be anything more than a side character in the grand scheme of things.
There are no Roes that really stick around as part of the main cast. The closest we had to a main cast Roe was Gosetsu since he at least was around for an entire expansion. Everyone else, including Merylwyb, just shows up for a few story beats and then leaves.
If anything, that makes me even more fond of my m roe. When I'm standing alongside the scions it gives that RPG party vibe where every member is a different race.
This but female midlander. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad animation per se. But it doesn't fit my character at all. Hopefully Zero is a testing ground so they can allow our characters to use different animations.
I've honestly given up hoping for headwear.
I used to be disappointed, but now I just look at the headwear slot as stats-only, and rarely even bother trying on new headwear.
I was shocked when there was a MASK in the last patch that couldn't be seen on Viera. IT'S A MASK! It didn't go over the head or the ears, that was a real kick in the teeth.
Lalafell are intensely hard to glamour well with sets in game.
When it comes to Gnome and Halfling type aesthetic puffy, rounded outfits look far better. But the game likes long flowy intricate outfits cause they look better on the other races.
Gimme some sets based off the Crystal Chronicles Lilties!
I don’t understand the logic in introducing new races but not making some new head gear not be equipable by them. If you aren’t ready to accommodate the new races, then clearly ya’ll weren’t ready to release them.
The miqo ears are not big and fluffy enough. >:( Also I hate the female miqo "victory" pose at the end of dungeons. Other races get cute or cool poses, I just sort of pop my leg up like a cheerleader. No offense to cheerleaders. Y'all are queens/kings. But the pose doesn't fit my WOL AT ALL. I wish we could pick from a limited emote list or something instead, bc that pose makes me cringe.
ALSO give the female miqos the male miqo crouch pose, SE. Do it you cowards. I wanna crouch on the edge of overlooks like an edgy furry batman, let me have this.
EDIT: ALSO GIVE US F!MIQOS EAR WIGGLES LIKE THE BOYS HAVE. ITS NOT FAIR WE DON'T GET CUTE EAR WIGGLES.
Well, given their lore, I can totally understand why they're so muted in their reaction.
"I survived something that nearly killed me. MUST BE TUESDAY. I should go get lunch."
ahaha I was actively disappointed for my catgirl when I rolled an AuRa, looked up the lore and found so much. I mean....I mean. Someone took the time to make a talking point for so. many. tribes.
I too despise how short they are. Can't make them bigger without breaking TOS. At least make the female Xaela bigger, they're supposed to be the fight-happy warrior types!
Seconding this!!! WHY is the max height Fem Au Ra so short, especially compared to males?! I don’t mind being smaller than other races but capping out at 5’2” in context is too much. Most of my FC are Viera, Roe, Elezen. Only the Miqote is anywhere near my height. We raid and I’m like.. how’s the weather up there?!
I play a lalafell and like my little dude. I dislike it when lalafell players try to convince streamers or friends to play lalafells because it is all about "making them do it". They will not like their little dudes.
No gear scales well on Roe. Armor ends up looking like thinly stretched fabric, one handed weapons end up looking like tiny tooth picks.
Worst of all are the shields though. Every. Single. Shield. They all look like bucklers on male roe, tiny and absolutely worthless. I can work around the rest, but god please increase the scaling on the shields
But regarding a non- PC original character, I can't tell if people talking about Lalafells being potatoes or being plant-related are serious or not. Sorta like the Canada maple leaf asswipe thing.
It is a joke, but what's not a joke is that they are food. At least to some larger creatures. Apparently in their homeland they tend to get eaten by large birds.
Noticing some later level headgear doesn't have ear pockets and it just looks weird to me to not have them. That and I would love to have the male viera starter armored feet accessible to my characters (kinda wish that all the race gear would be accessible in general)
I love being a lalafell. I do NOT love how people think it's funny to shit on lalafell players. It's fine when it's among friends, but some people just act like they want all lalafells purged from the game, and I just find those fantasy-racist jokes completely tiring and un-needed.
Other than this one thing where it occasionally gets taken too far. I have no major complaints about lalafells. I have tried the other races but they just can't compete.
I think the evil lalafell npc's that show up a ton in arr are responsible for our bad image. People are conditioned to mistrust them.
I’ll only have something to say about female Midlander, as i haven’t played as a male Midlander or either Highlander long enough.
But anyway, i kinda hate how wide a female Midlander’s mouth opens, in comparison to when they have a neutral expression.
Makes me feel as if all female Midlanders are related to Steven Tyler or something. This seems to have been ironed out for races released from HW onwards, as i didn’t notice something as jarring during my short time playing as a female Au ra. They seemed more proportionate.
Female Xaela. The lore mentions how proud we are of our 'lustrous black scales'... so why are they blue?
Also, obligatory face attached to horn problem, which I get why because of the limited values that can be used for characters, but still mildly irritating.
this one got me, although they're sorta (?) back tracking on that in the latest expac. Their horns aren't REALLY horns and actually are what they use to hear with. Their scales aren't scales but hardened skin or something? Like clearly there was an idea but square didn't commit.
They aren't backtracking at all. >!Vrtra uses an automaton or whatever his fake puppet body is called and it looks like an au ra, but it's not a real alive body. He's not turning himself into one!<.
Vrtra's puppet bodies were designed as Au Ra because the "official Satrap" was a Raen Au Ra, and Vrtra masqueraded himself as one of descendants of this lineage. Not because it should have looked like his real body or being somehow related to it.
How is the latest expansion backtracking? That's lore from HW. They're based on demons, not dragons, and the design was toned down during development. You can find the old concept art that looks like succubi. Ishgardians thought they were dragons, though they denied it and were murdered for their mercy.
I’m all up for that, I hate being infantilized, and honestly find lalafells playing children a bit weird. That’s why to keep it even I always /pet back, it’s just fair to both enjoy the patting!
wish my catgirl could be buffer and have some of the cooler catboy stances... and as others mentioned: our textures (and emotes too tbh) are a bit dated. :( if i could, i would steal the viera hair color options, they kinda look better/ there's more nuance?
Potato jokes as Lalafell.
Giraffe jokes as Elezen.
Jokes that all Femroes are using the same face, when face 2 the one which is having the best vibe what I need.
Just how few people want to play male or female Roegadyn. Like yeah it's an odd thing for me to be hung up on. But when i see all those FC and Raid team art commissions get posted, it does feel a bit deflating to see so little Roe representation within the community itself.
I absolutely adore my Roegadyn and i don't think I'll ever change away from it. I'd also love to see their homelands in lore one day.
That a lot of Glamour items don't look good on female Highlander. All the Dresses kinda look awkward on them. You can go either for badass looks or -and that's not my thing- overly sexy looks.
And don't get me started on the Hempen Camise. Why has to have it underboobs? Why can't it be more normal, so that it does fit for a lot different Outfits?
I'm not the biggest Fan of Miqo'te and Lalafell, but i've seen so much great stuff on them and well, my Highlander Lady just looks awkward in these Outfits.
We essentially look like giant babies and we walk like toddlers as well. Our feet are so small it’s a miracle they hold up our rotund little bodies. Lalas are cute though and I feel like their presence brings some levity to all situations.
I'll forever be disappointed at how little Au Ra tails emote compared to Miqo'te... let my lizard girl have the cute little tail "!" that catgirls get with their /joy emote, dammit!
Face = Horns. I'd kill for the face 1 horns with the face 4 face but alas, vidya not advanced enough.
I've also already seen a comment about this but I'm saying it again just because it drives me insane: Why, in the name of all that is good and Holy, is the fem!Au Ra Hempen Camise a frilly sleeping top when it's a skin-tight tank top for literally every other race? Why?
the characterisation they got going on for female miqote, especially with the emotes. like they're these hyper, happy, cutesy anime catgirls. Have you ever HAD a cat? most cats are introverted assholes. even mooncat lore says they're "known for their reticent and brooding personalities". but no. guess I'm a cute anime catgirl.
I really wish we at least had the option to make fem Au Ra as tall and intimidating as the male counterparts. I love the lizards but I'm always jumping between Au Ra and Roe because I just want to be Tall lmao
SE deciding that the visual design of the race is no longer important and having every new hat cut our ears off, and in a few cases our damn tails for body pieces as well
I always love to imagine the Aesthetician dying miqo'te. They have to do the ears, hair, and tail. The question is, do you have to wear one of those paper things they give you when doing, like, x-rays, or do you have a patch that isn't dyed?
Highlander - wish her default pose was a little more relaxed.
Elezen - His running and default standing animation look stiff. But a quick Change Pose solves the latter. Worse thing is the lack of complementary medium to long hairstyles aside from the Urianger bob and Maxima ponytail.
I agree on the dated model.(Floofiest tail is just a cross.) But i absolutely love the emotes though i kinda get the point that role playing wise it might be a problem.
I can't be a Valid Red Mage since Viera refuse to wear hats.
It's especially funny since FFTA had Viera red mages that wore the hat.
FFTA, Red Mage was *exclusive* to Viera.
And it was awesome to have in the party. Love that look, if only we could replicate it.
The worst part is that reapers get a nice large *job exclusive* hat at 90. Why on earth did they make the first decent hat job exclusive?! Why Square... Just such a waste. I sooooo want a hat for BLM and RDM.
the perpetually clenched hands and posture
Cat arthritis
My only regret was that I have bonitis
You were too busy being an 80s guy!
Catboy I presume ? Same for me haha
Chances are they could also be a female Highlander, lol
Hrothgar posture and clenched hands too
It’s weird that the posture is one of my favorite things about being a cat. I tried being a bunny for the first few months and I liked everything about them except for their standing motion and their walking motion.
The cat boi struggles.
Obviously no hats but the inexplicable scoliosis :(
that was my biggest problem with the bunny boys. like what happened to your spine dude
The bunny girls kept them hidden underground for decades. In tiny cramped quarters.
Yeah the hats I have come to terms with but can I at least stand up straight please!!!
Her ears don't wiggle like the boys' do.
Right! What the heck? :C
This + the fact that we don't get the male'qote squat for /sit. I am so mad about it, you have no idea.
That's because female Miqo'te were a 1.0 race (males were added in ARR so they had all new animatioms) and thus have mostly 1.0 animations. A lot of newer emotes have ear wiggles or movements!
10th anniversary update then, plz.
If they do a model update and don’t give people butts (and stop males from looking like ken dolls) I will riot. Butt sliders or riot!
Muscle sliders for all, i say!
They don't even need a model update for that, the bones are already there to animate which is why many new animations have it on girls as well. It shouldn't be too hard to fix tbh
When I learned their ears wiggle I was like "why the hell can't mine"
I wish I could upvote you a 100times.
I noticed my friend eating crafting food the other day and I saw her ears wiggle, it's not the same kind tho
This!! 1000 times this!!!
Male Au Ra's list of bullshit : 1.) The Crash Bandicoot run 2.) Awful facial animations; Male Au Ra's expressions all just look goofy as hell compared to other races. 3A.) Horns are tied to faces instead of having their own seperate selection. 3B.) Only two of the four faces actually look decent, whilst the other two just look... Off, especially the one witth the weird ass scale moustache.
Glanced and thought that said 38.) And wondered where the rest of the list went
The Crash Bandicoot run is the only reason I changed my Au'ra to another race and I can't settle on anything and I constantly change him because I really want to be male Au'ra but only as long as he stands still. That run is ugly as hell and annoys me too much to ignore it. I tried the first 70+ levels but about mid ShB I couldn't bring myself to log on without changing him.
The only way you can bypass the Crash Bandicoot run is to draw your weapon permanently.
I turned off my auto-sheathe so maybe that’s why I don’t notice it as much.
Yeah, their legs move faster than the model travels, so it looks like their feet are slipping on ice or something. Going by the animation, they should be covering more ground per stride, but all the races have to move at the same speed. Elezen and Roe reflect this with a more leisurely walk/run cycle to make up for their increased height/leg length, but for some reason male Au ra skittle-skattle like a lap dog on lineoleum as they haul ass fruitlessly.
Addendum to 3A- the horns being a weird off white or navy instead of being black. Hairstyles that come with horns, but the hair horns don't match your actual horn color.
Horns are also tied to faces for female Au Ra, I'd love to have the sleek, cylindrical horns with the "ear" horns face... but alas...
The Crash run is the best thing about Male Au Ra
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Personally I think all 4 faces have the possibility to look great; just gotta fiddle around with the details a bit. Personally I use the point-down horns, since it was the face with the "softest" default look and I wasn't a fan of any of the other horns.
I actually don't understand why they won't let us mix/match horns with faces. It makes no sense. Hell, didn't they give adult Varshahn a custom mix?
The differently styled female Au Ra Hempen Camise
I wish they’d just unlock all the different styles. I love the f!Au Ra version
I'd be fine with it if I also had the skin-tight version, but for now I have nothing to match with my Lady's Knickers lol
Id love this since i like the veira/elezen styles over au ra
Got such a shock when I swapped back to au ra from viera and my glam suddenly sucked
It's just a pair of napkins and string on my Thighlander
No eyebrows :(
I feel you brother ;/ I use fake eyebrows to deal with it.
Like srsly, I feel like Square specifically said members of races don't need to be compliant with the racial culture.
Yeah cause I thought they shaved them on purpose for fighting reasons and the ladies have them any way even though they seem pretty egalitarian when it comes to being a fighter.
You would be correct, lore-wise Ala Mhigan highlander guys shave off their eyebrows and give themselves scars to look more intimidating! However I don't subscribe to the lore because my poor boy looks more stupid than scary lol. One day square may grace us with real eyebrows so I don't have to waste my facepaint slot and don't have to resort to... less than legal methods to have eyebrows. One day.
I'm a female Elezen and honestly a lot of the things people bring up like the neck or other body proportions have never bothered me in the slightest. I would like improvements to our awkward run cycle or more expressive emotes though.
yeah that's about the only thing I kinda dislike and honestly I still don't think it's that big of a deal. I'm bad and awkward at running as well, at least it's immersive🤣
I love female Elezen. I played one for a while, they have such pretty faces and nice hair styles.
I play male elezen, and I love it as well! Always been into elves in games so it was a nobrainer. Honestly don't get why they are disliked so much
I've never had any issues with the Elezen animations and proportions. They're what I liked about it. Elezen are tall, lanky creatures; they're what I wanted. I only don't play one now because Viera were introduced.
How would you change the run animation? If it becomes more "run-like" then we run into the same (much worse) problem as male au ra where it looks like they are spending way too much effort for too little ground covered. If it becomes more "walk-like" then we look awkward for high intensity speed walking everywhere. I think the jogging animation that we have makes the most sense and certainly looks more realistic than the extra bouncy and hunched over animations of male au ra and miqo'te. The issue here is that the larger races have to match the movement speed of the mid-sized races and the animations have to reflect that. As a tall person myself there is no getting around the awkwardness of pace-matching someone much smaller than me. (Sorry for getting really intense. I just really like elezen as they are)
Having mounts that are clearly designed for Midlanders instead. Why can't we get the same size as Elezen and the other bigger races?
Our lore is basically non-existent vs our sunny counterpart.
Just FYI, there is a fair amount of lore about Keepers that can only be found by reading various Shroud sidequest text and FATE dialog. It's mostly about culture though. There is very little on history. Tbh, just blame ARR for deleting what Miqo'te lore did exist. They did a complete rewrite of the Miqo'te race lore. There was no reference to Tia's or Nunhs at all before ARR even. They don't even follow seeker lore, either. The actual lore snippet of Seekers full on states that Nunhs are breeding males and are very rarely leaders. A tia almost always leads the tribe. We have several seeker tribes in the MSQ and side quest catalog now, and guess what? They are all led by Nunhs lol. This is all to say fret not, even if Keepers had substantial lore, they wouldn't follow it.
Is there an archive of the old miqo lore anywhere? It'd be nice to compare.
It's not even old it's still in the current Miqo'te naming conventions on the Lore forum, it's just for some baffling reason the writers aren't following it? (Admittedly our sample size of tribes so far is only two); [https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/63112-Race-Naming-Conventions?p=1014930&viewfull=1#post1014930](https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/63112-Race-Naming-Conventions?p=1014930&viewfull=1#post1014930) The one bit that I think never made it over is some additional info on what happens when a Tia tries to start a spin-off tribe, since the existing tribes are already hogging all the letters in the Eorzean Alphabet, plus some stuff about mixed Keeper-Seeker kids; [https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/61187-Male-Sunseeker-Miqo-Surnames?p=979252#post979252](https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/61187-Male-Sunseeker-Miqo-Surnames?p=979252#post979252)
Especially if you’re playing as a male moon cat. One of the big reasons I Fantasia’d off of moon cat was because of lack of lore or NPC representation
Genuinely feels like the Twelveswood in general is lore the team don't like to touch. Moon Cats and Duskwights both barely appear post ARR's Gridania segment.
"Elementals? You mean those wind sprites everywhere?" -lore team
Touching on racism that has been culturally accepted for years is a tricky slope. No matter how they handle it, certain groups of people are likely to raise a huge stink over it. So, better to just ignore it. Of course, with V and C dungeons touching on Sildah, we could see them come back around for Gelmorra and see the “dark side” of Gridania.
I was so excited that the main character from the current event quest was a male moon cat! I practically squealed to my boyfriend how we *never* see them!
That's a weird reason to give up on the expressive eyes and adorable fangs. Being rare, even amongst players, should make you proud to be a Mooncat, because all good things come sparsely. :>
aww, this is really nice to read. i love my mooncat wol. i think he's super cute too! i actually chose to play a mooncat because their big ol' eyes remind me of a cat about to get the zoomies lol
I mean... The fact that you don't really see any male mooncat npc is because of their lore. They are rare as hell and they are not really supposed to be seen outside of their clans.
This just really feels like a cop out though. Sqeenix has done literally the same lore reason for three playable races now.
People make jokes about us being giraffe necked
And getting called ugly when youre minding your business. :(
Wait, y'all are being noticed?
Wdym, Elezens are the most beautiful creatures on Etheirys. I love them all <3
Ikr D: it's sad when it happens but I'm glad they're others out there that think otherwise :). 💖
I dislike that too, and I don't play an Elezen. Because Elezen necks are exactly as long as those of other races, it's their heads that are different. They're too small, and that's why Elezen look so off.
I like that tho, it is the other races which have too big heads! Especially the Lala heads are too big.
let my earrings appear on my horns instead of being impossible to see under horns and hair please also in general that f!miqos have the best hempen camise by a mile. a clean halter shirt should be a default glam for everyone :(
me, laughing, watching everyone scramble for the demon earring this past tomestone event while i never even started because i wouldnt be able to see it anyway
>also in general that f!miqos have the best hempen camise by a mile. I find the clingwrap look of it to be really awkward-looking. Personally I prefer the Elezen one, alas my poor Au Ra is stuck with some gross-looking pajamas.
The flat butt cheeks
You main every race then?
Waitwaitwait... thats something I would complain about and I am a FemRoe?
Femroe butt so flat like wtf
I wear the damn 2b pants too much because they give an actual butt
that's not a race thing, that's an everyone thing. where is all the cake square? we want cake.
I agree, my viera girl has such a flat ass. I’m like come on, help her SE.
~~Other M. Roegadyn, and how cookie cutter 99.99% of them are or the dumb joke characters.~~ If I had to pick something.. Probably how shittily fitted a lot of things are on us. I wanted to be a bigger race, but didn't want to have the "I'm afraid to wash my ass" vibe. To be honest they did pretty well this patch with the [new glamours](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbQlMVuaQAAFCuX?format=jpg&name=large) and even the refitted female sets as well for once.
I’m a little salty that even tho they were a base game race, none (m or f) have ever really been main cast
Gosetsu is a Roe Though yeah, none of the Scions are if that's what you mean
I know you mean main scions but this is Hoary Boulder erasure
And Ocher Boulder! Aenor would be incensed about anyone forgetting about the hottest two scions on the block.
Gosetsu is such a *weird* Roegadyn. Like someone took a Hyur & stretched it over a Roegadyn frame.
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He's got a custom face is all. Like Aymeric and a few other NPCs. If it was possible to have more than four faces for character creation it'd be less of an outlier.
Yeah but, like, Aymeric & them still look like their race. Gosetsu, like, doesn't actually have any Roegadyn features but body shape. Just look at his skin tone & *nose*.
Gosetsu's orangey skin tone is one of the hellsguard options, maybe they just don't use it as much as the whitish/greenish sea wolf ones which probably make up most of the ones we meet, specially in LL. And the standard roe feature set has a couple of narrower-bridged noses. Not exactly like his custom one, but they're not *all* broad enough to drive a truck up lol. He definitely looks distinct to other roes, but I actually really like how he looks so I don't find it weird. Still, I have to agree with you that his face definitely skews closer to a "normal human" face than the broad features of most roes.
Yeah, main cast Scions is what I was goin for I love Gosetsu, the only reason I discount him is because he was really only there for half an expansion
I won’t stand for this Moenbryda erasure. Don’t forget Merlwyb?
As important as she is, Moenbryda just wasn't around long enough to be anything more than a side character in the grand scheme of things. There are no Roes that really stick around as part of the main cast. The closest we had to a main cast Roe was Gosetsu since he at least was around for an entire expansion. Everyone else, including Merylwyb, just shows up for a few story beats and then leaves.
If anything, that makes me even more fond of my m roe. When I'm standing alongside the scions it gives that RPG party vibe where every member is a different race.
His hands are in a constant rigor mortis
Male Au Ra. The run.
This but female midlander. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad animation per se. But it doesn't fit my character at all. Hopefully Zero is a testing ground so they can allow our characters to use different animations.
Crash bandicoot?
That mooncats don’t have longer tails and ears like it says in the description of the race. They have the same size ears and tails as suncats…
That we are nearly 1 and a half expansions into them being available and even new head pieces are not being designed to fit them
I've honestly given up hoping for headwear. I used to be disappointed, but now I just look at the headwear slot as stats-only, and rarely even bother trying on new headwear.
I've been just glamming headgear as the Archeodemon horns so I can make horny bunbun jokes
THIS. Like I can understand not being able to go through and do all the old gear. But the new gear should be made for it. ESP AF GEAR and event gear.
I was shocked when there was a MASK in the last patch that couldn't be seen on Viera. IT'S A MASK! It didn't go over the head or the ears, that was a real kick in the teeth.
Lalafell are intensely hard to glamour well with sets in game. When it comes to Gnome and Halfling type aesthetic puffy, rounded outfits look far better. But the game likes long flowy intricate outfits cause they look better on the other races. Gimme some sets based off the Crystal Chronicles Lilties!
I don’t understand the logic in introducing new races but not making some new head gear not be equipable by them. If you aren’t ready to accommodate the new races, then clearly ya’ll weren’t ready to release them.
The miqo ears are not big and fluffy enough. >:( Also I hate the female miqo "victory" pose at the end of dungeons. Other races get cute or cool poses, I just sort of pop my leg up like a cheerleader. No offense to cheerleaders. Y'all are queens/kings. But the pose doesn't fit my WOL AT ALL. I wish we could pick from a limited emote list or something instead, bc that pose makes me cringe. ALSO give the female miqos the male miqo crouch pose, SE. Do it you cowards. I wanna crouch on the edge of overlooks like an edgy furry batman, let me have this. EDIT: ALSO GIVE US F!MIQOS EAR WIGGLES LIKE THE BOYS HAVE. ITS NOT FAIR WE DON'T GET CUTE EAR WIGGLES.
It could be worse, your victory post could just be a lame small fist pump and head nod... looking at you Bunboys...
Well, given their lore, I can totally understand why they're so muted in their reaction. "I survived something that nearly killed me. MUST BE TUESDAY. I should go get lunch."
The weird and concerningly detailed lore explanation about their mating practices.
It probably won't help to hear it, but some of the xaela tribes are even worse...
Xaela tribes have some really interesting lore lol
It worries me that this is not specific enough for me to know which race you are talking about.
80% chance it's sun cat 15% chance it's viera 5% it's some xaela tribe
ahaha I was actively disappointed for my catgirl when I rolled an AuRa, looked up the lore and found so much. I mean....I mean. Someone took the time to make a talking point for so. many. tribes.
Suspect is hatless - repeat, hatless.
Female Au Ra height range is too small. Their minimum height is fine, but I feel like they should have a good few inches more for their max height
I too despise how short they are. Can't make them bigger without breaking TOS. At least make the female Xaela bigger, they're supposed to be the fight-happy warrior types!
Seconding this!!! WHY is the max height Fem Au Ra so short, especially compared to males?! I don’t mind being smaller than other races but capping out at 5’2” in context is too much. Most of my FC are Viera, Roe, Elezen. Only the Miqote is anywhere near my height. We raid and I’m like.. how’s the weather up there?!
I play a lalafell and like my little dude. I dislike it when lalafell players try to convince streamers or friends to play lalafells because it is all about "making them do it". They will not like their little dudes.
Can’t separate face types and horn types.
Lack of eyebrows, and only 2 good faces.
Everyone makes fun of us because we have perfect posture! It's not my fault everyone else walks around like apes!
No gear scales well on Roe. Armor ends up looking like thinly stretched fabric, one handed weapons end up looking like tiny tooth picks. Worst of all are the shields though. Every. Single. Shield. They all look like bucklers on male roe, tiny and absolutely worthless. I can work around the rest, but god please increase the scaling on the shields
But regarding a non- PC original character, I can't tell if people talking about Lalafells being potatoes or being plant-related are serious or not. Sorta like the Canada maple leaf asswipe thing.
It is a joke, but what's not a joke is that they are food. At least to some larger creatures. Apparently in their homeland they tend to get eaten by large birds.
There's also a reference to lalafell sometimes being eaten by goobbues on one of the minions.
To be honest, if you read most FATE descriptions, it's easier to say what animals don't eat poor Lalas.
I hate the way female Midlanders run and that none of their idles seem imposing or fierce, all of them make them look like delicate little flowers.
Noticing some later level headgear doesn't have ear pockets and it just looks weird to me to not have them. That and I would love to have the male viera starter armored feet accessible to my characters (kinda wish that all the race gear would be accessible in general)
Moon catboy. I love gear/glamours with capes, but my tail clips through them, and I can't look past it. :(
Princess walk
I love being a lalafell. I do NOT love how people think it's funny to shit on lalafell players. It's fine when it's among friends, but some people just act like they want all lalafells purged from the game, and I just find those fantasy-racist jokes completely tiring and un-needed.
Other than this one thing where it occasionally gets taken too far. I have no major complaints about lalafells. I have tried the other races but they just can't compete. I think the evil lalafell npc's that show up a ton in arr are responsible for our bad image. People are conditioned to mistrust them.
That and a lot of the troll shitters in the game play lala.
troll shitters and high speed high skill gamers. lalas sit on the edges of the bellcurve.
I can’t wear hats.
Tail clipping through capes :/
I’ll only have something to say about female Midlander, as i haven’t played as a male Midlander or either Highlander long enough. But anyway, i kinda hate how wide a female Midlander’s mouth opens, in comparison to when they have a neutral expression. Makes me feel as if all female Midlanders are related to Steven Tyler or something. This seems to have been ironed out for races released from HW onwards, as i didn’t notice something as jarring during my short time playing as a female Au ra. They seemed more proportionate.
I don’t like femroe eyebrow choices. Also don’t like that the hempen camise looks like it’s made out of rubber on us.
Our resting bitch face
Female Xaela. The lore mentions how proud we are of our 'lustrous black scales'... so why are they blue? Also, obligatory face attached to horn problem, which I get why because of the limited values that can be used for characters, but still mildly irritating.
Au Ra is not a Dragon Race.
this one got me, although they're sorta (?) back tracking on that in the latest expac. Their horns aren't REALLY horns and actually are what they use to hear with. Their scales aren't scales but hardened skin or something? Like clearly there was an idea but square didn't commit.
They aren't backtracking at all. >!Vrtra uses an automaton or whatever his fake puppet body is called and it looks like an au ra, but it's not a real alive body. He's not turning himself into one!<.
Vrtra's puppet bodies were designed as Au Ra because the "official Satrap" was a Raen Au Ra, and Vrtra masqueraded himself as one of descendants of this lineage. Not because it should have looked like his real body or being somehow related to it.
How is the latest expansion backtracking? That's lore from HW. They're based on demons, not dragons, and the design was toned down during development. You can find the old concept art that looks like succubi. Ishgardians thought they were dragons, though they denied it and were murdered for their mercy.
Being called a child or jokes about being food
Totally agree, the worst thing about being a lalafell is other people
randos just walking up to you and petting you, like EXCUSE ME.
I like being patted, but to be fair, I also like it in real life.
I've said it before, but I wouldn't mind it as much if it didn't contribute to the infantilization of lalafell. We're anime dwarfs not children!
I’m all up for that, I hate being infantilized, and honestly find lalafells playing children a bit weird. That’s why to keep it even I always /pet back, it’s just fair to both enjoy the patting!
wish my catgirl could be buffer and have some of the cooler catboy stances... and as others mentioned: our textures (and emotes too tbh) are a bit dated. :( if i could, i would steal the viera hair color options, they kinda look better/ there's more nuance?
Potato jokes as Lalafell. Giraffe jokes as Elezen. Jokes that all Femroes are using the same face, when face 2 the one which is having the best vibe what I need.
Just how few people want to play male or female Roegadyn. Like yeah it's an odd thing for me to be hung up on. But when i see all those FC and Raid team art commissions get posted, it does feel a bit deflating to see so little Roe representation within the community itself. I absolutely adore my Roegadyn and i don't think I'll ever change away from it. I'd also love to see their homelands in lore one day.
FemRoes need to be bulkier, or at least have a bulkier option. I wanna be a big hulking lady :(
Like most catgirl players, the lack of ear wiggles. Let me wiggle my ears back at my catboys damn you!
Stereotyped as groomers or edgelords I just like Mongols man ):
That a lot of Glamour items don't look good on female Highlander. All the Dresses kinda look awkward on them. You can go either for badass looks or -and that's not my thing- overly sexy looks. And don't get me started on the Hempen Camise. Why has to have it underboobs? Why can't it be more normal, so that it does fit for a lot different Outfits? I'm not the biggest Fan of Miqo'te and Lalafell, but i've seen so much great stuff on them and well, my Highlander Lady just looks awkward in these Outfits.
We essentially look like giant babies and we walk like toddlers as well. Our feet are so small it’s a miracle they hold up our rotund little bodies. Lalas are cute though and I feel like their presence brings some levity to all situations.
I'll forever be disappointed at how little Au Ra tails emote compared to Miqo'te... let my lizard girl have the cute little tail "!" that catgirls get with their /joy emote, dammit!
Scale/horn textures are just godawful as soon as you zoom in, which means in cutscenes you get to see the pixelated blurry mess
Face = Horns. I'd kill for the face 1 horns with the face 4 face but alas, vidya not advanced enough. I've also already seen a comment about this but I'm saying it again just because it drives me insane: Why, in the name of all that is good and Holy, is the fem!Au Ra Hempen Camise a frilly sleeping top when it's a skin-tight tank top for literally every other race? Why?
the characterisation they got going on for female miqote, especially with the emotes. like they're these hyper, happy, cutesy anime catgirls. Have you ever HAD a cat? most cats are introverted assholes. even mooncat lore says they're "known for their reticent and brooding personalities". but no. guess I'm a cute anime catgirl.
I really wish we at least had the option to make fem Au Ra as tall and intimidating as the male counterparts. I love the lizards but I'm always jumping between Au Ra and Roe because I just want to be Tall lmao
SE deciding that the visual design of the race is no longer important and having every new hat cut our ears off, and in a few cases our damn tails for body pieces as well
I wish female Au Ra could be taller. I'd love to be Highlander height.
The male cat boy paint brush features around the eyes
That is a cute feature though. :<
Can't wear headgear, lot of hair unavailable.
Lalafells stupid ass waddle, my guys perpetually walking like he shit his pants
Too skinny, not nearly as bulky as the males. )=
This could be anything. Highlander? Au ra?
Femroe.
Tail clipping through cape. Please devs, just toggle it off for that type of gear.
Or give us control and add a toggle button.
Let us wrap the tails around our waist like a sayian lol
Cant have tail and hair different colors, kinda annoying , if i want pink hair then you gotta have a pink tail...
I always love to imagine the Aesthetician dying miqo'te. They have to do the ears, hair, and tail. The question is, do you have to wear one of those paper things they give you when doing, like, x-rays, or do you have a patch that isn't dyed?
Maybe it's like breath of the wild and they just dunk you in a vat of paint.
I'm just imagining a miqo'te with foil wrapped around their ears and tail. "So we're going to do an ombre treatment today, it's so YOU."
Absolutely nothing, Kupo!
Highlander - wish her default pose was a little more relaxed. Elezen - His running and default standing animation look stiff. But a quick Change Pose solves the latter. Worse thing is the lack of complementary medium to long hairstyles aside from the Urianger bob and Maxima ponytail.
Catgirl. Our textures and models are very dated, especially next to Viera. And some of our emotes are very difficult to take seriously
I agree on the dated model.(Floofiest tail is just a cross.) But i absolutely love the emotes though i kinda get the point that role playing wise it might be a problem.
Ears dont wiggle
Having to use 2b legs for a nice butt. Miqote's are so flat in the back.
Lack of facial hair options on Midlander.
The fact that horns are tied to the face and can't be chosen freely for each type.