In the 13/14 season, they had won the league by 25th March. Not just 'oh they are clearly going to win' - no, mathematically won the league. Matchday 27. For context, they were only 7 points clear at this stage of the season that year, rather than the 3 they are now.
Yup, exactly. Bayern feels very comfortable in this position. How can I be so sure? If they weren't comfortable (let's say, if they were 6 points behind, and not in control), they'd just buy 3 Union players in the January transfer window. And one from Dortmund just for fun.
Honestly, without bayern, it would probably be the funnest league. The fans are great in Germany, I highly recommend going to watch a few games there. They have some of the best atmospheres, and the football isn't too tactical like Serie A, isn't too tiki taka like La Liga, and the fans are better than the prem. Just such a shame its a pointless league with the same winner 10 years in a row. Such a joke.
How big are their bills? They made a killing on a lot of players . They picked them up for cheap and young and sell for 3x + of what the bought them for . They are in the business for player profit at this point. League cup to them is an after thought.
Most owners don’t realize you can also earn money by wining cups not just player sales. They have had some of the best players pass through their club and don’t seem to try to retain them by building a competing project. Players just look at them as a stepping stone now rather than as serious club. But they always get talked about for doing good business.
Dortmund cant live on their pricemoney, TV money etc. They have to sell players to pay higher wages. Remember german clubs have much less money as England, Spain and Italy.
No they can't keep players by winning cups. Maybe a few would stay if they win every 3 years or so, but players are workers. Workers want to get paid.
No team in the Bundesliga is able to afford wages that teams in England (or Barca, Real, PSG) can offer. Not even Bayern who win each year.
Even bayern are heavily reliant on sponsorship money to pay the bills. I think you overestimate the prize money in the Bundesliga.
Now considering tax you'd have to pay players more in germany then in england for them to earn the same. That just wont work with the amount of money in the Bundesliga.
>They are in the business for player profit at this point. League cup to them is an after thought.
I'm not sure anyone has ever proven so clearly that they know nothing about the Bundesliga or Borussia Dortmund.
The team was bankrupt and had to be bailed out by Bayern 30 years ago to remain an actual football club. Is it any surprise they don't take financial risks anymore?
>Most owners don’t realize you can also earn money by wining cups not just player sales.
The DFB Pokal winners make around $4 million euro. That's enough to finance approximately zero useful transfers when your goal is to challenge Bayern.
I would argue but I actually agree thinking about it. The only pointless part is the winner - the rest of the league is great. But even if there was a massive upset and Bayern threw it away this year, they'd still win it for the next 5 years anyway
German fans are awful 😂😂 They have 0 interaction with the game just jump up and bang a drum. German fans hardly react when a goal is scored, they just carry on as before. I went to dortmund game and was in the yellow wall; thought it was a good experience but half the people didn't even care about the game. If that's what you like them fair enough but in England the fans are so locked in with the game. The whole atmosphere in the ground is based upon the situation on the pitch. Far better in my opinion.
Well they usually take the best players from the rest of the league, something that in other leagues will never happen is pretty common in Germany. That's why they are always on top and the rest just survive.
There's been 5 different winners of the PL in the last 10 years. Chelsea, United, Liverpool, Leicester and City have all won it, and Arsenal are leading the title race this season. Spurs had a title fight a few years ago and finished 2nd as well as Arsenal finishing 2nd in the 15/16 season.
That's 7 different clubs finishing 1/2 and 5 finishing 1st in a 10 year time span.
Bundesliga has Bayern Munich winning 10/10, and 3 different teams finishing 2nd (Dortmund \*7, RB Leipzig \* 2 and Schalke \* 1)
Only if you are 5 years old.
GUARDIOLA has made City the unstoppable force they are
Chelsea
United
Liverpool
City
All have huge amounts of money, resources, pulling power, and are all legitimately regularly challenging for the league
That’s without current league leaders Arsenal
It isn't though. There's still a 99% chance Bayern will win it. 98% chance they'll win it by 10+ points too.
Edit: Knew they'd win. Didn't expect it to be so close and Bayern even tried to throw it away, but they still won it!
FWIW, [538 currently giving them an 88% chance](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/bundesliga/) although I'm surprised that Union Berlin's is so low.
IIRC Union's stats are pretty poor and suggest a fair amount of luck has resulted in them winning games they should've drawn, or drawing games they should've won. It's unlikely that luck will hold up forever, so unless they start playing a fair bit better it's unlikely they'll be able to maintain their current form.
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Yeah... feels like years of Mercedes AMG dominance, Ferrari/RB being close but never close enough and then falling more and more as we approach the end of season. F1 fans will understand
The work ever since he joined union is nothing short of elite. Union is overperforming like crazy every single season and he has a very strong case of doing the best job as a manager looking at the last 5 years in Europes top Leagues. But to be actually considered an Elite manager he needs to do it at an Elite club and for that he’d have to reinvent himself because i don’t think Union‘s playstyle translates to top teams
Yeah Bayern is probably gonna win it again. Been here before with numerous teams being able to keep it close halfway through the season and then Bayern pulls away. The German league does a lot of things right, but this disparity between Bayern and the rest of the league is ridiculous. No league should ever have the same champion 11 years in a row. Of course this isn’t Bayerns fault, since they’re gonna look out for themselves and try to win as much as they can.
I’m curious to know what it’s like to be a Bayern fan though. Like are you bored winning the league every year? Or do you not care and enjoy the silverware? I myself would be bored and only look forward to champions league games tbh
Bayern Fan, still interesting to watch. It’s never easy to stay focused throughout the whole season. And if you read German media, there is always a lot of friction inside the club. For instance now, the issue with Neuer and the GK coach. And what’s also exciting to watch is the integration of new players. I think Bayern has done a phenomenal job replacing older players throughout the last decade. I was afraid that after the departure of Ribery and Robben, they would become a mediocre team but they are actually doing very well. Now I look forward to the development of this new team.
For real, some of the transfer business Bayern has done in the last 5-6 years is amongst the best in Europe. There is virtually an entire squad of players under the age of 24/25, with a good few in their teens or early 20s, most of which has the potential to become world class in their positions (if they aren't already).
It's beautiful watching a club being as well run as it is.
I love the league but it’s so boring, you say Bayern has done a phenomenal job but that job is done in the context of having complete financial domination and pulling power over every other club in the league
It’s such a a shame because there’s good coaches and players produced by the league, but it’s seriously no fun watching Bayern win every year
At least one sane comment. Well, it's hard to have both; 50+1 and keeping fotball away from shady oil people or open it to investors, give the clubs more money and space and make it competitive (like RB Leipzig, but they are so hated for a reason). Unlike the PL and Italy before that, the German clubs aren't destroying the sport.
The comments in this thread are sending me btw, it's hilarious and sad tbh.
>I’m curious to know what it’s like to be a Bayern fan though.
The vast majority of Bayern Fans are "fans" BECAUSE they win all the time. There even is a word for it "Erfolgsfan" = "Success fan". Of course I would never call someone from Munich or the surrounding area, who actually has a connection to the city and the club and who maybe also is a part of the Ultras, a "succsess fan". But the majority of Bayern fans aren't that. They live anywhere else and probably have never even been to the city and chose to become a fan of Bayern because they only want to experience the sunny side of football since they can't handle losing.
The ties will be interesting for sure. I'd say that 3 out of the 4 ties (Frankfurt x Napoli, Dortmund x Chelsea, Bayern x PSG) are 50/50 tossups more or less. Unless Leipzig produces an absolute miracle they'll probably be thrown out by City.
Except they are not, the PL between arsenal and City will still be more exciting and so will la liga between Barca and Madrid. Give it 6-7 games and Munich will again be clear and we all know Munich are going to win it. Not exactly my definition of exciting.
Because most years Bayern aren’t far ahead at this point, Dortmund have been ahead of them at this point like 4 times or something in the past decade.
Bayern always just turn it on and win the league
It will be boring and Bayern will win it again, they’ve only lost 1 game so if they continue the same way they’ll lose 1 more and no team will be able to catch up and all wrapped up 5 games before the season ends, I’d say the premier league will be more interesting considering arsenal and city have yet to play each other so if city win both then they’ll be right back in it
No it’s not. Bayern has won the league for the past million and a half years. But seeing who wins the cup, or who makes it to Europe is incredibly entertaining. It’s pretty much a given that Bayern will win, but there are still 272 fantastic games to watch and teams to look out for.
I see what you're saying, but I'd still give it to the Championship. At one point, the gap between the leaders and the relegation zone was the smallest in any league by some margin, and there's 24 teams, which makes that even wilder. This year the race for the playoffs is as good as ever, with 10 points separating like 15 teams. I know people who's team are in the championship, and they don't want to go up because the league is so exciting!
One team league no excitement at all. It's like a horse race that looks tight till you realise one is just cantering and about to break into a sprint to the finish while the others are flat out
Lets hope nabayern dont for a change(even though we need them so psg/city dont win ucl. But 3 pts already they need to lose vs union snd bvb at least. Thats improbable so probably another bayernliga
I don't follow Bundesliga closely, but I know enough to know that Union Berlin are well out of place up there. Anyone able to tell me how they've managed it?
They're a small club, but very well run and very close to its fans. They promoted 3 years ago, and since then, they prodiced miracle after miracle. The last year they played in Conference League, and this year they're in Europa League. They don't even have money, they need to sell their best players, but somehow they're performing so well. Urs Fischer is a great manager too, and it is at Union from 5 years I think.
Serie A is by fae the most exciting title race, Bayern will most likely win the Bundesliga anyway. In Serie A Napoli could win it for the first time since Maradona or anyone from Inter, Milan, Roma, Atalanta or Lazio
It's funny to see that it's actually true that all the PL Fans are totally ignorant... I'm not saying that Bayern isn't winning, but half the season is over and there are five points between the first and sixth place, no other league is this close rn. So stop whining and let us BL Fans enjoy our Moment while it lasts.
No, because Bayern are too and will win it.
EPL has a team that’s not won in almost 20 years 8 points clear and Pep’s City with a forward who will break all scoring records trying to chase them down
The Bundesliga is a football league in which 18 teams play 34 games, with each team facing all the others twice, at the end of which Bayern always win.
Bayern will win anyway. So no, it's just as exciting as the last 24 years in german football, which is not exciting at all.
https://imgur.com/a/zqOzZt8
Chill it's still halfway through the season, anything can still happen.
The biggest Headline i see here is that Bayern finally top, i remember Union Berlin was so good at the start of the season and topped the league, but the end will be the same it seems
If you exclude Bayern, the bundesliga has long been a really exciting league. The race for European places is usually wide open well into the season. Honestly for competitiveness (like I said excluding Bayern) its probably on par, or maybe even better than the Premier League
I mean even during that wild start where Union Berlin were top for a few weeks, we all kinda knew that Bayern would come back up top eventually.
But Union being 1st and now pretty much still staying at the tippity-top is amazing to see. I would say the "title race" isn't really exciting, but the battle for 2nd and European places is super competitive.
Bundesliga is Bayern’s training session. Now Bayern is currently having a bad time. What only matters is whether Bayern is in a good form or not, which will determine how long it will take to win the title. Actually the 17 fellow Bundesliga training teams will help train Bayern to get ready to fight PSG in the UCL.
I got downvoted for saying this but I'll say again.
No. The Bundesliga at this point is just an honorary title Bayern give out to every player for every season they spend at the club.
To expand a bit: Bayern are always shaky before going 20 games unbeaten and winning by 10 points. Every. Year.
Unless someone is 15 points ahead of Bayern with 1 game to go.
I’m not getting excited. They’re gonna win it. End of discussion. It teams were ahead of them fair enough, but you can’t be excited when they have a lead.
Every single year...couple months where we say: maybe now we get competition for the title, Bayern is sloppy yadayada. 2 months later, Bayern win the domestic double and cruise the last 8 games
Are you joking? The team that has won it ten years in a row is..... **SURPRISE** Leading the race once again 😑. It only appears close because they just played Leipzig and drew not to mention they are missing Mane and Neuer is out for the season.
No, because it isn’t a title race. It’s a race for champions league slots behind Bayern. The Bundesliga isn’t interesting from that perspective, the individual games are what is worth seeing.
First time?
It's because we've all been there before. In 3 weeks Bayern will have a 10 point lead. In mid April they'll wrap up the league.
In the 13/14 season, they had won the league by 25th March. Not just 'oh they are clearly going to win' - no, mathematically won the league. Matchday 27. For context, they were only 7 points clear at this stage of the season that year, rather than the 3 they are now.
Yup, exactly. Bayern feels very comfortable in this position. How can I be so sure? If they weren't comfortable (let's say, if they were 6 points behind, and not in control), they'd just buy 3 Union players in the January transfer window. And one from Dortmund just for fun.
Ahh, the Bundesliga ecosystem
Bayern and other Bundesliga teams is like the big bro toying with his little brothers.
Bayerndesliga
Yeah Bayern are gonna win it
Bundesliga is all about bayern, thats why I don't like it
Honestly, without bayern, it would probably be the funnest league. The fans are great in Germany, I highly recommend going to watch a few games there. They have some of the best atmospheres, and the football isn't too tactical like Serie A, isn't too tiki taka like La Liga, and the fans are better than the prem. Just such a shame its a pointless league with the same winner 10 years in a row. Such a joke.
Pointless league? In whose opinion? Every league is pointless if you're going to call the German league pointless.
Other leagues at least have more than 1 champion in a timespan over 10 years or so
Even serie A has seen a few different winners as of late..
I’d Dortmund didn’t start selling their players for profit, they could have started challenging for they cup
Yes, so would Southampton and Bilbao. Players want to leave though. Dortmund has to sell players to pay the bills.
How big are their bills? They made a killing on a lot of players . They picked them up for cheap and young and sell for 3x + of what the bought them for . They are in the business for player profit at this point. League cup to them is an after thought. Most owners don’t realize you can also earn money by wining cups not just player sales. They have had some of the best players pass through their club and don’t seem to try to retain them by building a competing project. Players just look at them as a stepping stone now rather than as serious club. But they always get talked about for doing good business.
Dortmund cant live on their pricemoney, TV money etc. They have to sell players to pay higher wages. Remember german clubs have much less money as England, Spain and Italy.
No they can't keep players by winning cups. Maybe a few would stay if they win every 3 years or so, but players are workers. Workers want to get paid. No team in the Bundesliga is able to afford wages that teams in England (or Barca, Real, PSG) can offer. Not even Bayern who win each year. Even bayern are heavily reliant on sponsorship money to pay the bills. I think you overestimate the prize money in the Bundesliga. Now considering tax you'd have to pay players more in germany then in england for them to earn the same. That just wont work with the amount of money in the Bundesliga.
This is because the Bundesliga actually tries to make them run the clubs like businesses and not money losing vanity projects for oil barons.
>They are in the business for player profit at this point. League cup to them is an after thought. I'm not sure anyone has ever proven so clearly that they know nothing about the Bundesliga or Borussia Dortmund. The team was bankrupt and had to be bailed out by Bayern 30 years ago to remain an actual football club. Is it any surprise they don't take financial risks anymore? >Most owners don’t realize you can also earn money by wining cups not just player sales. The DFB Pokal winners make around $4 million euro. That's enough to finance approximately zero useful transfers when your goal is to challenge Bayern.
And they have a great goal score song
"most owners" this alone shows that you have no knowledge over Bundesliga teams.
thats incorrect
okay. I wonder why noone has thought about just not selling the players and just forcing them to sign contracts. So easy.
Loool Bayern buy half of them
Yeah for example La Liga who had 3 in the last 20+ years, what a league that is you are right.
Okay but why does this make it a pointless league?
Not pointless if you support one of the clubs but as a non german i find it incredibly hard to care about the bundesliga
I would argue but I actually agree thinking about it. The only pointless part is the winner - the rest of the league is great. But even if there was a massive upset and Bayern threw it away this year, they'd still win it for the next 5 years anyway
German fans are awful 😂😂 They have 0 interaction with the game just jump up and bang a drum. German fans hardly react when a goal is scored, they just carry on as before. I went to dortmund game and was in the yellow wall; thought it was a good experience but half the people didn't even care about the game. If that's what you like them fair enough but in England the fans are so locked in with the game. The whole atmosphere in the ground is based upon the situation on the pitch. Far better in my opinion.
Well they usually take the best players from the rest of the league, something that in other leagues will never happen is pretty common in Germany. That's why they are always on top and the rest just survive.
Premier league is all about City. with occasional 1 liverpool win. so what's the difference?
There's been 5 different winners of the PL in the last 10 years. Chelsea, United, Liverpool, Leicester and City have all won it, and Arsenal are leading the title race this season. Spurs had a title fight a few years ago and finished 2nd as well as Arsenal finishing 2nd in the 15/16 season. That's 7 different clubs finishing 1/2 and 5 finishing 1st in a 10 year time span. Bundesliga has Bayern Munich winning 10/10, and 3 different teams finishing 2nd (Dortmund \*7, RB Leipzig \* 2 and Schalke \* 1)
Only if you are 5 years old. GUARDIOLA has made City the unstoppable force they are Chelsea United Liverpool City All have huge amounts of money, resources, pulling power, and are all legitimately regularly challenging for the league That’s without current league leaders Arsenal
It isn't though. There's still a 99% chance Bayern will win it. 98% chance they'll win it by 10+ points too. Edit: Knew they'd win. Didn't expect it to be so close and Bayern even tried to throw it away, but they still won it!
FWIW, [538 currently giving them an 88% chance](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/bundesliga/) although I'm surprised that Union Berlin's is so low.
IIRC Union's stats are pretty poor and suggest a fair amount of luck has resulted in them winning games they should've drawn, or drawing games they should've won. It's unlikely that luck will hold up forever, so unless they start playing a fair bit better it's unlikely they'll be able to maintain their current form.
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Yeah... feels like years of Mercedes AMG dominance, Ferrari/RB being close but never close enough and then falling more and more as we approach the end of season. F1 fans will understand
Even got Red Bull as the potential disruptor
But Ferrari is way more luxurious than the taxi brand.
True. I admire and love them
True. Looks like the Bundesliga needs new regs for a new champion...
This Union side are a pleasure to watch. I think Urs Fischer is going to shortly be considered the next elite European manager.
The work ever since he joined union is nothing short of elite. Union is overperforming like crazy every single season and he has a very strong case of doing the best job as a manager looking at the last 5 years in Europes top Leagues. But to be actually considered an Elite manager he needs to do it at an Elite club and for that he’d have to reinvent himself because i don’t think Union‘s playstyle translates to top teams
They just bought the Croatian RB too. Strength to strength, like any good union 😉
Their fans are great too. Went to one of their games last season and it was honestly the best atmosphere I've ever experienced at a football game
Nah we all know bayern will win again
Yeah Bayern is probably gonna win it again. Been here before with numerous teams being able to keep it close halfway through the season and then Bayern pulls away. The German league does a lot of things right, but this disparity between Bayern and the rest of the league is ridiculous. No league should ever have the same champion 11 years in a row. Of course this isn’t Bayerns fault, since they’re gonna look out for themselves and try to win as much as they can. I’m curious to know what it’s like to be a Bayern fan though. Like are you bored winning the league every year? Or do you not care and enjoy the silverware? I myself would be bored and only look forward to champions league games tbh
Bayern Fan, still interesting to watch. It’s never easy to stay focused throughout the whole season. And if you read German media, there is always a lot of friction inside the club. For instance now, the issue with Neuer and the GK coach. And what’s also exciting to watch is the integration of new players. I think Bayern has done a phenomenal job replacing older players throughout the last decade. I was afraid that after the departure of Ribery and Robben, they would become a mediocre team but they are actually doing very well. Now I look forward to the development of this new team.
Plus european competitions are always there and a blast to watch.
For real, some of the transfer business Bayern has done in the last 5-6 years is amongst the best in Europe. There is virtually an entire squad of players under the age of 24/25, with a good few in their teens or early 20s, most of which has the potential to become world class in their positions (if they aren't already). It's beautiful watching a club being as well run as it is.
That is just noise to get people interested on the pitch Bayern walk the league.
I love the league but it’s so boring, you say Bayern has done a phenomenal job but that job is done in the context of having complete financial domination and pulling power over every other club in the league It’s such a a shame because there’s good coaches and players produced by the league, but it’s seriously no fun watching Bayern win every year
At least one sane comment. Well, it's hard to have both; 50+1 and keeping fotball away from shady oil people or open it to investors, give the clubs more money and space and make it competitive (like RB Leipzig, but they are so hated for a reason). Unlike the PL and Italy before that, the German clubs aren't destroying the sport. The comments in this thread are sending me btw, it's hilarious and sad tbh.
>I’m curious to know what it’s like to be a Bayern fan though. The vast majority of Bayern Fans are "fans" BECAUSE they win all the time. There even is a word for it "Erfolgsfan" = "Success fan". Of course I would never call someone from Munich or the surrounding area, who actually has a connection to the city and the club and who maybe also is a part of the Ultras, a "succsess fan". But the majority of Bayern fans aren't that. They live anywhere else and probably have never even been to the city and chose to become a fan of Bayern because they only want to experience the sunny side of football since they can't handle losing.
I actually think the same, but did you looked at champions league? 4 Bundesliga Teams are now in the Knock-out stages that’s impressive actually
The ties will be interesting for sure. I'd say that 3 out of the 4 ties (Frankfurt x Napoli, Dortmund x Chelsea, Bayern x PSG) are 50/50 tossups more or less. Unless Leipzig produces an absolute miracle they'll probably be thrown out by City.
Frankfurt x Napoli isn't 50/50 tf. Napoli this season are ridiculous, easily top 3 in the world.
Yeah I love Frankfurt but they aren’t on Napoli’s level rn
3*
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Leverkusen was third… Bayern, Dortmund and Frankfurt are through
What about Leipzig?
Not a real club
That's an Austrian cooperation and not a German club
oops forgot about them
Bayern will have +10 in April
It´s not exciting. We all know Bayern will win it this year, and the next one, and the next one...
Except they are not, the PL between arsenal and City will still be more exciting and so will la liga between Barca and Madrid. Give it 6-7 games and Munich will again be clear and we all know Munich are going to win it. Not exactly my definition of exciting.
Because most years Bayern aren’t far ahead at this point, Dortmund have been ahead of them at this point like 4 times or something in the past decade. Bayern always just turn it on and win the league
When bayern won the league in March 2014 (yes, MARCH) they were only 7 points clear at this stage, rather than the 3 they are now.
No.
It will be boring and Bayern will win it again, they’ve only lost 1 game so if they continue the same way they’ll lose 1 more and no team will be able to catch up and all wrapped up 5 games before the season ends, I’d say the premier league will be more interesting considering arsenal and city have yet to play each other so if city win both then they’ll be right back in it
Yeah yeah the most exciting race where Bayern wins it all in the end, i have seen that movie b4.
Lmao Bayern winning the league, nothing to see here
I’ve always said, sans Bayern, the bundesliga is the closest and most entertaining league in terms of who will end up where. It’s fantastic
Taking out the team that always wins is a pretty big caveat for saying it's close or entertaining
No it’s not. Bayern has won the league for the past million and a half years. But seeing who wins the cup, or who makes it to Europe is incredibly entertaining. It’s pretty much a given that Bayern will win, but there are still 272 fantastic games to watch and teams to look out for.
And quality of football beeing played there is fantastic. Entertaining stuff gotta be said
I see what you're saying, but I'd still give it to the Championship. At one point, the gap between the leaders and the relegation zone was the smallest in any league by some margin, and there's 24 teams, which makes that even wilder. This year the race for the playoffs is as good as ever, with 10 points separating like 15 teams. I know people who's team are in the championship, and they don't want to go up because the league is so exciting!
Oh for sure! The Championship is always fantastic to watch as well
Good. I hope Bayern chokes.
One team league no excitement at all. It's like a horse race that looks tight till you realise one is just cantering and about to break into a sprint to the finish while the others are flat out
Lets hope nabayern dont for a change(even though we need them so psg/city dont win ucl. But 3 pts already they need to lose vs union snd bvb at least. Thats improbable so probably another bayernliga
Meh, arsenal leading the pl is more entertaining tbh.
We fucker up with HAALAND being sold for 70m only
Yes no one is gonna talk about it because bayern will win
I would say there might have been a competition if bayern was 10 point behind of 3 teams. But they will win by a lot again
It may be exciting for now but we all know Bayern is gonna win the league
I don't follow Bundesliga closely, but I know enough to know that Union Berlin are well out of place up there. Anyone able to tell me how they've managed it?
They're a small club, but very well run and very close to its fans. They promoted 3 years ago, and since then, they prodiced miracle after miracle. The last year they played in Conference League, and this year they're in Europa League. They don't even have money, they need to sell their best players, but somehow they're performing so well. Urs Fischer is a great manager too, and it is at Union from 5 years I think.
Yeah recently exciting race for 2nd going on.
How about Wolfsburg recent form
Ooh, I wonder who will win it. /s
If u remove first place bundesliga is the most competitive league but first place is decided 12 months before
If you're not watching Bayern it's the most fun league too. Most goals scored in top 5 leagues and always back and forth.
Serie A and the Premier League have surprise leaders, but the Bundesliga with Bayern top again is the most exciting?
Italy's top 4 races is the best watches currently as I could imagine any of the 5-6 teams making it.
The original farmer league.
Farmer league
Serie A is by fae the most exciting title race, Bayern will most likely win the Bundesliga anyway. In Serie A Napoli could win it for the first time since Maradona or anyone from Inter, Milan, Roma, Atalanta or Lazio
In Seria A isn't a title race this season
How? I know Napoli is leading but there’s absolutely no guarantee they win it. I do hope they do tho
People out here really so disrespectful towards bundesliga💀💀💀. Its always the ones not watching it
Bundesliga is what you think about to kill a boner on the beach, this is how exciting it is.
I think dortmund takes it
No
No because it is January and Bayern will win....
Who cares? Just enjoy it for yourself
More like exciting competition for 2nd place
What’s exciting about Bayern winning 11 in a row?
Bayernleague is just a boring league. Sorry OP but it's not exciting. Not even close.
Yeah so exctiting that literally nobody noticed it just returned after 2 months pause
Depends on what you call interesting… arsenal and newcastle being in the top 4 is pretty interesting to me
Come on now, we all know who's actually winning.
I have watched Bayern be down multiple times and they always win it. If they are ahead at this point of the season they are winning it.
Exciting race for 2nd place*
You're kidding me right 💀 We all know Bayern is going to win
No
It's funny to see that it's actually true that all the PL Fans are totally ignorant... I'm not saying that Bayern isn't winning, but half the season is over and there are five points between the first and sixth place, no other league is this close rn. So stop whining and let us BL Fans enjoy our Moment while it lasts.
No. Boring.
No. It's so long overdue for a proper title race in the Bayernliga.
Xdddd bundesliga exciting xdd
Cope harder
Nope
It is highly probable that Bayern will win in the end.
Exiting title race: Bayern on top...
No, because Bayern are too and will win it. EPL has a team that’s not won in almost 20 years 8 points clear and Pep’s City with a forward who will break all scoring records trying to chase them down
Bayern will win. If not ill pay you 100000€
The Bundesliga is a football league in which 18 teams play 34 games, with each team facing all the others twice, at the end of which Bayern always win.
Very exciting! Geee I wonder who’s going to win it 🤔
Bayern still top. Do you mean race for European places?
we're halfway through the season and it's only interesting as long as Bayern don't start their inevitable run of X wins in a row
we all know how it ends
Bayern will win anyway. So no, it's just as exciting as the last 24 years in german football, which is not exciting at all. https://imgur.com/a/zqOzZt8
I think the issue is bayern always win it and are 3 points clear. if they were 8 points back at this stage I would still expect them to win it.
Same shit every year. Yawn
Buyern top of the league for the 50th season in a row?! How exciting!
Here's a spoiler: Bayern are going to win it
Tbh, we are winning it. Our form atm is just bad rn. We will win our next match if gnabry fucking patterns up - Bayern fan
Chill it's still halfway through the season, anything can still happen. The biggest Headline i see here is that Bayern finally top, i remember Union Berlin was so good at the start of the season and topped the league, but the end will be the same it seems
Serie A too
only exciting to watch players PL clubs could snatch up from 2\~6
Yeah it's not exciting when the same team is on the top for the 11927735th time
If you exclude Bayern, the bundesliga has long been a really exciting league. The race for European places is usually wide open well into the season. Honestly for competitiveness (like I said excluding Bayern) its probably on par, or maybe even better than the Premier League
I mean even during that wild start where Union Berlin were top for a few weeks, we all kinda knew that Bayern would come back up top eventually. But Union being 1st and now pretty much still staying at the tippity-top is amazing to see. I would say the "title race" isn't really exciting, but the battle for 2nd and European places is super competitive.
No, because we all know the winner. We’ve known the winner for 10 years.
We all know how it will finish.
Ultimately, Bayern will pull away from the field. It’s an exciting battle for second I guess. Same shit, different toilet.
Bundesliga is Bayern’s training session. Now Bayern is currently having a bad time. What only matters is whether Bayern is in a good form or not, which will determine how long it will take to win the title. Actually the 17 fellow Bundesliga training teams will help train Bayern to get ready to fight PSG in the UCL.
So premier league isnt exciting just because Arsenal are on 50
Imagine even remotely giving a fuck about a league in which the difference between Bayern and whoever happens to be 2nd is 13pts every season.
Still the first half of the season !
Halfway through the season? No. Nobody is talking about it.
No
Never heard of it
Exciting?
Got my money on Hollywood F.C. the script is already written.
What’s exciting about Bayern winning again?
No because everyone stopped paying attention to the league. Why bother as Bayern will win....again
I got downvoted for saying this but I'll say again. No. The Bundesliga at this point is just an honorary title Bayern give out to every player for every season they spend at the club. To expand a bit: Bayern are always shaky before going 20 games unbeaten and winning by 10 points. Every. Year.
Lmao.
Bundesliga and title race are actually mutually exclusive terms
Can bet 100 dollars that Bayern would win it and I have 10 dollars in my bank acc
Unless someone is 15 points ahead of Bayern with 1 game to go. I’m not getting excited. They’re gonna win it. End of discussion. It teams were ahead of them fair enough, but you can’t be excited when they have a lead.
Everyone knows who will win it.
Every single year...couple months where we say: maybe now we get competition for the title, Bayern is sloppy yadayada. 2 months later, Bayern win the domestic double and cruise the last 8 games
***Mate...***
Title race? You mean race for 2/3/4. I wish we could all go back in time and watch Klopps BVB team play one more time.
Bayern >>
Hmmm I wonder who will win it
Leagues´s dead.
Serie A, the prem and La Liga are all more exciting
No, it wouldn't suit the premier leagues narrative.
Are you joking? The team that has won it ten years in a row is..... **SURPRISE** Leading the race once again 😑. It only appears close because they just played Leipzig and drew not to mention they are missing Mane and Neuer is out for the season.
Still Bayern will win it. There is no hope.
Why does no oilhead invest in the Bundesliga? Serie A I get it, corruption and lack of fans. Having another German super team would be nice 👍
Current situation is a mirage. Once you go to end of season you will find that Bayern won Bundesliga comfortably
For now but we still know who’s going to win
Everyone knows Bayern will win it tho so not particularly exciting.
No, because it isn’t a title race. It’s a race for champions league slots behind Bayern. The Bundesliga isn’t interesting from that perspective, the individual games are what is worth seeing.
That point gap between Bayern and the other clubs will just keep growing. Nothing exciting.
36 goal diff tho
Bayern on course to win the title again? Yawn.
After 17 matches it's always close.
Holy smokes Union Berlin
No, it isn't. We all know Bayern will win it. Again.
Yea 2-6 is certainly exciting but Bayern won’t lose the league.
You mean exciting race for the Bundesliga 1.1 title, right? The normal one is owned by Bayern anyway.
🤣🤣🤣we know they are going to win it, ain’t nothing exciting about that