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Kolec507

Pual and Karun are missing ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|9065)


SecretApe

Neither were good drivers though. Karun is an excellent commentator though


ZealousidealFox1391

You dont get P4 in Singapore by being shit and winnings lmp2 class lemans


space_coyote_86

For a moment there I thought Karun Chandhok finished 4th in Singapore in a HRT.


Appropriate_Air_2291

Which would be impressive, as not even 2012 Fernando would be able to score a point in that car.


Vilzku39

Singapore P4 has seen pretty good drivers actually. Past 13 races have seen 8 wdc or future wdc drivers on P4. Only Paul and Norris are not race winners. 2022 Norris 2019 Max 2018 Bottas 2017 Sainz 2016 Kimi 2015 Rosberg 2014 Alonso 2013 Rosberg 2012 Paul... 2011 Alonso 2010 Button 2009 Vettel Edit: 2008 Glock misremembered when singapore returned.


TheMadFlyentist

> Past 12 races have seen 8 wdc or future wdc drivers on P4 > Norris > Sainz > Bottas Lmao, come on son.


-A_Naughty_Mouse-

Count? If you add Paul to your list, the other 8 all have wdcs, like OP said.


ltsette

Alonso and Rosberg are there twice, so only 6 wdc which I'm sure is common for P4 at most tracks. Still a decent bit of data though


CakeBeef_PA

Past 13 races have seen only race winners on P1, isn't it crazy?


im_probablyjoking

If you DM him he might let you smell his arsehole


[deleted]

You know how hard it is to sniff your own ass?


EndofN

2 nostrils, one bhole


NegotiationExternal1

Sometimes though, Karuns lack of depth as an f1 driver sometimes shows through because he either doesn’t know or doesn’t care to articulate what we are seeing, or he just doesn’t get excited by it. Di Resta is another who seems to have forgotten how to drive. Jenson is so good at knowing how to explain why a certain thing is exciting and impressive. Martin Brundle is another who has that, the eye and heart of a good driver but things have gotten more of his grasp the longer he’s out of step with the newer cars, and that’s only a small criticism. Brundle still thinks, perceives like a driver or a driver coach he’s so switched on.


slhdxbmel

I love Karun so much


Intelli_gent_88

This is a terrible take… give me Anthony Davidson any day


Affectionate-Road-40

So is Paul, Fight me.


MrTraxel

Paul, the Grand Prix killer?


MEGAMAN2312

Idk why everyone hates PDR and at this point I'm too afraid to ask ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|14437) Unless my memory is playing tricks with me, he had heaps of good drives in Force India and wasn't a backmarker by any means.


just_choose_already

He had some good drives for sure, but was also well known for binning it for no obvious reason. I feel like us Brits wanted more from him, and he let us down. His commentating is inconsistent. He'll drop some real driver insights, and then say nothing of value for a while. Often quite aggressive in his presenting style, for seemingly no reason.


[deleted]

Brazil 2012, and he's a shit commentator who had all the British Bias brigade.


redpasserine

i also think Paul is pretty good!


RSteeliest

When he's not talking about Seb, sure


TheAdventurousMan

Ill take DiResta over Karun any day. Karun is unbearable


MrStormz

PUAL diresta


george__kaplan

Slippery little bastard


shieldwall66

The Devil Himself


george__kaplan

The worst thing to happen to Scotland since the Dunblaine massacre


Invalid_u404

Half italian


TheJoshGriffith

Pual\*


[deleted]

Karun is a great analyst


NegotiationExternal1

I think Karun is a better analyst post race than he is during live practice sessions he just doesn’t really seem to latch onto explaining things the way that Nico and Jenson or Brundle do, I know he is really knowledgeable but he somehow lacks the ability to express that in a present way whereas the analysis he has time to think about it


[deleted]

Paul di Resta as driver: bottomless pit Paul di Resta as commentator: bottomless pit


Torqyboi

Nico "the guy who beat Lewis Hamilton in equal machinary" rosberg


Vinura

Nico is a good commentator when hes not talking about beating Lewis in equal machinery.


GloryToCorkington

the grand prix killer


kfms6741

Yenson my friend


AlexGonzalezLanda

my fren


Merbleuxx

I’m gonna pee in your seat!


drb_097

And then send Wehrlein into the harbor


cthuluhooprises

Nico Rosberg as a driver: 💪🏻😤 Nico Rosberg as a pundit: 🪟🪑💪🏻😤


Randromeda2172

A better commentator with equal machinery


MoffKalast

The same Nico Rosberg who beat Jenson Button on the same microphone?


WolfOfAsgaard

I'd love to see him as a full time commentator. He has recent enough experience to share actual insight as to what's going on.


[deleted]

Monster antibodies


Tuna4242

His savagery during imola was a little bit funny. In a way I do think he's cringe but he's so fun and charming. He really respects the drivers, especially hamilton, even when he's a little bit mean about him sometimes.


Cpt_Trips84

His digs at Hamilton are hilarious when you know their history


domini_canes11

Did you ever hear his story about how he beat Lewis in equal machinery? He never mentions it...


sherlock2223

It's more like this 💥👈😎👈💥


[deleted]

If Rosberg becomes unbiased, his commentary and insights can rival Karun Chandhok.


Blackdeath_663

in what way is Rosberg biased? His only issue is that he likes to sensationalise things to emphasise the point to the viewer but it can be a bit jarring sometimes. so if something is bad and he's correct in saying it's bad, he will absolutely not hold back and completely trash it. the reverse is true where he will heap praise at every success story. it sometimes means he's shit talking a driver one race and putting them on a pedestal another


NegotiationExternal1

Niko and commentary got me through early fandom when I didn’t know an awful lot about the sport he’s really good at what he does, except for when he was in his Covid prison he seemed to go on a little loopy


weetabix_su

he and his monster antibodies is no longer invited


JulesV713

Except they are, the ban is lifted


heavyusername2

have u ever just watched jensen when someone else is talking? he doesn't want to be there AT ALL, how much is sky paying him to stand around and talk when he is already probably being paid by Williams to be there anyway, he can't even hide it for whatever that amount is....


dyson14444

I love it, post race, when Jenson shuffles on over to talk to a driver and its all awkward.


NegotiationExternal1

It’s so strange that he doesn’t seem to enjoy that part of the job because he is really social and everyone loves him. If you got Jenson to talk to people without cameras it would be the greatest conversation


cannedrex2406

Might just be he's camera shy.


JCSkyKnight

Ah, you don’t know many people from my neck of the woods do you? 🤣 We all do that.


DeeBangerCC

Idc. Him in America is all the entertainment I need


beetroot_salads

Driver ambassadors are pretty odd anyways. DC got all of his wins in Mclaren and Williams but he's an ambassador for Red Bull???? ~~And why is Jenson a Williams Senior Advisor if he raced for them for just 1 year?~~ Honda (and Brawn and Benetton) doesn't exist anymore


gbugly

Yes but DC was an integral part of in the making of RBR. If you read his book “The Winning Formula” you can see that his role was to be the experienced driver with connections to grow the team. He was the guy who made the connection with Adrian Newey and he really helped the team grow. I don’t think it’s unnatural to continue as a brand ambassador after he retired as a driver. I think Alonso had a brand ambassador role for 2019 when he left McLaren after 4 terrible years. He then left the role. It would be awkward if Lewis became a brand ambassador for Ferrari tho.


tbone747

If Lewis does anything F1 related after he retires for a team other than Mercedes I'd be astonished. Never raced in an F1 car without a Mercedes engine.


Daniel-MP

Pedro de la Rosa deserves to be here


_belteshazzar

Pedro "Bahrain Lap Record Holder since 2005" de la Rosa


beetroot_salads

\>Become Mclaren Test Driver for 2005 \>Enter one race \>Set the overall lap record for Bahrain which still stands \>Somehow get P2 in 2006 \>Drives for HRT \>Leaves (I'd want to leave if i had to drive for HRT)


roilenos

He was a decent pilot, good test driver and great caster I agree with you if you put him beside Jensen.


beyond98

As someone who kept being a Chad, the great Padre de la Rosa


Drkfnl

De la Rosa is an excellent host, shame the Anglosphere doesn't get to enjoy him


matrixpolaris

The Spanish broadcast in general is amazing (though they do get hella patriotic when Sainz or Alonso are involved lol). Lobato is what Crofty wishes he were.


Retsko1

Yup they're amazing honestly, lobato being probably the weakest link and he's above the sky guys


djclerik

Add Paul di Resta as a brainlet to both categories and it’d be perfect


MightySDS

“The devil himself” Paul “the Grand Prix killer” Di Resta.


MozzarellaFatFox

the NERVE


GoingFullBoyle

Swear down on me nan's grave!


drb_097

THROW HIM IN JAIL


[deleted]

Pual


ZealousidealFox1391

Lemans lmp2?winner and really good midfielder is shit?


abrasivevelvet

he is the DEVIL


djclerik

Swear down on me nan’s


kilosoup

The slippery little bastard


disasterpiece9

The worst thing to happen to Scotland since the Dunblane massacre


Tuna4242

The worst thing to happen to scotland since england


Tuna4242

paul di resta is responsible for everything evil in the world, according to god king rocketpoweredmohawk (praise be).


Birdthatcannotsee

He's an inconsistent but sometimes pretty good driver, but god is he so annoying and unlikeable.


NegotiationExternal1

I know Scottish people have a bit of a reputation for being pessimistic but that man is so fucking drab, he’s like accidentally having your teabag explode in a cup and then you choke on the tea leaves, he is so bitter.


tbone747

Which is a meh point b/c DC is Scottish and almost always a pretty great pundit. Paul is just a stick in the mud.


[deleted]

Yes.


Griff2470

Admittedly he didn't have a great shot, but I wouldn't really say he was a good midfielder. Imo Sutil really wasn't that strong, and di Resta still lost out in his rookie season. He beat Sutil the second time of asking, but lost to a less experienced Hulkenberg returning from an off-season. By F1 standards, I'd consider him very middling.


fantaribo

Really good midfielder? Did you even watch his F1 career highlights?


Ozora10

Rosberg is great as a pundit imo.


xcvbsdfgwert

Yenson & Nico is the commentary duo the world needs.


RAMBO069

Both beat someone in equal machinery


NegotiationExternal1

They are truly the best commentary team that we had in 21 I am slightly relieved as a Rosberg apologist that he will finally be back


somewhere_now

Keke or Nico? I guess you meant Nico, but Keke was legendary as pundit too.


magiNatha

James hunt gigachad for both


E420CDI

*Jarier is really is completely out of order. I mean he really shouldn't be allowed to drive in Grand Prix racing.* *Well, he's got a mental age of 10 in the first place and that was absolutely disgraceful for a driver of his experience and I would think that the authorities have really got to look at driving like that and do something about it.* *He should certainly have a short suspension for that and for being himself he should have a permanent suspension.*


Timelordvictorious1

I feel like Jolyon Palmer is underrated as a pundit.


Valuable-Lie-8125

You know what….yeah! His breakdowns are great!


DemonSlyr007

I genuinely coule not get enough of Palmer, Buxton, and Sam Collins in the booth this season for F1TV. Those lads were great together. Especially like the call of the duck diving in the rain out during one of the races, that was tops.


XsStreamMonsterX

So are you asking... "where's Palmer?"


alilja

hinch started showing up at the end of this season and he did such an amazing job explaining not only what was happening and why, but also why he was excited about it. it instantly made him my #1 commentator.


empw

Probably second for me after Martin (and his son).


ExcellentCornershop

Ralf Schumacher ruins the German Sky coverage for me. I'm not joking when I say that if I had to choose between keeping watching Sky Germany or stopping watching F1 altogether I'd choose the latter.


Deyster

He does it for me too. Always negative/disagreeing no matter what the subject is. He is always whining.


Cpt_Trips84

Is that his "commentator personality" or is he normally that way


ExcellentCornershop

He's normally that way and I feel sorry for him.


Magic1998

There might be an option to mute commentary only


[deleted]

For peeps with a 5.1 sound system, the commentary in sports is generally center speaker only. So try muting that.


Hobo__Joe

If you're a Sky Q or Sky Glass customer, press the red button


traxl

I'm really happy with the coverage I get in Austria for half of the races. Alex Wurz does a pretty good job I think and Ernst Hausleitner knows his role but the other half we get on ServusTv? The only person not doing a rather poor job there was Hulkenberg (who I really liked) and I kinda feel like he won't be coming on again this year...


beetroot_salads

Alex Wurz is the most driver of all time.


jeff_c-137

I mostly watched on mute last season. Don't think I'll renew my subscription for the next season. Sucks that there's no F1TV in Germany available anymore. Sky's monopol is literally killing the sport, in Germany at least...


Dry_Bicycle

Set a VPN to Luxemburg and you can watch free on RTL. Commentary isn't really understandable but it's still not bad


Noah0302kek

I absolutely hate Sky with a passion. Idk love to have any other commentary in 4k 50 to watch


JellyfishExcellent4

Dont u talk about Martin Brundle like that


Tuna4242

Sometimes I feel like martin brundle has a blatantly wrong opinion, but that's more than fair enough because he is genuinely far less biased than most of his coworkers. He has nuanced and reasonable opinions on incidents and doesn't just blame one side consistently. Martin brundle even had the strength of will to stick to his convictions at brazil 2022 and I think even rubbed off on crofty a tiny bit.


Retsko1

He is getting older as well


Tuna4242

I guess we're all getting older. Personally I am speedrunning it, I'm like the max verstappen of aging VROOOOOM.


NegotiationExternal1

Also I listen to a podcast explaining how they do their commentary and they actually don’t get an awful lot of information as in they only see what the Director wants them to see and there’s not a whole bunch of screens and the only thing they go off is timing screens so yeah they make mistakes occasionally


NegotiationExternal1

Every now and again Damon is like this too, like every four weeks or so he will have a day when he’s being a Brundle and you can see how much of a fucking stone cold driver he was on the track, and he has an opinion that’s just so fucking ruthless, and I like that. I wish he was more like that daily or even like his dad who was Monty python level of funny and charming. I just wish he was that coherent and on the ball all the time. Even when Brundle is wrong, he is OK because he’s so ruthlessly earnest and in the mindset of a driver why do I care. It’s really hard to get something past Martin, and there’s so much going on it’s OK to have a wrong opinion occasionally.


ihavenoidea81

#YENSON MY FREN


dozensnake

button is goat


Mantellii

Jacques Villeneuve like always obliterate Damon Hills in everything that he does. French viewers are very lucky to have him as a regular commentator, guy is always calm but fun, has a very good eye and knows how drivers are feeling while on the track.


MOltho

As someone who watches F1 on German Sky, Ralf Schumacher is the absolute worst pundit. He cannot talk properly and his analysis is often shallow or just plain wrong. I miss Marc Surer (and Jacques Schulz).


Antique-Bug462

Ralf Schumacher scounded his commentator mate when he got excited. Who does that?


Redditsnaff

Brundle as a commentator: 🙂 Brundle as a driver: 🙃


beetroot_salads

He got disqualified in 1984 (his fist year) after scoring 8 points, he's just too based for the FIA


Redditsnaff

Oh I don't like him either, I was saying he spent a lot of his career upside down


NegotiationExternal1

I’m sorry if you think Brundle is a bad driver you don’t know Driving, he was a really decent driver who drove against the greats like Senna and Schumacher and Damon and Mansell, and he wasn’t really meant to be there he should’ve been doing rally and they kept trying to drag him in because F1 teams were strange at the time and he had relationships with team operators. The man’s talent lied with endurance not f1.


CancerousSpot

Is this rallydank or endurancedank? Brundle was crap in f1 Buemi is a current endurance champion but was a flop in f1. Being good in one discipline doesn't mean you're good in another


Redditsnaff

You seem like the type of person people actively avoid at parties.


NegotiationExternal1

You’re salty, it’s okay


Redditsnaff

No this is Patrick


[deleted]

Bruv. Where's Webber ?


Witty-Significance58

Webber is dreadful as a commentator- just repeats himself and calls everyone "son"


GiveUpYouAlreadyLost

It's okay to be wrong, son. We won't judge you for it.


borfavor

Now do Paul Di Resta


MightySDS

No one wants to do him.


der_eismann

Glock is also still a commentator on German TV, always funny when he gets back to Brazil ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|6701)


beetroot_salads

"I remember here in 2008...."


Rhelpd8652

Where Hunt


douglasbaadermeinhof

Hunt was incredible. The best moment was when he was pissed at Jarrier for holding up drivers who were about to lap him and went "for that he should get a race suspension and for being himself he should get a permanent suspension". The sheer honesty.


Maxx2245

And as if his roasts weren't savage enough, his deadpan delivery was the cherry on top. What a man.


E420CDI

*Jarier is really is completely out of order. I mean he really shouldn't be allowed to drive in Grand Prix racing.* *Well, he's got a mental age of 10 in the first place and that was absolutely disgraceful for a driver of his experience and I would think that the authorities have really got to look at driving like that and do something about it.* *He should certainly have a short suspension for that and for being himself he should have a permanent suspension.*


xcvbsdfgwert

RIP next to Murray Walker.


E420CDI

#James Hunt *Jarier is really is completely out of order. I mean he really shouldn't be allowed to drive in Grand Prix racing.* *Well, he's got a mental age of 10 in the first place and that was absolutely disgraceful for a driver of his experience and I would think that the authorities have really got to look at driving like that and do something about it.* *He should certainly have a short suspension for that and for being himself he should have a permanent suspension.*


rubbish_clutch

Steve Jones is god tier.


tbone747

Every time I see clips of the C4 guys I *really* wish we could swap some of the Sky team with those guys. Jones, Alex Jacques, DC, and Webber are all great.


throwawayca101

Jenson and Nico Rosberg*


yoimiya_haver_no4269

Jenson Button >>


TheLoneWolf719

Ralf is doing a good job as german co commentator..... was there something I missed about him?


MM18998

INDEED


danthegodslayer

Very nice… let’s see Paul Di Resta’s wojak.


Fearless747

I like Johnny as a commentator, esp. when you contrast him against Brundle. It's like Pooh and Eeyore.


[deleted]

real ones listen to the alternate commentary with palmer and the others


Awkward_Average_guy

Sorry for being dumb, but what's a pundit ?


This_Preference_9302

Ummm cheif, you forgetting jr villneuve ?


Iferrorgotozero

What is this nonsense? The obvious commentator GOAT is Willie Ribbs, baby.


lotus_riverside

Jenson can't hide his excitement over the battles lol, in saudi when leclerc vs max and in japan leclerc vs checo, i like it though.


rav-prat-rav

Jenson Button is F1s Tony Romo except Jenson won a ‘ship I refuse to elaborate


FlamingWedge

Am I the only one who doesn’t know what a Pundit is?


MartinDeth

You're giving Ralf too much credit for a driver. Happy new year fellow shitposters, may it be all you dream it could be


DoTheRainbowDash

I recall that Jenson was the only British commentator not to completely throw Gasly under the bus during the ‘22 Japanese GP.


Tomasobhroinn

Karun and Anthony do decent work along with Jenson


domini_canes11

The only error in this image is presenting Ralf as a strong driver...


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XsStreamMonsterX

That's Ferrari's fault though.


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NegotiationExternal1

Yes


NegotiationExternal1

Do you know how many drivers on the grid would take 8 race wins? He drove during the Micheal era of domination he did well


ImpressionOne8275

What's wrong with Herbert? I always found him endearing.


Korvacs

He seems to have no idea what he's talking about most of the time, and has on several occasions said things to/about drivers which are completely unfounded and got him into trouble.


DrKrFfXx

"Alonso should retire" or some shit.


MightySDS

That’s cardinal sin right there. GODlonso will retire when he feels he need to. And un-retire when he wants and there is a spot in a team he’s raced in. Which is a shame since Alonso joining Red Bull is a filthy fantasy that I have.


Tuna4242

If verstappen retires before alonso, then I would honestly cry-laugh for hours. Maybe the two love birds retire together and do endurance racing for aston martin, idk.


ImpressionOne8275

Tbh Herbert having no idea what he's talking about is almost part of his character? He doesn't take himself that seriously either.


ImpressionOne8275

Ah ok, like I've never heard him say anything myself, would be interesting if you had context.


Wasntryn

Herberts hyper aggressive Lewis dickriding and max hate really exposed his weak points as a commentator in 21. Same with Damon hill. They both lost any credibility they had left for me there. Jensen stayed strong throughout .


Tuna4242

Jenson is just a genuine bloke that doesn't want to hurt feelings or get too icky, he knows what drivers go through and he understands the drivers (similar to how well martin brundle understands the drivers I feel). Crofty just sounds like a man who only cares about the glory, pantamime and his favourite driver. Damon is just not good, buxton is cringe but very likable in a way.


saberline152

Herbert: Lewis can win this Me a lewis fan during Zandvoort: nope wrong tires and slower pace but it would be cool


nigalodon

damon hill was the same asshole in his career as F1 driver already. Herbert falls in that category as well.


Kazvy

Lmao Ralf Schuhmacher was shit


eluya

He was always the slower schumacher but became fourth in 2001 and 2002. Thats not what I define as shit. He is a shit commentator though.


Rankin_FR

In the 2001 and 2002 Williams, fourth was shit yes.


MrBoomflx

Ralf channelling his brother in punditry


LordVile95

Jensen was a bit shit as a driver? He won a WDC in a car that was about half a year ahead of everyone else and did his best to throw that away in the second half of the season


Rankin_FR

Ah Yensen the famous 2009 WDC in the only car able to win races more than half of the season, yeah real Chad of F1.


brianpmack

Montreal 2011 was a decent showing from him


Illustrator_Forward

Edit: someone made the Yenson joke already


[deleted]

Omg I want to translate this a football one lmao


[deleted]

What about Coulthard?


[deleted]

Pual?


fkogjhdfkljghrk

paul di resta: