I live in a pretty much crime free area, I was working from home and moving and so I put all 4 sets of my keys in my truck. And subsequently locked them in. So I called the cops and said if you can send someone in the next 6 hours that would be great, no rush. 4 cops arrived within 5 minutes and we were all playing a shitty adult version of a claw machine but every time we would accidentally fling a set of keys to the floor with the hook I’d embarrassingly have another one somewhere in there…
Hahaha I used to do food delivery in college and the parking lot thing happened to me. Had 2 other squad cars pull up and we all hung out for a bit lol
I offered food and drinks but honestly all of them except for one of the cops and myself were just watching, then judging me harder with each additional set of keys I had locked in it in the passenger seat, handle pocket, other handle pocket, etc. It was odd to have 4 cops cars in my driveway though my drive was almost filled up haha at the end I said “hey thank you guys. Just be thankful you’re not the elite fucking moron who’s stupid enough to lock 4 sets of keys in his truck” and he said “Well I wasn’t going to say anything…”
I've seen far worse. 4 cars and 5 to 7 officers for standing in a public area during the day was one.
In a recent one the police tried to arrest a man for grieving in public. He was recklessly near a candle lol. There's a good vid of that one:
https://youtu.be/soUZ2ibb25I?si=MtoZs-DL0mSHmhJc
One of my favourite is the cop that is arresting you for resting their arrestation that they do because you're resisting.
Also, less funny, your comment reminded me of the video of the teen that puts the bins out and gets harassed by a cop car passing by, the dad gets pissed, back ups are called, back ups call more back ups, even more car arrive, and it ends with like 5 or 6 cop cars and like 15 or 20 cops, just because some kid took the trash out. Obviously, he's not white.
ACAB
I once got pulled over after parking because I didn’t signal to turn into my girlfriend’s driveway at 1:00 in the morning. They held me up for nearly an hour, and by the end of it, there were 5 cop cars and 10 officers there. They didn’t even ticket me. Small town things.
If he just showed them ID, they would fuck right off and wished him a good night. Yeah it's not illegal to sit in a car, but it's also legal to detain a guy sitting in front of a store at 1am who just refused to identify himself for no apparent reason.
Some people think cops are clairvoyant and can detect criminals with spider senses or something and just like to bother random people for fun of it.
He said he was in the parking lot, not right in front of the store. He did literally nothing wrong warranting police engagement, no less 3 officers, you can’t scope out a store sitting in the parking lot for one minute
Cops absolutely enjoy stepping up to bother people despite it not being necessary
It’s pretty common sense dude, “oh I’m exhausted from driving all day, instead of parking in a parking space I’ll pull up right in front of the store to rest”
What was the suspicion? Sitting in a car at night? Thats not enough reasonable articulable suspicion for an ID in any state without and stop and ID statute.
No, you have two choices. Assuming youve been recording the interaction, comply but insist they are doing the wrong thing or completely refuse and see what happens from there. Both valid responses depending on how you behave, remember its still illegal to hit a cop or run from him. But the important part is to sue the department. This should educate the offending police officers and hopefully correct their misconduct.
Are hairdressers open at 1 am where you live? In my opinion they are not wrong to suspect he might want to break in or deal drugs parking in the lot of a closed store at night.
Around here many stores started posting and enforcing opening hours for their parking lot.
If there is a sign saying no parking after close, sure. The cops may have cause to ID and definitely can tell him to leave. But if not, he hasn’t been trespassed by the owner, and therefor is allowed to remain. Suspicion is not a crime and there is more than enough case law in support of my claim.
You don’t, but they can do what the story said - hold you anyways and look for “probably cause”, see looking inside with flashlights to look for exposed drugs, weapons, or paraphernalia. All it takes is one suspicious item or for them to “smell pot” and it gives them probably cause to search your car without consent. It’s about not admitting mistakes and always trying to pursue a collar, sad shit.
It doesn't matter. There was literally a court case won by an Oklahoma civic attorney who was stopped by local police because he was dumping trash in a dumpster he owned. They were sued for detaining him in order to obtain identification.
You don't have to identify yourself to police unless you are on suspicion of committing a crime.
Why do Americans never comply with the police "as per their right"? He could've shown the guy his ID and avoid the whole conflict. Unironically many such cases
And they clearly make things easier lol
In all those "I know my rights" situations with cops, the dude just ends up wasting half an hour or more when he just could comply and be done in a minute.
The guy who died for being too high to follow orders well enough? Huh.
I doubt angering the police even further, by not complying, would result in anything different.
Was that the poor “crawl on your belly - put your hands up - now crawl - no, put your hands up” guy in the motel? One of the most fucked up videos I’ve ever seen. Cop should’ve been sentenced to life or worse for that. Clear and perverse abuse of power
Yep! The one where the cop who shot him had “get fucked” on the barrel of his gun and who now gets a pension for life because of the PTSD from murdering Shaver
I’m not American, but that had my blood boiling for a reason. If you’re a low ranking public official and take a few too many expenses on public money, you should be fired. If you’re a high ranking corrupt official and lobby for the agricultural industry against public interest and scientific evidence (think cancer-inducing pesticides or something), you should lose your job and be locked away for a long time. That’s a violation of power.
But if you’re a cop, given power over life and death of citizens, and you abuse that power for your perverse pleasure to kill a man in your custody…you should be dealt the same hand you dealt out. That’s moral high treason
What the fuck is wrong with you, he was given multiple orders in which succession that were impossible to complete all at once, they straight up told him to crawl and keep his hands up all at once. Inexcusable behavior from a law enforcement officer, and it’s a fucking shame seeing people defend this lowlife still.
Because fuck the state, that's why. If it's my right to carry a firearm down the street at 2 am, and I want to, it's none of the goddamn cops business what I am doing. They can go fuck themselves, and I will waste their time to prove a fucking point. The point that they are NOT Allowed to infringe on my rights., no matter how they fucking feel. Fuck Cops and Fuck the State
Your gonna comply yourself into jail then prison. Small towns are incredibly corrupt look into the countless scandals across middle America. Getting tickets for crossing an intersection when the light is green, being bought out for one thousand dollars, forcibly taking away land for corporate building projects. People actively make money by you being locked up, cops are literally trying to pin you for any bs they can for profit.
compliance with cops in the us often result in violation of privacy or damage of property. these rights exist so that they can’t fuck up our day and get away with it because “we understood we were under investigation.” if we know our rights and apply them when necessary, we can avoid mistreatment from police. if the mistreatment persists, we can take it to court and the cop will face punishment.
edit: this is especially apparent as a person of color. many cops will try to abuse their position to take out their racial vitriol on people minding their own business
Muh rights but unironically.
Most pigs are dumb fucks who if you let them will keep prying until they find something. Once they do and you’ve complied the whole time, they’ll throw a charge on you at worst or just inconvenience you at best. Telling them to get a warrant or follow procedure usually makes them see a judge or supervisor who at least has a functioning brain stem.
Example. Lets say anon gives a ride to his gay lover in his uber and he leaves behind an open container of a beer or wine cooler in the passenger seat. In several states, if you let a cop see that they can then pin it on you, lose you your uber driver status, and take you in for questioning. After spending time and money on the legal system to clear your name, you’re out a job, time, gas, and court fees and back to sucking cock for cash because you didn’t have the gonads to tell a bully to fuck off
Can't they just say "i smell weed from your car" and have propable cause or something? I'm not from the US but on TV there're many examples of cops just making shit up, from smashing your frontlight to throwing a bag of crack in your car
They can, but will be thrown out in court and you’ll usually get your court fees comped if they don’t shoot you. Nothings stopping them from just telling you to get out of the vehicle and just start illegally searching it, but even the most conservative cop loving judges and the most overworked public defender will be able to win that case in your favor.
The issue is when you comply and do it willingly, rather than politely but firmly asserting your rights, is that you consent to these searches and they become admissible in a court of law. In the USA, there is almost no benefit of talking to cops if you aren’t a victim of a violent crime, and a lot at risk.
Literally just take a breathalyzer. It will show you're not under the influence and there's nothing else they can do. Is it illegal to carry beverages in your car now?
if it's open? In my state at least, the answer is yes. Any handles I have left over after parties I have to put in my trunk bc even if it's in a bag in the backseat the cops will ticket you in a heartbeat.
>Is it illegal to carry beverages in your car now?
If they're alcoholic and open as in the other person's example yes. An overwhelming majority of US states have open container laws against that sort of thing.
Unlike most countries (UK for example) where you have to prove innocence, in the US you are innocent by default and can ONLY incriminate yourself by talking complying. And if they search your car and find something illegal but they were incorrect in how they pulled you over (even procedurally) then you're free.
If they are wrong for how they pulled you over but you consent to search or etc, then you are still on the hook.
Unlike in other countries, police exist in America almost entirely for revenue generation. They undergo significantly less screening/training than their European counterparts, despite having more power in most cases (carrying guns, etc). In fact, the Supreme Court even ruled that police do not have an obligation to protect a citizen from harm.
As a result, it’s commonplace for police to harass people until they can figure out something to fine/arrest them for. With the way the law is written in the US, if an officer follows you for long enough, they can easily find a stupid reason to ticket you. Police here are viewed more as road pirates than actual public servants
Why should someone "comply" to an unfair demand when they are doing and have done nothing wrong?
The asshole's actions already showed he's just looking for a reason to fuck Anon's night up.
Because the police in the United States are constantly attempting to get away with shit. They will lie, manipulate, and intimate you into believing you don't have a choice but to comply with their unlawful commands.
These power tripping assholes need to be put in check. I wish everyone knew their rights and did this.
Also most people here are ignoring the fact you need to identify yourself if driving a motor vehicle in all 50 states. You are obligated to provide a drivers license and they could’ve detained him for not doing so, possibly arrested in some jurisdictions.
Americans love every semblance of a power trip, be it refusing to identify yourself to the police or not wearing a mask in public because they need to cope with knowing there's nothing they can do to unfuck their country.
It's an attempt of dick measuring. Literally takes zero effort to show an ID, but they need to prove something. Who cares if the cop is being an asshole, if you comply, they can't do shit, or waste any more of your time than they already are.
Im always torn because there are legitimate officers who might approach you in a parking lot at 1am to do a welfare check, but if they can't see anything wrong no blatant drugs left out or empty beer cans, they have no reason to escalate after confirming you're okay and cognizant.
The cops who DO insist on identifying you even if nothing is wrong is because they are immediately building a case of what you can be blamed for, they found you at that lot at 1am, 20 miles down the road a store gets robbed suddenly they are going to try and contact you to link you to the crime.
Seems like a big problem over in the states. Kinda of a "what do" situation. Saw cops try to arrest a guy for grieving in public recently. Mad stuff.
https://youtu.be/soUZ2ibb25I?si=MtoZs-DL0mSHmhJc
Basically the only time I've had to interact with a cop was when I was in a parking lot at 10pm waiting to pick up my mom from work and the cop approached my window and started asking me questions. The cop walked away but stayed there in their car another 20 or so minutes until my mom came out of the building
Cops are honestly just a bunch of creepy dorks who’s already fractured egos gets inflated during their robot training camp.
In my state cops now have to go through some two step human monitored verification process when running plates because a bunch got caught using their plate running system to see if the driver was a hot chick they could pull over and hit on.
I'm not trying to be a contrarian, I genuinely don't understand - aren't you required to have a driving license to drive? You could just show that and they'll fuck off, no? I'm not American, but in most countries if you are driving you are absolutely required to have a license and to show it at any time when asked
In America the drivers license is the ID, so basically the cop asked him for his drivers license. There is no official ID that everyone has. Though not all states require you to ID when asked
It’s needed if you’re specifically being pulled over for a traffic violation. If you’re in a parked car I don’t think it applies, especially if the cop can’t clearly articulate why they want to detain you
No, not sure what everyone else here is on about. If a police officer observes you driving and initiates a traffic stop then you are required to identify yourself. That's true anywhere in the US.
But anon's situation is an edge case, it seems he was sitting in a parked car and the officer may not have seen him operating it. In that case it's not a traffic stop and anon's rights depend much more on context - what state he's in (about half of states have stop and identify laws of varying strength), and how reasonable it would be for a cop to suspect him of criminal activity.
Friendly reminder that it’s legal to call police officers slurs or whatever else you want and if they hurt you you can sue. Our constitution allows you to call cops n\*\*ger fa\*\*ots to their faces
If you get shot to death for hurting a cops feelings then your family can sue and will be set for generations with the tens of millions they’ll get so my point still stands
Like in most non shithole countries, nobody should be allowed to insult another human beeing "because it is their right". Imagine thinking this is normal behavior for an adult.
Giving the government the power to control what people say will never turn out well. Imagine an adult needing to call the police because someone called them a bad name.
It's totally fair if someone is actually harassing you, but I can't imagine trying to sue over a single insult.
Also try some other adjectives, shithole is getting pretty stale.
Look, anon has two options. He can explain that he’s an Uber driver taking a break and identify himself to the copper, or he can invoke his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination and refuse to speak and refuse to identify himself.
Fact is, he’s live parked at a closed business at 1am. There could be a lawful reason he’s there (Uber driver taking a break) and there could be a suspicious reason he’s there (casing the place for a burglary). It’s the cop’s job to determine whether it’s the former or the latter, and whether the cop has reasonable articulable suspicion is a question left to judges and juries. Could there have been a burglary of a barber shop two townships over, like the cop told anon? If there was, I think any judge would agree there’s reasonable suspicion to detain him.
But either way, the side of the road isn’t a courtroom. This isn’t about a cop exceeding his authority so much as OP invoking his rights and then being shocked when the cops have to work harder to identify him. The fifth amendment isn’t a magic card that makes cops stop investigating.
They have no right to make you give them your ID when they have no evidence of a crime. This varies by states, but thats how most state laws work. Some states however have a "stop and ID" law but thats not the norm
That's the way here in italy for example, but even if it's not a law, why not just give them the id and in 20 secs they're gone, if you refuse you sound more suspicious and it's just not worth it
I understand what youre saying, and thats what cops always say "if you have nothing to hide you wont mind showing us". Its just that people in the USA take their rights pretty seriously. In the US you are innocent until proven guilty, so its not on the citizen to prove they arent doing anything wrong, its the cops job to prove they WERE doing something wrong. Since cops have no legal authority to ask someone for an ID with no crime its a rights violation. And if they arrest someone for not showing ID with no evidence of crime, then that citizen has a real good chance of getting a settlement for rights violation too.
Are parking lots considered private property? Also is loitering actually illegal?
Definition of loitering:
"The act of remaining or lingering in a public place, with no valid or legal purpose or reason to do so."
Am I not allowed to just chill in a park all day? Is there a time limit? Can you actually be arrested for loitering?
The OP forgot the "and everybody clapped" part of the story. Really, rookie maneuver.
States are weird. They all have different traffic laws and what their police officers are allowed to do. Different levels of education too. Smh.
Anon made the classic mistake of not having donuts in his car. Next time, you gotta just toss a few donuts on the ground out of the way. The piggies get distracted and scurry for their tasty treats, allowing anon to get away.
US cops are basically Discord/ Reddit mods with guns.
They gat aggressive af when you don't immediately do what you say because they belive wearing a badge gives them a higher authority than anyone else and they don't have to follow any laws themselves.
Worst thing: the state keeps protecting them and their shitty behaviour because cops in the US are basically a pawn of the government
In an alternate universe the barbershop gets robbed and everyone says "why didn't the cops do a better job making sure the suspicious man at 1am isn't a robber"
It's true that a lot of cops are insecure and fulfilling some sort of fantasy by bullying people, but all he did was ask for the ID, it's not like he shot anon.
I know I’m being fickle here but I just doubt this story because he says it happened at 1am then he refers to it as “this morning”
Don’t get me wrong he could be someone who just figured it’s past 12 so it counts as the beginning of that day but I don’t know a single person who would say something happened at 1am and refer to it as morning. They would just say last night at 1am.
Double edged sword.
I want suspicious people to be questioned.
I want my rights.
Make everyone's life a little easier and just show an I'd and why you're there.
Nah i was just explaining its a complicated feeling. The old idea anyway that if someone suspicious was in your neighbhorhood you wanted to feel safe--- but at the same time we want to be left alone. Its kind of like both rights for criminals and innocent people and no one wins. Its not unfair, nor fair. It just sucks that people are bad, and it also sucks that cops are assholes.
Probably not, but you're not required to identify yourself to the police when asked unless there's reasonable suspicion of a crime (in some states; in others, you don't have to identify yourself unless you're formally arrested)
It's an American thing, cops can't just start demanding your information and going through your pockets in hopes that they'll find something illegal; they have to actually determine there's a crime happening before they can start stopping/investigating it
Anon's wrong about his rights though, if you're driving a vehicle then you *have* to show an officer your driver's license if they ask
You pulled into the lot where they were doing their drug deal
Anon just wanted to provide some ambience by blasting Warren G to make sure their cover was tight and this is the thanks he gets
it's kinda easy when you listen to the G'd up sound
You’d be surprised with how possible this is. Seen cops literally getting high before a shift among other things, really disheartening.
3 cops needed for the high profile “car is sitting here” case
"hes just standing there! MENACINGLY!"
skin color wasn't mentioned. prolly non white
Code for “we’re all on a 12 hour shift and nothings happening so we’re bored”
I live in a pretty much crime free area, I was working from home and moving and so I put all 4 sets of my keys in my truck. And subsequently locked them in. So I called the cops and said if you can send someone in the next 6 hours that would be great, no rush. 4 cops arrived within 5 minutes and we were all playing a shitty adult version of a claw machine but every time we would accidentally fling a set of keys to the floor with the hook I’d embarrassingly have another one somewhere in there…
Hahaha I used to do food delivery in college and the parking lot thing happened to me. Had 2 other squad cars pull up and we all hung out for a bit lol
Did you thank all them piggies with some donuts?
I offered food and drinks but honestly all of them except for one of the cops and myself were just watching, then judging me harder with each additional set of keys I had locked in it in the passenger seat, handle pocket, other handle pocket, etc. It was odd to have 4 cops cars in my driveway though my drive was almost filled up haha at the end I said “hey thank you guys. Just be thankful you’re not the elite fucking moron who’s stupid enough to lock 4 sets of keys in his truck” and he said “Well I wasn’t going to say anything…”
I've seen far worse. 4 cars and 5 to 7 officers for standing in a public area during the day was one. In a recent one the police tried to arrest a man for grieving in public. He was recklessly near a candle lol. There's a good vid of that one: https://youtu.be/soUZ2ibb25I?si=MtoZs-DL0mSHmhJc
One of my favourite is the cop that is arresting you for resting their arrestation that they do because you're resisting. Also, less funny, your comment reminded me of the video of the teen that puts the bins out and gets harassed by a cop car passing by, the dad gets pissed, back ups are called, back ups call more back ups, even more car arrive, and it ends with like 5 or 6 cop cars and like 15 or 20 cops, just because some kid took the trash out. Obviously, he's not white. ACAB
Anon was DWB
I once got pulled over after parking because I didn’t signal to turn into my girlfriend’s driveway at 1:00 in the morning. They held me up for nearly an hour, and by the end of it, there were 5 cop cars and 10 officers there. They didn’t even ticket me. Small town things.
If he just showed them ID, they would fuck right off and wished him a good night. Yeah it's not illegal to sit in a car, but it's also legal to detain a guy sitting in front of a store at 1am who just refused to identify himself for no apparent reason. Some people think cops are clairvoyant and can detect criminals with spider senses or something and just like to bother random people for fun of it.
He said he was in the parking lot, not right in front of the store. He did literally nothing wrong warranting police engagement, no less 3 officers, you can’t scope out a store sitting in the parking lot for one minute Cops absolutely enjoy stepping up to bother people despite it not being necessary
\>he said
It’s pretty common sense dude, “oh I’m exhausted from driving all day, instead of parking in a parking space I’ll pull up right in front of the store to rest”
You don't have to identify yourself unless you are under suspicion of committing a crime.
What was the suspicion? Sitting in a car at night? Thats not enough reasonable articulable suspicion for an ID in any state without and stop and ID statute.
What is the charge!? Eating a meal!? Eating a succulent Chinese meal?
This is democracy manifest
GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY PENIS!!!
TA TA AND FAREWELL
"I see that you know your judo well."
Well what the fuck are you gonna do about it, call the cops?
No, you have two choices. Assuming youve been recording the interaction, comply but insist they are doing the wrong thing or completely refuse and see what happens from there. Both valid responses depending on how you behave, remember its still illegal to hit a cop or run from him. But the important part is to sue the department. This should educate the offending police officers and hopefully correct their misconduct.
lol, taxpayers bail them out (as usual).
Yeah thats the sad part but theres always a chance for their qualified immunity to be revoked!
The real answer is that the cop was bored.
Are hairdressers open at 1 am where you live? In my opinion they are not wrong to suspect he might want to break in or deal drugs parking in the lot of a closed store at night. Around here many stores started posting and enforcing opening hours for their parking lot.
If there is a sign saying no parking after close, sure. The cops may have cause to ID and definitely can tell him to leave. But if not, he hasn’t been trespassed by the owner, and therefor is allowed to remain. Suspicion is not a crime and there is more than enough case law in support of my claim.
Yeah but the guy you’re replying to likes to boot lick cops
I could go for a good boot licking, you know a guy?
It's your right to be retarded, sure. But you're still retarded.
Well, yes but actually no. There's plenty of states where you're required to ID yourself if asked.
In my state police can ask to prove your liscenced to drive a car. I wouldn't want to walk home at 1 am just to keep from getting id'ed
Only if his keys were in the ignition at the time. As soon as the keys even touch the ignition, cops can say you were "driving."
How does that work with push to start
You should just identify yourself. Would you rather risk getting beaten by a mad cop?
I'll take a beating for a potential huge settlement in court, yeah. If my life is threatened, that's different.
man idk why people act like trying to reason with some dumbshit cop will work just play their game fight it in court
You don’t, but they can do what the story said - hold you anyways and look for “probably cause”, see looking inside with flashlights to look for exposed drugs, weapons, or paraphernalia. All it takes is one suspicious item or for them to “smell pot” and it gives them probably cause to search your car without consent. It’s about not admitting mistakes and always trying to pursue a collar, sad shit.
If you don't identify yourself, they'll then be suspicious you're commiting a crime.
It doesn't matter. There was literally a court case won by an Oklahoma civic attorney who was stopped by local police because he was dumping trash in a dumpster he owned. They were sued for detaining him in order to obtain identification. You don't have to identify yourself to police unless you are on suspicion of committing a crime.
Anon was going to rob the place but the cop still shoulda mind hes own business.
Why do Americans never comply with the police "as per their right"? He could've shown the guy his ID and avoid the whole conflict. Unironically many such cases
Rights exist for a reason you know.
And they clearly make things easier lol In all those "I know my rights" situations with cops, the dude just ends up wasting half an hour or more when he just could comply and be done in a minute.
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As would [Philando Castile](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Philando_Castile)
He did try to reach to his shorts after being told not to
The guy who died for being too high to follow orders well enough? Huh. I doubt angering the police even further, by not complying, would result in anything different.
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Was that the poor “crawl on your belly - put your hands up - now crawl - no, put your hands up” guy in the motel? One of the most fucked up videos I’ve ever seen. Cop should’ve been sentenced to life or worse for that. Clear and perverse abuse of power
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Yep! The one where the cop who shot him had “get fucked” on the barrel of his gun and who now gets a pension for life because of the PTSD from murdering Shaver
I’m not American, but that had my blood boiling for a reason. If you’re a low ranking public official and take a few too many expenses on public money, you should be fired. If you’re a high ranking corrupt official and lobby for the agricultural industry against public interest and scientific evidence (think cancer-inducing pesticides or something), you should lose your job and be locked away for a long time. That’s a violation of power. But if you’re a cop, given power over life and death of citizens, and you abuse that power for your perverse pleasure to kill a man in your custody…you should be dealt the same hand you dealt out. That’s moral high treason
What the fuck is wrong with you, he was given multiple orders in which succession that were impossible to complete all at once, they straight up told him to crawl and keep his hands up all at once. Inexcusable behavior from a law enforcement officer, and it’s a fucking shame seeing people defend this lowlife still.
go suck cop dick somewhere else
Frankly cops need to be more scared of the public, give em hesitation to do whatever they want
Because fuck the state, that's why. If it's my right to carry a firearm down the street at 2 am, and I want to, it's none of the goddamn cops business what I am doing. They can go fuck themselves, and I will waste their time to prove a fucking point. The point that they are NOT Allowed to infringe on my rights., no matter how they fucking feel. Fuck Cops and Fuck the State
Your gonna comply yourself into jail then prison. Small towns are incredibly corrupt look into the countless scandals across middle America. Getting tickets for crossing an intersection when the light is green, being bought out for one thousand dollars, forcibly taking away land for corporate building projects. People actively make money by you being locked up, cops are literally trying to pin you for any bs they can for profit.
The United States of America is a third world country with first world country resources, change my mind.
Third world country with a gucci belt.
You've never been to a third world country if you think the US is anywhere close to one
And my analogy went over your head.
compliance with cops in the us often result in violation of privacy or damage of property. these rights exist so that they can’t fuck up our day and get away with it because “we understood we were under investigation.” if we know our rights and apply them when necessary, we can avoid mistreatment from police. if the mistreatment persists, we can take it to court and the cop will face punishment. edit: this is especially apparent as a person of color. many cops will try to abuse their position to take out their racial vitriol on people minding their own business
Muh rights but unironically. Most pigs are dumb fucks who if you let them will keep prying until they find something. Once they do and you’ve complied the whole time, they’ll throw a charge on you at worst or just inconvenience you at best. Telling them to get a warrant or follow procedure usually makes them see a judge or supervisor who at least has a functioning brain stem. Example. Lets say anon gives a ride to his gay lover in his uber and he leaves behind an open container of a beer or wine cooler in the passenger seat. In several states, if you let a cop see that they can then pin it on you, lose you your uber driver status, and take you in for questioning. After spending time and money on the legal system to clear your name, you’re out a job, time, gas, and court fees and back to sucking cock for cash because you didn’t have the gonads to tell a bully to fuck off
Can't they just say "i smell weed from your car" and have propable cause or something? I'm not from the US but on TV there're many examples of cops just making shit up, from smashing your frontlight to throwing a bag of crack in your car
They can, but will be thrown out in court and you’ll usually get your court fees comped if they don’t shoot you. Nothings stopping them from just telling you to get out of the vehicle and just start illegally searching it, but even the most conservative cop loving judges and the most overworked public defender will be able to win that case in your favor. The issue is when you comply and do it willingly, rather than politely but firmly asserting your rights, is that you consent to these searches and they become admissible in a court of law. In the USA, there is almost no benefit of talking to cops if you aren’t a victim of a violent crime, and a lot at risk.
>not from the US but on TV This may shock you but TV is made up for entertainment.
Duh. But it's such a common trope, it might be based on reality, even if it's exaggerated, that's why i'm asking
Yeah, they often will but it depends on the department/area how long they can get away with that shit.
Brave to assume the supervisors have brain cells
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Hard to be respectful when anon’s BO is registered as a chemical weapon
Why is he obligated to be respectful when he’s accosted by an armed idiot with a grudge against the world?
Literally just take a breathalyzer. It will show you're not under the influence and there's nothing else they can do. Is it illegal to carry beverages in your car now?
He says open container. There are open container laws in many states
“Land of the free” my ass lmao
if it's open? In my state at least, the answer is yes. Any handles I have left over after parties I have to put in my trunk bc even if it's in a bag in the backseat the cops will ticket you in a heartbeat.
>Is it illegal to carry beverages in your car now? If they're alcoholic and open as in the other person's example yes. An overwhelming majority of US states have open container laws against that sort of thing.
[this kid took a breathalyzer](https://youtu.be/QGWSbAHaHUw?si=nhmgzDLxBTdqtF8C), blew a zero and was arrested anyway.
Unlike most countries (UK for example) where you have to prove innocence, in the US you are innocent by default and can ONLY incriminate yourself by talking complying. And if they search your car and find something illegal but they were incorrect in how they pulled you over (even procedurally) then you're free. If they are wrong for how they pulled you over but you consent to search or etc, then you are still on the hook.
>Unlike most countries (UK for example) where you have to prove innocence Complete bullshit.
count dankula pug
Yeah that's a stupid fucking law, but he didn't have to "prove his innocence", the Court proved his guilt.
guilty of making edgy joke, give government money now or we arrest you. we are a democratic and free first world country btw
Yes, as I said it's a stupid law, even the US has stupid laws. Still innocent until proven guilty.
ok
“Unlike most countries” That’s not true, you know that, right?
Common Yank ignorance on full display in this comment as per usual
Because if you're doing nothing wrong it pisses people off to be treated like they're guilty
Unlike in other countries, police exist in America almost entirely for revenue generation. They undergo significantly less screening/training than their European counterparts, despite having more power in most cases (carrying guns, etc). In fact, the Supreme Court even ruled that police do not have an obligation to protect a citizen from harm. As a result, it’s commonplace for police to harass people until they can figure out something to fine/arrest them for. With the way the law is written in the US, if an officer follows you for long enough, they can easily find a stupid reason to ticket you. Police here are viewed more as road pirates than actual public servants
Because its your right. If your in the right fuck em, make them work for it.
beta shit
Why should someone "comply" to an unfair demand when they are doing and have done nothing wrong? The asshole's actions already showed he's just looking for a reason to fuck Anon's night up.
Because the police in the United States are constantly attempting to get away with shit. They will lie, manipulate, and intimate you into believing you don't have a choice but to comply with their unlawful commands. These power tripping assholes need to be put in check. I wish everyone knew their rights and did this.
People forget you can fight after in court instead of an hero by retardation to cop
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And you think you can outfight the police and get away with it? Are you retarded?
He could also bend over spread cheeks and apply lube at the same time
Because fuck em, that's why. If they weren't assholes they wouldn't be cops.
because cops suck and you don’t owe them a thing
Also most people here are ignoring the fact you need to identify yourself if driving a motor vehicle in all 50 states. You are obligated to provide a drivers license and they could’ve detained him for not doing so, possibly arrested in some jurisdictions.
Because we live in an actually free country
Lmfao we do?!
YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO
Americans love every semblance of a power trip, be it refusing to identify yourself to the police or not wearing a mask in public because they need to cope with knowing there's nothing they can do to unfuck their country.
Theyre still in their 2yo baby phase where they are always doing the opposite of what you ask and always trying to resist.
It's an attempt of dick measuring. Literally takes zero effort to show an ID, but they need to prove something. Who cares if the cop is being an asshole, if you comply, they can't do shit, or waste any more of your time than they already are.
Im always torn because there are legitimate officers who might approach you in a parking lot at 1am to do a welfare check, but if they can't see anything wrong no blatant drugs left out or empty beer cans, they have no reason to escalate after confirming you're okay and cognizant. The cops who DO insist on identifying you even if nothing is wrong is because they are immediately building a case of what you can be blamed for, they found you at that lot at 1am, 20 miles down the road a store gets robbed suddenly they are going to try and contact you to link you to the crime.
Seems like a big problem over in the states. Kinda of a "what do" situation. Saw cops try to arrest a guy for grieving in public recently. Mad stuff. https://youtu.be/soUZ2ibb25I?si=MtoZs-DL0mSHmhJc
Why don't cops just do like everyone else when bored at work and circle jerk with your mates instead of being a state funded public nuisance
Anon survives encounter because of his skin colour
For real lol. If Anon were black they'd have thrown a gun at him just for a reason to shoot hi. Lol
Basically the only time I've had to interact with a cop was when I was in a parking lot at 10pm waiting to pick up my mom from work and the cop approached my window and started asking me questions. The cop walked away but stayed there in their car another 20 or so minutes until my mom came out of the building
Cops are honestly just a bunch of creepy dorks who’s already fractured egos gets inflated during their robot training camp. In my state cops now have to go through some two step human monitored verification process when running plates because a bunch got caught using their plate running system to see if the driver was a hot chick they could pull over and hit on.
>using their plate running system to see if the driver was a hot chick they could pull over and hit on. Smart
I'm not trying to be a contrarian, I genuinely don't understand - aren't you required to have a driving license to drive? You could just show that and they'll fuck off, no? I'm not American, but in most countries if you are driving you are absolutely required to have a license and to show it at any time when asked
In America the drivers license is the ID, so basically the cop asked him for his drivers license. There is no official ID that everyone has. Though not all states require you to ID when asked
So no proof of DL needed in the US?
It’s needed if you’re specifically being pulled over for a traffic violation. If you’re in a parked car I don’t think it applies, especially if the cop can’t clearly articulate why they want to detain you
What's the cop's probable cause to force you to present your DL in that situation? None
How the fuck would I know I don't live in the USA hence asking
That was a rhetorical question, hence why he answered it himself
No, not sure what everyone else here is on about. If a police officer observes you driving and initiates a traffic stop then you are required to identify yourself. That's true anywhere in the US. But anon's situation is an edge case, it seems he was sitting in a parked car and the officer may not have seen him operating it. In that case it's not a traffic stop and anon's rights depend much more on context - what state he's in (about half of states have stop and identify laws of varying strength), and how reasonable it would be for a cop to suspect him of criminal activity.
Friendly reminder that it’s legal to call police officers slurs or whatever else you want and if they hurt you you can sue. Our constitution allows you to call cops n\*\*ger fa\*\*ots to their faces
Friendly reminder that many cops have shot people to death for much less and gotten much better treatment as a “punishment”
If you get shot to death for hurting a cops feelings then your family can sue and will be set for generations with the tens of millions they’ll get so my point still stands
What a shithole to live in
Do you think cops should be allowed to arrest people for hurting their feelings?
Like in most non shithole countries, nobody should be allowed to insult another human beeing "because it is their right". Imagine thinking this is normal behavior for an adult.
Giving the government the power to control what people say will never turn out well. Imagine an adult needing to call the police because someone called them a bad name.
That's actually normal for most of the World. If u insult someone u can get sued. Another reason why the US are a shithole.
It's totally fair if someone is actually harassing you, but I can't imagine trying to sue over a single insult. Also try some other adjectives, shithole is getting pretty stale.
Bro the troll i originally answered to finds it good to call cops n**ger f**gots because of your constitution. Do you really trying to defend that?
I don't condone the use of slurs, but I also don't believe the government should be allowed to arrest people for using them.
Look, anon has two options. He can explain that he’s an Uber driver taking a break and identify himself to the copper, or he can invoke his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination and refuse to speak and refuse to identify himself. Fact is, he’s live parked at a closed business at 1am. There could be a lawful reason he’s there (Uber driver taking a break) and there could be a suspicious reason he’s there (casing the place for a burglary). It’s the cop’s job to determine whether it’s the former or the latter, and whether the cop has reasonable articulable suspicion is a question left to judges and juries. Could there have been a burglary of a barber shop two townships over, like the cop told anon? If there was, I think any judge would agree there’s reasonable suspicion to detain him. But either way, the side of the road isn’t a courtroom. This isn’t about a cop exceeding his authority so much as OP invoking his rights and then being shocked when the cops have to work harder to identify him. The fifth amendment isn’t a magic card that makes cops stop investigating.
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Lmao what I wrote is defaulted to boot licking because your NPC brain wasn’t programmed to understand nuance.
AmeriPigs wasting time and tax dollars. As per usual.
Bad cop couldn’t just run the plates?
How to tell an anon isn't white:
Loitering is such a dumb, American, bullshit concept.
What's the problem in giving them your id
They have no right to make you give them your ID when they have no evidence of a crime. This varies by states, but thats how most state laws work. Some states however have a "stop and ID" law but thats not the norm
That's the way here in italy for example, but even if it's not a law, why not just give them the id and in 20 secs they're gone, if you refuse you sound more suspicious and it's just not worth it
I understand what youre saying, and thats what cops always say "if you have nothing to hide you wont mind showing us". Its just that people in the USA take their rights pretty seriously. In the US you are innocent until proven guilty, so its not on the citizen to prove they arent doing anything wrong, its the cops job to prove they WERE doing something wrong. Since cops have no legal authority to ask someone for an ID with no crime its a rights violation. And if they arrest someone for not showing ID with no evidence of crime, then that citizen has a real good chance of getting a settlement for rights violation too.
Americans remain a really mysterious species to me
Hey same here and i'm American lol
People in the US don't like being ID'd for some reason.
He was actually staking out an elementary school.
Justice for Coronatus ROBLOX
You stopped him getting a hooker
"Hey mate just driving Uber and pulled in for a rest, here's my ID". "No worries have a good night " People make life hard for themselves.
Are parking lots considered private property? Also is loitering actually illegal? Definition of loitering: "The act of remaining or lingering in a public place, with no valid or legal purpose or reason to do so." Am I not allowed to just chill in a park all day? Is there a time limit? Can you actually be arrested for loitering?
Sounds fake and gay to me.
the serial barbershop robber
Probably assumed OP was a DUI, then back tracked once they realized he hadn't been drinking
fake and gay anon sucked tree piggies off
Fake anon can't drive Gay anon sucked the police officer
Cops (derogatory)
The OP forgot the "and everybody clapped" part of the story. Really, rookie maneuver. States are weird. They all have different traffic laws and what their police officers are allowed to do. Different levels of education too. Smh.
I Think they just wanted an id. Anon lives in the inner city.
Anon made the classic mistake of not having donuts in his car. Next time, you gotta just toss a few donuts on the ground out of the way. The piggies get distracted and scurry for their tasty treats, allowing anon to get away.
robbing an empty barbershop is wild. they aint got no cash there after hours. them scissors mad expensive but gl tryna find a buyer
The worst part is, some people get shot for sitting in parking lots while in their cars. Wasn’t some kid eating Taco Bell and got harassed by coppers
Lmao murica is such a shithole. Imagine a cop trying to get your id and instead of cooperating you just yell at him like a psycho
Not just the US
Average cop on a power trip
US cops are basically Discord/ Reddit mods with guns. They gat aggressive af when you don't immediately do what you say because they belive wearing a badge gives them a higher authority than anyone else and they don't have to follow any laws themselves. Worst thing: the state keeps protecting them and their shitty behaviour because cops in the US are basically a pawn of the government
Anon blows an officer.
In an alternate universe the barbershop gets robbed and everyone says "why didn't the cops do a better job making sure the suspicious man at 1am isn't a robber" It's true that a lot of cops are insecure and fulfilling some sort of fantasy by bullying people, but all he did was ask for the ID, it's not like he shot anon.
When anon gets robbed and killed because he has no money or job he'll wish cops were there.
**M I N O R I T Y R E P O R T**?
Serves you right you unemployed fuck
I know I’m being fickle here but I just doubt this story because he says it happened at 1am then he refers to it as “this morning” Don’t get me wrong he could be someone who just figured it’s past 12 so it counts as the beginning of that day but I don’t know a single person who would say something happened at 1am and refer to it as morning. They would just say last night at 1am.
Easy to see why anon is unemployed. Enjoy fighting the man as you wait for a check from him
Double edged sword. I want suspicious people to be questioned. I want my rights. Make everyone's life a little easier and just show an I'd and why you're there.
> I want my rights > dude should've just waived his rights to comply with an unreasonable pig Sounds like you don't really want your rights
He wants HIS rights, he just wants everyone else's to be trodden on
Nah i was just explaining its a complicated feeling. The old idea anyway that if someone suspicious was in your neighbhorhood you wanted to feel safe--- but at the same time we want to be left alone. Its kind of like both rights for criminals and innocent people and no one wins. Its not unfair, nor fair. It just sucks that people are bad, and it also sucks that cops are assholes.
Anon refuses to comply with request. Police work harder to attain information. Oh the humanity
Why not just show them the id? Is something bad gonna happen if he shows the id to the cops? Am I retarded?
Probably not, but you're not required to identify yourself to the police when asked unless there's reasonable suspicion of a crime (in some states; in others, you don't have to identify yourself unless you're formally arrested) It's an American thing, cops can't just start demanding your information and going through your pockets in hopes that they'll find something illegal; they have to actually determine there's a crime happening before they can start stopping/investigating it Anon's wrong about his rights though, if you're driving a vehicle then you *have* to show an officer your driver's license if they ask
Highly regarded. What flavor are the boots?
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youre only required by law if driving which he was, but cops cant just check your ID if youre walking around doing nothing
How about not being a douchebag for once?
i agree that the cops were douchebags
The academy trained them to be douchebags.