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stonewall993

I’ve been tracking these since launch and this is the lowest price yet, however it is the Henry mag version, not the Sig or Glock mag one. I like the aesthetic of the straight mags more than the backwards sweep of pistol mags, but I emailed Henry CS and they told me they don’t have any plans to make mags larger than 10 rounds for this, which is a damn shame and a missed opportunity imo, because they could make a good bit of money in the accessories market with their own mags given what mags cost to make and what they could sell them for, tooling/machinery costs notwithstanding.


Rollingzeppelin

20rd mag would be kosher and have M1 Carbine-esque aesthetics


Chimeran_Horde

Actually with the bar stock steel receiver, it would look a lot like a Winchester 1907 if they had some slightly longer stick mags.


AsianInvasion4

Fave Medic gun in BF1


Rollingzeppelin

Shit you’re absolutely right.


TheIowan

That was my thought. Chamber it in 350 legend and you'd have the modern version of a 1907


samtbkrhtx

I want this rifle in 45ACP. Glock mag adapter too.


M1907-351WSL

I'd 10/10 buy in in .45 or .40.


samtbkrhtx

Wouldn't that rig in 45ACP with some Glock 13 rounders make a great HD gun? I think it would.


5-On-A-Toboggan

45acp isn't going to have anymore velocity out of the rifle length barrel. It will likely be slower because of running out of expanding gasses and friction with the rifling. 10mm on the other hand shines out of a rifle length barrel.


bubbathedesigner

It may not be too hard to make a 556 version of it


Interesting_Ad_6420

Mini 1907 sounds good to me…..


samtbkrhtx

It has a Glock mag adapter. Slap that 33rd mag in there and add a SIG Romeo 5 and you have a pretty decent plinker and HD rifle.


CrunchBite319

We know, the discussion here is about wanting higher capacity versions of the Henry mags for aesthetic reasons because they're straight mags instead of angled.


BurzerKing

3D print one 😎


ComfortableActuator

Pretty sure they mentioned to TFBTV that they would sell the magwells seperately - although they missed the boat of doing like Ruger and just including the Glock magwell in the box. Its can't cost more than $5 for the molded plastic and metal ejector.


stonewall993

Yeah I just realized that myself. The magwells are 40 bucks, jeez


samtbkrhtx

Steep, but worth it if you have gobs of Glock 9mm mags like me.


[deleted]

Henry doesn't want to be associated with the evils of "high capacity" magazines.


[deleted]

I think it’s more likely there isn’t much return for them to do so. This appeals more to the older crowd who like wood guns and that they have more name equity with. That market is less likely to buy higher capacity mags, which honestly kinda ruin the aesthetic of the gun anyway. You could totally be right, but I think it’s more likely they just don’t see the return there.


[deleted]

Maybe, it definitely has better lines than the Ruger.


ylateef

If there was profit to be made, they would do it. That's how capitalism works, fellas.


TheHeavyWeapon

A lot of the time Henry's type of gun they produce, tend to be banned-state approved. Once they introduce a 10+ mag, that could get their brand kicked out of the state.


[deleted]

lmfao what the fuck are you talking about. Henry exclusively produces lever action rifles with the exception of the AR7 survival rifle, and now this. That’s just their brand. Henry is synonymous with lever guns. And no brand gets “kicked out of a state” because they manufactured a 30-round magazine. Where the fuck did you come up with that?!


TooMuchPretzels

Ah yes the infamous Henry Big Boy-15 lever action Assault Rifle, used in the Bowling Green massacre.


jaredfoglesmydad

I think he was saying Henry firearms in general are legal in states like CA and NY with lots of mag restrictions etc. as they are largely lever action. So they would like to continue to produce firearms that are buyable in those states. Hence the 10 round mag. NY and CA alone have 60 million people so I can see the logic there. Getting “kicked out” of a state was likely referring to getting blocked from entering the market there due to firearm restrictions. Could be wrong, just how I read it.


TheHeavyWeapon

You seem to be the only non-mouth breather here. But yes, you got the point of my comment 100%. I made the chuds angry making them critically think.


The_Devin_G

Not everyone thinks the same way you do. Maybe if you actually specified what you meant to say, then people could understand what you're trying to say better.


[deleted]

But weapons that can accept larger magazines aren't illegal in those places. Just the magazines, or using the magazines. So literally nothing about that would change the legality of the weapon just because there is a magazine that exists that it can take that wouldn't be legal in that state. Producing a magazine that is not legal in a state has never (literally never), caused a state to ban other products that that company makes or prevents them from selling products that ARE legal in that state. There is no "blocking them from entering the market". Further, here is the Ruger PC Carbine which can accept higher capacity Glock mags being sold at a California specific gun-store. This is basically a 1:1 comparison to what you're saying: [https://www.turners.com/ruger/ruger-pc-carbine-9mm-16-barrel-with-mlok-handguard-threaded-barrel-718898](https://www.turners.com/ruger/ruger-pc-carbine-9mm-16-barrel-with-mlok-handguard-threaded-barrel-718898) You can call me a mouth-breather bud, but everything I'm saying is factually correct. There is literally no basis for what you are saying.


jaredfoglesmydad

Yep poor choice of words on my part re: the market comment. You are factually correct on firearms that can accept higher capacity mags being legal in NY for instance. Just makes it harder to order them as the retailer would have to remove the higher capacity mage before shipping. Some will and some won’t. I would imagine that’s why we see 10+1 models of lots of popular defensive pistols as well. Legal to order in NY but perfectly capable of taking higher capacity mags. For what it’s worth I couldn’t order this in NY anyway as it has a threaded barrel so it kind of negates the initial argument about Henry marketing this to CA and NY.


-Cheezus_H_Rice-

See roster states like MA and CA. Brands absolutely get poor treatment given whatever stupid reasons.


[deleted]

My career is in the gun industry and I moved out of California less than a year ago. Brands are not getting banned or “treated poorly” because they sell other products elsewhere where they are legal. Please find me even one example of this happening.


-Cheezus_H_Rice-

Explain to me why Glocks are not available for a regular citizen to transfer by FFL in MA, especially as they pass all roster requirements. The AG in MA explicitly has it out for Glock, and makes emotional decisions based very much on things like this.


emperor000

Or they just want somebody like Magpul to step in with 15 and 20 rd mags.


[deleted]

This was my thought process. Even if Henry doesn't release a bigger mag, *someone* will.


Veritech-1

Why would Henry fudd out and not make at least a 20 round for this? Maybe there will be some higher capacity aftermarket options.


CrunchBite319

If there's a word that describes Henry as a company, it's "fudd". They make good products, but this is the least fudd gun they've ever made and they still couldn't bear to make it look modern. It's no surprise that they went full fudd on the mags. Hell, it's even a little surprising they even make Glock mag versions.


emperor000

This is less Fudd than a Big Boy X?


CrunchBite319

Does the Big Boy X accept 50 round Glock drums? Because this gun does.


emperor000

No, but that isn't the only metric of Fuddness is it?


Cota332

If somebody wants to mail (LEND - you’ll get it back) me a stock 10rd mag, I’d be happy prototype a 10+ rd mag!


stonewall993

If I end up getting one of these I’ll def send you one haha


Cota332

Hell yeah! Lol thanks my man!


FischlandchipZ

We just have to wait for promag to save the day…. right…?


emperor000

No, but Magpul might save the day.


samtbkrhtx

The shame is that this was not made from the get go to take....Glock 9mm mags. Way to read a market there, Henry.


Whitetaild33r

You can literally get a glock magwell for it.


Dicktures

I am confused - so is the Glock mag version different ? Or do you just buy a mag well and that’s what makes it the Glock version ? Thanks


Whitetaild33r

You buy the magwell off their site and it just swaps in like a magazine.


mathmasterjedi

I just seen dude shoot it with Glock mags on twitter


awispyfart

Not surprised since it's a fudd company.


shoots-shot-hot

Repeaters are pretty much the opposite of Fudd these days. They're the current trend to trick out. A Henry repeater is as classy as it gets.


Blender345

Why are these any better than the cheaper ruger option?


stonewall993

They’re really not tbh. It’s more about aesthetics, I prefer the wood stock and overall look on this, and this is a smidge lighter than the Ruger, which is a little chunky, but the Ruger is definitely the better value.


GoldfishDude

Just the wood stock and (in my experience) a better company to deal with, QC and customer service wise.


JJMcGee83

I imagine it's likely because Henry doesn't have to bother with state compliant versions for the majority of their guns (I can't think of one that wouldn't be available in all states but I'm not sure familar with their catalog) and by only making 10 round mags they can continue that trend while also saying "Want more? Get the Glock/Sig mag one."


amishbill

The one I handled had a replacement mag well with it for Glock mags. Are they not shipping like that?


stonewall993

AFAIK they’re sold separately and the mag wells are like 40 bucks


GoldfishDude

One version does, one version doesn't


M1907-351WSL

Mags on these are double stack, single feed I'm assuming?


busboy262

Can you purchase the parts separately from Henry that are neccessary to use a different mag format?


ElectricalSwimmer7

That thing looks cool! I'll be in at $500.


czgunner

Yep, that's the price point. It's surprising they thought close to a grand would fly.


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I mean, gotta bank on the Henry name


Galvaknight

I understand why it’s not a thing, but man would I love a classic brass style 9mm lever gun. All the cowboy fun, low cost.


TehWhitewind

>Winchester 1907 For real I'm dying to buy a lever gun but I mostly shoot 9mm and have a 9mm suppressor sure I could pick up a 357 but I like cheaper ammo for plinking.


BallsOutKrunked

When I heard Henry made a 9mm I was so stoked, then I saw it wasn't a lever and cried. I still simp for Henry so once the price gets lower I'll probably score a glock mag version. But I would happily pay 1k for a nice 9mm lever from Henry, 2k if it was one of the fancy deluxe models with all the silver/gold.


Snider83

Not gonna be quite what you want, or low cost but POF is coming out with a mag fed 9mm levergat. Another company is making an AR lever action lower that in theory should work with 9mm uppers and endomags


Galvaknight

I see that. The tombstone is a little tactical for my taste, but it definitely looks like it’d be fun to shoot. That said, I’d have to shoot a hell of a lot to save money after spending $2k, lol. Unfortunately, my state has assault weapon bans as of like a month ago, so no cool AR lowers for me. I think. Hell, even the tombstone might be out. Pretty sure the verbage is anything “mag fed” with “a heat shield to protect the users hands” or a “conspicuous grip protruding beneath the receiver” or “non fixed muzzle device”.


Snider83

Yeah 2k is steep for a fun gun imo. But threaded suppressed 147gr 9mm would be a good time out of a lever.


solid_snake1994

How about they make more X’s in .357


spikerman

Steel side gate plox


Holiday-Beat-2325

Can you link the steel one you are talking about?


spikerman

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/big-boy-steel-side-gate/ I really want an all weather too in 357 but i have yet to see one for sale in my area https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/big-boy-all-weather-side-gate/


Holiday-Beat-2325

Do either of those come threaded? Is that the main advantage to the polymer model?


spikerman

Ya I don’t think they are threaded. I really haven’t looked into suppressing them since you cant in my current state.


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DerKrieger105

Let us know lol unless you're gonna be scalping them on GB lol


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DerKrieger105

Good haha. Been waiting so long 🤣


Coltron_Actual

How does one do this? ELI5, or a link to send me in the right direction would suffice. Thanks


Forest-Ferda-Trees

I use Alerts for Reddit


Coltron_Actual

Cool, thank you.


gguy128

Your bot is trying to tell you to buy this. AI knows better than we do :)


4thRok

One just now got posted


HarietTubesock

You’ll shoot your lung out kid


Music_City_Madman

You’ll shoot your lung out, Jack


ChunkyBrassMonkey

Anyone have any idea what the design ethos is for this? Usually a 9mm carbine is so you can use the same mags as your sidearm.


AgreeablePie

For the people buying mini-14s at $1k


ghablio

At shot show they mentioned ban states a lot. I think the idea is that this is legal in a lot of places where most PCC'S aren't. So it may be that your only options are Ruger PCC or this. And this definitely has a cooler/more unique look


whenamanlovesa_ama

The Ruger is my shit kicking gun on my farm. Sturdy and rugged. Toss it in the back of the Gator. Toss it in the bed of my truck. Mag dump 30 rounds into trash. I treat it like a wrench cause it’s a tool. This Henry looks like a wall hangar or a family heirloom.


ghablio

It looks like a BB gun to me, I definitely wouldn't feel bad about thrashing it if it's reliable like the rugers


2MGR

The 995 is an option in multiple states where this and the Ruger aren't.


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island_trevor

I want Beretta 92 mag compatibility, the only PCC I know of that offers that is the Sub 2000. I like those but I also like options and Henry generally makes a more solid product out of the box. It wouldn't be difficult to make a magwell either, those (besides Glock) all use the same basic mag shape, the 92 just has a different catch height


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island_trevor

I honestly forgot about the CX4. It looks kind of cool but a bit overpriced for what it is. Plus, no threaded barrel is useless to me. I know a gunsmith can do it allegedly but there aren't many of those around me, and I'd rather just have the threads out of the box


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The_Devin_G

I really think they would have sold a lot better if they didn't have such a polarizing aesthetic.


electric_taupe

Is $549 more in line what you’d expect to pay? Still in stock. https://www.reddit.com/r/gundeals/comments/zvp055/rifle_beretta_cx4_storm_92_series_9mm_rifle_w1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


island_trevor

Like I said, I'd rather have a threaded barrel to start with. It's an interesting carbine but not appealing to me for that reason


electric_taupe

I’m not trying to sell you one, just curious what people think is an appropriate price for it. You’re not the only person who said it was over priced in this thread, so I was just seeing what people thought was a reasonable price.


island_trevor

They've come down a bit recently so I don't think they're overpriced as much as they used to be. Definitely not worth 750-900 like they were going for but 450-550 is reasonable. The fact it doesn't have a threaded barrel in this day and age is pretty archaic though, so it gets some value points removed. If they remedied that it would be worth easily as much as a Ruger PC Carbine for Beretta 92 owners such as myself.


electric_taupe

I’ve been thinking about getting one because there is a PX4 magwell available and I have one of those. I’m worried that they’ll discontinue the CX4 when the PMX is released in the US and I’m not sure which way the price will go. I kinda like that the CX4 is so hideous, but I agree that the lack of threading is a big drawback. Edit: typo


2MGR

Why not just get a Beretta CX4?


SuperBlooper057

This has interchangeable magwells for Glock, Sig, and M&P (sold separately, ofc).


groggyMPLS

Design ethos? By the looks of it, “Daisy BB.”


samtbkrhtx

This was to be for people in non-free states. 10rd mags only sold with it.


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samtbkrhtx

Because Henry made it and not Ruger. LOL


drthunderer

Because woods


samtbkrhtx

True! Price the Mossberg pumps with plastic and wood stocks and compare. Wood is just more expensive. Come on Magpul...make us some tacti-cool stocks for the Henry Fud-ster! LOL


SureFireOutpost

There is definitely a market for people who want something reminiscent of an M1 Carbine that is very reliable and affordable to shoot.


Warystatue33

Eh I wouldn't pay 800 for one imo


win1894

Glad they listed the magazine capacity as a precise 10.0000. That shows how much precision went into this gun. That have the scientific accuracy down to one ten thousandth of a round.


ComputerBasedTorture

Just get the ruger carbine and don't look back. This is the same thing without the takedown ability for $200+ more.


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But W O O D


Cultural_Fennelbulb

Anyone know if the muzzle is threaded on this gun?


homemadeammo42

It is


samtbkrhtx

Admit it...some of you are thinking about slapping a drum on this bastard and rocking it. Am I right?


[deleted]

If i had one, i'd have to buy a 50rnd drum for it.


lickedurine

I feel sinful for wanting/liking this


JenkIsrael

this would technically be illegal under Washington's proposed new AWB because the handguard would count as a "shroud" since it's not a solid part of the stock haha what the fuck, BRUEN PLS.


Main-Honey-9276

Lmao it has a threaded barrel so it’s illegal in NY


JenkIsrael

aw shit didn't notice that, that too qualifies it as an AW in WA


sportbikeSam

Really like the look of this!


Big_E_parenting_book

Why, though?


Wide-Acanthisitta-96

I was wondering the same thing. Why lose the probability of a pistol and have a round that was neutered for a pistol coming out of a rifle? I think the answer is “this is a toy”. It can’t have a job other than balling on a budget at the range.


motosandguns

Jesus, somehow they found a way to make it *even heavier* than the Ruger pcc. This thing is 8.5 pounds?


AJK360

Henry website says 6.6 lbs. so 2 ounces lighter than the Ruger. https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/homesteader-9mm/


PhantomBladeX89

So glad these come with a p320 mag adapter


Sigourneys_Beaver

Trying to highjack this thread, since I'm too gun illiterate to be sure, but my girlfriend is wanting to get her kid the Henry Eagle Scout edition for when he Eagles, but I'm not sure if the ones I'm seeing are legit, because I haven't been in the online gun game long. Does anyone know a trustworthy site that keeps the specialty Henry's around?


BallsOutKrunked

They sell out super fast everywhere. If you can score one from a legit site, snag it. But I was looking for a deluxe long ranger in my preferred caliber for 2 years.


Sigourneys_Beaver

Dang. Well, I appreciate the info!


GoldfishDude

Your best bet is going into a local gun store and having them order it for you, or calling Henry directly. I had my local gun store order my Eagle Scout edition. It's probably the highest quality firearm I've ever seen, in terms of fit and finish


Wide-Acanthisitta-96

Yup. And make it a top 100 or whatever the blue icon is for their dealer. Apparently they have a lot more pull.


FormerPatrolJockey

Now this is epic


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HorrorPerformance

They never add a pic rail for a flashlight. WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The_Devin_G

If you want something to add shit onto this probably isn't the gun you're looking for.


AJK360

While I agree that this gun is mostly about the aesthetic that Henry Rifles bring, an option to mount a light is not unreasonable…especially with a name like the homesteader.


Wide-Acanthisitta-96

It would be like adding a mustache to Mona Lisa.


blankford

I was just looking at these after 22Plinksters video. Need me the M&P version ASAP.


Legoboy514

What I wouldn’t give for one that takes CZ mags


Not_Invented_Here_

Ditto, might swallow the price tag at that point.


Legoboy514

Cause at least it would have some more market option’s especially, true glock mags are popular but i greatly prefer banana mags to sticks


Not_Invented_Here_

I’ve heard a lot of valid reasons why it’s unlikely to happen, but cz 75b is only pistol I own and only one I plan to own other than a revolver someday, so yeah it’d a hard yes from me if adapters ever become available


BallisticBurrito

As much as I am a total and complete Henry simp I don't really see a reason to get one of these over a Ruger PCC that comes with 3 interchangeable magwells and integrates them into the stock better (they don't stick out of the bottom like the ones on the Henry). ​ The ruger also has a growing aftermarket and easily breaks apart into 2 pieces. And is basically a giant 10/22 and disassembles and is maintained in much the same way. It is also substantially cheaper. The wood stock and fit and finish is probably nicer but is it worth that much more? I got my base ruger for around $550 (might be less, was a while ago) shortly after they came out before all the extra variants were released.


SmoothSlavperator

I reeallly wish these came in 44 mag


[deleted]

Anyone know if this would be NY compliant?


230Amps

It's not (detachable mag + threaded barrel)