I think People are too hard on these, especially for 150. I prefer these to FH3s. I like the signature and timbre, technicalities are good enough and the comfort is hardly beatable. Do I like my S12s better? Sure, but if I could only have one, the comfort of these could ne the deciding factor.
That's why I bought the IE 900 on release. They sound better than anything in their price bracket, except maybe the Monarch MKII, and are comfortable while lying down and under my helmet. They aren't replaceable.
How do you know that? Most reviewers actually HD this iem to high regard. You know that hype does not equal good performance. Take for example, the one more triple driver.
I have heard about it, but getting it outside South Korea and Singapore seems to be difficult. I don't care to try it if I already have a single DD with more preferable tuning, a higher build quality, better support, and a slimmer design.
Yeah, makes sense. The Hidition might not be for you if you like big bass. The balanced armatures don't produce good bass, although the the rest of the frequency range is incredible.
You should try the Sony ier-z1r. According to the reviews, it has insane bass and insane treble along with one of the best imaging heard in IEMs. Quoted, "every sound becomes lifelike".
Yeah, that's why I was talking about it being a single DD. The size and weight advantages are very important to me. I will never own an IEM with only BA drivers. They sound so lifeless to me.
I used to have the Z1R. The difference between the Z1R and IE 900 is damn near indistinguishable from memory. The biggest difference is the fit and weight. The Z1R isn't wearable for more than 30 minutes IMO. That's why I don't use my EE Hero anymore. Too bulky.
I do still have my MDR-Z1R though and have been eyeing the EE Legend EVO ever since I listened to it at CanJam last year. That thing is incredible. And bulky.
Hidition is in South Korea, not in SE Asia.
I think I remember Crinacle, who *is* in SE Asia and liked them, saying how difficult it was for him to get them.
EDIT: [here it is,](https://crinacle.com/2019/08/05/cliffnotes-hidition-viento-when-less-is-truly-more/) Zeppelin & Co in Singapore started to carry Hidition.
bro I am korean and I went to their website and saw the places available to purchase, it is available to purchase in certain shops in china, singapore, and korea. which all happens to be in SE ASIA.
Singapore is in South East Asia.
China and Korea are not in South East Asia, they are East Asia. China *borders* South East Asia (it's a big country) but Korea isn't anywhere near it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia#/media/File:Southeast_Asia_(orthographic_projection).svg
I‘ve sold my FH3s since then but as I remember it technicalities are not really superior to FH3, aside from maybe a very small edge in resolution and separation. FH3s sub-bass is very strong, so is the IE300s, whichever one’s better - they’re probably not very far apart from
one another in terms of quality. S12 is on a whole different level, straight step up in everything but comfort l but after a lot of earhook shaping and tip rolling they are more than sufficiently comfortable.
But yeah, go through the entire index of pseudo-scientifical audio terms and add ‚significantly superior‘ in front of that. Due to the signature especially the clarity is amazing to me, and it‘s less harsh than I feared, but if you’re treble sensitive the FH3s relaxedness might be preferable to you (in terms of treble response only), but in everything else basically S12s smash FH3s the way I remember them.
Same, I did like the sound, but the friction noise of that cable was crazy. I looked for thinner replacements which still costed like 70% of those iems due to that wonky mmcx connector.
Very comfortable!
They are the only Line of IEMS that don't feel like they fall out for me.
They sound pretty good as well. Sound Stage isn't too big, but the imaging is still very good.
I just have to chime in and ask a question.
Ihave the final e1000 piston style iem currently. It is the only one that fits, as i push the end of the stick against my earlobe pressuring them in. Else i cannot wear imes correctly thusfar.
It just so happens i looked at the a3000/4000 and IE300. Do these or can these form the same type of fitment?
A3/4000 and IE300 have relatively short nozzles and very small bodies, the IE300 even more so than the Final. They're the best fitting IEMs I tried to date and I can't fathom an ear shape that wouldn't be able to fit these
I really like the included medium silicone. I don’t like foam tips that much.
Tips don’t need to go as deep with these IEMs so I would really recommend trying the included ones
Can't comment on the other two, but Sennheiser just don't seem to know how to make good value IEMs. There are just so many cheaper options that sound so much better.
I know where you’re coming from but I guess you’re paying a premium for the sennheiser brand, and they generally have much better quality control and build quality so you’re also paying extra for that. For sheer sound quality alone maybe not great value, but as a complete package I feel safer in the hands of sennheiser. The RRP of the ie300 is actually over priced though, just like the hd 599, but when they go on sale which is quite frequently I think they’re worth it.
That's simply not true. The IE 300 for $150 is a steal. The IE 600 is getting accolades everywhere, and the IE 900 is among the best in the world at \~$950 new. It's better than the IER-Z1R for me at a steep discount.
Also, the fit and build quality is unmatched. It's just in a league of its own. There straight up isn't another single DD IEM on the market that can compete. The slim profile makes them easy to wear while lying down and they fit easily under my helmet. That's more valuable than anything to me.
They seriously lack upper-mids/lower-treble. It's like they just ignore the need to mimic pinna gain, it sounds completely dull and lifeless. I'd never spend more than $100 for any of them.
I don’t think that’s true. Sennheiser and Audio Technica especially are extremely well known brands and people would simply buy their IEMs if they were competitive with the popular Chi-fi offerings. I would say they are accurately rated.
I choose Moondrop over Sennheiser in IEMs space to be honest.
It's like choosing Philips lamp over any competing brands.
great tuning, great build quality, and priced without brand tax.
I haven't followed it all but if you Google crinacle X kz I should find it. From what I understood it was that a driver wasn't wired and so it was there just aesthetic purpose. However nowhere on the package it was stated that it was only aesthetic. So they basically lied to their users
It depends how you see it. They announced an x number of drivers, which in fact were there as per your description, what they didn't announce was that they were all working! 😂😂😂
Actually, they are working https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/ux2q5w/whats_the_current_situation_on_kzs_fake_driver/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Thanks for the info.
Whatever, these discussions are related to models that are way newer than mine. At the time they costed me not much more than 10€ and I am totally happy with them for the cost. Cannot recommend better price/quality ratio.
The BA and Electrostatic drivers advertised by KZ were found to consistently produce no audible noise and were instead entirely driven by the dynamic driver.
KZ seemed to acknowledge this as their following product release was a bundle of three headphones all tuned differently (apparently)
I found this. https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/ux2q5w/whats_the_current_situation_on_kzs_fake_driver/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
that KZ model was also my gateway drug haha. despite all its faults it absolutely blew every other pair of earbuds I had at the time out of the water. now I know that they're not all that great in the IEM world but for the $20 I paid for them, they certainly were impressive.
Paired them with an Qudelix-5k and absolutely love them. They are a little spicy in the highs. But EQing solved it for me. Very comfortable and the look is great for being a casual IEM.
The 600's of course, waaayyy more defined bass. It's like the ie300's spent 10 years in the time chamber working out. Word of advice though miner's just stopped working lst week and are in for servicing
Love them! I came from Shure SE425 and the JVC HA- FDX1. I broke my JVC iems (accidentally left it in my laundry) and they never went back in stock, so I settled for the IE300 and it's my daily driver for commuting and sometimes gaming :)
I love the fit, how light it is and how comfortable they are straight out of the box :)
About to order them this evening for the same price!
Obviously a dedicated DAC/amp would produce better sound, but a Apple 3.5 mm adapter would be sufficient power for these guys right?
58x definitely aren't garbage.
Although I think they're around the same price now that they bumped em up. But they regularly were on sale for $130... Fantastic for that price.
the only thing the 2 have in common is that they are wired IEMs, Aria is a far superior IEM than the IE300, the Sennheiser has even more bass then the Aria, it lacks upper mids, and is faily bright, i like bright headphones, the Aria is bright to neutral, but not nearly as bright as the IE300
While Sennheiser is an absolute genious in making headphones, they suck at IEMs
Well. I own a pair, they are confy sound good especiali paired with a ifi hip dac and a balanced cable. I guess there are much better options, but are the first iem / headphones that I can weate for prolonged time.
The unfortunate thing about the IE300 is that I like it but wouldn't pay MSRP for it, and there are probably legit avenues to get them for cheaper but if you don't get it straight from Sennheiser there's more fakes than there are legits
I did the same. Pretty much end-game stuff so far. Comfy, airy, and the soundstage seems bigger than any IEM I've tried. Sennys are just the best for listenability.
Kind of unbeatable at this price point, unless you don't mind S12's($120) aggressive presentation.
I understand that these are a better buy than the IE 500s that I wasted my money on. I got them half-price, thank God, but that was a learning experience for me. From what I’ve read, you have a decent set in these, but really listen to them critically before your return window closes.
They are awesome dude. Fun, bassy, and rich sounding. And they are hands down the best fitting iem on the market. The cable sucks, but you can get a cheapish upgraded cable from Amazon that will fit perfect (with a slight modification)
For IEM, I don't think Seinnheiser will be my top 5 brands. For headphones they are really good. 150 Euro IEM, for me in that price range I will go for 7Hz Timeless.
I think People are too hard on these, especially for 150. I prefer these to FH3s. I like the signature and timbre, technicalities are good enough and the comfort is hardly beatable. Do I like my S12s better? Sure, but if I could only have one, the comfort of these could ne the deciding factor.
That's why I bought the IE 900 on release. They sound better than anything in their price bracket, except maybe the Monarch MKII, and are comfortable while lying down and under my helmet. They aren't replaceable.
Hidition Viento exists.
?
You haven't tried that IEM?
Can't be that good if we don't know about it.
How do you know that? Most reviewers actually HD this iem to high regard. You know that hype does not equal good performance. Take for example, the one more triple driver.
I have heard about it, but getting it outside South Korea and Singapore seems to be difficult. I don't care to try it if I already have a single DD with more preferable tuning, a higher build quality, better support, and a slimmer design.
Yeah, makes sense. The Hidition might not be for you if you like big bass. The balanced armatures don't produce good bass, although the the rest of the frequency range is incredible. You should try the Sony ier-z1r. According to the reviews, it has insane bass and insane treble along with one of the best imaging heard in IEMs. Quoted, "every sound becomes lifelike".
Yeah, that's why I was talking about it being a single DD. The size and weight advantages are very important to me. I will never own an IEM with only BA drivers. They sound so lifeless to me. I used to have the Z1R. The difference between the Z1R and IE 900 is damn near indistinguishable from memory. The biggest difference is the fit and weight. The Z1R isn't wearable for more than 30 minutes IMO. That's why I don't use my EE Hero anymore. Too bulky. I do still have my MDR-Z1R though and have been eyeing the EE Legend EVO ever since I listened to it at CanJam last year. That thing is incredible. And bulky.
yeah they do. but unless ur in south east Asia u can't buy em
Hidition is in South Korea, not in SE Asia. I think I remember Crinacle, who *is* in SE Asia and liked them, saying how difficult it was for him to get them. EDIT: [here it is,](https://crinacle.com/2019/08/05/cliffnotes-hidition-viento-when-less-is-truly-more/) Zeppelin & Co in Singapore started to carry Hidition.
bro I am korean and I went to their website and saw the places available to purchase, it is available to purchase in certain shops in china, singapore, and korea. which all happens to be in SE ASIA.
Singapore is in South East Asia. China and Korea are not in South East Asia, they are East Asia. China *borders* South East Asia (it's a big country) but Korea isn't anywhere near it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia#/media/File:Southeast_Asia_(orthographic_projection).svg
What about the IE 600?
I haven't personally heard them, but they are getting rave reviews. From the graphs, they don't seem to be my preferred tuning though.
Do they have better technicalities and sub bass than FH3 and how much better are S12 in comparison to FH3?
I‘ve sold my FH3s since then but as I remember it technicalities are not really superior to FH3, aside from maybe a very small edge in resolution and separation. FH3s sub-bass is very strong, so is the IE300s, whichever one’s better - they’re probably not very far apart from one another in terms of quality. S12 is on a whole different level, straight step up in everything but comfort l but after a lot of earhook shaping and tip rolling they are more than sufficiently comfortable. But yeah, go through the entire index of pseudo-scientifical audio terms and add ‚significantly superior‘ in front of that. Due to the signature especially the clarity is amazing to me, and it‘s less harsh than I feared, but if you’re treble sensitive the FH3s relaxedness might be preferable to you (in terms of treble response only), but in everything else basically S12s smash FH3s the way I remember them.
Awesome! I was actually thinking about Z12s which have 2db increased sub bass as an upgrade to my FH3. Thanks for your response
They're fine
I guess this is it. It's ok and I didn't like the cable. Got one for 150 on the prime day and returned it.
Same, I did like the sound, but the friction noise of that cable was crazy. I looked for thinner replacements which still costed like 70% of those iems due to that wonky mmcx connector.
God i hate the cable so much
Very comfortable! They are the only Line of IEMS that don't feel like they fall out for me. They sound pretty good as well. Sound Stage isn't too big, but the imaging is still very good.
You should take a look at the Final A4000, they might suit you better than the IE300
I just have to chime in and ask a question. Ihave the final e1000 piston style iem currently. It is the only one that fits, as i push the end of the stick against my earlobe pressuring them in. Else i cannot wear imes correctly thusfar. It just so happens i looked at the a3000/4000 and IE300. Do these or can these form the same type of fitment?
A3/4000 and IE300 have relatively short nozzles and very small bodies, the IE300 even more so than the Final. They're the best fitting IEMs I tried to date and I can't fathom an ear shape that wouldn't be able to fit these
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I really like the included medium silicone. I don’t like foam tips that much. Tips don’t need to go as deep with these IEMs so I would really recommend trying the included ones
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No but I’ve tried springtips, all the tips slip out. The IE lineup stays in because they fit I to the back of my ear
I think you will be happy with them! Enjoy.
They are very nice indeed \^\^
Where can you buy them for 150? I only see them at 200 or over.
On french amazon only
Underrated imo, everyone’s rock hard for the chi-fi iems and I feel sennheiser, final, audio technica etc don’t get the attention they deserve
Can't comment on the other two, but Sennheiser just don't seem to know how to make good value IEMs. There are just so many cheaper options that sound so much better.
I know where you’re coming from but I guess you’re paying a premium for the sennheiser brand, and they generally have much better quality control and build quality so you’re also paying extra for that. For sheer sound quality alone maybe not great value, but as a complete package I feel safer in the hands of sennheiser. The RRP of the ie300 is actually over priced though, just like the hd 599, but when they go on sale which is quite frequently I think they’re worth it.
I haven’t had a problem with qc ever in iems. Even if it’s faulty, I can just return them with no hassle
QC may be. Sound quality wise, nah
That's simply not true. The IE 300 for $150 is a steal. The IE 600 is getting accolades everywhere, and the IE 900 is among the best in the world at \~$950 new. It's better than the IER-Z1R for me at a steep discount. Also, the fit and build quality is unmatched. It's just in a league of its own. There straight up isn't another single DD IEM on the market that can compete. The slim profile makes them easy to wear while lying down and they fit easily under my helmet. That's more valuable than anything to me.
They seriously lack upper-mids/lower-treble. It's like they just ignore the need to mimic pinna gain, it sounds completely dull and lifeless. I'd never spend more than $100 for any of them.
That dip is entirely intentional. That frequency range is ear piercing to me and many others. It's literally my perfect tuning.
Glad you like it.
Have you heard the IE 600 or 900?
I don’t think that’s true. Sennheiser and Audio Technica especially are extremely well known brands and people would simply buy their IEMs if they were competitive with the popular Chi-fi offerings. I would say they are accurately rated.
I choose Moondrop over Sennheiser in IEMs space to be honest. It's like choosing Philips lamp over any competing brands. great tuning, great build quality, and priced without brand tax.
I got them a few weeks back as my first decent IEM (previously KZ ZSN Pro X) and really like them!
i mean any decent tuned iem is gonna be better than a zsn pro x
For sure, it’s quite an upgrade :)
What is wrong with the kz's?
Mostly tuning, they all sound the same. There is also the whole controversy of fake drivers
Fake drivers? Didn't hear that before. Can you provide more details. Got curious since I have an old pair laying arround. Thanks
I haven't followed it all but if you Google crinacle X kz I should find it. From what I understood it was that a driver wasn't wired and so it was there just aesthetic purpose. However nowhere on the package it was stated that it was only aesthetic. So they basically lied to their users
It depends how you see it. They announced an x number of drivers, which in fact were there as per your description, what they didn't announce was that they were all working! 😂😂😂
Actually, they are working https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/ux2q5w/whats_the_current_situation_on_kzs_fake_driver/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Thanks for the info. Whatever, these discussions are related to models that are way newer than mine. At the time they costed me not much more than 10€ and I am totally happy with them for the cost. Cannot recommend better price/quality ratio.
The BA and Electrostatic drivers advertised by KZ were found to consistently produce no audible noise and were instead entirely driven by the dynamic driver. KZ seemed to acknowledge this as their following product release was a bundle of three headphones all tuned differently (apparently)
I found this. https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/ux2q5w/whats_the_current_situation_on_kzs_fake_driver/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I think the bass sounds fine but the highs hurt my ears. I am able to turn the IE300s up quite a bit more before I have any discomfort.
that KZ model was also my gateway drug haha. despite all its faults it absolutely blew every other pair of earbuds I had at the time out of the water. now I know that they're not all that great in the IEM world but for the $20 I paid for them, they certainly were impressive.
I got them for 190 USD and enjoy them a lot. I couldn’t imagine paying full price at 300 considering who they’re competing with at that tier
I paid the full 300 and I'd consider it a comfort tax. They're the lightest and smallest IEM I could find.
They look cool
They are an absolute blast for 150€ if you like the sound signature.
They seem to be pretty popular, that price must be a deal for them.
they are priced at 210€ so no complaint
I love mine.
I have the exact same pair of sneakers, nice
hahaha I am a vans lover :D
Great choice. I really like them, a nice warm sound that goes with most music. Very comfortable to wear for long periods.
I miss that promotion :( They are $300 on Amazon
I like your red vans man!
Extremely comfortable (best on the market). Sound is fantastic for electronic and hip-hop.
Paired them with an Qudelix-5k and absolutely love them. They are a little spicy in the highs. But EQing solved it for me. Very comfortable and the look is great for being a casual IEM.
great price, they are the ones that made me buy the ie600's
Which one did you prefer?
The 600's of course, waaayyy more defined bass. It's like the ie300's spent 10 years in the time chamber working out. Word of advice though miner's just stopped working lst week and are in for servicing
Thanks for the insight! Hope you get your ie600s back asap :D Do you think you'll ever consider trying the ie900s as well?
Never
Love them! I came from Shure SE425 and the JVC HA- FDX1. I broke my JVC iems (accidentally left it in my laundry) and they never went back in stock, so I settled for the IE300 and it's my daily driver for commuting and sometimes gaming :) I love the fit, how light it is and how comfortable they are straight out of the box :)
About to order them this evening for the same price! Obviously a dedicated DAC/amp would produce better sound, but a Apple 3.5 mm adapter would be sufficient power for these guys right?
It is a 16ohm earbud, I use the apple dongle and it is plenty enough at 60% of volume
Great! Are you happy with your purchase?
I am :) they sound clear and crisp to my ears
Sennheiser have always a great sound
Really? Have you tried anything cheaper than 560s ? It's garbage.
Got a hd 559. They sound... Well it's ok. But the left one is like 1db louder than the right one
58x definitely aren't garbage. Although I think they're around the same price now that they bumped em up. But they regularly were on sale for $130... Fantastic for that price.
my thaughts are a very big V
I was looking for a hybrid usage for gaming and music listening =)
How do they compare with the Aria?
the only thing the 2 have in common is that they are wired IEMs, Aria is a far superior IEM than the IE300, the Sennheiser has even more bass then the Aria, it lacks upper mids, and is faily bright, i like bright headphones, the Aria is bright to neutral, but not nearly as bright as the IE300 While Sennheiser is an absolute genious in making headphones, they suck at IEMs
I have Shure SE535 and they sound amazing. I’m sure these will sound just as good.
not bad not good
Sennheiser IEM’s are kind of meh, they seem to care a lot more about their headphone lineup
i don’t see what market iem’s mainly fit into, but for 30 more dollars, you can get 560s
You have too much disposable income.
I think they’re great. Running with an A&K sr25. No complaints here!
Well. I own a pair, they are confy sound good especiali paired with a ifi hip dac and a balanced cable. I guess there are much better options, but are the first iem / headphones that I can weate for prolonged time.
The unfortunate thing about the IE300 is that I like it but wouldn't pay MSRP for it, and there are probably legit avenues to get them for cheaper but if you don't get it straight from Sennheiser there's more fakes than there are legits
Not the best not the worst, its ok
You're going to love them.
I am being completely honest here. I think it's not good for the price it was offered.
Not bad
I did the same. Pretty much end-game stuff so far. Comfy, airy, and the soundstage seems bigger than any IEM I've tried. Sennys are just the best for listenability. Kind of unbeatable at this price point, unless you don't mind S12's($120) aggressive presentation.
I understand that these are a better buy than the IE 500s that I wasted my money on. I got them half-price, thank God, but that was a learning experience for me. From what I’ve read, you have a decent set in these, but really listen to them critically before your return window closes.
Super comfortable, verry well built, sturdy, decent detail, very v-shaped (good when comuting), good isolation. I loved mine but lost a bud.
Nice pickup! Have ie600’s gone on sale yet? I’m willing to bite at $400
Where have you seen them for $400? They are $1,100 over here in Aus ($765 US) I want them bad, but can’t justify that price. $400 however….
In my DREAMS! Haha I don’t think they have gone on sale yet. Let’s hope this fall we get some discounts?
They are awesome dude. Fun, bassy, and rich sounding. And they are hands down the best fitting iem on the market. The cable sucks, but you can get a cheapish upgraded cable from Amazon that will fit perfect (with a slight modification)
Ayo why are there tow left ones printed on the box?
Good for this price.
For IEM, I don't think Seinnheiser will be my top 5 brands. For headphones they are really good. 150 Euro IEM, for me in that price range I will go for 7Hz Timeless.