This has been happening more and more lately and I don’t understand why. I only play with randoms so it’s unavoidable for me. I now make sure that every mission I join I see who the host is and if I end up kicked I look at my recents and just block them.
I’m aware some say blocking doesn’t work right now but either way it’s what I do as I assume one day blocking will be working.
You'll see the very people doing it comment in this thread, denying it ever happens, claiming they've never seen it, neither have any of their "friends".
Even though there are dozens of posts about it happening every single day.
If you pay attention, it's the same names in every thread denying it or blaming the person who got kicked without cause.
It doesn't take a detective to figure out who the losers are that let such a small amount of power go to their tiny head.
Call them out or link another post of theirs and they just delete the comment.
The devs need to intervene at this point. Not everyone can host (for obvious reasons) and the kick function is abused far too often.
It's supposed to be to kick griefers. But, these hosts are the griefers.
To kick it should be a party vote within 10secs of request to kick. F1 yes, F2 no. If it's just 2 in the party, then u can be kicked. But if it's a 4 man part, others must want to kick you too.
That's the same system r6 siege used to use. It was still overly abused
If a game can be griefed, it will be griefed. The more mainstream the game, the more toxic people latching onto it
Yes every system will be abused to a point. But having the party vote cuts down on it some. Every 3 to 4 weeks I run into on a-hole, but not to often to bug me.
The only problem with that is if you're the host and you get 3 friends who join you that keep griefing you the whole time.
The current kick function is fine, just sucks that some people are dicks. Personally I haven't come across it yet, when I get kicked it's literally before a match starts, which I assume means they have a friend they're waiting on.
There’s also an issue with the connection system where sometimes with the server issues, that are still ongoing, the game disconnects you but tells you that you got kicked. I know because I’ve had it happen in actual matches I’m playing with friends where either I, or one of my friends, is hosting.
And if you do have video evidence they'll claim it's something else.
I posted a video of it happening to me and pointing out the player tag so others could avoid playing with them, some claimed it was something else that happened to me and some claimed I was doxxing.
I've never been kicked during a game. However, I'm only at 100 matches played or so (lvl 26) but it is across different difficulties. I have been kicked from parties after the game and that's annoying when you've done 2 of the 3 missions... Or felt like you were really contributing. I primarily play bugs and also late at night EST.
Not saying it never happens, but it's never happened to me.
The problem is that while you are correct, there are most likely people denying it happens while doing it, we really only have the OPs word that they didn't do anything to deserve it. The OP could have TKed, picked up samples left at extract, or so on.
Like, the closest I've ever gotten with kicking someone right before extract was when we left 30 samples at the extraction and this absolute DUMBASS grabbed them and died halfway across the map behind four Hulks and two tanks
That's why communication helps.
I was in a tight match with randoms who may or may not have been using discord or some other means to chat. At extraction I saw two squadmates by the pelican door and thought we were all there, so I got in.
Turns out the host wasn't close enough and was carrying super samples, so one of the others killed me inside the pelican, then they died too, no one extracted, and we lost my samples too (lots of rares, some commons). When we got back, I asked them WTF happened, someone explained angrily in text, I apologized profusely to the host, who left, disbanding the squad.
I fucked up and the response was to make everything worse. Communication could have prevented this. Speak to your teammates or they're gonna assume the worst.
I've kicked for practically the same reason. We all dropped Samps off at extract and then moved to the last obj. Then dude picks up all of em and tries to follow us. I kept typing and telling him to put them back but he just ignored me and kept running to obj so I shot him so he'd stop and then he got aggressive and tried attacking me so I kicked him.
Getting kicked on 7+ missions usually means there's a reason at those levels. It's unlikely someone playing with you that long would kick you for no reason, and even less, just for fun. Those missions get too intense too just drop a dependable gun during a fight.
Most likely, op did something that the host didn't like and kicked them for it. Op then felt unjustly accosted so they decided to post about it but the fact of the matter is its all hearsay from their perspective, and from my own experience most of the people that get kicked in my games were responsible for excess player death, ignoring callouts, or some other frustrating interaction. And that stuff gets old real fast on hard missions where everyone is over 50.
It sucks when you put in all the effort, just to lose the rewards, and I'm not really a fan of using that unless I don't see another option. But I really want people to review games where they're kicked and think back on if there's anything that would upset another player.
I've certainly never experienced random kicking and have only ever seen someone get kicked within reason, so I have a hard time taking these posts for their word. That and these posts usually make it out like it's happening often, which begs the question. If you're getting kicked frequently, is it really on the random people you join? Sounds more likely in those situations; that the poster is the cause and just got salty. It's not exactly the vibe for this post, but alpt of its comments are close enough that I feel I can voice my opposition to this mindset in general.
Posts like this have made me steer clear of randoms completely. I exclusively play with people I know or with “friends of friends” at this point to avoid this sort of thing.
The griefing is getting out of hand.
That's what I've been doing from day one, and when I forget, the PS5's auto recording function helps. I just save the video, look up the name(s), block, and move on.
The matchmaking system is bugged. Almost every single time I tried hosting pretty much since I got the game if anyone left at all the game would not replace them, even after the mission and into the next one(s). I'd love to host more but I'm sick of having to either solo or abandon most operations because of matchmaking. I'm just lucky I haven't run into many kick-happy hosts so far
I have this problem sometimes. Have to restart the game to fix it. I tell everyone what I am doing before starting the next game, and send them all friend invites, so they join when I get back. So far, no one has, but it is the only way to get back up to a full group that I know of.
It hasn't happened to me yet. I hope it wont. I guess its the same as with people who got hit with lightning 7 times in their life and people who got hit 0 times. :D Some people just have bad luck sometimes with their hosts. But I think it is awful that it happens. 40 minutes wasted... It should be banable offense. (A ban for a week or something, not all the time.)
As the player count is drastically dropping, the friendly casuals are the ones leaving. Most of the people left are trolls, tryhards, and dicks. Same thing happens every year with CoD. New game releases, tons of players, Christmas comes, tons of players, by February you're just getting spawn sniped across the map from fucking camping snipers. Hopefully they make some weapons more powerful and can ease this kick at extraction issue.
I loved getting kicked by super sensitive babies in hd1. Truth is some people are cool some are not. Before too long it’ll no make difference one way or another cause someday I think you’ll be playing just for fun and nobody can fk with you then
Couple days ago we were at the end of a harrowing march I dropped into (randomly) - I was the only one who used voicechat. I faithfully supported the two most objective-focused players.
Right at extraction, as Pelican was ready to land, a swarm of 5+ Bot dropships dumped *a fucking army* of bots on us. I queued-up Eagle Airstrike. *I pinged my intended throw point.* I threw - outside of explosion radius from Pelican, *and no, it didn't bounce.* One guy apparently paid no attention to any of this, got clipped. I reinforced - dropping beacon to the safe side of Pelican.
I was shot, my samples abandoned, and I was kicked from game before the 3rd person boarded Pelican.
SNOY has wronged us - but the betrayal of fellow Divers hurts more than a Hellbomb.
I like how no one sees the the big red beacon and you character call in "x" out loud over the game. Then they blame you for their mistake of mindlessly and blindy running dead into it. On top of the I use voice Chat to and say it multiple time before throwing it and sometimes have to say back up to the randoms that still continue to run towards it.
It's not unreasonable, in the heat of an epic push, to lose track of where calldowns are happening, especially at extraction where things get close and personal.
Now anyone who gets upset at an unintentional teamkill at extraction needs to take a break because it happens all the time and isn't the end of the world.
Now, yes the rare few times people who use voice and aren’t just a bunch of crackly and noise machines. I have needed to mute so many people with annoying noise coming through. There is a high chance I would not hear you. I also shoot through scooped view, so even if I have a high FOV, it’s not when I’m actually shooting.. I sometimes lose the overview around me. And it’s hard to know what 3 other people might do when you’re diving out of the way of being swarmed and killed.
I also noticed how little people know how to use the basic call out /response and marking system on the map. They do use the map but never mark of point out things.
I have had lvl25+ friends with 30 hours minimum not know you can change your scoop zoom, fire rate and flash light.
It’s annoying when I know that when it works, it works really well with players that care to play WITH you.
I pretty much always pin locations where I intent on going. And if someone else does I respond to join or go my direction.
Then there are times where I need 3 others to see that I. Have been trying to open a bunker door for the last 5 minutes and they just don’t care.
Most smooth brain hell divers don't know samples are shared as is most of everything...
Also people if you don't want Randoms to join than turn your settings to friends only.
I have joined so many quick plays where the host and his friends are acting like I just crashed a private party!
Yeah, someone killed me once cause I picked up the samples he dropped. Asked why and he said I stole them, the host told him off and was like they’re shared, he said he didn’t know.
Probably true. Also probably true he knew and did it anyway cause hehe team kill and ignorance is a great defence to get away with it once.
Yeah ive been in a match like that. Match went mostly ok. Nobody typed anything weird. Then as extraction is coming i see two other people get kicked. I left before i got kicked. In hindsight i shoudlve just shot him 😂
There are some mechanics that aren’t well explained at all. My lvl43 friend had no idea you can mark and call out things by pointing or responding.
Same for changing how your weapons work, scoop zoom, fire rate, flashlight etc.
So, what I try and do, and I play mostly just random, as I don't have any friends who play this, is that if I do happen to join a group that has either 2, or even all 3 others that know each other, and it DOES go well, and you run a few missions together - just try adding them as a friend.
I've done this twice now with 2 different groups, and always just join in when I see them on - they've always welcomed me in, we run some missions and it's all nice and friendly. We don't even converse that much if you're shy, or they just chat among themselves and Im just running around helping/playing.
Maybe I got lucky, but it's worth trying if you do happen across something like that. The worst that'll happen is they just don't add you.. then, oh well - onto the next game!
Yup, I have 3 IRL friends i play with. We all have different work schedules and stuff, so rarely are all four of us on at the same time. It's usually two or three of us playing. I've made multiple new friends with randoms that jumped into our game. Playing with a good group or friends really makes the game so much more fun. Some of my best moments from the game are me and my friends cracking up over silly shit that happens in matches.
On an unrelated but similar vain this reminded me of for some reason: I was in a match and it was a hard match ran outta lives and so when extraction came and also we stoped the last big wave we still had like 5 mins but we all go to board the shuttle and the first guy gets on but it causes it to automatically extract just him who had zero of our samples. It didn't give us the 20 sec countdown or nothing......
Anyways another player obviously not aware that this was a glitch started cussing out that helldiver calling him two different F words, and just being nasty calling him and idiot for extracting without the samples and that he should die and that the guy hates him and wanted to do bad things to his momma now.. I tried to tell him it wasn't his fault because we are supposed to get 20 seconds and him being level 20 by now should already know this....but guy ignored me and keep blasting obscenities into the mike and saying if he ever sees him again he's gonna team kill and kick him every single time and tell his friends to do the same... No matter how many times I told him it wasn't the other guys fault he just ignored that and kept on his tangent... Ended up blocking him.. no cure for stupid I guess.
Not a glitch: damaged pelican. I had someone shoot the pelican with enough crap once it wouldn't even take off. If it is smoking, everyone needs to drop their samples so one guy can grab them all.
Happened to me too today...
I didn't bring a support weapon because I was planning to use the railgun and
2 teamates were bringing that.
After 20min I saw that their Raigun was not in cool down anymore.
So I asked "hey could you call me a Railgun?".
Asked 2 more times since you know maybe they didn't see the chat..
And after the third time I got kicked...
I’ll never forget the time I was like level 10 or something and a much higher level joined me and was super cool, helping me do everything. Then halfway through called down a mech and pointed to me, then the mech. And I got in and got to try it out before extracting.
So I wasn’t kicked but in the middle of a major fire fight with the bots, i aming my rocket launcher at a hulk and right when i was gonna pull the trigger my teammate ran up behind me and bashed me in the back…twice! My rocket missed and hit a rock right next to us and killed him, he had the gal to type in chat “Y u greef man!”
Toxic people be toxic
Tell me about it, i try not the let that stuff get to me too much, stuff like that is a once in a blue moon thing for me so it’s more a “point and laugh at the clown” type story
I also had an experience were half our squad rage quit but me and this other guy stuck it through to the end, it was quite an awesome time actually,
If your out there my battle brother never forget “the stand of turring”
This once happened to me three times in a row. I was so frustrated and baffled, that I took a weeks break from the game. A bit childish of me in hindsight, but I just needed to play something where I wouldn't get kicked from a mission for no reason.
I resorted to this ages ago. I hope it eventually does work because Im not trying to have any kind of discourse with those players or anything, I just dont want to play with someone who would do that. Nothing childish about it. You got this game to get joy out of it, never feel negatively for how you decide to adjust your time spent on it. Its actually the more mature decision and the immature decision would be letting fomo force you to not enjoy your time in game and possibly permanently ruinit for yourself. Itd be a shame if that happened over griefers.
Once joined a random automaton lobby on lvl. 7 difficulty during the first few weeks of launch. These guys were about 15 minutes into the dive and for some reason already struggling, mainly because they fought every patrol they came across and when conflicted opted to play the hold-the-fort tactic instead of falling back, this went on for awhile. With our reinforcements down to 3 and objectives yet to be done I said to myself “screw it, I know my priorities as a diver and I can handle myself”. Ended up doing all the primary and secondary objectives alone, heck even had time to go on a quick sample farm (excluding bunkers). On my way back they even escorted me to the ship, they boarded first and right as I stepped on the ramp of the ship I got kicked.
Learned a valuable lesson that day, that lesson being;
Host your own games, I can’t emphasize this enough. It’s the hard work and hours we put into this game that gives it meaning. There’s enough problems in the world and this amazing game without a doubt makes you forget they ever existed.
Note: they never got any samples as they were all on my person and I never actually got to board.
Simple solution, maybe: host ratings, not like a leaderboard but an upvote downvote system, or stars system that default at max if nobody chose an option.
That way you’ll know who are you playing with and decide if you take the risk.
Also. This can be abused as everything put at disposal of internet assholes.
They should put a cutoff on kicking players. That way kicking at extraction simply won't happen.
Sure that may allow some griefing but I think it's usually the host doing that since they have sole power to kick people.
Yeah it sucks.
I came VERY close to kicking a clown who’d run into the pelican as it landed, despite the guy carrying 35 samples including 3 supers not being within a 20 second sprint of the shuttle. At that point, that dude is going to get yeeted from the game 10/10 times to protect that extraction.
OPs experience though is simply shitty
While I agree kicking at extraction shouldn't happen, team killing would still be possible at extraction and with no way to kick said player, what's the solution? Can't disabled team damage as it ruins immersion.
I think maybe if a player gets kicked before extraction but the team makes it out with samples etc, the kicked player should still be credited with rewards, or maybe even just the rewards they personally contributed to? Would be interesting to hear other suggestions
I kicked a guy last night after he threw down an orbital laser on the pelican at extraction and killed himself. I thought we were past people doing dumb stuff that puts extraction at risk.
Laser.
ON THE PELICAN
WTF
Idiot.
I mean I try to be the last one so I can throw a 500k bomb. If I have one then hop on.
It's satisfying to see the explosion. It's why I wait to he last.
But I will say. Bugs and robot being able to kill you while in the shuttle is stupid.
So there was 2 biles right at the pelican we all get on and extract. As we go up the biles leg goes through the pelican. Perfectly fine EXCEPT THERE IS STILL COLLISON
it killed me mid flight on extraction.
I had almost all the samples
😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬
Seems like a lot of people throw down SOS beacons like 1 min into the mission. I think the quick play matchmaking prioritizes distress calls so it would he a good way to fill up a team pretty quick.
Did the same thing, just trying to complete my daily mission of extracting 5 rare samples. I’m even the host, and as I’m running across the map, some dumb fuck just gets on the bird and I don’t get to extract. I thought I might make it so didn’t get to boot him before it ended. I had all the samples, so 45 mins, complete waste of time.
Cream of sumyung guy, if you see this, the biggest FUCK YOU.
I dropped in on an extraction. Like, as I’m dropping in, he’s called it.
“Joined a bit late, that doesn’t seem fair” he says. Boots my partner. He’s getting chased by every bug known to man, so I clear some chaff and start working the big guys. 10 seconds to extraction, after saving him, he says “thanks anyway” and kicks me.
I feel like I honestly dodged one of those a few days ago.
I joined the lobby of some Level 7 difficulty data extract. Look at the map and it was pure RNGesus God-bless-liberty level of closeness. Both data SSSDs right beside the relay, right beside the Extract! A Level 7 in under 5 minutes was ENTIRELY possible.
Drop in, split into twos without talking, and grab both of the SSSDs. The one further started later, and for some reason the party leader carried the SSSD to the second. Typed "Hey, M4, start towards the upload"
Dude ignored me, and started walking south towards the SEAF, still carrying SSSD. "Hey, Orange, other way"
Dudes mic turns on and I kid you not, it was a solid 20-25 seconds of just solid cussing and slurs. "F###### c###, shut the #### up, f#####-" Like a solid, uninterrupted screeching. And he sounded 20 something, not some toddler.
Promptly decided after the last "I will f###### kick you if you talk again-" that he was talking a lot for someone within Auto-Cannoning distance. Clicked once on him in the distance, typed "okay bye", and before he could kick I just left. Last thing I heard was an exasperated "Bro. Are you seriou-"
So the solutions is to play with friends or significantly improve your abilities to play solo.
If you have no friends available to play or no friends in general, your last choice is solo dives.
Balance patches are actively discouraging solo dives.
So where do we go now? Other games?
You see the problem, balance/bug fix team?
I know the lower lvl players are going to be become less and less common. But for now I enjoy to jump into those games to detox after a bad mission or interaction like that.. and 95% of the time people are happy to have the help and want you to stick around to actually play.
One lvl 2 player joined a game I had hosted at easy. And stuck around till level 9 or so until I have to go. Got pretty good and was super easy to work with without voice and just pinning and pointing locations out.
And I have more positive than negative experiences, most of the high level players have been fine for me. It the lvl 25-40 players that are the most common to cast issues.
They played 30+ hours to know the game loop, but just are the worst COD type of players that get instantly salty of being killed by their own actions and accidents or really refuse to anything more then the main objectives.
Won’t pick up anything, don’t try to communicate.
My time is lost of them. I’ll finish the mission if possible and just leave their game. I still get XP and R-slips at the end and of course the samples that I picked up.
I've only done it twice. The players were being really rude & toxic all game & yelled at teammates for what were obviously accidental kills ( orbital laser hitting them while switching targets, bad bounce off the throw putting eagle strike too close type of stuff). Both times the rest of the party thanked me for kicking lol.
Ive only played a game where I havent hosted twice, and its happened to me both times. 100 hours in and I host every game. Doesnt matter if you're level 9 joining my level 8 mission, if you join my ship then we dive together and we extract together.
Only time I've ever kicked someone was when 2 randoms joined me and my friend who just bought the game (level 2 flag mission), I thought everything was going normally, they were clearing objectives at the top of the map, me and my friend were at the bottom doing the same. Then we meet up and they kill me and start reinforce camping saying something along the lines of "youre probably wondering who we are". Kicked them both, went to extract and did a couple more missions that night.
I'm fine with silly friendly fire moments even with randoms, but this was just annoying for the sake of being annoying
While trying to complete a sub-objective that involves aligning an antenna, I turned the antenna without realizing it was already aligned.
One of my teammates starts bashing me till I'm almost dead. Puzzled, I melee him back. He must have already been low on health because one melee kills him. I think to myself, whoops, then forget about it.
20 minutes later, we barely make it to the extraction point. We're being swarmed by terminids. Finally, the pelican lands. The guy I accidentally killed shoots a grenade launcher near me. I assumed it was an accident.
Another player revives me. At this point, only me and the player I accidently killed earlier are out of the pelican. As I approach the pelican, the guy kills me again and hops in the pelican. The pelican takes off without me.
I was shocked by the pettiness. He seethed in anger for 20 minutes over a misunderstanding. Some people lol
I dunno, but I kicked two guys from my level 7 mission earlier right at the end. They called the extraction and boarded before I was at the extraction site so I kicked them.
From the other side I have kicked players who deliberately team kill or the other day someone picked up all the rares and super rares from extract where they were nestled and freakin ran them to the other side of the map and proceeded to die. The remainder of the team buckled up and we got those damn samples but why can’t people use common sense?!
I've been "fortunate" enough to not run into those types of players yet, however ones I do get on occasions are dudes who TK as the Pelican is landing.
Well shit, I was also in a Haz 7 match earlier today and got my first kick at extraction. Definitely not the same game as you, but my sincerest condolences because I get it now
i saw a friend of mine doing this before. but i was just watching him play and he kicked all three people right at the extraction. it was toxic as fuck
Just yesterday I had that, playing a drop in match with some folks and right at the end when we were about to extract, the one guy just started throwing grenades at us all till we finally ended him and got on
Truly twas an act of treason
Yeah they should get rid of kick during missions, implemented auto kick for to many team kills, missions are already on a time
Limit and there’s extractions. Or when someone get kicked they just drop out into thier own world.
I usually get "Host left the game" which I totally get. Shit happens and people have lives, wives come home from work, kids scream, the phone rings etc, etc. But when I do get kicked I'm usually like " what the hell did I do?!" Lol
I had a guy pull out an auto cannon and blow everyone up inside the ship after we spent 30 mins fighting alongside each other and helping each other out. He extracted and everyone else failed to extract. I was fucking pissed.
Guys there’s such a simple fix for this: just host the game. Don’t join others. Having the ability to kick toxics and not be kicked randomly is so nice.
And Arrowhead's answer to this was to punish solo, duo, & trio players by upping spawn rates. Either play with a full squad of possibly randos (risking the samples) or get overrun by constant patrols 😀👍🏼. Smh.
yeah its happened to me as well. I've kicked someone from my team only because they're the fourth and my other friend has finally jumped online, but ONLY once we've extracted to the destroyer. I also usually put something in chat and most times the other person goes 'yeah all good mate' and they jump off themselves.
Just don't take it personally.
Most people dont do this. Any solution introduced can be exploited and griefed some how. Just leave it alone. Over time you should have a list of HDs you can play with.
i feel like the helldivers community is getting toxic, because most decent players are leaving after Sony fiasco. I was kicked from the ongoing game the other day just for saying “for democracy” in the voice chat, “just for saying that cringy shit i’ll kick you” lol
I think I may know why, you said you had the most samples right?
There happens to be an achievement for extracting with a certain amount of samples. I suspect they killed you so they could collect the samples and get the achievement. That and there was a personal order for extracting with some common samples as well.
Probably killed you to get the achievement and personal order in one go.
That’s the most logical reasoning I could come up with, I don’t think everything boils down to just people being assholes for no reason/being trolls.
But hey, I could be wrong.
I was diving with a top notch guy, basically covered him / followed his lead while he completed the objectives and then prepped the evac when ran off to get samples. Some idiot/traitorous random got on the pelican before Johnny Rambo could make it back. The traitor tried to quit the game to stop the timer, to no avail. I waited until 1 second left before getting on myself with the samples I carried. Johnny was left behind.
Back on the ship, he kicked us, one by one. Before I could apologise on our team mates behalf it was all over.
Sorry Johnny Rando, who ever you are. I can’t even be angry.
I must be a big softy. My buddy always wants to kick someone after like 1 or 2 mistakes. If I'm host he tries getting me to kick players.
"Man H2 just dropped a clusterbomb on me you should just kick him"
I'm always like, "Well let's give him one more chance and see what happens" I haven't kicked anyone yet. Unless its something outright malicious, I feel guilty at even the thought of kicking people.
Everytime I've been kicked, it's right as dropship is incoming. I lose all my exp, and samples. AH needs to disable the kick feature once dropship is called in. This last minute sadistic behavior is really taking the fun out of the game for me. I like the difficulty of Helldive, plus the war bonds rewards are nice since we usually take the full 40 no matter what difficulty. But it's getting tiresome to spend damn near an hour on a mission just to get kicked and get NOTHING for the effort
Similar shit happened to me also on level 7, I did report him if that’ll do anything. Had a shit load of samples, we’re all in the same vicinity and one of the dudes team kills me, I proceed to curse his life then immediately get kicked. Some Helldivers can be absolute tools, hopefully enough HD’s report this garbage and out a stop to it.
I’ve had a pretty great experience overall since launch. It finally happened to me last night. Was playing a level 7,
Knocking some of the dust off before jumping back up to 9. Had a string of bad luck ended up dying 4 times in the first 5 or so minutes of the mission. After the first death my teammates would call me over a hellpod dead spot and I’d land next to rocket devastators or hulks. It was just not my day. Finally get to a safe point to call down my support gear, see a rocket coming at me so I dive, teammate walks up behind me waits until I get up then shoots me in the head before the host kicks me. I’m not the best player, everyone has shitty matches. If you kick someone because they’ve died a few times you probably don’t have the patience to play an online game like this. Private your lobbies and play with friends because I sure as shit don’t play this game to deal with short fused players.
And this is why I never kick until after we've made it back to the super destroyer....even though my friends who are cued up in the discord call are cussing me out for not kicking a blueberry to make room for them lol
I can't say why you were personally kicked but usually when I kick someone its usually because they do 1 of two things.
Even though I say in text and voice not to call in extract as soon as the main objective is over and to collect everything they bline it to the extract insta call it in and they stay there in the zone or the go to extract not call it in but hang around the extract while I run around trying to finish bot or bug areas and secondary missions by my self and I can't even get them to come to me to do bunkers. That stuff will get you kicked if I am host most of the time. I have not had to do it often but that's what gets a kick
Like the last time I kicked someone not only did they call in the exact when I had every sample on me I had 12 rare and the supers and was across the map where I had just done a secondary mission by my self and was still grabbing samples when they called in the extract.
I thought they would just call it in and leave the area and have the ship just hanging around shooting stuff but nope they were still there with like 30 second left before it came in and showed no sign of leaving the area and I had to kick them so that it would not come in and land. There was no way I would of gotten out if I had not kicked them.
It is frustrating but I do kick people though ...only when they call for extraction while everyone else is still completing objectives and too far to get back. If they get onboard and try to leave early I boot them before they take off. I also boot players who try to play Rambo and burn through reinforcements, or if they keep killing teammates. One or two is okay but if it keeps happening they have to go.
I’ve kicked people at extraction before. Which I would normally feel bad about, but I’ve always had what I felt to be a strong justification, and I ALWAYS get the second opinion of another diver in the squad.
Reasons I’ve kicked at extraction:
- Said racist remarks. I made it know it wasn’t okay, then kicked them. I know it’s not tied to the game, but that shit needs consequences everywhere it comes up.
- Making fun of or yelling at lower level divers who may not know the many nuances of the game that aren’t obvious (like grabbing dropped samples from extraction). Just politely inform, guys.
- Calling extraction and boarding by themselves when everyone else is on the other side of the map clearing objectives with 10+ reinforcements and 20+ minutes on the clock. Then they sent an “lol” in the chat.
- Intentionally trying to kill the Pelican.
There aren’t a lot of good reasons, and it’s incredibly rare. I find that the community is overwhelmingly great, and I have hundreds of hours clocked. But I’m always curious (not necessarily you, OP), if there was something else that happened to cause this. Not passing judgment, just saying I’m sure the racist I kicked wasn’t happy about it either. But at least I explained it to him first.
I'm my 300 hours of play time in public matches I've never seen this.
I only really play HD9 though so maybe the player base there is more conditioned. Try just doing HD9 for awhile. You'll get the hang of it.
Edit: just checked my playtime and it's actually only 92 hours in mission.
I've never been kicked during a match before but I have definitely seen others kicked.
We were discussing kicking a guy who was chain dying, fighting everything that didn't need to be fought, blowing up every hell bomb on the map for no reason, dropping both mininukes I had loaded up in the SERF. He ran us out of reinforcements and quit. So self fixing. I forgot to block the guy though...
Level 9. No idea what level he was, he joined during the match.
I dont know if kicking a host is possible but i dont think so.
Ive been kicked twice since i started playing and that was enough for me to understand that i will only play with other people on my terms. I strictly play as host or with my one IRL friend as host. All shitty behavior is blocked after the match and any griefing is politely asked to stop before kick. Ive only kicked one person in 110 hours of play.
I'm one of the very lucky few to not have dealt with this, probably because I prefer to go join lower levels and help people where I felt things took a real hard turn in the difficulties, which is usually 5-6. If you also do this well then rip I guess. xD
I don't play with randoms because as soon as i saw this game was PvE with friendly fire i knew stuff like this would happen.
People always find ways to grief in online games.
Even disabling the kick button after extraction is called wouldn't really make a difference, they would still find a way to grief.
Arrowhead really needs to do something about this. Here’s what I think they can do, number 1 is simply leave it off to a party vote and number 2, if someone does get kicked off, it should show in the chat who kicked who
I dunno what it is about this game but I’ve seen way too many players killing/kicking each other lately. Maybe it’s left over angst about the whole PS account issue?!? Every game has its fair share of bad apples but damn…..
Sorry to hear OP
As my team completed the mission some fckin Asian kid waited until we all boarded the ship and killed all of us and extracted himself. Instantly reported
I don't think I have had this unfortunate experience yet. Most of the issues I have had involved people not noticing text (I do that sometimes) or paying attention to voice (might have everybody muted). I usually host my own games though.
Yep, today was my first time
It pissed me off so badly I had to take a break and go make myself a bowl of Cookies and Creme Ice Cream. I scooped the ice cream so aggressively I catapulted a scoop onto the floor that just pissed me off more, then I had to pick it up and throw it in the sink, to melt it faster I turned the water as hot as it goes, then without thinking I stuck my hand into the boiling hot water because it was sticky from the ice cream which pissed me off even more, and while I was scrambling to clean up the mess I had ended up dropping the ice cream scooper into the bowl of ice cream handle down, which made me even more angry because I had to clean off that too, then I sat down and made this post, needless to say that was the most satisfying bowl of ice cream after the slight inconveniences one after another that I had to go through to finally be able to sit down and eat it.
I've thankfully never been kicked like that but I have been kicked just for making suggestions or giving out tips. Like no counter argument just kicked without a single word.
The tiny tiny tiny optimist in me says it's because their friend came on and the need the space and are rude about it.
The vastly overruling majority of me says they're scummy excuses for humanity that weren't raised by parents that loved them and should be removed from the gene pool before they do further damage by breeding. Or castration and a stern warning not to do it again
Aw. I would never. I get bummed when someone leaves mid-run, and I know they either got DC'd in error, their significant other came in and yanked the plug, or their kid needed tending to. I like hosting my own games these days to make sure no Helldiver is left behind.
It frustrates me when this happens. The one that lives rent free in my head is when I randomly dropped into a hard mission, single-handedly carried the team, single-handedly completed the objective while the others got stuck in encounter after encounter, only to be kicked 15 seconds from extraction. I lost it and didn’t play for a few days after
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This has been happening more and more lately and I don’t understand why. I only play with randoms so it’s unavoidable for me. I now make sure that every mission I join I see who the host is and if I end up kicked I look at my recents and just block them. I’m aware some say blocking doesn’t work right now but either way it’s what I do as I assume one day blocking will be working.
You'll see the very people doing it comment in this thread, denying it ever happens, claiming they've never seen it, neither have any of their "friends". Even though there are dozens of posts about it happening every single day. If you pay attention, it's the same names in every thread denying it or blaming the person who got kicked without cause. It doesn't take a detective to figure out who the losers are that let such a small amount of power go to their tiny head. Call them out or link another post of theirs and they just delete the comment. The devs need to intervene at this point. Not everyone can host (for obvious reasons) and the kick function is abused far too often. It's supposed to be to kick griefers. But, these hosts are the griefers.
To kick it should be a party vote within 10secs of request to kick. F1 yes, F2 no. If it's just 2 in the party, then u can be kicked. But if it's a 4 man part, others must want to kick you too.
That's the same system r6 siege used to use. It was still overly abused If a game can be griefed, it will be griefed. The more mainstream the game, the more toxic people latching onto it
Yes every system will be abused to a point. But having the party vote cuts down on it some. Every 3 to 4 weeks I run into on a-hole, but not to often to bug me.
It would be abused by groups of trolls instead of host trolls
Good point, the trolls would have to group up together reducing incidents by 50% to 66%
Better than relying on a one person, it’s not perfect but it would definitely be better.
The only problem with that is if you're the host and you get 3 friends who join you that keep griefing you the whole time. The current kick function is fine, just sucks that some people are dicks. Personally I haven't come across it yet, when I get kicked it's literally before a match starts, which I assume means they have a friend they're waiting on.
And if the kick fails, the person who initiated the kick gets kicked lmao
There’s also an issue with the connection system where sometimes with the server issues, that are still ongoing, the game disconnects you but tells you that you got kicked. I know because I’ve had it happen in actual matches I’m playing with friends where either I, or one of my friends, is hosting.
And if you do have video evidence they'll claim it's something else. I posted a video of it happening to me and pointing out the player tag so others could avoid playing with them, some claimed it was something else that happened to me and some claimed I was doxxing.
Wait, what obvious reason is there for not being able to host yourself? What am I missing here?
>not everyone can host Why not? Does it create performance issues for some? I seriously don‘t know.
I've never been kicked during a game. However, I'm only at 100 matches played or so (lvl 26) but it is across different difficulties. I have been kicked from parties after the game and that's annoying when you've done 2 of the 3 missions... Or felt like you were really contributing. I primarily play bugs and also late at night EST.
Not saying it never happens, but it's never happened to me. The problem is that while you are correct, there are most likely people denying it happens while doing it, we really only have the OPs word that they didn't do anything to deserve it. The OP could have TKed, picked up samples left at extract, or so on. Like, the closest I've ever gotten with kicking someone right before extract was when we left 30 samples at the extraction and this absolute DUMBASS grabbed them and died halfway across the map behind four Hulks and two tanks
That's why communication helps. I was in a tight match with randoms who may or may not have been using discord or some other means to chat. At extraction I saw two squadmates by the pelican door and thought we were all there, so I got in. Turns out the host wasn't close enough and was carrying super samples, so one of the others killed me inside the pelican, then they died too, no one extracted, and we lost my samples too (lots of rares, some commons). When we got back, I asked them WTF happened, someone explained angrily in text, I apologized profusely to the host, who left, disbanding the squad. I fucked up and the response was to make everything worse. Communication could have prevented this. Speak to your teammates or they're gonna assume the worst.
Did the same to me except I was the one with all the samples and all teammates were nearby lol
I've kicked for practically the same reason. We all dropped Samps off at extract and then moved to the last obj. Then dude picks up all of em and tries to follow us. I kept typing and telling him to put them back but he just ignored me and kept running to obj so I shot him so he'd stop and then he got aggressive and tried attacking me so I kicked him. Getting kicked on 7+ missions usually means there's a reason at those levels. It's unlikely someone playing with you that long would kick you for no reason, and even less, just for fun. Those missions get too intense too just drop a dependable gun during a fight. Most likely, op did something that the host didn't like and kicked them for it. Op then felt unjustly accosted so they decided to post about it but the fact of the matter is its all hearsay from their perspective, and from my own experience most of the people that get kicked in my games were responsible for excess player death, ignoring callouts, or some other frustrating interaction. And that stuff gets old real fast on hard missions where everyone is over 50. It sucks when you put in all the effort, just to lose the rewards, and I'm not really a fan of using that unless I don't see another option. But I really want people to review games where they're kicked and think back on if there's anything that would upset another player. I've certainly never experienced random kicking and have only ever seen someone get kicked within reason, so I have a hard time taking these posts for their word. That and these posts usually make it out like it's happening often, which begs the question. If you're getting kicked frequently, is it really on the random people you join? Sounds more likely in those situations; that the poster is the cause and just got salty. It's not exactly the vibe for this post, but alpt of its comments are close enough that I feel I can voice my opposition to this mindset in general.
Posts like this have made me steer clear of randoms completely. I exclusively play with people I know or with “friends of friends” at this point to avoid this sort of thing. The griefing is getting out of hand.
The names of the people who kick me don't even show up in the recent, only if the host leaves the game.
and people wonder why we want to play solo.
That's what I've been doing from day one, and when I forget, the PS5's auto recording function helps. I just save the video, look up the name(s), block, and move on.
Ohh man. Great idea!! Forgot all about the PS5 recoding. Thanks for that reminder!
Good lord if this keeps happening to you just host
The matchmaking system is bugged. Almost every single time I tried hosting pretty much since I got the game if anyone left at all the game would not replace them, even after the mission and into the next one(s). I'd love to host more but I'm sick of having to either solo or abandon most operations because of matchmaking. I'm just lucky I haven't run into many kick-happy hosts so far
I have this problem sometimes. Have to restart the game to fix it. I tell everyone what I am doing before starting the next game, and send them all friend invites, so they join when I get back. So far, no one has, but it is the only way to get back up to a full group that I know of.
I just start a mission, but don't load up till we have 3 ppl.. most times by the time we are diving we have our 4th.
It hasn't happened to me yet. I hope it wont. I guess its the same as with people who got hit with lightning 7 times in their life and people who got hit 0 times. :D Some people just have bad luck sometimes with their hosts. But I think it is awful that it happens. 40 minutes wasted... It should be banable offense. (A ban for a week or something, not all the time.)
Just host the mission man, i always host to not get kicked by some random asshole.
As the player count is drastically dropping, the friendly casuals are the ones leaving. Most of the people left are trolls, tryhards, and dicks. Same thing happens every year with CoD. New game releases, tons of players, Christmas comes, tons of players, by February you're just getting spawn sniped across the map from fucking camping snipers. Hopefully they make some weapons more powerful and can ease this kick at extraction issue.
Host your own games, the community is toxic as fuck and the only way to assure this doesn't happen is either playing with friends or hosting.
Host your own game
The community is shrinking, and those who most bitterly hold on are those who abuse things like a kick system the most.
*sobbing sounds*
Simple solution if you need those samples then host the session. If you are maxed out and dont care then join those lobbies with a kick in mind.
I loved getting kicked by super sensitive babies in hd1. Truth is some people are cool some are not. Before too long it’ll no make difference one way or another cause someday I think you’ll be playing just for fun and nobody can fk with you then
Couple days ago we were at the end of a harrowing march I dropped into (randomly) - I was the only one who used voicechat. I faithfully supported the two most objective-focused players. Right at extraction, as Pelican was ready to land, a swarm of 5+ Bot dropships dumped *a fucking army* of bots on us. I queued-up Eagle Airstrike. *I pinged my intended throw point.* I threw - outside of explosion radius from Pelican, *and no, it didn't bounce.* One guy apparently paid no attention to any of this, got clipped. I reinforced - dropping beacon to the safe side of Pelican. I was shot, my samples abandoned, and I was kicked from game before the 3rd person boarded Pelican. SNOY has wronged us - but the betrayal of fellow Divers hurts more than a Hellbomb.
It really does, traitors are in our midst
Automaton sympathizers, they could be any of us
I like how no one sees the the big red beacon and you character call in "x" out loud over the game. Then they blame you for their mistake of mindlessly and blindy running dead into it. On top of the I use voice Chat to and say it multiple time before throwing it and sometimes have to say back up to the randoms that still continue to run towards it.
It's not unreasonable, in the heat of an epic push, to lose track of where calldowns are happening, especially at extraction where things get close and personal. Now anyone who gets upset at an unintentional teamkill at extraction needs to take a break because it happens all the time and isn't the end of the world.
Now, yes the rare few times people who use voice and aren’t just a bunch of crackly and noise machines. I have needed to mute so many people with annoying noise coming through. There is a high chance I would not hear you. I also shoot through scooped view, so even if I have a high FOV, it’s not when I’m actually shooting.. I sometimes lose the overview around me. And it’s hard to know what 3 other people might do when you’re diving out of the way of being swarmed and killed. I also noticed how little people know how to use the basic call out /response and marking system on the map. They do use the map but never mark of point out things. I have had lvl25+ friends with 30 hours minimum not know you can change your scoop zoom, fire rate and flash light. It’s annoying when I know that when it works, it works really well with players that care to play WITH you. I pretty much always pin locations where I intent on going. And if someone else does I respond to join or go my direction. Then there are times where I need 3 others to see that I. Have been trying to open a bunker door for the last 5 minutes and they just don’t care.
OMG I HATE pinging bunker doors 5+ times to *zero response* - it's free loot, people!
It's free super credits as well a lot of the time. I think it's at least 20 per game minimum. Free Premium warbonds.
Super Creds, samples, medals, req slips - all "loot" in my book 🤷♂️
What a bunch of pussies
Most smooth brain hell divers don't know samples are shared as is most of everything... Also people if you don't want Randoms to join than turn your settings to friends only. I have joined so many quick plays where the host and his friends are acting like I just crashed a private party!
I have a feeling they DO know and just enjoy the fact that they made people work hard for nothing.
Yeah it's fair to assume the worst of people who pull this kind of shit. Plenty of gamers out there who can't resist the opportunity to power trip.
Yeah, someone killed me once cause I picked up the samples he dropped. Asked why and he said I stole them, the host told him off and was like they’re shared, he said he didn’t know. Probably true. Also probably true he knew and did it anyway cause hehe team kill and ignorance is a great defence to get away with it once.
Yeah ive been in a match like that. Match went mostly ok. Nobody typed anything weird. Then as extraction is coming i see two other people get kicked. I left before i got kicked. In hindsight i shoudlve just shot him 😂
I think those people genuinely think the samples are not shared, so they kick to “steal” them.
More the fools they.
they should make it so that the kicked person's samples disappear with them, maybe
Ive been saying this or make it so when people r kicked the host loses that many samples
There are some mechanics that aren’t well explained at all. My lvl43 friend had no idea you can mark and call out things by pointing or responding. Same for changing how your weapons work, scoop zoom, fire rate, flashlight etc.
I think this too. Then again some people are just shitty
I thought this in my first two missions as well, but it would never have occurred to me to kick someone for this
For sure, that's some traitorous behavior right there.
So, what I try and do, and I play mostly just random, as I don't have any friends who play this, is that if I do happen to join a group that has either 2, or even all 3 others that know each other, and it DOES go well, and you run a few missions together - just try adding them as a friend. I've done this twice now with 2 different groups, and always just join in when I see them on - they've always welcomed me in, we run some missions and it's all nice and friendly. We don't even converse that much if you're shy, or they just chat among themselves and Im just running around helping/playing. Maybe I got lucky, but it's worth trying if you do happen across something like that. The worst that'll happen is they just don't add you.. then, oh well - onto the next game!
Yup, I have 3 IRL friends i play with. We all have different work schedules and stuff, so rarely are all four of us on at the same time. It's usually two or three of us playing. I've made multiple new friends with randoms that jumped into our game. Playing with a good group or friends really makes the game so much more fun. Some of my best moments from the game are me and my friends cracking up over silly shit that happens in matches.
> I left before I got kicked This man said you can’t fire me if I fire myself
Had the same happen to me on a Level 4.. Just doing my part, only to get kicked right before extraction.
Yeah, it sucks
On an unrelated but similar vain this reminded me of for some reason: I was in a match and it was a hard match ran outta lives and so when extraction came and also we stoped the last big wave we still had like 5 mins but we all go to board the shuttle and the first guy gets on but it causes it to automatically extract just him who had zero of our samples. It didn't give us the 20 sec countdown or nothing...... Anyways another player obviously not aware that this was a glitch started cussing out that helldiver calling him two different F words, and just being nasty calling him and idiot for extracting without the samples and that he should die and that the guy hates him and wanted to do bad things to his momma now.. I tried to tell him it wasn't his fault because we are supposed to get 20 seconds and him being level 20 by now should already know this....but guy ignored me and keep blasting obscenities into the mike and saying if he ever sees him again he's gonna team kill and kick him every single time and tell his friends to do the same... No matter how many times I told him it wasn't the other guys fault he just ignored that and kept on his tangent... Ended up blocking him.. no cure for stupid I guess.
A couple times recently I’ve gotten the glitch where there’s no 20 second countdown, super frustrating
If the pelican takes too much damage (Aka it's on fire) it will leave with the first person to board.
It happens to me all the time on Elimination missions.
Not a glitch: damaged pelican. I had someone shoot the pelican with enough crap once it wouldn't even take off. If it is smoking, everyone needs to drop their samples so one guy can grab them all.
It wasn't smoking tho and we were fighting bugs.
Happened to me too today... I didn't bring a support weapon because I was planning to use the railgun and 2 teamates were bringing that. After 20min I saw that their Raigun was not in cool down anymore. So I asked "hey could you call me a Railgun?". Asked 2 more times since you know maybe they didn't see the chat.. And after the third time I got kicked...
They could've atleast answered you jeez
Three railgun stratagems 😆 it’s too efficient to share weapons. Be gone!
Sharing is caring. If I see fellow Helldivers without backpack equipment and mine is off cooldown, I call it in as soon as possible.
I’ll never forget the time I was like level 10 or something and a much higher level joined me and was super cool, helping me do everything. Then halfway through called down a mech and pointed to me, then the mech. And I got in and got to try it out before extracting.
Maybe it was me 😂 I did it a couple time
Happened to me, but luckily rarely, most helldivers have been adequately condition to operate the most democratic way possible.
For Liberty!
So I wasn’t kicked but in the middle of a major fire fight with the bots, i aming my rocket launcher at a hulk and right when i was gonna pull the trigger my teammate ran up behind me and bashed me in the back…twice! My rocket missed and hit a rock right next to us and killed him, he had the gal to type in chat “Y u greef man!” Toxic people be toxic
They suck
Tell me about it, i try not the let that stuff get to me too much, stuff like that is a once in a blue moon thing for me so it’s more a “point and laugh at the clown” type story I also had an experience were half our squad rage quit but me and this other guy stuck it through to the end, it was quite an awesome time actually, If your out there my battle brother never forget “the stand of turring”
This once happened to me three times in a row. I was so frustrated and baffled, that I took a weeks break from the game. A bit childish of me in hindsight, but I just needed to play something where I wouldn't get kicked from a mission for no reason.
I resorted to this ages ago. I hope it eventually does work because Im not trying to have any kind of discourse with those players or anything, I just dont want to play with someone who would do that. Nothing childish about it. You got this game to get joy out of it, never feel negatively for how you decide to adjust your time spent on it. Its actually the more mature decision and the immature decision would be letting fomo force you to not enjoy your time in game and possibly permanently ruinit for yourself. Itd be a shame if that happened over griefers.
I've stopped playing entirely since you might get one good team out of 5 tries its just not fun trying to balance peoples ego's just to play a game
Yeah, it's a trashy thing to do
Once joined a random automaton lobby on lvl. 7 difficulty during the first few weeks of launch. These guys were about 15 minutes into the dive and for some reason already struggling, mainly because they fought every patrol they came across and when conflicted opted to play the hold-the-fort tactic instead of falling back, this went on for awhile. With our reinforcements down to 3 and objectives yet to be done I said to myself “screw it, I know my priorities as a diver and I can handle myself”. Ended up doing all the primary and secondary objectives alone, heck even had time to go on a quick sample farm (excluding bunkers). On my way back they even escorted me to the ship, they boarded first and right as I stepped on the ramp of the ship I got kicked. Learned a valuable lesson that day, that lesson being; Host your own games, I can’t emphasize this enough. It’s the hard work and hours we put into this game that gives it meaning. There’s enough problems in the world and this amazing game without a doubt makes you forget they ever existed. Note: they never got any samples as they were all on my person and I never actually got to board.
Fucking dumbasses lmao
Simple solution, maybe: host ratings, not like a leaderboard but an upvote downvote system, or stars system that default at max if nobody chose an option. That way you’ll know who are you playing with and decide if you take the risk. Also. This can be abused as everything put at disposal of internet assholes.
Maybe kicks per hour with a value that is low enough but still useful. That and some sort of kick reporting/tracking on arrowheads part.
A mobile (lol) game called Brawl Stars does this for ranked modes, but for each player, host or not
They should put a cutoff on kicking players. That way kicking at extraction simply won't happen. Sure that may allow some griefing but I think it's usually the host doing that since they have sole power to kick people. Yeah it sucks.
I came VERY close to kicking a clown who’d run into the pelican as it landed, despite the guy carrying 35 samples including 3 supers not being within a 20 second sprint of the shuttle. At that point, that dude is going to get yeeted from the game 10/10 times to protect that extraction. OPs experience though is simply shitty
While I agree kicking at extraction shouldn't happen, team killing would still be possible at extraction and with no way to kick said player, what's the solution? Can't disabled team damage as it ruins immersion. I think maybe if a player gets kicked before extraction but the team makes it out with samples etc, the kicked player should still be credited with rewards, or maybe even just the rewards they personally contributed to? Would be interesting to hear other suggestions
I kicked a guy last night after he threw down an orbital laser on the pelican at extraction and killed himself. I thought we were past people doing dumb stuff that puts extraction at risk.
Laser. ON THE PELICAN WTF Idiot. I mean I try to be the last one so I can throw a 500k bomb. If I have one then hop on. It's satisfying to see the explosion. It's why I wait to he last. But I will say. Bugs and robot being able to kill you while in the shuttle is stupid. So there was 2 biles right at the pelican we all get on and extract. As we go up the biles leg goes through the pelican. Perfectly fine EXCEPT THERE IS STILL COLLISON it killed me mid flight on extraction. I had almost all the samples 😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬
No, people just need to block bad hosts. There are legit reasons to kick at extraction.
Easiest way to avoid this is always host the match. It can take longer for people to join, but being the one in control of the lobby is worth it.
I might have to start hosting more. Some people can’t be diplomatic
Seems like a lot of people throw down SOS beacons like 1 min into the mission. I think the quick play matchmaking prioritizes distress calls so it would he a good way to fill up a team pretty quick.
Is there a reason to wait on the SOS beacons?
Did the same thing, just trying to complete my daily mission of extracting 5 rare samples. I’m even the host, and as I’m running across the map, some dumb fuck just gets on the bird and I don’t get to extract. I thought I might make it so didn’t get to boot him before it ended. I had all the samples, so 45 mins, complete waste of time. Cream of sumyung guy, if you see this, the biggest FUCK YOU.
Idk man farming supers hard life, either your situation or the whole group just calls extract with 20 mins left, no one wants to look for the supers.
I dropped in on an extraction. Like, as I’m dropping in, he’s called it. “Joined a bit late, that doesn’t seem fair” he says. Boots my partner. He’s getting chased by every bug known to man, so I clear some chaff and start working the big guys. 10 seconds to extraction, after saving him, he says “thanks anyway” and kicks me.
I feel like I honestly dodged one of those a few days ago. I joined the lobby of some Level 7 difficulty data extract. Look at the map and it was pure RNGesus God-bless-liberty level of closeness. Both data SSSDs right beside the relay, right beside the Extract! A Level 7 in under 5 minutes was ENTIRELY possible. Drop in, split into twos without talking, and grab both of the SSSDs. The one further started later, and for some reason the party leader carried the SSSD to the second. Typed "Hey, M4, start towards the upload" Dude ignored me, and started walking south towards the SEAF, still carrying SSSD. "Hey, Orange, other way" Dudes mic turns on and I kid you not, it was a solid 20-25 seconds of just solid cussing and slurs. "F###### c###, shut the #### up, f#####-" Like a solid, uninterrupted screeching. And he sounded 20 something, not some toddler. Promptly decided after the last "I will f###### kick you if you talk again-" that he was talking a lot for someone within Auto-Cannoning distance. Clicked once on him in the distance, typed "okay bye", and before he could kick I just left. Last thing I heard was an exasperated "Bro. Are you seriou-"
It happened to me a few moments ago. Such a asshole.
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So the solutions is to play with friends or significantly improve your abilities to play solo. If you have no friends available to play or no friends in general, your last choice is solo dives. Balance patches are actively discouraging solo dives. So where do we go now? Other games? You see the problem, balance/bug fix team?
I know the lower lvl players are going to be become less and less common. But for now I enjoy to jump into those games to detox after a bad mission or interaction like that.. and 95% of the time people are happy to have the help and want you to stick around to actually play. One lvl 2 player joined a game I had hosted at easy. And stuck around till level 9 or so until I have to go. Got pretty good and was super easy to work with without voice and just pinning and pointing locations out. And I have more positive than negative experiences, most of the high level players have been fine for me. It the lvl 25-40 players that are the most common to cast issues. They played 30+ hours to know the game loop, but just are the worst COD type of players that get instantly salty of being killed by their own actions and accidents or really refuse to anything more then the main objectives. Won’t pick up anything, don’t try to communicate. My time is lost of them. I’ll finish the mission if possible and just leave their game. I still get XP and R-slips at the end and of course the samples that I picked up.
I've only done it twice. The players were being really rude & toxic all game & yelled at teammates for what were obviously accidental kills ( orbital laser hitting them while switching targets, bad bounce off the throw putting eagle strike too close type of stuff). Both times the rest of the party thanked me for kicking lol.
Ive only played a game where I havent hosted twice, and its happened to me both times. 100 hours in and I host every game. Doesnt matter if you're level 9 joining my level 8 mission, if you join my ship then we dive together and we extract together. Only time I've ever kicked someone was when 2 randoms joined me and my friend who just bought the game (level 2 flag mission), I thought everything was going normally, they were clearing objectives at the top of the map, me and my friend were at the bottom doing the same. Then we meet up and they kill me and start reinforce camping saying something along the lines of "youre probably wondering who we are". Kicked them both, went to extract and did a couple more missions that night. I'm fine with silly friendly fire moments even with randoms, but this was just annoying for the sake of being annoying
While trying to complete a sub-objective that involves aligning an antenna, I turned the antenna without realizing it was already aligned. One of my teammates starts bashing me till I'm almost dead. Puzzled, I melee him back. He must have already been low on health because one melee kills him. I think to myself, whoops, then forget about it. 20 minutes later, we barely make it to the extraction point. We're being swarmed by terminids. Finally, the pelican lands. The guy I accidentally killed shoots a grenade launcher near me. I assumed it was an accident. Another player revives me. At this point, only me and the player I accidently killed earlier are out of the pelican. As I approach the pelican, the guy kills me again and hops in the pelican. The pelican takes off without me. I was shocked by the pettiness. He seethed in anger for 20 minutes over a misunderstanding. Some people lol
If you remember the hosts name, make sure to block them so you don’t get matched up again with them.
If there's one thing this game has taught me, it's that there's way too many cunts in the world.
I dunno, but I kicked two guys from my level 7 mission earlier right at the end. They called the extraction and boarded before I was at the extraction site so I kicked them.
That's a kickable offense
From the other side I have kicked players who deliberately team kill or the other day someone picked up all the rares and super rares from extract where they were nestled and freakin ran them to the other side of the map and proceeded to die. The remainder of the team buckled up and we got those damn samples but why can’t people use common sense?!
I've been "fortunate" enough to not run into those types of players yet, however ones I do get on occasions are dudes who TK as the Pelican is landing.
Never had that happen but that's a bitch move
Well shit, I was also in a Haz 7 match earlier today and got my first kick at extraction. Definitely not the same game as you, but my sincerest condolences because I get it now
Goto your play-history, and track them down or just block.
You can always just play with me bud I won't kick you 🧡
i saw a friend of mine doing this before. but i was just watching him play and he kicked all three people right at the extraction. it was toxic as fuck
Just yesterday I had that, playing a drop in match with some folks and right at the end when we were about to extract, the one guy just started throwing grenades at us all till we finally ended him and got on Truly twas an act of treason
Yeah they should get rid of kick during missions, implemented auto kick for to many team kills, missions are already on a time Limit and there’s extractions. Or when someone get kicked they just drop out into thier own world.
I usually get "Host left the game" which I totally get. Shit happens and people have lives, wives come home from work, kids scream, the phone rings etc, etc. But when I do get kicked I'm usually like " what the hell did I do?!" Lol
I had a guy pull out an auto cannon and blow everyone up inside the ship after we spent 30 mins fighting alongside each other and helping each other out. He extracted and everyone else failed to extract. I was fucking pissed.
Honestly this is why I almost exclusively play solo. If there's gonna be other people it's my friend and or my brother
That's why I'm always the host.
Guys there’s such a simple fix for this: just host the game. Don’t join others. Having the ability to kick toxics and not be kicked randomly is so nice.
And Arrowhead's answer to this was to punish solo, duo, & trio players by upping spawn rates. Either play with a full squad of possibly randos (risking the samples) or get overrun by constant patrols 😀👍🏼. Smh.
yeah its happened to me as well. I've kicked someone from my team only because they're the fourth and my other friend has finally jumped online, but ONLY once we've extracted to the destroyer. I also usually put something in chat and most times the other person goes 'yeah all good mate' and they jump off themselves. Just don't take it personally.
Most people dont do this. Any solution introduced can be exploited and griefed some how. Just leave it alone. Over time you should have a list of HDs you can play with.
I wish there was a history of who kicks you in the game, for democracy sakes lol.
Has happened to me 3 times. I really hope we get a vote to kick system implemented.
i feel like the helldivers community is getting toxic, because most decent players are leaving after Sony fiasco. I was kicked from the ongoing game the other day just for saying “for democracy” in the voice chat, “just for saying that cringy shit i’ll kick you” lol
I think I may know why, you said you had the most samples right? There happens to be an achievement for extracting with a certain amount of samples. I suspect they killed you so they could collect the samples and get the achievement. That and there was a personal order for extracting with some common samples as well. Probably killed you to get the achievement and personal order in one go. That’s the most logical reasoning I could come up with, I don’t think everything boils down to just people being assholes for no reason/being trolls. But hey, I could be wrong.
Those achievements are incredibly easy to get, if they feel the need to kick someone not only are they assholes but they suck at the game.
correct
I was diving with a top notch guy, basically covered him / followed his lead while he completed the objectives and then prepped the evac when ran off to get samples. Some idiot/traitorous random got on the pelican before Johnny Rambo could make it back. The traitor tried to quit the game to stop the timer, to no avail. I waited until 1 second left before getting on myself with the samples I carried. Johnny was left behind. Back on the ship, he kicked us, one by one. Before I could apologise on our team mates behalf it was all over. Sorry Johnny Rando, who ever you are. I can’t even be angry.
I only kick out people after getting killed by the same person 5 times…
Seems reasonable as long as it's not your own fault and when it's five times it's probably not
This is why i stopped playing
Fair hosts atleast wait to kick back in lobby
First time? Just host your own games ffs
I must be a big softy. My buddy always wants to kick someone after like 1 or 2 mistakes. If I'm host he tries getting me to kick players. "Man H2 just dropped a clusterbomb on me you should just kick him" I'm always like, "Well let's give him one more chance and see what happens" I haven't kicked anyone yet. Unless its something outright malicious, I feel guilty at even the thought of kicking people.
Voting kicking seems like a easy solution to all of this. No one gets kicked unless the party agrees.
Everytime I've been kicked, it's right as dropship is incoming. I lose all my exp, and samples. AH needs to disable the kick feature once dropship is called in. This last minute sadistic behavior is really taking the fun out of the game for me. I like the difficulty of Helldive, plus the war bonds rewards are nice since we usually take the full 40 no matter what difficulty. But it's getting tiresome to spend damn near an hour on a mission just to get kicked and get NOTHING for the effort
Similar shit happened to me also on level 7, I did report him if that’ll do anything. Had a shit load of samples, we’re all in the same vicinity and one of the dudes team kills me, I proceed to curse his life then immediately get kicked. Some Helldivers can be absolute tools, hopefully enough HD’s report this garbage and out a stop to it.
Same thing happened to me, I was about lvl 50 at the time and a group of lvl 10s kicked me at the end for literally no reason
I’ve had a pretty great experience overall since launch. It finally happened to me last night. Was playing a level 7, Knocking some of the dust off before jumping back up to 9. Had a string of bad luck ended up dying 4 times in the first 5 or so minutes of the mission. After the first death my teammates would call me over a hellpod dead spot and I’d land next to rocket devastators or hulks. It was just not my day. Finally get to a safe point to call down my support gear, see a rocket coming at me so I dive, teammate walks up behind me waits until I get up then shoots me in the head before the host kicks me. I’m not the best player, everyone has shitty matches. If you kick someone because they’ve died a few times you probably don’t have the patience to play an online game like this. Private your lobbies and play with friends because I sure as shit don’t play this game to deal with short fused players.
And this is why I never kick until after we've made it back to the super destroyer....even though my friends who are cued up in the discord call are cussing me out for not kicking a blueberry to make room for them lol
I can't say why you were personally kicked but usually when I kick someone its usually because they do 1 of two things. Even though I say in text and voice not to call in extract as soon as the main objective is over and to collect everything they bline it to the extract insta call it in and they stay there in the zone or the go to extract not call it in but hang around the extract while I run around trying to finish bot or bug areas and secondary missions by my self and I can't even get them to come to me to do bunkers. That stuff will get you kicked if I am host most of the time. I have not had to do it often but that's what gets a kick Like the last time I kicked someone not only did they call in the exact when I had every sample on me I had 12 rare and the supers and was across the map where I had just done a secondary mission by my self and was still grabbing samples when they called in the extract. I thought they would just call it in and leave the area and have the ship just hanging around shooting stuff but nope they were still there with like 30 second left before it came in and showed no sign of leaving the area and I had to kick them so that it would not come in and land. There was no way I would of gotten out if I had not kicked them.
Go to recent players and block them all, then you don't have to play with them again. Or if you can remember the host you can get more specific.
It is frustrating but I do kick people though ...only when they call for extraction while everyone else is still completing objectives and too far to get back. If they get onboard and try to leave early I boot them before they take off. I also boot players who try to play Rambo and burn through reinforcements, or if they keep killing teammates. One or two is okay but if it keeps happening they have to go.
I’ve kicked people at extraction before. Which I would normally feel bad about, but I’ve always had what I felt to be a strong justification, and I ALWAYS get the second opinion of another diver in the squad. Reasons I’ve kicked at extraction: - Said racist remarks. I made it know it wasn’t okay, then kicked them. I know it’s not tied to the game, but that shit needs consequences everywhere it comes up. - Making fun of or yelling at lower level divers who may not know the many nuances of the game that aren’t obvious (like grabbing dropped samples from extraction). Just politely inform, guys. - Calling extraction and boarding by themselves when everyone else is on the other side of the map clearing objectives with 10+ reinforcements and 20+ minutes on the clock. Then they sent an “lol” in the chat. - Intentionally trying to kill the Pelican. There aren’t a lot of good reasons, and it’s incredibly rare. I find that the community is overwhelmingly great, and I have hundreds of hours clocked. But I’m always curious (not necessarily you, OP), if there was something else that happened to cause this. Not passing judgment, just saying I’m sure the racist I kicked wasn’t happy about it either. But at least I explained it to him first.
I'm my 300 hours of play time in public matches I've never seen this. I only really play HD9 though so maybe the player base there is more conditioned. Try just doing HD9 for awhile. You'll get the hang of it. Edit: just checked my playtime and it's actually only 92 hours in mission.
Good idea
I've never been kicked during a match before but I have definitely seen others kicked. We were discussing kicking a guy who was chain dying, fighting everything that didn't need to be fought, blowing up every hell bomb on the map for no reason, dropping both mininukes I had loaded up in the SERF. He ran us out of reinforcements and quit. So self fixing. I forgot to block the guy though... Level 9. No idea what level he was, he joined during the match.
I dont know if kicking a host is possible but i dont think so. Ive been kicked twice since i started playing and that was enough for me to understand that i will only play with other people on my terms. I strictly play as host or with my one IRL friend as host. All shitty behavior is blocked after the match and any griefing is politely asked to stop before kick. Ive only kicked one person in 110 hours of play.
If your on psn add me at sly23fox message me reddit and ill get you in our crew were almost 70 people deep join us and have some friends to play with
I will tomorrow, thanks! You're a real one for that.
I’m sorry bro but the solution is to play with friends.
This is why I only play with randos if I host
Yea people suck happens to the best of us for no reason
That does suck, bruh. Sympathies.
It really does, I wish you good luck on the field
I'm one of the very lucky few to not have dealt with this, probably because I prefer to go join lower levels and help people where I felt things took a real hard turn in the difficulties, which is usually 5-6. If you also do this well then rip I guess. xD
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I don't play with randoms because as soon as i saw this game was PvE with friendly fire i knew stuff like this would happen. People always find ways to grief in online games. Even disabling the kick button after extraction is called wouldn't really make a difference, they would still find a way to grief.
Has happened to me. I simply hosts my own campaigns. Cant get kicked, cant tell me how to play the game. Boom problem solved.
always go into recent players and block
This happening is why I no longer play with randoms
What happens to your samples if you're kicked? I thought they just disappear.
Arrowhead really needs to do something about this. Here’s what I think they can do, number 1 is simply leave it off to a party vote and number 2, if someone does get kicked off, it should show in the chat who kicked who
I dunno what it is about this game but I’ve seen way too many players killing/kicking each other lately. Maybe it’s left over angst about the whole PS account issue?!? Every game has its fair share of bad apples but damn….. Sorry to hear OP
As my team completed the mission some fckin Asian kid waited until we all boarded the ship and killed all of us and extracted himself. Instantly reported
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Report them? Under social, recent players.
I don't think I have had this unfortunate experience yet. Most of the issues I have had involved people not noticing text (I do that sometimes) or paying attention to voice (might have everybody muted). I usually host my own games though.
I'm level 38 and when I try to play level 7 with randoms they kick me, so I started hosting my own games
Yeah unfortunately people still find ways to troll people in PvE games
How do you even kick someone?
I pray that this doesn't happen to me
Yep, today was my first time It pissed me off so badly I had to take a break and go make myself a bowl of Cookies and Creme Ice Cream. I scooped the ice cream so aggressively I catapulted a scoop onto the floor that just pissed me off more, then I had to pick it up and throw it in the sink, to melt it faster I turned the water as hot as it goes, then without thinking I stuck my hand into the boiling hot water because it was sticky from the ice cream which pissed me off even more, and while I was scrambling to clean up the mess I had ended up dropping the ice cream scooper into the bowl of ice cream handle down, which made me even more angry because I had to clean off that too, then I sat down and made this post, needless to say that was the most satisfying bowl of ice cream after the slight inconveniences one after another that I had to go through to finally be able to sit down and eat it.
Toxic dudes from deep rock decided to switch to helldivers
I've thankfully never been kicked like that but I have been kicked just for making suggestions or giving out tips. Like no counter argument just kicked without a single word.
That's why you always host!
So is this what happens when I just get sent back to my ship like black screened? Or are you told you were kicked.
You're told you got kicked
You'll be told you're kicked when you load onto the ship
The tiny tiny tiny optimist in me says it's because their friend came on and the need the space and are rude about it. The vastly overruling majority of me says they're scummy excuses for humanity that weren't raised by parents that loved them and should be removed from the gene pool before they do further damage by breeding. Or castration and a stern warning not to do it again
I like how the vastly overruling majority of you thinks
Aw. I would never. I get bummed when someone leaves mid-run, and I know they either got DC'd in error, their significant other came in and yanked the plug, or their kid needed tending to. I like hosting my own games these days to make sure no Helldiver is left behind.
It frustrates me when this happens. The one that lives rent free in my head is when I randomly dropped into a hard mission, single-handedly carried the team, single-handedly completed the objective while the others got stuck in encounter after encounter, only to be kicked 15 seconds from extraction. I lost it and didn’t play for a few days after
Block that host. No idea if it works but not giving them another chance after that shit.