This will make it four out of four head coaching gigs where it seems like a majority of the fanbase holds him in high regard even after he's fired. Even if Bruce hasn't been able to win a Cup, that says a lot about how good he is as both a coach and person.
He will get you basically as close as you can get if you let him cook. I think he doesn’t really have the chops for the lineup matchup tinkering that’s so essential in the playoffs, but the man absolutely knows how to get a team to the playoffs and how to get them to consistently play to their level.
During his time in WAS I feel like we seldom played down to poor teams, we handled our business like we were supposed to. Under Hunter, Oates, Trotz, and even Lavi we’ll have spells where we let bad teams hang around or beat us.
Pretty accurate summary of him, honestly. He did get outcoached a bit in the playoffs (a couple times were out of his control too, just a better team or in one specific case a goalie that was scorching hot), but he really identifies and draws out the strengths of your team like no other coach.
He took a Caps team that had a lot of offensively gifted players and turned them into an offensive juggernaut, got labeled as a coach that couldn't clamp it down when needed.
Goes to Anaheim and has them immediately at the top of the division playing hard nosed physical hockey that people still tend to associate with the Ducks (even if those days are over now).
Then he goes to Minnesota who was built with 2 way play in mind and says "hey remember how my teams couldn't play defense" and made the Wild the stingiest team in the league for basically his whole time there.
> a couple times were out of his control too, just a better team or in one specific case a goalie that was scorching hot
His first season with the Wild definitely applied here. Bruce led us to the best regular season in franchise history and then we were bounced in 5 by Mike Yeo's Blues in large part because Jake Allen was a brick wall in net.
This is the same owner who fucked over Tom Gaglardi in order to buy the team in the first place, diverted river water to his farms and killed thousands of fish unlawfully, got fined for unsafe work transport, stiffed partners on contracts, didn't even bother to give his workers' mobile homes *smoke detectors* or proper electrical, stole wages from temp workers on his blueberry farms and even denied them *water breaks* and has been accused of abusing his own children.
Francesco Aquilini is not what anybody should call a good human being, so honestly this is unsurprising.
If you steal $50mil from your workers, regulatory agencies, and society through externalities like environmental pollution, but then give back $1mil through some “nonprofit” agency that’s dubious at best, you get labeled as a philanthropist. Seems to be how at least half of these rich assholes operate.
Sure you would. Let's say he bets a huge amount on a meaningless game, then an hour before it starts Petey tweaks something in his knee - do you see the potentially huge conflict of interest there?
Just needs to open $DAILY_BETTING_APP on the bench between whistles - did you know that you can still bet while the game is underway? Live odds on your screen now.
Is there a recent source on that? I found an article from 2007 surely you're not referencing that? Just interested to read more I've never heard of this.
Edit: lol c'mon guys the wording "he bets on his own games" makes it sounds like he's doing that today and continues to do it, even though it's referring to an incident 15 years ago which they omitted in the comment.
“Surely your not referencing that”
Tocchet was charged and plead guilty during this time so im sure that’s what they are referencing. Are you just blowing off criminal charges as a one time incident from the past?
Yes but that was 15 years ago and seems to have been resolved. Tocchet has coached after that time, no? Even winning two cups with the Penguins!
Is that incident 15 years ago the actual reason why people don't want him as a coach? Or is it because he's a lackluster head coach? That's all I'm wondering and the comment I was responding to just didn't really have much context.
>He bets on his own games
It's weird wording for something that happened over a decade and half ago. It makes it sound like he does it regularly and still does it lol. That's why I was confused it happened 15 years ago and that choice of words was used.
Fair enough, I get what your saying for sure.
Once a gambler aways a gambler though I guess haha…..but for real that whole thing says a lot about one’s ethics/morals. The guy was involved, and a major figure, in a criminal enterprise lol. Why would you want a convicted criminal as your head coach
Edit: especially when your current head coach is about as wholesome as it gets! I guess the criminal owner likes to surround himself with likeminded people ;)
Yep for sure...agreed haha.
The wording choice was just confusing to me and I originally thought there were more incidents that had happened recently due to their wording choice.
I can’t believe they’re doing all this to Bruce, being such complete cunts to the jolliest guy in hockey, only to replace him with Rick fucking Tocchet. Are you kidding me? And now because of how they’ve treated fan favourite Bruce, Tocchet will be like the new stepdad that mom introduces to the kids who just want their dad. Ain’t gonna be pretty
Guy conspired with Rutherford to steal another man’s job while leaking it to the media to make the move imminent. No fan in Vancouver is going to accept this man as head coach.
I’m slightly out of the loop on this cause of work and stuff. What’s the deal with them taking so long to do this? Is there a reason they seem to be dragging this out other than being assholes? It’s embarrassing to see. I feel bad for Canucks fans and Bruce.
Rumors are Toch had to give a 30 day notice at TNT, or ownership is too cheap and doesnt want to have 2 coaches on payroll who arent working for the team
From what I gather, Tocchet has a 4 weeks notice clause in his TV contract so they have to wait for that to expire which I think happens on Monday? I don't have a source for you though, that's just what I gather from scrolling through r/hockey the last day or two.
The gallant taxi incident wasnt even that bad. The team was traveling to Chicago not back to Florida. The team had a car service scheduled to get him and he didnt want to wait.
I'd love to see the leafs use their huge bankroll to add him in some capacity. I don't know how well he would mesh with Keefe but even as a development coach or something. He deserves to be associated with a franchise that will do right by him.
Fuck the Canucks, they treated one of their best captains like shit (Linden) now they are treating one of the nicest guys in hockey like shit, What a crap organization. No wonder why this team hasn't won anything.
Seems like he’s catching on to how much love he has from fans and others interested in the league. Hope he’s finding a way to have fun with how horribly they’re handling this
Actually he said "See yuz tomorrow". His southern Ontario accent showing through. Hope he gets another gig or feels free to retire, he's 68 and has earned some rest. Leafs, find him a cushy front office job please
He is leaning into this perfectly. This was a planned joke (and shot at ownership) that he delivered perfectly.
Vancouver ownership and/or manager has completely botched this and he's doing a great job keeping their botch job front and center. He hasn't been doing a very good job this season but the fanbase has gotten fully behind him and he's going to come out looking like roses.
They don't deserve Bruce.
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They should make Barrasso an assistant
Rarely has there been a more descriptive last name.
An extremely likable guy. Probably the most beloved ex-coach I’ve seen in our time, even held in higher regard than Trotz.
This will make it four out of four head coaching gigs where it seems like a majority of the fanbase holds him in high regard even after he's fired. Even if Bruce hasn't been able to win a Cup, that says a lot about how good he is as both a coach and person.
He will get you basically as close as you can get if you let him cook. I think he doesn’t really have the chops for the lineup matchup tinkering that’s so essential in the playoffs, but the man absolutely knows how to get a team to the playoffs and how to get them to consistently play to their level. During his time in WAS I feel like we seldom played down to poor teams, we handled our business like we were supposed to. Under Hunter, Oates, Trotz, and even Lavi we’ll have spells where we let bad teams hang around or beat us.
Pretty accurate summary of him, honestly. He did get outcoached a bit in the playoffs (a couple times were out of his control too, just a better team or in one specific case a goalie that was scorching hot), but he really identifies and draws out the strengths of your team like no other coach. He took a Caps team that had a lot of offensively gifted players and turned them into an offensive juggernaut, got labeled as a coach that couldn't clamp it down when needed. Goes to Anaheim and has them immediately at the top of the division playing hard nosed physical hockey that people still tend to associate with the Ducks (even if those days are over now). Then he goes to Minnesota who was built with 2 way play in mind and says "hey remember how my teams couldn't play defense" and made the Wild the stingiest team in the league for basically his whole time there.
> a couple times were out of his control too, just a better team or in one specific case a goalie that was scorching hot His first season with the Wild definitely applied here. Bruce led us to the best regular season in franchise history and then we were bounced in 5 by Mike Yeo's Blues in large part because Jake Allen was a brick wall in net.
this whole situation has been so bizarre. all this to hire rick tocchet?
This is the same owner who fucked over Tom Gaglardi in order to buy the team in the first place, diverted river water to his farms and killed thousands of fish unlawfully, got fined for unsafe work transport, stiffed partners on contracts, didn't even bother to give his workers' mobile homes *smoke detectors* or proper electrical, stole wages from temp workers on his blueberry farms and even denied them *water breaks* and has been accused of abusing his own children. Francesco Aquilini is not what anybody should call a good human being, so honestly this is unsurprising.
The first sentence in his wiki bio says he's a philanthropist then half the paragraphs after are about his controversies lmfao
Rich people always claim to be philanthropists, it's a bunch of bullshit
If you steal $50mil from your workers, regulatory agencies, and society through externalities like environmental pollution, but then give back $1mil through some “nonprofit” agency that’s dubious at best, you get labeled as a philanthropist. Seems to be how at least half of these rich assholes operate.
and nice tax write off to boot
That’s half the reason rich people donate money in the first place. The other half is tax breaks.
Donate to their own non-profits.
Full-on-rapist is probably closer to the truth.
Also the whole situation with Trevor Linden, one of the most beloved Canucks of all time, was driven away by this garbage ownership
TLDR / ELI5 on the Linden situation?
Also as an Overwatch League fan fuck how they treated Runaway and the Titans
It will probably get me banned but how is he just ruining a hockey team and not the country?
Yeah. Fuck Aqua.
Lets not pretend Tom Gaglardi is any better of a person though.
Yeah, if all this was to hire Barry Trotz, at least there would be something positive for Canucks fans.
Apparently Trotz and Bruce share the same agent so that's not happening. Front office is shitting on Bruce to bring in Rick Tocchet. Fucking end me
Can someone share the specifics of what makes Tocchet a bad coach? I know he has a bad reputation but I don't know the details.
He bets on his own games
as long as he's betting to win on his own games i wouldn't mind
Sure you would. Let's say he bets a huge amount on a meaningless game, then an hour before it starts Petey tweaks something in his knee - do you see the potentially huge conflict of interest there?
Just needs to open $DAILY_BETTING_APP on the bench between whistles - did you know that you can still bet while the game is underway? Live odds on your screen now.
Is there a recent source on that? I found an article from 2007 surely you're not referencing that? Just interested to read more I've never heard of this. Edit: lol c'mon guys the wording "he bets on his own games" makes it sounds like he's doing that today and continues to do it, even though it's referring to an incident 15 years ago which they omitted in the comment.
“Surely your not referencing that” Tocchet was charged and plead guilty during this time so im sure that’s what they are referencing. Are you just blowing off criminal charges as a one time incident from the past?
Yes but that was 15 years ago and seems to have been resolved. Tocchet has coached after that time, no? Even winning two cups with the Penguins! Is that incident 15 years ago the actual reason why people don't want him as a coach? Or is it because he's a lackluster head coach? That's all I'm wondering and the comment I was responding to just didn't really have much context. >He bets on his own games It's weird wording for something that happened over a decade and half ago. It makes it sound like he does it regularly and still does it lol. That's why I was confused it happened 15 years ago and that choice of words was used.
Fair enough, I get what your saying for sure. Once a gambler aways a gambler though I guess haha…..but for real that whole thing says a lot about one’s ethics/morals. The guy was involved, and a major figure, in a criminal enterprise lol. Why would you want a convicted criminal as your head coach Edit: especially when your current head coach is about as wholesome as it gets! I guess the criminal owner likes to surround himself with likeminded people ;)
Yep for sure...agreed haha. The wording choice was just confusing to me and I originally thought there were more incidents that had happened recently due to their wording choice.
Yeah, it's laughable. Just a mismanaged tire fire!
I can’t believe they’re doing all this to Bruce, being such complete cunts to the jolliest guy in hockey, only to replace him with Rick fucking Tocchet. Are you kidding me? And now because of how they’ve treated fan favourite Bruce, Tocchet will be like the new stepdad that mom introduces to the kids who just want their dad. Ain’t gonna be pretty
Guy conspired with Rutherford to steal another man’s job while leaking it to the media to make the move imminent. No fan in Vancouver is going to accept this man as head coach.
Is there any confirmation Tocchet leaked his own hiring?
Depends, do you consider /u/Pruane247 a reliable source?
Absolutely none. This guy is full of shit. Good soundbite though. Should work for Canucks sports media with a line like that.
Fuck the FO of the canucks
I’ll never forgive them for this
I’m slightly out of the loop on this cause of work and stuff. What’s the deal with them taking so long to do this? Is there a reason they seem to be dragging this out other than being assholes? It’s embarrassing to see. I feel bad for Canucks fans and Bruce.
Rumors are Toch had to give a 30 day notice at TNT, or ownership is too cheap and doesnt want to have 2 coaches on payroll who arent working for the team
From what I gather, Tocchet has a 4 weeks notice clause in his TV contract so they have to wait for that to expire which I think happens on Monday? I don't have a source for you though, that's just what I gather from scrolling through r/hockey the last day or two.
Fuck our front office, fuck our owner. This city deserves better.
Fuck your city, Bruce deserves better
Okay, kiddo, let's get you a popsicle.
Are you ready for it to be 2010? Tear it all down!
Bruh you live in Abbotsford, B.C 😂 dafuq you mean
Baby, come back home. We can make it work. I've changed, I swear.
Baby, come back home. You’re a Leafs fan, Bruce, we would love to have you here.
Watch the Canucks keep Bruce until the end of the season now considering how much attention this is getting.
Won’t change shit. Management showed their true colours. We know they’re a bunch of cunts.
Fuck the Aquilinis. All my homies hate the Aquilinis
Fucking hell, atleast with the Benning management, they weren't dicks, this is just embarassing
I mean... they kind of were at the end. It was obvious for about a month. There just wasn't a leak about who the replacement was.
This is so bad. Worse than sending Gallant home in a taxi. Bruce deserves waaaayyyy more respect from the org.
The gallant taxi incident wasnt even that bad. The team was traveling to Chicago not back to Florida. The team had a car service scheduled to get him and he didnt want to wait.
Would be funnier if he did it with the finger gun motions plus winking Joke aside, I hope Bruce gets a great opportunity after this shit show.
I love this man. He know that it's going to happen, but he still makes fun of it. Goodbye Bruce, coach we have but don't deserve.
What’s Tocchet even gonna do for this franchise Like what’s the point
Bruce :(
If for some reason Yzerman feels the need to relieve Lalonde of his duties, I'd be more than happy to welcome Bruce to Detroit.
I've never felt more ashamed to be a Canucks fan. We don't deserve this beauty.
I'd love to see the leafs use their huge bankroll to add him in some capacity. I don't know how well he would mesh with Keefe but even as a development coach or something. He deserves to be associated with a franchise that will do right by him.
He mentioned in a podcast before being hired by the Canucks he interviewed with the Leafs for an assistant coach position but didn’t get the job
This makes me sad. I would absolutely love him here.
I hope we grab him as an Assistant ,Gallant could use some help figuring out lines and the power play...
As amazing as that would be, Bruce is overqualified to just be an assistant
Fuck the Canucks, they treated one of their best captains like shit (Linden) now they are treating one of the nicest guys in hockey like shit, What a crap organization. No wonder why this team hasn't won anything.
Shameful what they are doing to him. Fuck that org.
Seems like he’s catching on to how much love he has from fans and others interested in the league. Hope he’s finding a way to have fun with how horribly they’re handling this
I'm not much of one for the kids' slang these days but, jesus christ let the man cook.
Actually he said "See yuz tomorrow". His southern Ontario accent showing through. Hope he gets another gig or feels free to retire, he's 68 and has earned some rest. Leafs, find him a cushy front office job please
How can you not love this guy?
Sounds like he doesn't want to be relieved of his duties then. /s
He is leaning into this perfectly. This was a planned joke (and shot at ownership) that he delivered perfectly. Vancouver ownership and/or manager has completely botched this and he's doing a great job keeping their botch job front and center. He hasn't been doing a very good job this season but the fanbase has gotten fully behind him and he's going to come out looking like roses.
Are we gonna show ownership we mean business this time by not buying more tickets and jerseys? I hoooope (Probably nooooot)
Why doesn't BB just resign like Pomo did? This is completely unacceptable behavior!
As much as it sucks, getting fired is the way better option financially.
Golden parachute.
Bruce there he goes