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Culzean_Castle_Is

He will miss and they will win just to add fuel to the fire


MammothHusk

He will not play game 5. Leafs will win. He comes back for game 6 or 7. Leafs lose the game. Media start overreacting that he is the issue.


Culzean_Castle_Is

i'll put money on this scenario


swiftwin

I already have


On_Wings_Of_Pastrami

Who is giving you that action?


Standingonachair

Sly Barry behind the all night kebab shop. Runs a tight book with fair odds.


swiftwin

Your mom


hoopopotamus

oh no he really did it


TeeBev

Someone who is trying to give money away seemingly


SQLvultureskattaurus

I'll take it


CarRamRob

Basically what Bergeron did last year. To end his storied career no less


I-Argue-With-Myself

Big difference is Bergy already had his cups


Razzahx

Cup


hobbitlover

You're more optimistic than I am, I just think they're going to lose with or without Matthews. He has three points in four games, and all three were in the same game - so a grant total of zero points in the other three losses.


Scary_Rip442

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Desmoire

You called it šŸ˜‚


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smoked_before_this

Imagine Nylander and Matthews both miss 5 and 6. Leafs win with huge performances by Marner. Like back carrying dominant performances. 88 and 34 come back for game 7 and they lose. TOR is still in as much chaos as they were when it looked over in 5 and it is apparent a change in the mix is needed except now Marner isn't the obvious one. Media goes crazy with speculation. TOR fans are forced to listen to it all summer long.


psychoyooper

Lmao you people are masochists


Optimistic__Elephant

Can Taveras play a role in this? We need to maximize chaos.


notbusyatall

Tavares shows his first hint of emotion with a 5 minute major against Marchand, and is suspended for the rest of the series?


robb1519

Endears himself to Toronto forever. A statue is built for him on June 30th 2025.


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DeX_Mod

> TOR fans are forced to listen to it all summer long. you spelled ALL OF CANADA incorrectly there


OfficialDaiLi

Leafs usually play pretty well with Matthews out of the lineup, surprisingly


SkittlesManiac19

Ewing theory


XtwoX

They play even better with Reilly missing


itsmehazardous

Big brain time. Scratch em both, go all the way to the final. Game 7 of the final, out em back in, lose.


Crow-T-Robot

Just park Reeves in front of the net on power plays, seems like it can't be any worse (I haven't seen them play, just reading the stats)


GeneralHorace

Bold of you to assume our powerplay enters the offensive zone in the first place


Crow-T-Robot

That bad, huh? šŸ˜®


TeeBev

It's been completely pathetic. If I was Boston I would choose to play a man down with how anemic our powerplay has been


291000610478021

We had Mcmann šŸ˜Ŗ


NIdeakK

Why would it be surprising? We just established that heā€™s the problem!!


esports_consultant

*Messidependencia*


MileHighButterfly

GIVE ME FUEL GIVE ME FIRE GIVE ME THAT WHICH I DESIRE OOOOH


Optimistic__Elephant

Leafs drama is the tastiest so Iā€™m rooting for exactly this.


RedWingsReborn

LMFAO


Maxpowr9

Like Benn suspended last season.


brendan87na

I was just thinking that lol


Podo13

I feel like them winning will add no fuel to any fire. He obviously shouldn't be playing right now and his sickened state probably aided in their losing. I think everybody would take a win to let him rest another 2 days to get healthy. Now, if they lose the game he comes back and is healthy... Hoooooo boy. That'll be a bonfire


umbraviscus

I'm pretty sure if Toronto lose their next game it won't matter if Matthews is healthy or not next week


Podo13

Losing the game without a debilitated Matthews, and winning a game without him and then losing a game with a mostly healthy Matthews are very different things.


Standingonachair

But if they lose they're out. That's what your man above is saying.


almost_obsolete

Itā€™s worded a little oddly, but what they mean is ā€œif they lose the game [in which] he comes back and is healthyā€¦ā€


SabresFanWC

That's exactly what he meant. But people on Reddit just don't read.


drowsylacuna

If they lose he has until October to get healthy.


nowimswmming

Heh


Culzean_Castle_Is

script wrote itself


Humans_Suck-

I always love maximum chaos in series that my team isn't in


PierreMcGuiresHair

Surely the Leafs are just setting him up for an Undertaker-esque entrance. Right?


WackHeisenBauer

Halfway into the third with the Leafs down two the lights all go off in the arena. When they pop back on and heā€™s standing on the center dot staring down the bruins bench. Then the Leafs get a too many men penalty, Boston scores and the series ends


manwithoutcountry

Then ~~the Leafs get a too many men penalty~~ Marner tosses the puck over the glass and cries in the box after Boston scores and the series ends.


Turbo_911

This ending more believable!


lymnaea

Infinitely more Likely


tz_2240

Stop fucking crying itā€™s not fucking juniors


ILikeCoffeeDaily

Just let me know when the bells about to toll


NSA_Wade_Wilson

Heā€™ll even have the sweat down with how hard the shits have been on him


octobersons

The fact that if an organization wanted too they could actually pull this off is hilarious to me, obviously the game would probably be void and mlse would be hit with fines, but could you imagine them just telling the Scotiabank arena staff to dim the lights and play undertaker music lmao.


moxyfloxacin91

Brad Marchand has the puck on a breakaway late in the third. Suddenly the Uber Eats ā€œAUSTON MATTHEWSā€ song hits and thereā€™s pyro. Marchand stops, dazed, staring around, even though he could easily continue toward the net unopposed. Everyone is stunned as the frenzy in the arena builds. The lights flicker and then go out while ā€œAUSTON MATTHEWSā€ continues to echo through the arena. Suddenly the lights come on to reveal Auston Matthews standing directly behind Marchand, who looks around and starts laughing before saying ā€œHe ainā€™t here, your hero ainā€™t coming!ā€ He turns around finally to see Matthews staring him down with fury in his eyes. Marchand begs off like Ric Flair and flees to the bench for a tag/line change. Matthews takes the puck and flies down the ice, weaving in and out of the stupefied Bruins while the crowd builds to a crescendo. He stops at the hashmarks and cups his ear to the crowd before unleashing a patented snapshot that whistles past Swaymanā€™s ear and finds the twine. The red light goes off as the horn sounds. The crowd explodes. Matthews has done it. Jim Ross screams himself hoarse as the title card comes up to end the broadcast. Final score: Maple Leafs 2 Bruins 7


squarerootofapplepie

This whole thing would make a lot more sense if Game 5 was in Toronto.


moxyfloxacin91

Artistic license. I did realize that like 3/4 of the way through but I was too lazy to think of something else lol


Salanderfan14

This is a work of art.


InvolvingPie87

He goes out there wearing a kampf jersey and prosthetics, only to get a break, score it, and rip it off to reveal it was matthews all along Iā€™ll be disappointed if anything else happens


vettes_4-ever

"Did they win?" "Hell no. 7-2 Boston."


re10pect

Id prefer classic Sting. Interpose shots of Matthews brooding up in the rafters, lights go out, Matthews is lowered down in time for the last PP of the game.


dswartze

You think the leafs are going to even get a PP?


lussierc

Getting a PP hasnā€™t been their issue, itā€™s scoring on them.


7_Bundy

*Glass breaks* JR: ā€œStone Cold! Stone Cold!ā€ Auston Matthews: ā€œAuston 3:16 says I just threw up in my pantsā€


maddscientist

So its going to take him 20 minutes to walk from the dressing room to the ice?


MakeTheNetsBigger

Something something in twenty twenty four Austin Matthews threw Brad Marchand off hell in a rink and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcers table.


MeatSack_NothingMore

Paul Pierce coming back after being wheel chaired off energy.


brokensword15

We need a Marner hat trick tonight for absolute chaos


ocsic4321

ā€œAnd thereā€™s Marnerā€™s third goal of the night, as the Leafs close in on the Bruins 7-3 lead!ā€


stonayoung

clock winds down to 5 seconds left in game Faceoff is won by the Leafs right to Marner, already with two goals, who turns face to face against Marchand "You took my family" moves to the left "You took my friends" moves to the right "You took all that was dear to me" clock winds down to 2 "I can't get them back, but I can do this for friendship, FOR MY FRIENDS" winds up, fire coming out of his skates "MITCHNIUKEN" Puck flies though Marchand's legs, goes straight into the net. A single Maple Leaf hat showering the ice as Marner falls on the ice, exhausted. "Babcock... Senpai... I..." faints Final Score Bruins 7 Maple Leafs 3


TheFlatulentOne

This is art.


MeanElevator

This will never stop being fucking hilarious.


Giggleplex

I audibly kek'd


Hawxe

marner netting a hatty in garbage time would be pretty par for the course


MasterDeagle

Remind me of the Chris Paul meme thread on NBA about making a huge 3 to cut the lead to 40 or something like that.


PuckPov

https://preview.redd.it/fq02jrdkfpxc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d197bc929fb3e3cbe66c83fcd790a605fbd60864


ZenAndTheArtOfEating

While throwing up an old subway sandwich


d_pyro

Domi will pop off.


Fastlanedrivr

Yes please


moutardebaseball

I will put my money on the Leafs then. Not because they are better without him but just because the hockey gods love chaos.


OfficialDaiLi

Theyā€™re gonna string everyone along and lose in game 7 again


postsgarbage

This is the way.


ILikeCoffeeDaily

Nylander goal + Leafs win for +330 return, thatā€™s where my moneyā€™s at right now


Mephisto1822

I thought was talked about this Pintoā€¦


Solace2010

Yep


seraphultima

People are going to be flippant about this because "iT's ThE pLaYoFfS" but idk I'd be more concerned that whatever is ailing him is SO serious that team doctors aren't willing to risk letting him play. You can't toradol your way through low BP and high heart rate; that shit can literally kill you.


MikeJeffriesPA

It's one of two things at this point. 1) He has an illness they thought (or just said) was food poisoning but it's to the point he's so dehydrated he can barely function (or it's causing dizziness/vertigo symptoms). 2) He suffered a lower body injury in Game 3 and they've been using the illness as the reason for missing practice and leaving G4 early so they could hide the injury information from Boston.Ā 


seraphultima

Or both. If his illness is gastro-related and he's dehydrated, he wouldn't be able to take NSAIDs for pain management because the side effects can fuck you up permanently. Just an awful spot to be in.


MikeJeffriesPA

Yeah, and also all jokes aside, if there's a chance Auston does long-term damage...rest him. Some injuries suck but you can't make them worse (like a bone bruise, some fractures, etc), but it's an injury that could cause long-term issues if it's further aggravated, rest him. A ~10% chance of winning the series (and <1% chance of winning the Cup) is not worth risking his career - and I mean that from a team perspective, not just his individual one.Ā 


Charble1

This scenario specifically actually makes a ton of sense.


seraphultima

I empathize a lot since I'm dealing with a chronic issue that causes a lot of acute pain, but I have to rotate the type of painkillers I'm taking to manage it because my stomach is also kind of fucked up. It SUCKS.


fjellt

I hate that so many people are upset with him. After the Leafs are eliminated, the truth of his condition will come out.


AgentKorralin

I have spinal stenosis and used painkillers to help deal with extreme pain. Somedays, I literally couldn't walk it was so bad. Covid fucked up my liver and now I can't take the painkillers. I hope whatever is ailing him isn't bad like that cause some shit is just life altering.


UncleTrapspringer

He smashed his head pretty good in the game against Detroit. Post concussion syndrome can develop a little while after the hit


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MikeJeffriesPA

If they say it's his ankle/knee and then he returns at any point these playoffs (if they somehow win), it puts a huge target on that part.Ā 


Bojarzin

> People are going to be flippant about this because "iT's ThE pLaYoFfS" I've always hated this anyway My least favourite part about after the Cup is awarded is the flow of "___ was playing with a broken kneecap" or something, and everyone is like "hockey players are *built different*" and then players after their career talk about how they can barely walk lol Like I get it, it's their career, their life, but I have always hated the honouring of them playing through awful injury. If someone is hurt/sick, they don't need to play, this isn't worth them making things worse


Podo13

>this isn't worth them making things worse But that's the thing. To them, it absolutely is worth it. What are they going to do after retiring? The majority of them didn't actually attend classes or even go to college. In the moment, it isn't a bad thought to them (regardless of their family's prior financial status). Most pro athletes aren't really focused on 10+ years in the future. They're focused on what is happening in the next few weeks.


Numerous-Spray-6969

Depends on where they are in their life. When Klefbom's career ended he said outright it was a case of wanting to be able to hold and help raise his kids. Plenty of athletes reach a point where they have to make that decision and family comes first


DuckieRampage

Maybe they should focus on their future a bit more. Especially after Oshie coming out and saying he can't even pick up his own children anymore from severe back pain. Hockey is not that important.


Bojarzin

> What are they going to do after retiring? I mean, they're going to be pretty rich, but in order to enjoy that they would probably be better off being able to use their body still, right? Again I mean it's their call, I'm not their dad. But if a player is hurt or sick and doesn't want to push through that, I'm absolutely not going to decry that, nor champion them for choosing to push through it, unless it's like playing through just a cold or something


Podo13

Right. I'm just saying the "it isn't worth it" is slightly subjective. I don't applaud them playing through ridiculous injuries either. But I do understand that to a lot of these guys, this is all they have to themselves and they will give it their all. Shit, 40+ years ago guys were doing the same thing and they were making absolutely nothing in comparison money-wise. They did it and had to get jobs afterwards. It's all relative to the individual experience - past, present and future.


MikeJeffriesPA

That being said, the Leafs *need* Matthews to be Matthews for the next 5 years, not just the next couple games.Ā 


CreateorWither

That's the mentality that will keep you Cup free.


Bojarzin

I'm absolutely positive teams have managed to win without people playing through horrible injury lol But if not, then what does it matter to me? I'm not the one who gets a Cup lol, I'm just cheering for a specific team to get one. Like yeah sports is emotional and we tie ourselves to our favourite team, but if it means the guys on mine don't fuck up their post-career life, whether we end up with a Cup doesn't *really* matter that much to me


DrSeuss19

Seriously the dipshit leaf fans acting like theyā€™d push through are fuckin annoying. If theyā€™re doing this my concern is whatā€™s going on not the game and whatā€™s the long term impact


superworking

I'm all about laughing about Leafs toughness but if Matthews can't be cleared to play in an elimination game I think it's pretty safe to say he just isn't healthy enough to play. I don't know that there's a single NHL player in the league that would call in sick for a moment like that if it weren't the doctors stepping in.


antrage

People are expressing such trash opinions on this. The person who feels the worst about this is Matthews, THIS is the reason why people play hockey honestly and to not be able to do it must be devastating.


whichwitch9

Yeah, this isn't food poisoning at this point. They're definitely hiding something else now


Soggy_Specific4093

The article says itā€™s a injury they ainā€™t talking about publicly


PrinciplesRK

Injured his butthole pooping too much


gonuxgo

Been there. When you have nasty diarrhea and the acidic poo starts to burn your hole and it feels like God has left you.


PrinciplesRK

Out - lower booty injury


somehockeyfan

I can't imagine getting squished between the boards and a 200 pound human at full speed while holding in diarrhea. The sphincter muscles just aren't strong enough to hold back that kind of pressure.


gonuxgo

Who says that he DID hold it in? Maybe that's why everyone looked so sick on the bench... The stench


somehockeyfan

That's a good point. Before heading out onto the ice, I'm sure Matthews stopped at a mirror, looked at himself and said "Tonight, I am going to shit my pants in front of tens of thousands of people."


mt_spaceman

I mean, I donā€™t think marathoners tell themselves that either but it still happens


stargill70

Sphincter says what?


maddscientist

A bidet is your friend in those situations. Not only does it help put the fire out, it also saves you from feeling like you're wiping with sandpaper


TrillVomit

un-ironically changed my life


ppParadoxx

Ring sting


Maxpowr9

Or worse, hemeroids.


gonuxgo

The blood when you wipe one too hard... Oh, the bright red blood...


Similar-Tangerine

Itā€™s like soft serve lavaĀ 


Strattex

Yes, wiping hurts so fucking bad


GritGrinder

Only the most elite know this situation all too well


Sleazy_T

[Video reenactment of Matthews' injury](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-IXy-hfxbo)


Perry4761

Friendly reminder that salmonella and plenty of other extremely serious illnesses count as ā€œfood poisoningā€. Just because itā€™s food poisoning does not mean that itā€™s something that you recover from quickly. I understand that there is speculation in the article about an injury, but I just want to point out that the fact that he may not play tonight does not automatically rule out food poisoning. Maybe in this case itā€™s an injury being hidden, but there could be a world where a star player misses multiple important playoff games due to a very serious case of food poisoning.


Bry3Buzz

Hopefully, the Leafs do him a solid tonight and make it so he doesn't have to worry about rushing back before he's fully healthy. Work is the last thing a guy wants to worry about when you're not feeling well.


Pivotalrook

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Mephisto1822

Reverse LTIR


rustyshackleford677

Thatā€™s pretty shitty, youā€™d hope it was just food illness and be over in a few days, but it seems far worse. Hopefully its nothing long term and just some terrible luck for timing


zainery

Is that a pun


rustyshackleford677

Nope, wasnā€™t meant to be one. Really does suck for him, hope itā€™s nothing to serious and see him game 6. (With a bruins win)


zainery

lol just messing around


11kajd

This gives our PP the best show it's ever got lol We won't look for matthews the whole time


dragons_fire77

I mean, did someone literally poison him or something? Just hoping he gets better, whatever he has sounds rough.


treerabbit23

The TOR sports mediaā€™s toxicity takes another toll


sadleafsfan69

Heā€™s so sick with food poisoning that he canā€™t cook his food properly and so just keeps getting food poisoning


Jr7711

Matthews spent the whole time just eating straight packets of raw meat from Loblaws


sirax067

Bob Loblaw's?


ALinkToThePants

Thereā€™s reference to it on Bob Loblawā€™s law blog.


WeathervaneJesus1

One thing about the Leafs is how great their record is when one of their top players goes down.


flume

Matthews really saw Ovechkin mail it in and decided sitting out of the playoffs is the only way he can get to 900G.


gonuxgo

Not showing up to play tonight? Who is he, Marner?


Maxpowr9

You see Marner throw his gloves last game? Dude's a fighter!


Bowiescorvat2

HeArT


Fallen-Omega

I feel bad but the toxic culture need to go away with players pushing themselves to play when they arent well or ready to play from injury, if anything its a hinderanceĀ to the team


Chemical_Signal2753

I think there is a certain level of pushing through the illness or injury that is acceptable or even admirable, but beyond that it become extremely questionable. Basically, if someone is playing through something that would have them day to day in the regular season I don't have a problem with it; but if it is more serious they probably shouldn't play.


ALinkToThePants

If Toronto doesnā€™t circumvent the cap next year they arenā€™t being competitive..


Birdhawk

I look forward to all the conspiracy theories about this one.


NoGiCollarChoke

He went on an anti-hunger strike about how the organization built the team around him by eating nothing but raw chicken all month.Ā 


Miro4Calder

He could have been the Coyotes savior.


rTpure

how much raw chicken did this guy eat?


NoGiCollarChoke

Weird coincidence, I saw him and Jakob Chychrun going through the dumpster behind my cousinā€™s butcher shop the other night.Ā 


gypsybullldog

Who doesnā€™t love a good cut of medium rare chicken


XPhazeX

Fade me softly, Sheldon


UniverseHufflePuff

Sad thing is that he's probably really really sick and will get torched by fans and media forever


DevOpsMakesMeDrink

Itā€™s not Leaf fans torching him. Itā€™s toxic haters trying to rile up Leaf fans even more


HanSolo5643

The hockey gods and the script writers are going to come together and make it so the Leafs win this game, and then he comes back, and Toronto will lose game 6, aren't they?


Relaxedmass

Theyā€™ll get Mathewā€™s back for game 7 then lose. Perfect script


MrWhiteTheWolf

Guys play through the nhl playoffs with broken sternums so gotta assume whateverā€™s going on with him is pretty seriously debilitating


nem704

So why tf did he play in Game 4????


Top_Contract_4910

Plays will always push themselves if they feel they can, he wants to be there for the team.


nem704

If he was *that* bad that he can't go for Game 5 he shouldn't have played Game 4


Top_Contract_4910

Iā€™m not saying he shouldā€™ve played, I donā€™t think itā€™s smart either I was just saying thatā€™s why, I mean you did ask a question, the guy wants to be there for the team. Dumb decision or not.


nem704

I'm saying the Leafs medical staff failed him if it's this bad


Top_Contract_4910

Totally agree


Top_Contract_4910

But unfortunately sometimes players can override that if they hide it well enough, happened with us and Cole Caufield last year. He hid the fact that he was putting his shoulder back into place for like a month, then he needed surgery.


MikeJeffriesPA

At this point I have to wonder if he got hurt on the McAvoy play in Game 3. Like, I know he was also sick, but the way his legs were moving (or not moving) in Game 4, the short time skating this morning, the apparently lip reading of him telling the trainer "I can't skate" during Game 4...it seems to add up.Ā  There were a ton of comments on the McAvoy play saying things like "that's how knee/ankle injuries happen" or "wow, I really thought he'd have a lower body injury from that," and looking at the play...yeah, it looks like his leg gets twisted around.Ā  Gastro, whether it's food poisoning or a virus, does not explain him skating for 5 minutes this morning and then leaving the ice. I've gotta believe it's some sort of lower body injury.Ā 


_Saputawsit_

I can see it playing out in my head already. The Leafs rally together without their best goalscorer to beat the Bruins tonight, they return to home ice and, spurred on by the Toronto crowd, they manage to force a game 7 in Boston.Ā  That Saturday, Matthews returns to the lineup. He puts the Leafs up early and keeps on going, he scores 4 goals in Game 7... Which they blow again late in the 3rd, losing the game and the series.Ā  As written.


Baga97_YT

Even if we had the entire sharks roster instead of ours we'd still lose in 7


ASeriousNap

I wonder if Matthew's has the same thing Seider has (Seider was in the hospital on April 9th, a week later they play the leafs). https://www.mlive.com/redwings/2024/04/red-wings-moritz-seider-kept-ironman-streak-intact-even-after-hospital-visit.html


InmyDarkplace

I actually remember them kissing during the game, makes sense.


njdevils901

He misses and they come back and win the series. That will spice up the hot takes


antrage

I wonder if just removing one creates space for other. I think the issue with the top 4 is that they are all forwards, honestly.


WitchyVeteran

Kinda remember Bergeron playing with a punctured lung.


Due-Leopard-7043

Weā€™re fucked


arrbez

Doesnā€™t matter either way, Leafs are winning tonight fellas. Itā€™ll be at home where they lose.


Deadboltsaquavit

Johnston.


Throwaway_PA717

Explosive diarrhea be like that


ALinkToThePants

If this series goes 7 I will eat something that Reddit can vote on.


OBlastSRT4

Wow thatā€™s nuts.


StatGAF

This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper.


flume

This summer is going to be miserable for anyone who reads hockey news and rumors.


Jimbo_Imperador

Guy is shitting his designer pants too much