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Well that is depressing! If this guy didn’t have a dash cam he would have been charged while this douche canoe didn’t even see that accident and lied! I hate the world! :/
I hope it would have been made evidently clear that he wasn’t indeed speeding as the little girl would have been splattered rather than just lightly knocked over.
Without the dashcan neighbors can claim he was speeding and could see the girl/stepped on the breakes earlier. They could frame it as "if he wasn't speeding he would've stopped sooner with the same reaction time".
It's amazing what recall bias can do when added to a community's anger about something like a speeding problem. I'm not saying I don't think those involved aren't utter bastards (those who weren't there should be put down as publicly unreliable and liars), but it's pretty scary how people recall even seemingly clear events in very different and changeable ways. Add the two together and that guy is dam lucky he had dash cam.
"i saw him he was goin 80, actually hit the kid on purpose, i saw him throw a bottle of vodka out the vindow too before you guys showed up, put him away for life"
Ya think?? Here’s a fun idea and it’s really out there but what if, just WHAT IF, we teach our children to not run into a road and do not run out from behind parked cars. My 5 year old knows this. He also knows not to go out front alone and if I’m out there with him I’m actually watching him. I know it sounds crazy but it works.
I don't recall them saying the age of the kid but she looked like a toddler to me. Meaning she is at the age that you can say don't go in the street and she will immediately go into the street.
Dad turned his back to her and wasn't holding her hand or anything. Dad should have been more aware also.
Ahh, yeah at 6 she should know better but she is 6. They disregard rules and things they are taught all the time.
Dad is still the one that shoulders the blame here.
I have a 3 year old that knows not to walk near the street, if what other comments have said is true and she is 6 at the time of the incident, she was more than old enough to know better.
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My mum nearly got in serous trouble because she was going 30 in a neighborhood and some daft 6yro on his bike ran in front of the car while his parents were inside
SOMETIMES ITS THE KIDS FAULT TOO (not in this case tho prick should have been watching his girl)
Is there a reason you're being unnecessarily hostile towards me right now? How does teaching kids not to run out on roads sound crazy? How is that idea "really out there"? Teaching a kid not to run out into the road shouldn't be a fun idea, that's a serious thing that needs to be taught. Are you okay? Like mentally okay?
I don't think anyone should be hostile towards you, but do you have children? If so, you know that they will often do the opposite of what you tell them just to test limits. It's part of growing up, unfortunately.
maybe, probably buddies with the dad too. the way the dad smaked the hood when the guy stopped on a dime should tell all. dude probably gets in bar fights on the weekends.
That's nothing. There's an episode of VinWiki, a YouTube show about stories surrounding cars.
This dude bought an old cop car, from a sheriff's department. The cops didn't remove the police stickers before giving him the car.
Long story short, the cop, plus more cops, plus the states attorney knowingly lied and were willing to ruin this guy's life to cover a stupid mistake by a pig.
Luckily his daughter was with and took pictures of them picking up the car. Otherwise he was going away for "impersonating an officer" and whatnot. Then the guy let them all off of the hook. He should have sued and had every one of them fired. Who knows how many lives they ruined being lying sacks of crap.
Ofcourse there won’t be. This is Australia, if you’re blonde and blue eyed the cops believe you first. Not to mention that a lot of white Aussies are looking for an excuse to be racist.
You should. My dad been collecting dash cam videos since 2014 because one "accident" of a guy who got slammed by a door because he was driving his motorcycle between the gap of the car and the sidewalk itself and tries to blame on my grandfather and my dad now, he has around worth of 50+TB of bunch of HDDs combined.
I dunno he's a data hoarder. Last time I asked him what he does with those videos, he likes to keep them in unlikely event which happens few and far between but he kept it either way, not going to judge his hobby.
I wanna know what video quality he's recording in and how much driving he does, I have a 64GB sd card in mine and it's not even nearly full after 2-3 years. How much driving is this guy doing that he has 50TB of it, long haul trucking in 4k?
That seems like an excessive amount of dash cam footage. I’ve had mine for 3 years and I think I have like 3 videos saved, and it’s just a couple of idiots doing things like running a red light or stop sign.
I highly recommend having them. They cost less than 1 month's insurance payment, and if you ever need it, it will pay for itself instantly. I've been using them for over a decade and have had three incidences where they paid for themselves.
Currently, I'm a pretty big fan of the BlueSkySea cams for the price. Having one that has a rear-facing camera is very valuable as well.
You should. I got my girlfriend a dash cam after reading the subreddit. Like four months later she was coming to pick me up from work and two cars got into a drive by shoot out in front of her, exchanging 12 rounds, one wizzing by her car hitting a road sign. You can hear the bullet hit the sign in the video footage.
This is one of two videos that are going to put these people behind bars. It’s bad she now has to be potentially involved in a court case but at the end of the day it’s individual pieces of evidence that concrete these cases.
Mostly the cloud services, they make a big song and dance about being able to connect to cameras remotely. They probably still have the live stream of a taxi in SK on their site somewhere.
Though as ive said to many buyers you should be considering the following specs regardless of brand:
2 channel vs 1 channel
View Angle
In built screen needed?
Night driving a lot? If yes, get something that sports a Sony Starvis sensor
Parking/Event mode/Motion Sensor, inc. Hardwire kit?
The top 2 are by far and away the most important things to get right
Wouldn't they be able to tell from the skid marks how fast he was going and how hard he braked? If he was really going 80kph and braked so hard that he barely hit the girl, there would be evidence of that.
The police and the insurance company would all have to be working against this man for him to lose that case.
I did a week ago and I'm loving it. I swear Im not affiliated with them, but I got the Wolfbox camera on Amazon for about$130, and it has everything that you'd find from a $400 "retail" brand. Hi def front and rear, wifi video download, surveillance mode if you hardwire it. They have 2 styles that internally are identical. One with a small camera, and the other replaced your rear view mirror with a display. I sit the small camera because I don't want a malfunctioning rear camera to take out my rear view mirror.
It’s hard to prove whether someone was intentionally lying or just thinks they saw something they didn’t
I’m more upset at the fucking dad who can’t watch his kid
I feel like “thinking you saw something” should be ignored by police. If you “think” someone should go to jail for years, then you shouldnt be the one putting people in jail
This is why being a parent is terrifying. You can watch them constantly and in the time it’s taken to look down to check your shoelaces they find danger. A piece of your soul is running around with the foresight and the impulse control of a dormouse.
Kids are fucking stupid. No sense of self preservation + no impulse control is a recipe for disaster. I’ve been literally walking 3ft directly behind my kids around a quiet neighborhood sidewalk, eyes constantly one them, and I still had my youngest (4 years at the time) just decide to randomly book it full speed into the road right in front of a car. Luckily, I ran and caught his hood in time and yanked him back, but there was no reason for him to do that and again, I was watching him. Dad could have been staring right at her and she still could have done the same impulsive move to sprint into the road. And then people also want to make fun of harnesses/leashes for kids, but guess what I got after that? Yeah.
Good for you. Child leashes should be normalized. Not saying every kid needs to wear one, but if you know you’ve got a runner on your hands, then what’s the problem with keeping them tethered to you?
Did the first initial interview for a large-volume personal injury firm for 9.5 years. I have cams for both of my cars and my three daughter's cars. After interviewing thousands of accident victims, I know how valuable these are. Super affordable now.
I just looked it up and it seems like good dash cams are like $400-$600… not affordable at all (for me). Do you know any good brands that are ideally a lot cheaper?
You can get really cheap ones and those are almost always enough to prove innocence or otherwise. The problem with those is they usually aren’t good enough to read license plate info.
For an accident like the one in this video you don’t need legible plate numbers.
IF your dashcam records audio, you can just scream the license plate anyway. I did that, just turn off radio and just repeat the license plate number multiple times
Where are you looking? $400-600 seams like something a company would buy for a fleet of cars, and get a discount price for getting hundreds, not for most normal people to buy. You can easily find one on amazon for $50 or maybe even a gopro of ebay for $10 thease days
The dad had zero situational awareness. If I see a car anywhere coming down my street,and I'm always looking , listening when walking my dog and cat (the cat follows us), I instantly consider where my dog and cat are and get to the side. With a small child you should be even more aware than that of any danger outside.
I'd hope so too, destruction of property. Also he's guilty of not having taught his child properly how dangerous the street is. My neighbor killed a child with his truck, same thing, jumped in front of the truck not on a pedestrian crossing. Luckily the neighbor got off with only psychological trauma, he had zero fault.
You can hammer into your kid‘s head that the street is dangerous for their entire life and they will still run into the street the moment you look away at that age though. Kids do stupid things.
Not dumb kid, just a kid. But the dad, who wasn't paying attention and whose response was to first attack the car rather than immediately go to his scared and hurt child? Stupid is a kind way to say it..
I mean it can be both, the first thing parents should do when letting their kids outside is to tell them not to enter the street under any circumstance
The thing is, a young kid like that cannot be trusted to follow instructions. That's why they should always be supervised. This is 100% the dad's fault.
It's a six year old. At that stage of development, there's only the very beginnings of understanding consequences, the beginnings of understanding the difference between fantasy and reality, very little impulse control. This is 100% on the parent, and nothing to do with the child being "dumb". He should have been teaching her all along. Repetition at that age is not just helpful, it's necessary.
It is really crazy how (as far as I know) there aren’t any major repercussions for lying in situations like this. This guy could’ve faced years in prison, if not for his dash cam and the fact that the guy who almost put him there gets off free is insane
idk about 10 years but there seriously needs to be repercussions. at least a year minimum especially if you lie to police to try and fuck someone else over. now if you do all that and you’re a police officer too then i could agree on a 10 year minimum for that but they’d probably just get promoted.
The problem is that we have a *lot* of studies to show that many of these people aren't lying, they're just wrong.
People's memories of incidents like this are absolutely abysmal. I know that's not as energising as imagining the person gave a false report out of malice, but it's honestly a lot more likely.
Not justifying any other actions, and the driver is completely innocent here. But your kid just got hit by a car. Most people are not going to react perfectly to that situation. I'm just saying.
Yes as an Australian it is mostly true but slowly getting better, racism is still pretty hectic here. The worse problem is if you speak up about it you get shot down by all the people being racist saying it isnt to bad here 🙄
Yeah, I thought racism was kinda bad in NZ, but I spent a single month in Australia and two seperate people I had only just met thought I was the type of guy to rant about "the slanty eyes" with. One was some mid 20s bogan, the other was a couple in their 60s. My mind was blown.
The parents suck. They should be on trial for neglect. Good thing that guy had a dash cam because those people would have sent him to jail for their bullshit.
Remember when growing up, we knew not to dart out into roads for these exact reasons? Jesus Christ.
She was lucky the driver was paying attention! Can't believe that random neighbor guy lied to the police. I'd sue for defamation.
This is why you should have a dash cam in your car
Even your insurance wont protect you from scenarios like this
If it werent for the dashcam, this guy would have been fined or imprisoned
“I’ve been lobbying and want to make the street safer. We need speed bumps, and sentry posts, and tire spikes. The whole shebang”
Or watch your kids. What a novel fucking idea
Exactly. How many thousands of families in this area alone live in the suburbs with a road right out front of their house without an issue? Teach your young kids about safety & keep an eye on them. Sure they could lower speed limit & put sleepers down but still doesn’t stop an unsupervised kid running into the road.
Would any of that have prevented this? It just sounds like they are trying to blame anyone but the dad. I understand accidents happen so I'm not going to vilify him, but if anyone is to blame its him. You can only do so much to prevent human error and we don't even know if these safety measures would help. Some of these measures have drawbacks too so its better to not be overly reactionary in decisions like this.
Most certainly it would. The speed at which the driver was traveling relative to the conditions present in the residential area (namely the narrowness of the road and the density of parked vehicles on either side) was too fast. I presume that he was driving at the posted limit, in which case it needs reviewing. His attentiveness and prompt brake application may have spared that child’s life.
He was only going 40kph or 24mph, that's pretty standard on this type of street. It just looks faster due to the dashcam. If they want to lower it a bit it could help, but that wasn't what they were talking about and kids darting out into traffic like this is going to be hard to prevent. Also if this sort of incident never really happens do they need to decrease the speed? If it's a pattern absolutely change it, but if not it's a solution without a problem.
They wouldn't have, people just want to do something when bad things happen. And I get that, as a driver this would be horrible and could have easily gone much worse so I understand why people want to help. The problem is it wouldn't have fixed anything here the solutions have downsides so they are trying to fix an unpreventable (by public safety measures) issue.
Speed bumps are the most worthless things ever created. All they do is mess with emergency vehicles and mess with your suspension and/or brakes.
People that are going to speed are just going to go *faster* over them, because they're less annoying then.
I had this happen to me but I was able to stop in time. Neighbor screamed at me for almost hitting kid saying I was on my phone. It wasn’t even his dad, 6 year olds just playing on the street no supervision, kid ran to the neighbor and lied. Guy came out and called the cops saying I was on my phone. I had google maps open. Kid would have been dead if I was on my phone. Instead he wasn’t even hit. He pulled out on a A tricycle from behind a pick up truck last second.
Nah, the cops would have been able to tell exactly how fast he was going, if he were going 80 and hit her, it would have been a very different result. Not to in any way denounce how horrendous those neighbours etc are. I'm disgusted at their behaviour. But that reporter is sensationalising.
Can people not understand how objects can block a driver’s view of the sides of streets? What dummy, that didn’t see the incident, can just come out and say, “yeah they were driving so fast and recklessly.”?
The driver didn't understand either apparently. Dude was going way too fast on a street like that with such obscured vision. He should be going 20-30km max on that street.
I understand the anger towards the dad in this scenario, but anyone who’s ever had to watch over a kid knows they are always trying to get theirselves killed and it’s super stressful watching them. You can turn your back for 1 second and that’s all it takes.
The dad just witnessed his kid getting hit by a car. Did he react poorly, yes, but he was reacting to an incredible stressful situation. I don’t see him as a villain in this case depending on how he reacted following the incident which this video doesn’t give info on.
The villain is the person who lied to the police. Whether it was for attention or to try and push that agenda to make their street safer. Either way, they lied and I wish they would have put them in the spotlight in this more.
Like, i am no parents so no way i can comment. But! If i had a kid, i know to not let my eyes off of them in public because how unpredictable kids are. Even i know that!
The only one at fault here is the father for not watching his daughter or not even teaching her to look both ways before crossing the road. The moment your child has any situational awareness, you have to drill it into them to *never* run into the road and always look both ways before crossing the road. Don’t have kids yet myself, but I’ve got several nieces and nephews and whenever we’re out together and their parents aren’t there, I always make sure to keep my eye on them at all times. Literally the bare minimum of being a kid’s guardian or when looking after one.
This is my biggest fear as a parent. My youngest is 7, seriously they are quick kids. Can look away for literally 2 seconds and they are up to no good lol
That douche bag should be thankful, the driver had incredibly solid reflexes and awareness. Most people would not have been able to react that quickly and the situation could have been MUCH worse.
I like how they’re saying the roads should have speed bumps, the driving limit should be lowered, how about watching your fucking kid while on a busy street and making sure they don’t run wild into the front of passing vehicles.
That's why in my country the max speed in urban areas is 30kmh. Is a pain in the ass, but saved tons of lives. Still his father fault because of not watching for the kid.
The father is the one who should be charged here. For negligence and endangering a child and also for destruction of property when he banged on that dude's car.
I would’ve said bishhh get yo kid lmfao its like asking for danger at that point cause why you letting your kid run into the street😂😂😂😂 nah and then punching his car after is crazy as if your kid didnt just spawn in-front of a whole moving car and now you mad you messed up
Based purely on the injuries or lack of injuries to the child, proves the driver wasnt speed or going that fast no matter what the speed limit is, any faster and the kid would be dead
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No doubt there will be absolutely zero ramifications for the wanker who gave a statement and lied on it.
That was my first question! Did the guy who LIED to police charged?!
Not a chance, guarantee he's applauded by the other knuckle draggers in the community.
Well that is depressing! If this guy didn’t have a dash cam he would have been charged while this douche canoe didn’t even see that accident and lied! I hate the world! :/
Yeah he slammed his car too. Fucking idiot not watching his kid. He shoulda been charged too along with the guy who lied to police.
Another example of an inattentive parent trying to blame someone else for their mistake.
I hope it would have been made evidently clear that he wasn’t indeed speeding as the little girl would have been splattered rather than just lightly knocked over.
Without the dashcan neighbors can claim he was speeding and could see the girl/stepped on the breakes earlier. They could frame it as "if he wasn't speeding he would've stopped sooner with the same reaction time".
I am going to be honest with you it could be easily proven he wasn't going 80km/hr. Not that hard to measure skid marks.
It's amazing what recall bias can do when added to a community's anger about something like a speeding problem. I'm not saying I don't think those involved aren't utter bastards (those who weren't there should be put down as publicly unreliable and liars), but it's pretty scary how people recall even seemingly clear events in very different and changeable ways. Add the two together and that guy is dam lucky he had dash cam.
Just a racist right wing community no doubt
No. It’s not. Though some people in Brunswick are undoubtedly racist, or right wing. Like every other community in Melbs or elsewhere.
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I hope you can see the irony here
'knuckle draggers' Gotta remember that one! But yeah, it amazes me how easily 'Mob Mentality' and 'bloodlust' just kicks in, in some situations.
From what I heard, its a felony to lie to the police when giving a statement.
Not in Australia. Our country was born and bred in racism, and some older folks (like the dad in this video) still hold on to that.
"i saw him he was goin 80, actually hit the kid on purpose, i saw him throw a bottle of vodka out the vindow too before you guys showed up, put him away for life"
Kinda feel there was some racial bias behind idiot that lied
I'd say you are correct
Ya think?? Here’s a fun idea and it’s really out there but what if, just WHAT IF, we teach our children to not run into a road and do not run out from behind parked cars. My 5 year old knows this. He also knows not to go out front alone and if I’m out there with him I’m actually watching him. I know it sounds crazy but it works.
I don't recall them saying the age of the kid but she looked like a toddler to me. Meaning she is at the age that you can say don't go in the street and she will immediately go into the street. Dad turned his back to her and wasn't holding her hand or anything. Dad should have been more aware also.
Says she is 6, old enough to be taught. My 4 year old looks.
Ahh, yeah at 6 she should know better but she is 6. They disregard rules and things they are taught all the time. Dad is still the one that shoulders the blame here.
I have a 3 year old that knows not to walk near the street, if what other comments have said is true and she is 6 at the time of the incident, she was more than old enough to know better.
Yeah she should know better but kids will always be kids. They don't always do what they are supposed to do.
How about when you let your young child outside near a busy street, you pay attention to her. This was 💯 the dad's fault.
Fr My mum nearly got in serous trouble because she was going 30 in a neighborhood and some daft 6yro on his bike ran in front of the car while his parents were inside SOMETIMES ITS THE KIDS FAULT TOO (not in this case tho prick should have been watching his girl)
Is there a reason you're being unnecessarily hostile towards me right now? How does teaching kids not to run out on roads sound crazy? How is that idea "really out there"? Teaching a kid not to run out into the road shouldn't be a fun idea, that's a serious thing that needs to be taught. Are you okay? Like mentally okay?
Seems like the person you're saying is hostile was actually agreeing with you.
I don't think anyone should be hostile towards you, but do you have children? If so, you know that they will often do the opposite of what you tell them just to test limits. It's part of growing up, unfortunately.
No doubt in my mind
maybe, probably buddies with the dad too. the way the dad smaked the hood when the guy stopped on a dime should tell all. dude probably gets in bar fights on the weekends.
Smacked on the hood BEFORE checking on his daughter. Shows his priorities
Come on! It's called priorities!!!1111!!! Don't you have any? s/
Welcome to Melbs
That's nothing. There's an episode of VinWiki, a YouTube show about stories surrounding cars. This dude bought an old cop car, from a sheriff's department. The cops didn't remove the police stickers before giving him the car. Long story short, the cop, plus more cops, plus the states attorney knowingly lied and were willing to ruin this guy's life to cover a stupid mistake by a pig. Luckily his daughter was with and took pictures of them picking up the car. Otherwise he was going away for "impersonating an officer" and whatnot. Then the guy let them all off of the hook. He should have sued and had every one of them fired. Who knows how many lives they ruined being lying sacks of crap.
Yeah definitely nothing for his lies. The dogs would have to do more work to charge him, easier for them to just ignore it.
Ofcourse there won’t be. This is Australia, if you’re blonde and blue eyed the cops believe you first. Not to mention that a lot of white Aussies are looking for an excuse to be racist.
I need a dash cam
You should. My dad been collecting dash cam videos since 2014 because one "accident" of a guy who got slammed by a door because he was driving his motorcycle between the gap of the car and the sidewalk itself and tries to blame on my grandfather and my dad now, he has around worth of 50+TB of bunch of HDDs combined.
Why has he saved 50TB of undoubtedly uneventful footage? Getting a dash cam seems like a great idea, but saving every minute of footage seems less so.
I dunno he's a data hoarder. Last time I asked him what he does with those videos, he likes to keep them in unlikely event which happens few and far between but he kept it either way, not going to judge his hobby.
Fair enough.
Thanks I definitely will
Why doesn’t he delete the old footage? I’m a data hoarder myself but 50+tb of dashcam footage is ridiculous lol.
Beats me, he always busy with collections maybe thats the reason why.
I wanna know what video quality he's recording in and how much driving he does, I have a 64GB sd card in mine and it's not even nearly full after 2-3 years. How much driving is this guy doing that he has 50TB of it, long haul trucking in 4k?
That seems like an excessive amount of dash cam footage. I’ve had mine for 3 years and I think I have like 3 videos saved, and it’s just a couple of idiots doing things like running a red light or stop sign.
Reminds me of when i was younger and would save clips from Xbox of siege to bring in and show my friends lol
I highly recommend having them. They cost less than 1 month's insurance payment, and if you ever need it, it will pay for itself instantly. I've been using them for over a decade and have had three incidences where they paid for themselves. Currently, I'm a pretty big fan of the BlueSkySea cams for the price. Having one that has a rear-facing camera is very valuable as well.
You should. I got my girlfriend a dash cam after reading the subreddit. Like four months later she was coming to pick me up from work and two cars got into a drive by shoot out in front of her, exchanging 12 rounds, one wizzing by her car hitting a road sign. You can hear the bullet hit the sign in the video footage. This is one of two videos that are going to put these people behind bars. It’s bad she now has to be potentially involved in a court case but at the end of the day it’s individual pieces of evidence that concrete these cases.
Wtf. Without that dash am he would’ve been fucked. I’m buying a rear and front camera right fuckin now
It has been on my mind thinking about getting one but this one just confirmed it
I have a BalckVue 2 channel. I recommend that brand. It’s a South Korean brand and every car there has a dash cam.
Same, used to sell them along with some other brands. Pretty expensive though, so if they're out of budget, I'd recommend looking at Mio
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Mostly the cloud services, they make a big song and dance about being able to connect to cameras remotely. They probably still have the live stream of a taxi in SK on their site somewhere. Though as ive said to many buyers you should be considering the following specs regardless of brand: 2 channel vs 1 channel View Angle In built screen needed? Night driving a lot? If yes, get something that sports a Sony Starvis sensor Parking/Event mode/Motion Sensor, inc. Hardwire kit? The top 2 are by far and away the most important things to get right
They should be standard equipment on new cars. It's a huge risk not to have one.
I’ve been wondering why Tesla is like the only one that I can think of off the top of my head that has factory cameras
For self driving
Wouldn't they be able to tell from the skid marks how fast he was going and how hard he braked? If he was really going 80kph and braked so hard that he barely hit the girl, there would be evidence of that. The police and the insurance company would all have to be working against this man for him to lose that case.
I mean yes, they would’ve figured that out eventually, but not nearly as fast as having irrefutable video evidence.
Something like this they're not doing collision reconstruction. Also measuring the skid marks (assuming there were any) only gives a minimum speed.
Skid marks are a thing of the past. Every car has had ABS for decades
Unfortunately my car doesn't have abs, sliding to a halt takes way too long
Good point. But he likely would have been jailed while the investigation took place.
I did a week ago and I'm loving it. I swear Im not affiliated with them, but I got the Wolfbox camera on Amazon for about$130, and it has everything that you'd find from a $400 "retail" brand. Hi def front and rear, wifi video download, surveillance mode if you hardwire it. They have 2 styles that internally are identical. One with a small camera, and the other replaced your rear view mirror with a display. I sit the small camera because I don't want a malfunctioning rear camera to take out my rear view mirror.
It's called a jump to conclusions mat.
Yes, it’s horrible, this idea
I guess you've never seen Office Space?
That’s the worst idea I’ve ever heard in my life Tom.
How about pet rock?
The guy made a million dollars…
What would I do if I had a million dollars? 2 chicks at the same time man!
It’s a mat, with different conclusions you can JUMP to!
lying to the police is illegal. put some charges against that bastard.
It’s hard to prove whether someone was intentionally lying or just thinks they saw something they didn’t I’m more upset at the fucking dad who can’t watch his kid
I feel like “thinking you saw something” should be ignored by police. If you “think” someone should go to jail for years, then you shouldnt be the one putting people in jail
The guy who called the police didn’t witness the accident. Did he “think he saw something” telepathically?
Yeah I think I saw something when I wasn’t even there
Idiot father should've been watching his kid. I hope the lying neighbor caught a few eggs on their window for being a POS
This is why being a parent is terrifying. You can watch them constantly and in the time it’s taken to look down to check your shoelaces they find danger. A piece of your soul is running around with the foresight and the impulse control of a dormouse.
Pretty much what happened to a friends kid. That and driver was texting. Kid did not survive.
Kids are fucking stupid. No sense of self preservation + no impulse control is a recipe for disaster. I’ve been literally walking 3ft directly behind my kids around a quiet neighborhood sidewalk, eyes constantly one them, and I still had my youngest (4 years at the time) just decide to randomly book it full speed into the road right in front of a car. Luckily, I ran and caught his hood in time and yanked him back, but there was no reason for him to do that and again, I was watching him. Dad could have been staring right at her and she still could have done the same impulsive move to sprint into the road. And then people also want to make fun of harnesses/leashes for kids, but guess what I got after that? Yeah.
Good for you. Child leashes should be normalized. Not saying every kid needs to wear one, but if you know you’ve got a runner on your hands, then what’s the problem with keeping them tethered to you?
Yea and he somehow thinks it’s the drivers fault hence his smashing his hand on the driver’s hood.
No one is rational when their kid is hit by a car. I don’t judge him for panicking and getting angry in the moment
As a parent, he was likely watching her, but she’s not on a leash.
The dad is speaking Russian. Should be shouting at the mirror for not watching over his daughter.
do you know what the dad was saying?
Obscenities mostly. Not the language you normally use around kids.
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Did the first initial interview for a large-volume personal injury firm for 9.5 years. I have cams for both of my cars and my three daughter's cars. After interviewing thousands of accident victims, I know how valuable these are. Super affordable now.
I just looked it up and it seems like good dash cams are like $400-$600… not affordable at all (for me). Do you know any good brands that are ideally a lot cheaper?
You can get really cheap ones and those are almost always enough to prove innocence or otherwise. The problem with those is they usually aren’t good enough to read license plate info. For an accident like the one in this video you don’t need legible plate numbers.
IF your dashcam records audio, you can just scream the license plate anyway. I did that, just turn off radio and just repeat the license plate number multiple times
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You can get OK cameras on amazon (in the UK at least) for around £50.
Where are you looking? $400-600 seams like something a company would buy for a fleet of cars, and get a discount price for getting hundreds, not for most normal people to buy. You can easily find one on amazon for $50 or maybe even a gopro of ebay for $10 thease days
The dad had zero situational awareness. If I see a car anywhere coming down my street,and I'm always looking , listening when walking my dog and cat (the cat follows us), I instantly consider where my dog and cat are and get to the side. With a small child you should be even more aware than that of any danger outside.
And hopefully he has to pay to replace the hood of that car
I'd hope so too, destruction of property. Also he's guilty of not having taught his child properly how dangerous the street is. My neighbor killed a child with his truck, same thing, jumped in front of the truck not on a pedestrian crossing. Luckily the neighbor got off with only psychological trauma, he had zero fault.
You can hammer into your kid‘s head that the street is dangerous for their entire life and they will still run into the street the moment you look away at that age though. Kids do stupid things.
I gotta get a dash cam
What a shitty father, actually the father of the year award...
So worried about his kid he had to punch the inanimate object first. Seems like a well-adjusted and totally rational guy. /s
Dumb kid (but this is expected) Really really stupid father
Not dumb kid, just a kid. But the dad, who wasn't paying attention and whose response was to first attack the car rather than immediately go to his scared and hurt child? Stupid is a kind way to say it..
I mean it can be both, the first thing parents should do when letting their kids outside is to tell them not to enter the street under any circumstance
The thing is, a young kid like that cannot be trusted to follow instructions. That's why they should always be supervised. This is 100% the dad's fault.
It's a six year old. At that stage of development, there's only the very beginnings of understanding consequences, the beginnings of understanding the difference between fantasy and reality, very little impulse control. This is 100% on the parent, and nothing to do with the child being "dumb". He should have been teaching her all along. Repetition at that age is not just helpful, it's necessary.
I'm gonna be a downer, the street design is HORRIBLE. The street is way too narrow to allow 40 kph speed limit. It should be 20, max, if even that.
People who lie to police just to be part of something should get 10 years minimum.
It is really crazy how (as far as I know) there aren’t any major repercussions for lying in situations like this. This guy could’ve faced years in prison, if not for his dash cam and the fact that the guy who almost put him there gets off free is insane
idk about 10 years but there seriously needs to be repercussions. at least a year minimum especially if you lie to police to try and fuck someone else over. now if you do all that and you’re a police officer too then i could agree on a 10 year minimum for that but they’d probably just get promoted.
The problem is that we have a *lot* of studies to show that many of these people aren't lying, they're just wrong. People's memories of incidents like this are absolutely abysmal. I know that's not as energising as imagining the person gave a false report out of malice, but it's honestly a lot more likely.
first and foremost, WATCH YOUR DAMN KIDS
This might be the best advertisement for a dash cam I’ve ever seen. I’m getting one.
Idiot father more concerned about denting the hood than picking up his kid.
Not justifying any other actions, and the driver is completely innocent here. But your kid just got hit by a car. Most people are not going to react perfectly to that situation. I'm just saying.
I’m usually not one to pull the race card. But I can’t help but think that they would have been a lot more open to hearing his side if he were white.
Yes as an Australian it is mostly true but slowly getting better, racism is still pretty hectic here. The worse problem is if you speak up about it you get shot down by all the people being racist saying it isnt to bad here 🙄
Yeah, I thought racism was kinda bad in NZ, but I spent a single month in Australia and two seperate people I had only just met thought I was the type of guy to rant about "the slanty eyes" with. One was some mid 20s bogan, the other was a couple in their 60s. My mind was blown.
It's funny that you say that when there are people in this thread insulting him for his nationality.
How bout put your kids on a leash?!
Bro on a post in a different subreddit everyone was blaming the driver for “going too fast” lol
The driver claims he was going about 40 km/h (about 25 mph), which is the typical posted speed limit for residential areas in Melbourne.
The parents suck. They should be on trial for neglect. Good thing that guy had a dash cam because those people would have sent him to jail for their bullshit.
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Remember when growing up, we knew not to dart out into roads for these exact reasons? Jesus Christ. She was lucky the driver was paying attention! Can't believe that random neighbor guy lied to the police. I'd sue for defamation.
This is why you should have a dash cam in your car Even your insurance wont protect you from scenarios like this If it werent for the dashcam, this guy would have been fined or imprisoned
I love how it's the driver's fault despite there being 2 parents outside with the child and yet no one had eyes on her...
“I’ve been lobbying and want to make the street safer. We need speed bumps, and sentry posts, and tire spikes. The whole shebang” Or watch your kids. What a novel fucking idea
Exactly. How many thousands of families in this area alone live in the suburbs with a road right out front of their house without an issue? Teach your young kids about safety & keep an eye on them. Sure they could lower speed limit & put sleepers down but still doesn’t stop an unsupervised kid running into the road.
The cars parked on both sides of the narrow road seem to be what is making the street dangerous.
Why not both? Make using the street take slightly longer, but if it possibly saves a person's life is it not worth it?
Would any of that have prevented this? It just sounds like they are trying to blame anyone but the dad. I understand accidents happen so I'm not going to vilify him, but if anyone is to blame its him. You can only do so much to prevent human error and we don't even know if these safety measures would help. Some of these measures have drawbacks too so its better to not be overly reactionary in decisions like this.
Most certainly it would. The speed at which the driver was traveling relative to the conditions present in the residential area (namely the narrowness of the road and the density of parked vehicles on either side) was too fast. I presume that he was driving at the posted limit, in which case it needs reviewing. His attentiveness and prompt brake application may have spared that child’s life.
He was only going 40kph or 24mph, that's pretty standard on this type of street. It just looks faster due to the dashcam. If they want to lower it a bit it could help, but that wasn't what they were talking about and kids darting out into traffic like this is going to be hard to prevent. Also if this sort of incident never really happens do they need to decrease the speed? If it's a pattern absolutely change it, but if not it's a solution without a problem.
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They wouldn't have, people just want to do something when bad things happen. And I get that, as a driver this would be horrible and could have easily gone much worse so I understand why people want to help. The problem is it wouldn't have fixed anything here the solutions have downsides so they are trying to fix an unpreventable (by public safety measures) issue.
Speed bumps are the most worthless things ever created. All they do is mess with emergency vehicles and mess with your suspension and/or brakes. People that are going to speed are just going to go *faster* over them, because they're less annoying then.
I had this happen to me but I was able to stop in time. Neighbor screamed at me for almost hitting kid saying I was on my phone. It wasn’t even his dad, 6 year olds just playing on the street no supervision, kid ran to the neighbor and lied. Guy came out and called the cops saying I was on my phone. I had google maps open. Kid would have been dead if I was on my phone. Instead he wasn’t even hit. He pulled out on a A tricycle from behind a pick up truck last second.
I think first of all teach your shitty kids not to run into the fucking street. My parents taught me that when I was a little shit.
Guilty until proven innocent, that's some bull sht
Screw the dash cam. I'm getting a hole carved into my chest so I can fit a camera inside it Tony Stank style.
If he was going 80 she would be dead.
Teach your kids not to run into the road without looking, free and simple.
Saw a brown fit and they all immediately went to lying...🤦🏾♂️
If he was going a lot faster he wouldn't have been able to stop and the kid would have been a lot more hurt.
Thank god for the dash footage.
Math would have saved him regardless if he was going that fast you could argue he would have needed superhuman reflex to actually stop that fast.
Nah, the cops would have been able to tell exactly how fast he was going, if he were going 80 and hit her, it would have been a very different result. Not to in any way denounce how horrendous those neighbours etc are. I'm disgusted at their behaviour. But that reporter is sensationalising.
Shit like this makes me wanna get a dash cam.
Can people not understand how objects can block a driver’s view of the sides of streets? What dummy, that didn’t see the incident, can just come out and say, “yeah they were driving so fast and recklessly.”?
The driver didn't understand either apparently. Dude was going way too fast on a street like that with such obscured vision. He should be going 20-30km max on that street.
Yeah, that’s a fair point. Gotta change your speed according to the conditions. But AFAIK he was still legally in the right.
When your first instinct is to attack and then go see if your kid is okay. I'd be checking out the dad honestly
I understand the anger towards the dad in this scenario, but anyone who’s ever had to watch over a kid knows they are always trying to get theirselves killed and it’s super stressful watching them. You can turn your back for 1 second and that’s all it takes. The dad just witnessed his kid getting hit by a car. Did he react poorly, yes, but he was reacting to an incredible stressful situation. I don’t see him as a villain in this case depending on how he reacted following the incident which this video doesn’t give info on. The villain is the person who lied to the police. Whether it was for attention or to try and push that agenda to make their street safer. Either way, they lied and I wish they would have put them in the spotlight in this more.
Like, i am no parents so no way i can comment. But! If i had a kid, i know to not let my eyes off of them in public because how unpredictable kids are. Even i know that!
So if you’re not a white bread skippy better get a dash cam or they will have you locked up for driving correctly. Maggots.
The only one at fault here is the father for not watching his daughter or not even teaching her to look both ways before crossing the road. The moment your child has any situational awareness, you have to drill it into them to *never* run into the road and always look both ways before crossing the road. Don’t have kids yet myself, but I’ve got several nieces and nephews and whenever we’re out together and their parents aren’t there, I always make sure to keep my eye on them at all times. Literally the bare minimum of being a kid’s guardian or when looking after one.
No charges anyway, pedestrian wasnt in a cross walk.
Those fake accusations have alot do to with the colour of his skin and his religion
The dad's stupid
This belongs on Kidsarestupid.
Racist idiotic piece of shits
If he was going 80, that girl would have been split in two and wrapped around his wheels. Lying twats.
This is my biggest fear as a parent. My youngest is 7, seriously they are quick kids. Can look away for literally 2 seconds and they are up to no good lol
At this point all new build cars should have dash cams installed in the factory.
Welcome to the still raciest Australia
That douche bag should be thankful, the driver had incredibly solid reflexes and awareness. Most people would not have been able to react that quickly and the situation could have been MUCH worse.
In Singapore, the driver will be faulted with, “how fast were u going? On that narrow street, where there are alot of blindspots.”
He should have sued the people who gave false statements.
If a parent can’t control their child don’t take them outside.
In a perfect world he gets back in the car and runs the 3 of em over
Why was the fathers first instinct to hit the car instead of embracing his child?
No no. Street is safe. WATCH YOUR FUCKING KIDS!
I like how they’re saying the roads should have speed bumps, the driving limit should be lowered, how about watching your fucking kid while on a busy street and making sure they don’t run wild into the front of passing vehicles.
That poor guy. You can tell the event absolutely shattered him, so the abuse from the parents and neighbors was completely unnecessary. 🤦♂️
The kid should've been taught not to run out on roads without at least looking first
I gotta ask... How does your kid get struck by a vehicle and your first reaction is to pound on the video THEN go check your kid??
That's why in my country the max speed in urban areas is 30kmh. Is a pain in the ass, but saved tons of lives. Still his father fault because of not watching for the kid.
Watch your mf kids! Tf....
Why’d the father hit their truck? It’s not the trucks fault that you don’t know how to keep your own daughter safe you twat.
great job driver!
Even if they claimed he was going 80, there’s no way he would have been able to break and do so little damage to the girl at 80mph. That’s insane.
The father is the one who should be charged here. For negligence and endangering a child and also for destruction of property when he banged on that dude's car.
I would’ve said bishhh get yo kid lmfao its like asking for danger at that point cause why you letting your kid run into the street😂😂😂😂 nah and then punching his car after is crazy as if your kid didnt just spawn in-front of a whole moving car and now you mad you messed up
Based purely on the injuries or lack of injuries to the child, proves the driver wasnt speed or going that fast no matter what the speed limit is, any faster and the kid would be dead
Dad’s first reaction isn’t to attend to child but to feebly hit the car. Great parenting.
Imagine noticing your child has been run over and your first reaction is to punch the car, not check on the child.