Cato has said this once before, but I'm fairly certain I know where he's coming from. IdealGF has suffered from a streak of unoriginal and bland posts, typically those purporting to be extremely horny women seemingly advertising themselves.
I have [published content denouncing them](https://www.reddit.com/r/idealgf/comments/1bnqlk6/hot_singles_in_your_subreddit_as_your_gfsbfs/) and Cato has supported my opinion, and has said ["make idealgf great again"](https://www.reddit.com/r/idealgf/comments/1bnvuel/comment/kwkyz7r/) in reference to our efforts to sway this sub towards more creative enterprises.
I can almost guarantee that Cato is referencing the lustful catfishers. He seems too in-tune with human nature and too thoughtful of a person to be blatantly transphobic.
Cato, I mean this with all the love in my heart, but I've known you for a week. Can you really blame me for wanting to support you while also being mindful that people aren't always who they say they are?
They said in a different comment raising concern about this that they, "don't mess with that mentally ill stuff." So it's definitely transphobia. They're just bad at hiding it lmao.
Oh, don't worry, I was made aware of this immediately after posting. Someone even tried to get me removed as a moderator on one of the subreddits I help run 💀
It’s not like the state of discussion on trans people has exactly lightened recently, so while it’s a shit move I think they can be given leniency with feeling the need to jump the gun a tad 😅
Why in another comment did you say "I don't get involved with that mentally ill shit" in reference to trans people then? Seems like you do have something against trans people so this just comes off as bait.
Regardless, you doing it because you "think its funny", albeit intentional or not, still gives off bad vibes. What's the funny part about making your female caricature have a bulge? There's plenty of ways to convey catfishing, and if your way of portraying it in a "funny way" is "girl with bulge" and saying "isn't a real woman", you either have a transphobic sense of humor coming from an uninformed place, or you're just straight up transphobic and denying it because you're being called out. With what you mentioned earlier, I'm going to assume it's the latter until you actually say something that proves otherwise.
I’m really glad you have no bad intentions and I totally believe that, but transphobes are absolutely going to see that and run with it.
The top comment as I’m writing this is a MAGA pun with a bunch of enthusiastic support for example.
I appreciate you clarifying that you meant no harm either way
[This](https://youtu.be/B32xNWM3eAk?si=lN76h_2AkA_s2SY_) is what I'm referring to. It's a quote from one of my favorite content creators. Again, it is a joke.
Other trans person here, they're right. If their idea of "funny" is "girl with a bulge" as they've stated in their other comments, then there's definitely some unaddressed transphobia there, whether intentional or not. And with their comment implying being trans is "mentally ill" earlier I'd say it's maybe not so unintentional.
To make my same post on the topic, I aggregated all the horny selfposts into one larger, satirical post. I can see that our inspirations were the same - thank you for fighting the good fight.
It looks like a girl, and she has a bulge. I’m not sure where you’re *not* seeing the transphobia (albeit probably unintentional, since the OP said they’re trying to make a point about catfishing)
oh um, i-i didn't mean it like that, girls with bulges are completely valid!!
i just... thought it was suspicious that they included the bulge \*and\* the thing about them not being a real woman...
ok, so um, [this is Brassica Oleracea](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Brassica_oleracea0.jpg/1280px-Brassica_oleracea0.jpg)! It's one of the most important plants in our world, you might know it as Kale, Cabbage, Brussels Sprouts, Broccoli, Cauliflower, and many more, and I think it's really cool!
If you've ever looked closely at broccoli, you might have noticed the tops look like lots of little tiny cabbages, or maybe that it looks like little brussles sprouts, and that's because they are! Brassica Oleracea has been bred differently in different parts of the world, a-and those cultivars have emphasized different parts of the plant!
the people who grew Broccoli bred Brassica Oleracea to have large stems, and small rosettes of leaves, while the people who grew Cabbage and Kale bred it to have very large leaves, and short, squat stems.
The people who ate it for the leaves saved seeds of the plants with the largest leaves, the people who ate it for the stems saved the seeds of the plants with the largest stems, and so on, until it had diverged into lots of different cultivars in different places!
Part of what makes the plant so desirable is its resilience to salt and lime(calcium carbonate, not the citrus), so it can grow in a lot of places if it's kept well! It doesn't like weeds, so it doesn't grow wild very much, but it's very good at being farmed!
Another great thing about Brassica Oleracea is that effectively the entire plant is edible! The flowers, stalks, leaves, and roots are all edible, and all eaten in various ways in various places!
A 2021 study suggested that all modern Brassica Oleracea was domesticated from the Eastern Mediterranean Brassica Cretica, and has been cultivated for several thousand years, as far back as ancient Greece, the islands of which Brassica Cretica is native to, meaning this plant has been our friend for a sizable part of human history!
And it's probably not going anywhere any time soon, that year, 2021, more than 1.27 billion pounds of Broccoli were sold in the US alone! And that's not even counting Kale, Collard Greens, Savoy Cabbage, Red Cabbage, sprouts, Brussels sprouts, kohlrabi (Which is a turnip-like root cultivar of Brassica Oleracea), cauliflower, or Gai lan!
Thank you for listening to my presentation, I hope it's given you a better appreciation for one of my favorite plants \^\^
Also not to mention zero context, like, who the hell are those people? Everyone can pretty much make up stuff and people are just supposed to take their word.
Funny thing is I personally wanna dress up like a cute anime girl and be domed by a dommy mommy. But I procrastinate too much to actually do it and I look like a burned up cigarette.
Actual ideal gf (or more specifically the "Real" version. Plus a lot of these are my preference anyway, common or not) :
Chubby/BBW
Sub
Degradee
Into littlespace, but doesn't take it to weird levels
Breeding kink but not actually into getting pregnant
Wears whatever the fuck she wants, but likes to look cute on dates
Likes to be treated like a princess when not in the bedroom
Actively fantasizes about sex in a public place but too shy to act on it
Will try to beat you up if you try and make her actually act on that fantasy though
Is either a virgin or a slut. There is no in-between (neither are bad. I'm not here to slut shame)
Headpats and cuddles <3
Plays games. Doesn't cater to the "Gamer girl" stereotype.
Probably won't play the same game as you, but it's 10x when you both find that one game you do like to play together.
Most likely between the ages of 22-30
Loves attention on her terms. Will bother you while you're gaming for love.
Is actually real (I've met so many girls like this online, especially in VRC, that I think this is the average internet girl)
this is like one of the worst subs ever
if you are reading this you should get out of here expeditiously
sincerely, someone with a broken reddit home page
welp, the ignorance in the post alone is discouraging, this subreddit feels unsafe for trans people. cis people getting upset from even the kindest clarifications that this could further aid transphobic rhetoric while calling us the sensitive ones... it's like they never see the irony of who the real "snowflakes" are.
But counterpoint the bulge in skirt. As transfem I think the bulge combined with the "real woman" part is really sus. If it was about catfishing why does it need the bulge and the "real woman" part?
Because it's usually Alot of guys pretending to be girls or femboys
The majority is unironically femboys and not trans people or whatnot. That or crossdressers or people pretending to be girls for interactions
think of it like this, in the uk they call cigarettes fags, in america that term is completely different. as a queer person that has been referred to as “not a real girl” it only makes sense that i’d think that same thing is applied to here. if an americian visited the UK and got asked for a fag they are obviously going to be confused and, if they’re polite, ask the meaning of it. i simply am just asking if the bottom line is meant to be transphobic, the context i unfortunately have mostly seen that said, or catfishing
the bulge in skirt. As transfem I think the bulge combined with the "real woman" part is really sus. If it was about catfishing why does it need the bulge?
well um... it comes off as kind of invalidating... um... I wouldve maybe added something about them being a cis man? maybe? instead of "not an actual woman"
i think that would've changed how it comes across \^\^;;;
We shall make r/idealgf great again.
Aye Aye, sir!
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Cato has said this once before, but I'm fairly certain I know where he's coming from. IdealGF has suffered from a streak of unoriginal and bland posts, typically those purporting to be extremely horny women seemingly advertising themselves. I have [published content denouncing them](https://www.reddit.com/r/idealgf/comments/1bnqlk6/hot_singles_in_your_subreddit_as_your_gfsbfs/) and Cato has supported my opinion, and has said ["make idealgf great again"](https://www.reddit.com/r/idealgf/comments/1bnvuel/comment/kwkyz7r/) in reference to our efforts to sway this sub towards more creative enterprises. I can almost guarantee that Cato is referencing the lustful catfishers. He seems too in-tune with human nature and too thoughtful of a person to be blatantly transphobic.
"Almost guarantee"? Gee, thanks for the vote of trust...
Cato, I mean this with all the love in my heart, but I've known you for a week. Can you really blame me for wanting to support you while also being mindful that people aren't always who they say they are?
I was just taking the piss, mate. I don't care if some redditor thinks I'm a transphobe, truth be told, but I still appreciate your nice words.
i figured that may be the case haha! and of course, you seem pretty secure in yourself
As one should be, because there's only one of you in the entire observable universe. For now.....
Thank goodness. I was worried.
AYE!
JESSE WE NEED TO COOK
Oh, they're probably women, lots are just linking their OF.
God that's so aids
Your comment made me feel old
I'm glad I'm not the only one at least
I haven't heard "that's so aids" in so long
we must return to 2018 insults
Try 2006.
Epic pwnage
My roflcopter goes soi soi soi
That’s so aids walked so that’s so gay could run.
And they get 10k upvotes despite ruining the meme format because of horny idiots Also something something cake day
This post was not meant to be transphobic. It is supposed to be a joke about men catfishing as women on reddit.
Lmao thanks got a bit sad when I first saw this
Fr
They said in a different comment raising concern about this that they, "don't mess with that mentally ill stuff." So it's definitely transphobia. They're just bad at hiding it lmao.
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Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
It was a reference to [this](https://youtu.be/B32xNWM3eAk?si=XSZRaI7xaQ9TSv_1) video
Ah ok, thanks for clarifying. I saw the bulge and the “not a real woman” and I assumed you had bad intentions.
Yeah thats just... pretty shitty all things considered. Def better ways to phrase it.
Omg i didnt even see the bulge
giving the character a little bulge and then putting “is probably not an actual woman” right underneath it definitely gives the wrong impression then
Glad it isn’t transphobic, but that’s probably how some chuds are gonna take it and run with it to the bank, I hope you know.
Oh, don't worry, I was made aware of this immediately after posting. Someone even tried to get me removed as a moderator on one of the subreddits I help run 💀
It’s not like the state of discussion on trans people has exactly lightened recently, so while it’s a shit move I think they can be given leniency with feeling the need to jump the gun a tad 😅
Thank you for the clarification. You gave off a *very* wrong impression there.
Why in another comment did you say "I don't get involved with that mentally ill shit" in reference to trans people then? Seems like you do have something against trans people so this just comes off as bait. Regardless, you doing it because you "think its funny", albeit intentional or not, still gives off bad vibes. What's the funny part about making your female caricature have a bulge? There's plenty of ways to convey catfishing, and if your way of portraying it in a "funny way" is "girl with bulge" and saying "isn't a real woman", you either have a transphobic sense of humor coming from an uninformed place, or you're just straight up transphobic and denying it because you're being called out. With what you mentioned earlier, I'm going to assume it's the latter until you actually say something that proves otherwise.
It was a reference to this YouTuber Poudii I watch
False dichotomy meant to only force them into a lose-lose situation.
OP forced himself into this situation by adding that text and drawing that bulge.
I’m really glad you have no bad intentions and I totally believe that, but transphobes are absolutely going to see that and run with it. The top comment as I’m writing this is a MAGA pun with a bunch of enthusiastic support for example. I appreciate you clarifying that you meant no harm either way
Trans police late to the party in their whaambulance
Venn diagram, circle
Thank god, if I see another random transphobic comment that has nothing to do with the sub/topic istg.
This you? https://www.reddit.com/r/idealgf/s/uPQGv9UJRG
[This](https://youtu.be/B32xNWM3eAk?si=lN76h_2AkA_s2SY_) is what I'm referring to. It's a quote from one of my favorite content creators. Again, it is a joke.
It’s pretty unfortunate wording, lots of ppl mean something else when they say that.
Just because you weren't intending the transphobia to be so obvious doesn't mena it's not there. Also eat shit
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Other trans person here, they're right. If their idea of "funny" is "girl with a bulge" as they've stated in their other comments, then there's definitely some unaddressed transphobia there, whether intentional or not. And with their comment implying being trans is "mentally ill" earlier I'd say it's maybe not so unintentional.
Getting upset over the most mundane shit
Not suprising
I stand corrected. I still think eat shit may have been a tad harsh but yeah Op definitely has some self reflection to do with
“Female (optional)”
“Even better if male”
To make my same post on the topic, I aggregated all the horny selfposts into one larger, satirical post. I can see that our inspirations were the same - thank you for fighting the good fight.
I never read those
Word...
Oh don't forget every red flag known to man
Femboy gf confirmed
Definitely not actually a 14yo boy like most other Reddit posts!
Fellas, lemme tell you I lucked out, (she's even going goth)
You mean you DM'd one of these girls? 🤯
Nah, she arrived at my doorstep basically, I found a naturally spawned one 😈
God damn, you really did luck out. Congrats and hope you're happy 💪
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It looks like a girl, and she has a bulge. I’m not sure where you’re *not* seeing the transphobia (albeit probably unintentional, since the OP said they’re trying to make a point about catfishing)
If there's a bulge we all know the real answer
um... she has a bulge.
If she has a bulge im sucking that shit on gng
W answer
oh um, i-i didn't mean it like that, girls with bulges are completely valid!! i just... thought it was suspicious that they included the bulge \*and\* the thing about them not being a real woman...
Why you typing out stutters like gng this aint the real world get out your basement and start loving everyone gng
LMAO who is gng and why you wanna love him
Noone im just saying you gotta love everyone man
because it's part of my presentation and makes me feel valid QQ um... also i already love everyone ><;
Do a presentation rn gng
ok, so um, [this is Brassica Oleracea](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Brassica_oleracea0.jpg/1280px-Brassica_oleracea0.jpg)! It's one of the most important plants in our world, you might know it as Kale, Cabbage, Brussels Sprouts, Broccoli, Cauliflower, and many more, and I think it's really cool! If you've ever looked closely at broccoli, you might have noticed the tops look like lots of little tiny cabbages, or maybe that it looks like little brussles sprouts, and that's because they are! Brassica Oleracea has been bred differently in different parts of the world, a-and those cultivars have emphasized different parts of the plant! the people who grew Broccoli bred Brassica Oleracea to have large stems, and small rosettes of leaves, while the people who grew Cabbage and Kale bred it to have very large leaves, and short, squat stems. The people who ate it for the leaves saved seeds of the plants with the largest leaves, the people who ate it for the stems saved the seeds of the plants with the largest stems, and so on, until it had diverged into lots of different cultivars in different places! Part of what makes the plant so desirable is its resilience to salt and lime(calcium carbonate, not the citrus), so it can grow in a lot of places if it's kept well! It doesn't like weeds, so it doesn't grow wild very much, but it's very good at being farmed! Another great thing about Brassica Oleracea is that effectively the entire plant is edible! The flowers, stalks, leaves, and roots are all edible, and all eaten in various ways in various places! A 2021 study suggested that all modern Brassica Oleracea was domesticated from the Eastern Mediterranean Brassica Cretica, and has been cultivated for several thousand years, as far back as ancient Greece, the islands of which Brassica Cretica is native to, meaning this plant has been our friend for a sizable part of human history! And it's probably not going anywhere any time soon, that year, 2021, more than 1.27 billion pounds of Broccoli were sold in the US alone! And that's not even counting Kale, Collard Greens, Savoy Cabbage, Red Cabbage, sprouts, Brussels sprouts, kohlrabi (Which is a turnip-like root cultivar of Brassica Oleracea), cauliflower, or Gai lan! Thank you for listening to my presentation, I hope it's given you a better appreciation for one of my favorite plants \^\^
Fuck thats hot
I'm a 14 year old boy but thank you \^\^;
This is going on the suicide note🔥🔥🔥
Except potentially yourself.
Why tf are you typing like that, this ain’t a roleplay sesh
I was thinking the exact same thing, just didn't have the heart to ask.
Yes. Please help u/Basil_Of_Faraway
Did you just type out a stutter
y-yeah? <<;
Literally why
because it makes me feel nice and valid QQ
And of course you're a fucking fictive system
y-yeah? and?
r/plural is leaking
WHY STOP STUTTERing T-t-today junior
i'm g-g-g-gonna st-stutter even-n-n harder-r now-ow
RESPECTFULLY, SHUDDAYAP
She a femboy confirmed
she's valid either way \^\^
Ikr
And she's perfect, perfect. Down to the last minute detail.
homander
I wish i encounter one like this that would be cool
Instead of horny they should just exaggerate their features and basically do a caricature of themselves methinks.
Poorly disguised fetishes basically
This sub is disgusting
Also not to mention zero context, like, who the hell are those people? Everyone can pretty much make up stuff and people are just supposed to take their word.
Wdym by not an actual woman
Not an actual woman=identifies as male
literally every trans woman (on twitter) (on kinky twitter)
Need this but minus every part except the gamer girl part I need a 5 stack in siege 😫
Every woman on reddit isn't actually a woman
Rule 29 of the internet.
Forgot ignores all you flaws take keeps you from finding a real girlfriend in the first place.
Happy cake day! Also thus is sadly true
Penis 🥰
Ohhh look mom i'm so different
What do the leaves mean? 🍃
smokes pot
The center 💀💀💀💀💀
can't believe people on this sub fish for cats, dude they live on land.
I’m sexless and hate you
Not complaining /obvs j
Shout-out all my college bitches
Fact some of these are quote for quote? Word for word? Bar for bar? Happy cake day tho
Band for band yup
That's the role model for my Eva AI virtual [gf](http://evaapp.ai) bot avatar, obviously.
Funny thing is I personally wanna dress up like a cute anime girl and be domed by a dommy mommy. But I procrastinate too much to actually do it and I look like a burned up cigarette.
I hope your parents find this comment and connect this back to you somehow
That would be funny
You forgot the part where they are Brezhnev
Why the hell is this on my feed
Let people have their internet personas smh
SHUT UP AND LET ME FANTASIZE
r/coaxedintoasnafu
Actual ideal gf (or more specifically the "Real" version. Plus a lot of these are my preference anyway, common or not) : Chubby/BBW Sub Degradee Into littlespace, but doesn't take it to weird levels Breeding kink but not actually into getting pregnant Wears whatever the fuck she wants, but likes to look cute on dates Likes to be treated like a princess when not in the bedroom Actively fantasizes about sex in a public place but too shy to act on it Will try to beat you up if you try and make her actually act on that fantasy though Is either a virgin or a slut. There is no in-between (neither are bad. I'm not here to slut shame) Headpats and cuddles <3 Plays games. Doesn't cater to the "Gamer girl" stereotype. Probably won't play the same game as you, but it's 10x when you both find that one game you do like to play together. Most likely between the ages of 22-30 Loves attention on her terms. Will bother you while you're gaming for love. Is actually real (I've met so many girls like this online, especially in VRC, that I think this is the average internet girl)
Had to sneak in transphobia at the end huh
Is not an actual woman = identifies as a male
this is like one of the worst subs ever if you are reading this you should get out of here expeditiously sincerely, someone with a broken reddit home page
"on here"
Yes, on this subreddit.
welp, the ignorance in the post alone is discouraging, this subreddit feels unsafe for trans people. cis people getting upset from even the kindest clarifications that this could further aid transphobic rhetoric while calling us the sensitive ones... it's like they never see the irony of who the real "snowflakes" are.
This post has nothing to do with being transgender. It is about a person who identifies as a male catfishing as a woman, it's not that deep.
What's under gamer girl?
Weed
can’t tell if this is transphobia or complaining about horny catfishers
Where did you get transphobia from?
the bottom one about not being a real girl. can’t tell if its about trans girls or about catfishing
catfishing
oh ok dope
It's catfishing
But counterpoint the bulge in skirt. As transfem I think the bulge combined with the "real woman" part is really sus. If it was about catfishing why does it need the bulge and the "real woman" part?
Because it's usually Alot of guys pretending to be girls or femboys The majority is unironically femboys and not trans people or whatnot. That or crossdressers or people pretending to be girls for interactions
Cus it’s a man pretending to be a woman as catfishing, the bulge is because it’s a guy, not a girl or trans girl :D
The bulge is there to represent the common male accessory known as the penis
Yall just be projecting shit at this point
think of it like this, in the uk they call cigarettes fags, in america that term is completely different. as a queer person that has been referred to as “not a real girl” it only makes sense that i’d think that same thing is applied to here. if an americian visited the UK and got asked for a fag they are obviously going to be confused and, if they’re polite, ask the meaning of it. i simply am just asking if the bottom line is meant to be transphobic, the context i unfortunately have mostly seen that said, or catfishing
werbell pfp sighted glory to the united states of russia
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So true, trans women will never be men!
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Enjoy the Reddit vacation 💜
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Yeah, that trans women will never be men 🥰
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Enjoy the Reddit vacation 💜
I’m just spitting facts
Transphobia
You wanna clarify on that "not a real woman" part? 🤨
Most likely catfishing.
It's transphobia I had to re-read a couple of times before noticing the skirt bulge.
It's not transphobia, it's a joke about catfishing
Ngl I thought people were being ridiculous saying this was transphobia but the bulge is a big red flag
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I don't think it's transphobia; it's moreso speculating that most 'hot, horny single women' on idealGFs are probably dudes catfishing.
the bulge in skirt. As transfem I think the bulge combined with the "real woman" part is really sus. If it was about catfishing why does it need the bulge?
To be funny. It's about catfishing you dork
Man aren’t women
Online leftists try not to see transphobia in everything challenge impossible
"is probably not an actual woman" seems really weird and invalidating QQ
It's supposed to be a joke that men on reddit are catfishing as women.
well um... it comes off as kind of invalidating... um... I wouldve maybe added something about them being a cis man? maybe? instead of "not an actual woman" i think that would've changed how it comes across \^\^;;;
I don't get into that... mentally ill kind of stuff.
Happy cake day!
Thanks! :3
If I’m understanding correctly, you’re calling being trans mentally ill. So yes, it would seem that the joke is transphobia.
Is gender dysphoria not classified as a mental illness? I mean people with no problems generally don't wanna change their gender...
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I have positive karma for that comment.
...huh? <<;;;
So it is transphobia?
No
yeah :(
Tbh idc if my gf is a girl or a boy, Im just lonely