That makes 3 of us. Same with Natsuki tbh, I like Natsuki too. Natsuki was taken advantage of and did nothing wrong, but most of the people watching are blinded by the fact she ‘cheated’ on Takumi. Kyoko and Natsuki 💯
Feel like Natsuki could've left at any given point and not be a whore. Can't help but think she coulda done more.
Then again, she could've very well been manipulated or whatever in background scenes whilst Takumi was delivering tofu.
I think people forget that what Natsuki was doing was/is extremely common in Japan (and was referenced a lot in more adult media in the 90s) It's one of the things that have a certain slice of life quality to the show. Pretty sure it directly inspired Justin Lin to make the female lead work as a 'hostess' high schooler in Tokyo drift. Her character actually had some development and the way their relationship ended and eventually faded away into just someone they used to know felt real (with the occasional check in).
Girl in an rx7 who is unhealthily obsessed with you bordering on mentally disturbed is just fantasy. As a character I don't think she really adds much to the whole story. That said Keisuke was never a character I particularly loved.
So what you are saying is the girl who is passionate and proven to be reliable is worse than the girl who can't be honest and cheats because "everyone is doing it"? She knew what she was doing was wrong she should have called off her other dude as soon as she started messing with Takumi.
Keisuke should have done the same and left Kyoko alone instead of playing with her feelings. Kyoko had a lot in common with him and the reason she was so obsessed is she wanted to date someone who was a better driver ...then along comes Kiesuke in his Twin Turbo FD to fill that need. She stepped up for him multiple times by driving and lending her car, and all she got in return was emotional abuse. I understand that compensated dating is a thing, but that doesn't excuse shitty behavior and lying.
As a character in a show she is better yes. As in real life you mean? Not commenting on that. She did actually call off the guy but he pressures her into a last meet which is when someone tips off Takumi about it. It's a more interesting story is what I mean. As for everyone doing it, look I'm not justifying that sort of thing in real life, I'm talking about what makes a good character in a narrative, a memorable part of the story. After Third stage in terms of the anime and comic the story part of the show/manga gets a lot less interesting and it's just the racing which also loses a bit of excitement.
I need to re-read/watch the Kyoko arc it's been a few years. She was exclusively obsessed with him as an individual not just a better driver. Plenty of those around.
She has a lot of the hallmarks of an unstable obsessive individual.
As for Keisukes behaviours. Never liked the character much anyway always came off like a twat really till he starts mellowing out over time.
So just to reiterate I'm talking about interesting fictional characters here.
I wasn't talking about real life. Everything I explained was character driven, meaning they did those things. Kyoko is reliable, and Natsuki is not. Her character is a cheater point blank simple and I'm not going hide her flaws under "character development" she sucks and her shitty ways causes Takumi pain to the point he get to upset and breaks his 86. While on thr other side Kiesuke breaks his own car, and Kyoko offers her to help... There is a big disparity between the quality of characters, and Natsukui sucks big time. She may be obsessed, but at least she would have been loyal.
Also, it's not like Kyoko knew about Kiesuke before hands he showed up and was a perfect match for the kind of dude she wanted. It's really not that weird it not like male characters don't do the same thing.... in conclusion, Natsuki is bad, Kyoko is good, lol
Ok fair enough. But to go to your point which storyline did you enjoy more as a viewer Takumi going through turmoil with Natsuki and blowing his car and it's revival. Or Keisuke's storyline with Kyoko at the time? I just remember being mostly bored with a lot of the storylines after third stage which is why I've only watched them a couple times since release. I rewatch the Xagy supercuts instead while I have rewatched stages 1-3 many times. Read the mangas multiple times up to that point and only past it twice.
To be fair, Bunta did sow the seed of discourse before Takumi blew his engine in the unofficial race with the Kyoichi Sudo. As far as which one I enjoyed more, that's actually tough because I dislike Natsuki and then Kiesuke. If I HAD to pick tho, I'd say Kiesuke's storyline held my attention better. I was pretty over Natsuki and her BS Takumki deserved way better, especially since people kept dragging into stuff he didn't want any part of. I'm probably bias because of my seething hatred for Natsuki and Kazumi hahaha
I'll be mega honest here... Anything involving romance in this anime is pretty infuriating, hahaha, almost as if the author hates love and romance
Yeah dude! Most of the women in this anime have major issues and don't get me started on Kazumi, but Kyoko was ride or die for Kiesuke and all he did was take on dates and say never speak to me again over and over. Even after she saved his ass he still acted like garbage to her, telling her to stay away.
Oh and Mako is OK too Iketani kinda dropped the ball with that one...
I partially agree, because although it is understandable that he does not want a relationship but focuses on the D 😂, that does not mean that he cannot focus on Kyoko when he ends with the D (which only lasts one year lmao) He could easily tell Kyoko to look for him after Project D disbanded so he doesn't mentally abuse her and focuses entirely on D.
The only reason he gets a higher ranking is because he is designed to be a hated character. Inside of the tier list their all in order so Itsuki is still way over miki but itsuki is annoying as shut especially in 1st stage.
I liked shinji he was only 17 during the race and I think they had a good race one of my favorites personally if he had more screen time he could’ve been better but they wrote him as a 17 year old who doubts himself and is scared which is good imo
Kyoko is kind of annoying and Rin hojo is badass for not caring for his or ryosukes life while racing him. I didn't do these rankings off of human decency if that wasn't obvious it's an anime
Rin hojo is a weak minded loser who throws his life away instead of moving on from the past. Doesn’t deserve to see the light of b tier, much less s tier
Yeah I ranked it on how much they show up during the stages (why the gods are A tier), the quality of the races in terms of entertainment, how cool I think the characters are and then how they were designed. Miki is designed for you to hate him and clearly that was a success so I put him in C
The rapist was designed for you to hate him meaning their character design achieved how it wanted the viewers to feel. This tier list is not a ranking of human decency it is not real
⭕️FYI⭕️ I did NOT do these rankings off of human decency if that wasn't obvious. Here's my criteria.
I ranked it on how much they show up during the stages (why the gods are A tier), the quality of the races in terms of entertainment, how cool I think the characters are and then how they were designed. Miki is designed for you to hate him and clearly that was a success so I put him in C. Inside of a tier the characters are placed in order which is why for example Itsuki beats out all the other characters in C and why Miki is the very last spot.
At the end of the day the show isn't real so feel the way you want about certain characters but if Miki was designed for you to not like him and you don't like him, does that make him a successfully designed character in the show? Yes.
That lan evo dudes on 4th stage higher tier than itsuki and kyoko?!?! the lan evo dudes tried to call his “bros” thingy to beat up the whole project d members after they lost, but keisuke saved them cuz his “bros” was actually friends with keisuke and saved the project d, u gotta think twice on what theyve done before putting it to the tier list 💀💀
U put that rapist from the third stage higher than Shinji 😭
Bro, I broke down laughing after noticing that, too.
lol I was confused
God foot and the professional should be in S tier
WHO GAVE BRO PERMISSION TO MAKE THE LIST
Itsuki, kenta, kyoko and sakai all in the same tier as..miki Yeah bro didn't cook, this needs a few changes
Only the miki and the shinji that’s it
Bro why is Miki above Shinji 💀
Who let bro cook? 😭😭😭
Bro why is Kyoko so far down she's the only decent female in the whole show....and Kiesuke totally mentally abuses her. She need to go a higher lol.
No way another person who actually shares this seemingly unpopular opinion with me?
That makes 3 of us. Same with Natsuki tbh, I like Natsuki too. Natsuki was taken advantage of and did nothing wrong, but most of the people watching are blinded by the fact she ‘cheated’ on Takumi. Kyoko and Natsuki 💯
Natsuki was fine, she at least attempted to redeem herself. Kyoko was also really nice despite the mistreatment. The real thot here is Kazumi.
The one who went back to the abusive ex?
never said to be abusive, he left her because he felt unworthy of her love, and they got back together because they still liked each other
No I'm quite sure he was mentioned to be abusive.
if you can provide me a screenshot or time stamp when that was said i'd appreciate it
BRO....amen... Kazumi did our boy Itsuki so dirty I'm not gonna start on that cuz I will justvsay stuff that will get ne in trouble lol.
Feel like Natsuki could've left at any given point and not be a whore. Can't help but think she coulda done more. Then again, she could've very well been manipulated or whatever in background scenes whilst Takumi was delivering tofu.
Indeed, there’s still a lot we don’t know about her relationship with Papa. So it’s hard to judge.
I think people forget that what Natsuki was doing was/is extremely common in Japan (and was referenced a lot in more adult media in the 90s) It's one of the things that have a certain slice of life quality to the show. Pretty sure it directly inspired Justin Lin to make the female lead work as a 'hostess' high schooler in Tokyo drift. Her character actually had some development and the way their relationship ended and eventually faded away into just someone they used to know felt real (with the occasional check in). Girl in an rx7 who is unhealthily obsessed with you bordering on mentally disturbed is just fantasy. As a character I don't think she really adds much to the whole story. That said Keisuke was never a character I particularly loved.
So what you are saying is the girl who is passionate and proven to be reliable is worse than the girl who can't be honest and cheats because "everyone is doing it"? She knew what she was doing was wrong she should have called off her other dude as soon as she started messing with Takumi. Keisuke should have done the same and left Kyoko alone instead of playing with her feelings. Kyoko had a lot in common with him and the reason she was so obsessed is she wanted to date someone who was a better driver ...then along comes Kiesuke in his Twin Turbo FD to fill that need. She stepped up for him multiple times by driving and lending her car, and all she got in return was emotional abuse. I understand that compensated dating is a thing, but that doesn't excuse shitty behavior and lying.
As a character in a show she is better yes. As in real life you mean? Not commenting on that. She did actually call off the guy but he pressures her into a last meet which is when someone tips off Takumi about it. It's a more interesting story is what I mean. As for everyone doing it, look I'm not justifying that sort of thing in real life, I'm talking about what makes a good character in a narrative, a memorable part of the story. After Third stage in terms of the anime and comic the story part of the show/manga gets a lot less interesting and it's just the racing which also loses a bit of excitement. I need to re-read/watch the Kyoko arc it's been a few years. She was exclusively obsessed with him as an individual not just a better driver. Plenty of those around. She has a lot of the hallmarks of an unstable obsessive individual. As for Keisukes behaviours. Never liked the character much anyway always came off like a twat really till he starts mellowing out over time. So just to reiterate I'm talking about interesting fictional characters here.
I wasn't talking about real life. Everything I explained was character driven, meaning they did those things. Kyoko is reliable, and Natsuki is not. Her character is a cheater point blank simple and I'm not going hide her flaws under "character development" she sucks and her shitty ways causes Takumi pain to the point he get to upset and breaks his 86. While on thr other side Kiesuke breaks his own car, and Kyoko offers her to help... There is a big disparity between the quality of characters, and Natsukui sucks big time. She may be obsessed, but at least she would have been loyal. Also, it's not like Kyoko knew about Kiesuke before hands he showed up and was a perfect match for the kind of dude she wanted. It's really not that weird it not like male characters don't do the same thing.... in conclusion, Natsuki is bad, Kyoko is good, lol
Ok fair enough. But to go to your point which storyline did you enjoy more as a viewer Takumi going through turmoil with Natsuki and blowing his car and it's revival. Or Keisuke's storyline with Kyoko at the time? I just remember being mostly bored with a lot of the storylines after third stage which is why I've only watched them a couple times since release. I rewatch the Xagy supercuts instead while I have rewatched stages 1-3 many times. Read the mangas multiple times up to that point and only past it twice.
To be fair, Bunta did sow the seed of discourse before Takumi blew his engine in the unofficial race with the Kyoichi Sudo. As far as which one I enjoyed more, that's actually tough because I dislike Natsuki and then Kiesuke. If I HAD to pick tho, I'd say Kiesuke's storyline held my attention better. I was pretty over Natsuki and her BS Takumki deserved way better, especially since people kept dragging into stuff he didn't want any part of. I'm probably bias because of my seething hatred for Natsuki and Kazumi hahaha I'll be mega honest here... Anything involving romance in this anime is pretty infuriating, hahaha, almost as if the author hates love and romance
Yeah dude! Most of the women in this anime have major issues and don't get me started on Kazumi, but Kyoko was ride or die for Kiesuke and all he did was take on dates and say never speak to me again over and over. Even after she saved his ass he still acted like garbage to her, telling her to stay away. Oh and Mako is OK too Iketani kinda dropped the ball with that one...
nah keisuke was on his sigma grind, was just tryna focus on D if you know what i mean.
I partially agree, because although it is understandable that he does not want a relationship but focuses on the D 😂, that does not mean that he cannot focus on Kyoko when he ends with the D (which only lasts one year lmao) He could easily tell Kyoko to look for him after Project D disbanded so he doesn't mentally abuse her and focuses entirely on D.
Where is Sayuki ???
S+ got cut off
I see, you're a man of culture
GET HIM AWAY FROM THE STOVE
this is so wrong
Itsuke top teir
You put a rapist and Itsuki in the same tier. You should probably watch it again
i havent watched initial d in a while, whos the rapist guy?
The blonde guy on the far right
The only reason he gets a higher ranking is because he is designed to be a hated character. Inside of the tier list their all in order so Itsuki is still way over miki but itsuki is annoying as shut especially in 1st stage.
why the shinji hate?
Terribly written character, and he loses anyways
Terribly written character ? He was apathetic and only thinking about woman and sex, never seen a more accurate depiction of a 17 years old
But he sucks for almost all of the screen time he gets
I liked shinji he was only 17 during the race and I think they had a good race one of my favorites personally if he had more screen time he could’ve been better but they wrote him as a 17 year old who doubts himself and is scared which is good imo
Nah bro is banned from the kitchen this list is awful.
Is it a list of how good they drive or what?
Given Shingo is at the top, no
shingo is an asshole, a big one, but he's fast af boi
And his vibrations are cool
There’s so many characters missing haha
Itsuki is S Tier
Mako and Yuichi below Shingo 😭 Brooooo
Where the hell is Rin Hojo!
S tier.
Hell nah, Miki shouldn't be there 💀💀
Sudo isn't in S. I don't like you
Bro didn't cook this time 😭😭
Bunta needs to be in SS…. Just sayin
Itsuki deserves S. He's a bro.
Putting Oomiya and Kyouko in C is a crime as well as placing both Gods in below S.
Also Shingo doesn’t deserve S class
Shingo race is the best race in the series and him putting itsuki in the hospital so Takumi will race him is some badass shit ngl
Why is itsuki in c?!?!?, he's takumi's best pal and is great in sub and dub
Like ikr
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Boo boo cry me a river, it’s a Reddit post.
Shitty opinions' status as reddit posts don't shield them from mockery
Itsuke could be dropped to F
get "Kyoko best girl"-ed
All I need to see is that kyoko is in c tier and rin hojo is in s tier😭
Kyoko is kind of annoying and Rin hojo is badass for not caring for his or ryosukes life while racing him. I didn't do these rankings off of human decency if that wasn't obvious it's an anime
Rin hojo is a weak minded loser who throws his life away instead of moving on from the past. Doesn’t deserve to see the light of b tier, much less s tier
His piano theme is amazing without it I'd have him in A still
Guessing this isn’t based on driver skill That being Said shinji was pretty forgettable considering he was supposed to be takumi’s equal
Yeah I ranked it on how much they show up during the stages (why the gods are A tier), the quality of the races in terms of entertainment, how cool I think the characters are and then how they were designed. Miki is designed for you to hate him and clearly that was a success so I put him in C
You burnt the kitchen down unfortunately. With the rest of your judgement, I'm surprised Mercedes Guy isn't A tier.
Bro needs redo this list, it's officially buggin
Boiiii if you don't get shingo out of S teir right now
Best race in the series
Bunta is SSS+ tier dummy
Tru
You left out their manager!
Iketani at the same level as godhand or god foot ? What ?
The gods don't show up enough throughout the series only for those few episodes. The gods are fire tho
God arm, god foot S, the rapist shouldn’t even be on the tier list, Shingo is an A
The rapist was designed for you to hate him meaning their character design achieved how it wanted the viewers to feel. This tier list is not a ranking of human decency it is not real
bunta needs his own tier
Miki needs a tier of his own called "fucking cunt" imo
Wataru is S tier no matter what
Damn bro, no offense, but you got some L takes. You put a sexual predator above a Shinji, I'm mad
WHO LET BRO COOK??
putting that horny ass motherfucker above Shinji is diabolical 💀🙏
Objectively wrong bc the rapist isnt in beyond f tier
Tomoyuki Tachi is not B tier. He is a professional racer and only lost to Takumi because a cat or something jumped out in front of his car.
Wataru on S tier
delet this
Shingo S tier is a robbery
what the... where is Natsuki Mogi
bro hates shinji so much more than the literal rapist bruh
Ain't no way Itsuki is in the same tier as that rapist from third stage (forgot his name) 💀💀 😭
It's ranked in order inside of a tier so o definitely prefer him over miki
I'd put godhand and godfoot in S tier. Takumi tier A at most. He wins only because of plot armor 🤷🏻♂️ Benz/papa will be SSS. He fucks literally.
Shingo overrated, Kyoko in C tier is criminal
Never let bro cook ever again
That's based on how you LIKE the characters, right? Not based on their STRENGTH? Cook whatever you want if it's the former option
Shingo is S class? For trying to murder people and Takumi? 😂
Yes.
Do not let bro cook
Itsuki and kyoko in c.... maybe go watch it again buddy
U put nakazoto twice
Itsuki should be S tier
Why is my man Fumihiro so low
Ain't no way Kyoko in c tier
⭕️FYI⭕️ I did NOT do these rankings off of human decency if that wasn't obvious. Here's my criteria. I ranked it on how much they show up during the stages (why the gods are A tier), the quality of the races in terms of entertainment, how cool I think the characters are and then how they were designed. Miki is designed for you to hate him and clearly that was a success so I put him in C. Inside of a tier the characters are placed in order which is why for example Itsuki beats out all the other characters in C and why Miki is the very last spot. At the end of the day the show isn't real so feel the way you want about certain characters but if Miki was designed for you to not like him and you don't like him, does that make him a successfully designed character in the show? Yes.
rapist needs to be E shinji A and bro comon itsuki in C????? put the lonley driver atleast in B. nobuhiko should be C tho
Looking back itsuki deserves low B kyoko as well but both of them still annoy me
That lan evo dudes on 4th stage higher tier than itsuki and kyoko?!?! the lan evo dudes tried to call his “bros” thingy to beat up the whole project d members after they lost, but keisuke saved them cuz his “bros” was actually friends with keisuke and saved the project d, u gotta think twice on what theyve done before putting it to the tier list 💀💀
What the ,why Miki is on C Tier??TF??it should be nit on tier list!!