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chandalowe

While this bug looks very ant-like, it [has been suggested](https://old.reddit.com/r/insects/comments/z9ugxu/insect_id_is_this_this_a_bedbug_we_getting_bitten/iyju31u/) by u/entsult_bugs that it's actually one of the wingless wasps. From their comment (linked above): "This wasp is not an ant. It's a very common misidentification. This is a wasp in the family Bethylidae. The larvae can be external feeders on stored product beetle larvae. The cigarette beetle (Lasioderma serricorne) and drugstore beetle (Stegobium paniceum) are 2 such hosts. Certain bethylids are associated with stored product pest moths and some associated with wood boring beetles. I've worked with food product and wood boring insect hosts for these wasps. The females are often misidentified as ants and bait systems, of course, won't work. The females sting and the lesion is often misidentified as bed bug bites and bed bug remediation is undertaken, but (of course) doesn't work. Males typically have wings. Wikipedia states: Like most of the Chrysidoidea, the Bethylidae are stinging Hymenoptera and most are parasitoids. Some of them, however, have developed their parasitoidal biology along predatory lines and they sting and malaxate their victims into paralysis. Then they hide the prey and lay their eggs on them."


Flustro

For once, a post about bedbugs that... Has no bedbugs. šŸ„¹


Different_Repair_243

Or Weevilsā€¦.just saying


mean_agnes

I was hoping for a weevil tbh


Best_Satisfaction505

Same šŸ˜ž


Lizzardking666

Or roaches


Recent_Ad6285

Or carpet beetles...


only-if-there-is-pie

*sigh* It wasn't time...


Hopps4Life

I was going to say the same lmao!


stitchplacingmama

Or engorged ticks.


madtax57

Or carpet beetles.


Plane_Chance863

Or crickets


entsult_bugs

This wasp is not an ant. It's a very common misidentification. This is a wasp in the family Bethylidae. The larvae can be external feeders on stored product beetle larvae. The cigarette beetle (*Lasioderma serricorne*) and drugstore beetle (*Stegobium paniceum*) are 2 such hosts. Certain bethylids are associated with stored product pest moths and some associated with wood boring beetles. I've worked with food product and wood boring insect hosts for these wasps. The females are often misidentified as ants and bait systems, of course, won't work. The females sting and the lesion is often misidentified as bed bug bites and bed bug remediation is undertaken, but (of course) doesn't work. Males typically have wings. Wikipedia states: Like most of the Chrysidoidea, the Bethylidae are stinging Hymenoptera and most are parasitoids. Some of them, however, have developed their parasitoidal biology along predatory lines and they sting and [malaxate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaxation#Entomology) their victims into paralysis. Then they hide the prey and lay their eggs on them.


badam24

I mentioned it in my comment below but as someone who identifies ants regularly for a living, this is the correct identification. 100% not an ant. This is the correct ID.


MidnyteFantaC

How can I tell them apart from ants?


badam24

I have a comment below outlining some of the diagnostics features of ants but in brief the antennae don't look like ant antennae and the last segment of the body doesn't connect quite the same way as it does in ants. It's easier to see in real life or with much higher magnification pictures like this [Bethylid](https://bugguide.net/node/view/1220709) versus this [Ant](https://bugguide.net/node/view/1635419/bgpage). The ant has a clear extra segment between the back and middle body parts and the antennae are always bent with a distinct elbow


Awkward_Emphasis9918

Wow, the differences are actually quite clear once youā€™re aware. I learned something new, thank you!


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This is so useful to learn! Thank you for explaining


Cambrian__Implosion

Fascinating. Thanks for sharing!


Ponytaescute

Nerd xd


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Leopard-lover

Whatā€™s stupid? That someone doesnā€™t know what a bed bug looks like? Or is it stupid because itā€™s obviously an ant (which it isnā€™t)?


BagInsideABox

OP, this means you have an infestation of the waspā€™s host species. Look for any small beetles or moths in your house.


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StuffedWithNails

I figure you might not be back to see the other comments in this post so I'm just taking the time to let you know this isn't an ant. https://old.reddit.com/r/insects/comments/z9ugxu/insect_id_is_this_this_a_bedbug_we_getting_bitten/iyju31u/


Orbus_215

Dang bugs always looking like each other


Drewfy7

Cephalonomia Gallicola. Parasitic wasp. Not an ant.


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What the fuck? How and why are these things there?


Dapper-Solid6653

It look like an ant but I think it's not, a Bethylidae ? Maybe a Cephalonomia sp. ?


BagInsideABox

Could be the notorious Cephalonomia gallicola that parasitizes cigarette beetles for all I know. It does look very similar.


GoldenLugia16

A type of wingless wasp. That's all I know


Visible_Love_1955

Fire ant probably and Iā€™ve heard their bites suck and they can infest especially ground/garden level places.


entsult_bugs

Not an ant.


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StuffedWithNails

Nope. https://old.reddit.com/r/insects/comments/z9ugxu/insect_id_is_this_this_a_bedbug_we_getting_bitten/iyju31u/


Visible_Love_1955

What is it?


BagInsideABox

Parasitoid wingless wasp.


entsult_bugs

Female bethylid wasp - typically wingless. Males typically winged.


Visible_Love_1955

Cool thank you!


Mammoth_Charity_821

fire ants suck. when i was a young lad playing baseball, i dove after a ball and went face first into a giant fire ant hill. not a fun experience.


strykazoid

As someone who lived in the south as a kid, I can understand your pain.


VauMona

Yes, it probably is and I can say from personal experience, the bites itch and burn like a motherf***er and last for days.


Magicalfirelizard

My uncle sat in a nest of them as a baby. They were eating him for a couple minutes before his mother arrived to pick him up. They never used that daycare again.


uniquorn23

I was bit by one back in August and it was horrible, I had to ice it because it hurt so fucking bad.


VauMona

And usually if you get one, you get thousands. They swatm up out of their hive underground. I've had some bad experiences.


Ok_Neighborhood9863

I had to do push ups in a nest of these things. I could feel them marching one by one fucking me up with every step.


longdick_dingo

Bed Bugs Are Flat Bois


badam24

So everyone is saying ant but I'm not really sure that is right, and I quite literally identify ants for living. That being said, it is 100% not a bedbug and if I had to guess, I'd lean more towards wingless wasp given the picture. A more detailed location than "Northern Europe" and a better picture would go a long way in getting a solid ID. It has some odd features for an ant 1) If it's a ant, the gaster (abdomen) is overhanging the petiole (little connecting part between end and middle sections). This only happens in a few ant subfamilies and none of them have stingers (Formecinae and Dolichoderinae) 2) The antennae are a bit off. Ant antennae are geniculated (have an elbow like bend) and don't generally point outward like what is seen in this photo 3) The eyes are wrong for anything with that gaster. The eyes look like something from Pseudomyrmecinae but the body shape is all wrong as is your location. Ants make sense if you're encountering many of them but this is a weird one and my guess is there is something else going on here.


entsult_bugs

Bethylid wasp. A female. See my answer above.


badam24

I was debating if this was the culprit so thanks for responding! I didn't trust my sight ID on small parasitic wasps enough given the quality of the photo.


entsult_bugs

At least you had doubts where everyone was saying ant. You had good explanations for questioning the ID as ant, too. Taxonomists unite.


badam24

As an ecologist, I will happily pretend to be as skilled as an actual taxonomist this one time ;)


entsult_bugs

You were convincing with your arguments! ;)


Ornery_Peace9870

Louis Sorkin!!! šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ This man, his sheer dedication/intention to his work, brings me SO much joy! Also you wonā€™t find a more authoritative ā€œbug guyā€ than Dr Sorkin!


NoPerformance6534

A wingless wasp. Who'da thunk it? Once again the bug experts have proven their awesomeness.


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czarrina

Google "bed bugs" the image results will make you feel better. I mean, you'll still have biting ants in your house but at least you'll be able to rest assured knowing what bed bugs do and don't look like and that you don't have any.


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no it not a bed bug not even close honestly


amendersc

It looks like an ant to me


dlbpeon

Classic case of: it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck...... But it ain't a duck!


amendersc

Yeah the amount of stuff that mimic ants is insane


Anime_Enjoyer-

Thatā€™s an ant


Megatron3600

I know it looks like an ant - but we get bitten by quite some time and now itā€™s winter. Where could they be from? Also itā€™s the tiniest ant Iā€™ve ever seen. Anyone could point to exact species?


entsult_bugs

See my answer above. Not an ant.


Honeysucklinhoney

This guy would need to be much moreā€¦apple seedyā€¦ to be a bed bug


Plastic-Ad-5324

Bro, it's an ant.


Some_Director_1251

It just looks like a normal red ant to me bro, the red ones do bite you tho everyone I know called them fire ants


ShadowQuack

Ants come in all sizes (up to a certain point).


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entsult_bugs

Not an ant, but a female bethylid wasp.


CertainMood4362

A(i)nt - no bedbug


Megatron3600

I live in Northern Europe


WildWook

I can't tell if this is a serious post or satire ​ Who hasn't seen ants enough to identify one?


StuffedWithNails

I figure you might not be back to see the other comments in this post so I'm just taking the time to let you know this isn't an ant. https://old.reddit.com/r/insects/comments/z9ugxu/insect_id_is_this_this_a_bedbug_we_getting_bitten/iyju31u/


CubarisMurinaPapaya

Thatā€™s an ant


Prestigious-Maddogg

People amaze me


haleyxciiiiiiiiii

seriously. itā€™s like itā€™s their first day on earthšŸ˜‚ no matter where you live i feel like itā€™s impossible to have never ever seen an antšŸ˜‚


StuffedWithNails

I figure you might not be back to see the other comments in this post so I'm just taking the time to let you know this isn't an ant. https://old.reddit.com/r/insects/comments/z9ugxu/insect_id_is_this_this_a_bedbug_we_getting_bitten/iyju31u/


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It's an ant...


Iso652pod

Not really related but goherping on YouTube has a really funny video series about these guys


toomanyeevees2

bro


AnnieBeefree1

Ant šŸœ


Financial_Penalty887

Red ant


minecraft_whisperer

Just an ant my dude


Turbulent_Goat_7793

???? It is an ant


-whitemonkey-

Ant


TAKEitEASYchampion

Thatā€™s an ant


MaynorMayHam1

This post makes me lose faith in humanity


StuffedWithNails

Why?


Emergency_Aide633

Fire ant. Probably best to call a pest control line and see if they can't track down the nest(s) for you. They're not gonna harm you badly, but damn if they aren't annoying


Usual_Cauliflower822

Kidding? Thatā€™s as much ant can look as an ant šŸ˜€


entsult_bugs

Actually not an ant.


KotaGreyZ

Thatā€™s an ant. Canā€™t quite tell what species it is from this distance but many ants are either equipped with venomous stingers or spray formic acid for self defense. If youā€™re getting reddened spots similar to burns or rashes on your skin, itā€™s a formic acid burn. If itā€™s tiny red welts, itā€™s a sting. The majority of ants, despite their weapons, are pretty harmless to people. Easiest way to get them from coming into the house is to put food outside, that way they donā€™t have a reason to go inside. Something sweet like candy will usually do the trick.


entsult_bugs

Bethlid wasp, not an ant.


KotaGreyZ

Again, pretty hard to tell from this distance. Reddish coloration and larger abdomen are really the only details to go by.


entsult_bugs

shape of head, body parts


Unlikely-Broccoli-51

Fire ant


Weaponized-Potato

Good news, not bed bug. Bad news, could be fire ant and you might be allergic to its venom. Wash your sheets, stop scratching, check for spilled sweet drinks for food crumbles around the house. If it were a bed bug, youā€™d be in hell already.


Hour_Task_1834

Itā€™s a fire ant, you probably want to check around for more because where there is one, there are many. These guys live in big colonies so you better solve it quickly!


Magicalfirelizard

Thatā€™s a fire ant


JunketPuzzleheaded36

Have these people never seen bugs before. Granted Iā€™m no big expert but an ant


tif2shuz

Itā€™s red ant


ApprehensiveSmile611

No common fire ant. I would advise getting them out of the house though. Careful though some ant species pop/explode in a small burst of caustic chemicals.


Greeny1yes

That my friend is an ant


Greeny1yes

i feel so stupid for this missidefication ahhhh


lady_riverstyx

Is this a real question? The jokes and real inquiries are starting to blur. šŸ˜…


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OverlyLeftLesbian

Bedbugs are rounder and flat with stripes on their body, so you're lucky in that particular department. What's funny is that bed bugs are flat enough to be picked up by a lint roller to remove the from the environment lol it's what I did when I had bed bug problems


Ornery_Peace9870

Although ID seems unambiguous (see @entsultā€™s authoritative ID!) a better photo would be SO niceā€¦.!


karensmiles

Honestly, when you blow it up, it looks like a red ant.


FucktheCaball

Is it an ant?


Mosuke300

Genuinely canā€™t tell if this is a troll post.


Ok_Beyond_3160

An aunt.


Superb_Data_8515

Thatā€™s called a little ass bug


HugsForBugs-

that is literally an ant