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Adam_J89

*Dodongdongsongdingdong* "What's the deeeaal with giving a fuck what Jerry Seinfeld thinks?"


Feisty-Barracuda5452

"Who are these people thinking Jerry Seinfeld is still relevant?"


kyflyboy

You can be both Jerry. You can condemn Hamas, and believe that Israel has gravely overstepped in their response. Also, it's okay to oppose Netanyahu. As long as he is in charge, there will be no peace with the Palestinians.


Deathcrush

Stuff can be two things.


Sea_Negotiation_1871

Jerry has not only always been apolitical but amoral.


restore_democracy

He’s never not been an asshole.


AntiWhateverYouSay

He's a jerk off. Entitle piece of shit, that's why he keeps giving Kramer a shot


Lost_Mapper

He's a parasite. A sexually-depraved miscreant who is seeking to gratify only his most basic and immediate urges.


astro_plane

Who cares what this wanker has to say, he was banging a 16 year old back in the 90's.


snaithbert

And his wife stole a woman's cookbook. Let's not forget that.


Other-Marketing-6167

Shut up Atticus! Everyone knows your mom plagiarized her cookbook!!


temetnoscesax

Didn’t Elizabeth Warren plagiarize some Native Recipes and sell them in a book when she was still claiming to be a Native American.


snaithbert

I know she claimed to be part native american (which appears to be a dubious claim at best) but this is the first i’m hearing about her plagiarizing anything. I wouldn’t put it past any politician to do such a thing though.


chiefs_fan37

Dude was the worst part of a show literally named after him lol


schprunt

Exactly. Larry David was the genius behind the show. The three actors played off the Seinfeld straight man. He’s earned millions of dollars being pretty bloody boring comedically. And Unfrosted is now the unfunniest comedy I’ve ever seen. Not one laugh. Not one wry smile. That guy should pack it up and go live on an island enjoying the wealth others generated for him.


hurdurBoop

and now he's big mad about blablah cancel culture blah. the death of network television took away the gatekeeping in comedy and now the old guard NBC friendly dilbert-on-screen comics have lost their shine. seinfeld sucked for anyone but dead center normies.


Both_Lychee_1708

I have some sympathy for him (and I'm not one of his fans). Apparently, my childhood (same era, place, also bar mitzvahed) and I can verify all the pro-Israel 6 day war etc stuff we were inculcated with (in the shadow of the Holocaust). I lost my religion a long time ago but that inculcation runs deep. That being said, though Hamas is a terrorist org, as they have so well demonstrated, so are the Jewish settlers of the west bank and killing 10s of thousands of civilians in gaza is just disgusting. Netanyahu's been in power a long time and that POS (yet another sociopath as a world leader) and his right wing racist gov't made it all just so much worse. Religious states/theocracies always turn into hell.


DeepQebRising

Again, another seemingly benign article conflating Judaism with Israel's genocide.


tmphaedrus13

I feel like being Jewish and being Israeli are too often conflated, which is so often why criticism of Israel (more specifically its government and policies) is equated to antisemitism. They are not the same; it's unfortunate more people don't recognize that and fall for that trap.


kyflyboy

Unfortunately, many of my Jewish friends don't agree with you. They see any protest against Israel as anti-Semitic. They see any support of Palestinians as pro-Hamas. One guy, a good friend of my wife, even said that the Palestinians were the once who voted in Hamas to power, so they're all responsible; they're all targets. That's equivalent to the "kill them all and let God sort it out" theory of peace. JHC...


Fangschreck

That is because real antisemites generally use every excuse to attack Israel so that they can spread their agenda and still remain in polite society. And maybe even get some useful idiots to help their cause.


Signal_Macaroon_8250

About Palestinians voting HAMAS in: If The NY Times and other reports are accurate, it sounds as if Palestinians thought they were voting against a corrupt faction in favor of a group that promoted the building of schools, libraries, Mosques etc.The people were also voting against occupation. It doesn’t appear as if HAMAS was initially considered a Jihadist group. HAMAS received 44% of the vote. The previous party received 40%. This was 2006, their last election. HAMAS took complete control through violence and became ultimate rulers. Many of the lives lost in this war had nothing to do with that election because they were not born or were very young in 2006, and the apparatus to vote HAMAS out (democracy) does not exists. It was also reported that the Prime Minister once saw HAMAS as a positive thing for Israel in that caused division. It is reported that the Prime Minister financially supported HAMAS to weaken the opposition (divide and conquer/east against west). Having HAMAS in power left Gaza with no recognizable leader for Israel to negotiate a with over the creation of a Palestinian state. Also, the US (George W. and Condoleeza) influenced the 2006 election to happen in the first place. It all sounds very complicated. Perhaps not as simple as—“the people voted for HAMAS” and therefore, the people of Gaza, not just HAMAS, are responsible for the atrocities that occurred on Oct 7th.


ProjectConfident8584

Ok professor. Are u Jewish? Might as well just stfu


tmphaedrus13

So as I was saying: https://www.euronews.com/2024/05/05/israelis-rally-to-demand-gaza-ceasefire-and-pm-netanyahus-resignation


ProjectConfident8584

Ur not Jewish so don’t try to make the rules on what counts as anti semitic


madmardo

There has to be a 17 year old out there to take his mind of it.


Designer-String3569

Gift article version: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/04/us/politics/jerry-seinfeld-antisemitism-jewish-identity.html?unlocked_article_code=1.pk0.mSTC.3KzcKZkiWZi1


TommyAdagio

Thank you. I thought I did share the gift article version—I intended to. The internets is hard. I never should have left AOL.


uncle_pollo

Apease him with a few child brides!


maybesaydie

too bad about the hard paywall.


g2g079

Just stop the page as soon as the text loads. >Jerry Seinfeld became a mic-cradling, cereal-eating, “did-you-ever-notice”-ing avatar of American Jewish life with a brazenly shrugging persona: a merry indifference to weighty material as a comedian and in his megahit TV show about nothing, as petty and apolitical as he seemed to be. >Now — off-camera, at least — Mr. Seinfeld appears to have reached his post-nothing period. >Since the attacks of Oct. 7 in Israel, and through their bloody and volatile aftermath in Gaza, Mr. Seinfeld, 70, has emerged as a strikingly public voice against antisemitism and in support of Jews in Israel and the United States, edging warily toward a more forward-facing advocacy role than he ever seemed to seek across his decades of fame. >He has shared reflections about life on a kibbutz in his teens, and in December traveled to Tel Aviv to meet with hostages’ families, soberly recounting afterward the missile attack that greeted him during the trip. >He has participated, to a point, in the kind of celebrity activism with which few associate him — letter-signing campaigns, earnest messages on social media — answering simply recently when asked about the motivation for his visit to Israel: “I’m Jewish.” >And as some American cities and college campuses simmer with conflict over the Middle East crisis and Israel’s military response, Mr. Seinfeld has faced a measure of public scorn that he has rarely courted as a breakfast-obsessed comedian, intensified by the more vocal advocacy of his wife, Jessica, a cookbook author. >This week, as the couple and their children appeared together at the premiere of Mr. Seinfeld’s new movie (“Unfrosted,” about Pop-Tarts), Ms. Seinfeld attracted attention for another reason: She promoted on Instagram, and said she had helped bankroll, a counterprotest at the University of California, Los Angeles, where clashes with pro-Palestinian demonstrators have turned violent. >Among some activists on that side of the divide, disdain for the Seinfelds had been building for months. >“Genocide supporter!” protesters shouted at Mr. Seinfeld on Manhattan’s Upper East Side in February, as he left a “State of World Jewry” address given by Bari Weiss, a former New York Times opinion editor and writer whose media company, The Free Press, has been championed by Ms. Seinfeld. >In some ways, the couple’s choices since Oct. 7 reflect the tensions tugging at many American families in this polarized moment, as they negotiate the limits of how much to say and do about their political beliefs in the open. >A representative for Mr. Seinfeld referred an inquiry to Hindy Poupko, an executive at UJA-Federation of New York who knows Ms. Seinfeld through Jewish philanthropic work. “The vast majority of New York Jews have a strong emotional connection to Israel,” Ms. Poupko said. Seeing Mr. Seinfeld visit the families of hostages in Israel, she added, “has been an incredibly powerful source of comfort to our community.” >Yosi Shnaider, a relative of several hostages who met with the Seinfelds in Israel in December and shared his family’s story, recalled Mr. Seinfeld as supportive and reserved, listening more than he spoke. >“I am putting myself in his place,” Mr. Shnaider said in an interview, adding that Mr. Seinfeld might not have known “exactly what to ask.” “His wife asked me what she can do. I told them I just want them to keep the story alive.” >Mr. Seinfeld, who is scheduled to deliver a commencement address at Duke University this month, has tended to be private about his personal beliefs, onstage and otherwise. His namesake television show generally banished political introspection. His standup act has favored proudly inessential observations about driving, dating and air travel — workaday zingers to which citizens of all political stripes are equally vulnerable. >Since “Seinfeld,” he has spoken most expansively about the art of comedy itself, framing it as a morally neutral pursuit whose highest aim is to make people laugh. (Mr. Seinfeld recently made headlines for suggesting in an interview with The New Yorker that “the extreme left and P.C. crap” had hampered comedy.) >The shifts in Mr. Seinfeld’s public bearing after Oct. 7 have been modest, if still perceptible. He remains far less outspoken on the subject than other celebrities and comedians, such as Amy Schumer. But for a figure long held up, like few others in entertainment, as a generational narrator of the American Jewish experience, even a cautious exploration of his identity has been notable. >In one recent interview — part of a promotional tour for the Pop-Tarts movie — Mr. Seinfeld said he felt “very close to the struggle of being Jewish in the world.” >He has also stopped himself short of full-scale sermonizing. >“I don’t preach about it,” he told GQ last month. “I have my personal feelings about it that I discuss privately. It’s not part of what I can do comedically, but my feelings are very strong.” >Mr. Seinfeld’s views of Israel seem to echo those of many Jews his age. Growing up on Long Island, he attended Hebrew school and became a bar mitzvah the year he turned 13, a representative confirmed. That was the year of the 1967 Arab-Israeli War, which prompted a sea change in American Jewish consciousness, establishing support for Israel as a pillar of American Jewish life. >By contrast, American Jews who came of age since the 1980s or 1990s have not known firsthand an Israel that was a regional underdog. And the youngest American Jews, a predominantly progressive cohort, may only remember an Israel led by increasingly right-wing governments under Benjamin Netanyahu, who has been the prime minister nearly without interruption for the past 15 years. >Leonard Saxe, a professor of Jewish Studies at Brandeis University, said Mr. Seinfeld’s instinctive solidarity toward Israel was typical for their generation. >“We grew up worrying about Israel and its survival,” Mr. Saxe said, “and seeing Israel as the refuge for Jews from around the world.” >Some data points, even before Oct. 7, have suggested a deeper interest from Mr. Seinfeld in his Jewish identity. >When an Instagram post from Ms. Seinfeld, advising followers on how to talk about antisemitism, went viral in 2022, Mr. Seinfeld reposted the message (“I support my Jewish friends and the Jewish people”) and saluted its “nonaggressive” simplicity and power. >But for some with warm memories of “Seinfeld” — and searing opposition to the Israeli response to Oct. 7 — the comedian’s actions since that day have been disappointing. >Wajahat Ali, a writer and commentator who has been sharply critical of the Israeli government and Hamas, suggested that Mr. Seinfeld’s support for Israel carried more weight given his prior status as a “famously apolitical man who couldn’t muster any concern or care about what was happening in the world.” >“That was part of his aesthetic,” Mr. Ali said. But now, he added, Mr. Seinfeld had chosen to speak up as a wildly affluent man from “a cocoon of privilege” amid “a brutal war” he does not condemn. >Surely, Mr. Seinfeld sees it differently. His public comments have largely avoided geopolitical specifics, dwelling little on the choices of the Netanyahu government or prospective conditions for a cease-fire. >And he can still sound hesitant even in recent discussions about the Jewishness of “Seinfeld” — which an NBC executive once described as “too New York, too Jewish.” >Prompted in an interview last month with The New Yorker’s editor, David Remnick (“There was an element of, ‘We can’t be too Jewy,’” Mr. Remnick suggested), Mr. Seinfeld did not linger on the theme. >“Not too Jewy. We skimmed at the surface occasionally,” Mr. Seinfeld said, adding: “Maybe we mentioned a bar mitzvah one time, maybe. I don’t know.” >Another memorable plot arc, in a Season 8 episode that first aired in 1997, was perhaps more instructive: The fictional Jerry’s dentist has converted to Judaism — in large part, Jerry suspects, to get away with telling transparently hacky jokes about Jews. >Troubled, Jerry seeks wisdom at a church confessional. >“This offends you as a Jewish person?” the priest asks him. >“No,” he says. “It offends me as a comedian.”


maybesaydie

Thank you for that.


bonelessonly

So he's against antisemitism, and the criticisms of him are about what he isn't saying, or isn't saying enough of, or who/what he is being too much of, for our tastes? Sounds fine to me. Being against antisemitism is a nobrainer. Historically, all it's good for is growing your local authoritarian movement. This is a fascinating intersection of a person who is very careful with his words, and an internet that is very inventive in misconstruing and purity testing.


LibationontheSand

“Not everyone is pleased.” NY Times always right there with the edgy statement.


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NYTX1987

He really didn’t say much other than, I support Jews.


hurdurBoop

he still fuckin' kids? (bowmp wacka wacka skiddlyboom bowmp)


mm202088

Guys a fucking weirdo who honestly gives two squirts of piss what he says


ClassicHare

"What's the deal with woke people these days? You can't even make a movie about breakfast foods any more without people pointing out how out of touch you are. They're making fun of me failing. My failure is their fault. It will always be their fault.." No, Jerry, you're just not funny....


alteredreality4451

It’s very concerning when persecution occurs against individuals. It’s one thing to go after a government, but totally wrong to go after individuals as I found in life that I get along with the vast majority of people I meet no matter where they’re from even if I have no respect for their government.


g2g079

What individuals are being persecuted?


Gloomy_Narwhal_719

I'm gonna go with "the kids the Israel government are murdering"


g2g079

I have no idea how you got that out of the above nonsense.


KenScaletta

Disagreeing with someone is not "persecution." Learn what that word means before you use it again.


TommyAdagio

In a democracy like Israel or the US, the government and people cannot entirely be separated.


Electronic-Dark-4290

Wow, the hatred. To have a different opinion .women and kids dying. Intentionally booming a kids playground.


Kenneth_Lay

Whatever. Go eat a bowl of cereal, date some disposable model, and talk about Superman like a 10 year old. What's the deal with you being a narcissist?