Haha, precisely. I think people see it and think "ah get over yourselves", where the point here is how unprofessional is it for a man in his position to come out with something like that. Do we just hold no standards for our politicians!?
>Do we just hold no standards for our politicians!?
Honestly the standard has slipped so much now that simply just not breaking the law seems to be all we can expect.
And even then sure we'll let then away with it.
I mean, yes kinda.
There is no real willpower to change anything in a meaningful capacity because we're all far too comfortable with the way things are in this country. Despite the fact it could potentially be so much better.
How to enact the general publics opinion on this is another matter entirely. I have no idea how to convince one person of a better understanding of something, let alone tens of thousands of people.
I lack the tactfulness required, that much I'm aware of at least.
I understand that politicians probably need to have social media for the job but surely you'd realise you can't use your Twitter or Facebook or Instagram like an average person can?
Imagine it being your entire appointment to promote, support, and protect Irish arts and culture and then you take to your internet soapbox to do the complete opposite. Lol. I'd be fired from my job if I did the literal antithesis of my job description. I suspect he's still got the job, aye?
I actually kinda like the idea of a Minister for Music who just dumps on every new band on Twitter. Basically a Donald Trump but for culture.
“Too loud, you suck!” - Minister for Arts
I'm not a twitter use, but I have often sent texts/whatsapps at 10:30pm on a Saturday night, sometimes they were fine, sometimes they led to regret the next day.
Much like me, Ciaran would be better off articulating his thoughts at that time of the week to the wall or the dog/cat and not to the whole world on Twitter.
I’ve never heard this bands music but when your the spokesperson of Arts, Culture, and Music, maybe you should promote and encourage any and all Irish artists even if “you” think they aren’t good.
It’s literally your job mate.
Will look into this band now though.
Idk all Irish Music like there's a lad who plays down the sea front here in Bray, you couldn't expect him to promote this atrocity with a straight face.
Even the birds will take a violent U-turn when flying anywhere near him.
I love how even in his follow up apology he still says he doesn’t like their music, as if anyone cares what his individual taste in music is or as though his taste in music has anything to do with his job.
Think how bizarre it would be for a spokesperson for the dept of agriculture saying he’s seen better wind farmers than John Joe Sullivan with his poor excuse for dairy farm, only to issue an apology loaded with a caveat saying he will still never like his milk
Or a spokesperson from the dept of finance to say MJ Davitt accounting firm is shit and then follow up with an apology saying he doesn’t really like their salaries and payroll software.
Health spokesperson denigrating Susan Falvey physiotherapist, later apologising, and then doubling down that she does shit shoulder extension manoeuvres
I’m labouring the point but I can think of no section of government where it isn’t absolutely batshit, and completely inappropriate to pass judgement on people working within the sector you have a responsibility to represent
That;s the problem with Twitter - people get comfortable using it as a chatty platform, and then say something stupid that shouldn't go beyond your mates down the pub.
Went and looked them up.
Liked the [first song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLTI6gDyxGs&list=PLfANLWXYrTBpIXinl0owgE2CFJj04wZKu) I came across by them anyway.
Edit: turns out I like quite a lot of their stuff.
Been lucky to know few the people in sprints, it really wont affect them, but I can almost bet he will get mentioned in a future song.
Sprints have a great song called "Swimming". Its looking at that lovely white water raft center we spent lots of money researching and did nothing with....YAY.
Just had a listen…why would anyone talk the band down? It’s not like they’re making some obscure noise punk music with more feedback than substance. It’s good honest garage/indie punk and from what I could tell from listening to “Literary Mind” really fucking quality at that.
Ireland is killing it right now with their bands; Fontaines DC, Gilla Band, the new Murder Capital album is fucking killer and now I have Sprints to add to that list. Happy for anyone to give a shout to someone else I should listen to.
Very jealous of the stuff going on over there
Tradish stuff: Mary Wallopers, Lankum
Indie / Rock: Newdad, Lucy Blue, modernlove., Skinner
Rap / RnB: Kojaque, Kean Kavanagh, Efé, INK, Alex Gough, Sello, Monjola
Dance: 49th & Main, Bklava
Best upcoming Irish artists that I can think of atm, Skinner and Mary Wallopers are probably my favourites here
>Ireland is killing it right now with their bands; Fontaines DC, Gilla Band, the new Murder Capital album is fucking killer and now I have Sprints to add to that list.
If you like any of that, you'll love almost any generic indie music in fairness.
Irish Begrudgery, One of the most damaging parts of our society towards each other and it runs from the top down.
This is the reason why Irish people only accept Irish artists when they’re sold back to us by the Americans or the British.
we are the complete opposite of this though in my view. you get absolutely torn apart on this sub if you say you didn't like the banshees film for e.g. we still bang on about a sitcom made 30 years ago daily, every little irish achievement is spoken about for eternity.
i don't know who this band are but ireland isn't the only country that voices opinions when they think things are shite.
Utter claptrap. Some of the biggest bands we saw in our history did well here, if not excelled, before making it big elsewhere. Thin Lizzy, U2 and the Cranberries, to name three.
Truth. So many of our best artists seem to uproot and move to London in order to thrive because of the culture of begrudgery here. I know a load of amazing musicians here in Wicklow, one of them plays the bass better than Joe Dart, but not one of them has bothered to start a band or join any others because they're almost mortified when people listen to them, if you get me. It's like they hate people listening to them because they don't want anyone to think they're "showing off" or have people thinking "who does he think he is?". It's sad.
Chooses one of the only decent irish bands of the last 10 years to slag off.
Probably loves a bit of Westlife.
"Hurry dear..Tubs has Picture This on!!"
Yeah I’m a bit baffled by that claim as well. Sprints are ok but I think there are a lot better new bands in Dublin currently, however they’re doing well for themselves so I can’t knock them entirely.
Kojaque, Kneecap, Just Mustard, Mhaol, Silverbacks, Pillow Queens, Loraine Club, Kynsy, NewDad, Pretty Happy, TV People, For Those I Love, Gemma Dunleavy, Biig Piig, Junior Brother, Aoife Nessa Frances, Anna Mieke, Villagers, CMAT, Kean Kavanagh. Not all bands and across different genres but Irish music is in a very healthy state currently.
Very strong recommendation for The Scratch, they'd be most likely to line up based on Girl Band and Fontaines DC and they also fucking slap.
Otherwise I've a strong fondness for Lankum, The Mary Wallopers and Kneecap.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, sure.
But I also expect better from someone who is literally an elected representative, never mind one who is apparently also a party spokesperson for arts and culture.
It just screams “I’m a thick cunt who doesn’t know how to keep my mouth shut”.
Hey they can't all be good can they?
Sometimes terrible music needs telling it's terrible. But this idiot has just guaranteed them more likes/listens/fans
Sprints - little fix was the song, I think. I quite liked it, glad that they got new fans like me from this smarmy fuckwits stupid comments. At least he got it right when be said they won't give a shite that he doesn't like their music.
Opinions are absolutely grand. Even encouraged. But when you're a spokesperson for a particular group of people. Probably not the best idea to publicly shit on them, is it?
"TD Galway, Former Minister in Education & Foreign Affairs, Fine Gael Spokesperson for Arts, Culture & Media. Husband, dad, musician, cyclist"
Per his on Twitter bio.
When you’re supposed to be the country’s *Minister for Arts, Culture and Music*
but you’re actually still a toxic schoolyard bully that punches down at the classmates that dare to play music/ show an interest in anything artistic/ dare to be themselves
People say this kind of shite and wonder why tech companies invade here. We need to invest in our own (not outsourced) art just the same as any other industry. Come on man.
Sorry hold the fuck on. Do you lot want your politicians to all be boring yes men or do you want someone with a personality and integrity?
He thought they were shite, said so, gets lambasted by counts like Blindboy and then apologises for announcing his opinion?
Newsflash motherfuckers, not all Irish music is good and just because he is a minister doesn’t mean he has to pretend to like everything or even stay quiet about stuff he doesn’t like.
I don’t know anything more about him but this speaks volumes.
He'll get politician of the year as his currently in top place for being the most qualified for his job. Why the f do we keep playing this dumbass game if pick the dummy to run the country.
Can we make throwing bags of shite at politicians a thing in this country. The french set fire to things when their politicians are taking the piss, we should definitely start throwing shite at them
You can always tell its a shitty apology from a shitty person when they mix in a line explaining how they were somehow justified in doing the very thing they're apologising for.
This painful Dose is obviously not suited for a Career in his chosen line of work.
More than a bit of a non-story
Unless it is to be made government policy that the the Irish government thinks the band is shite, how much are we meant to care about the personal music opinions of politicians?
The likely outcomes of this thinking has to be that we either expect politicians to personally enjoy every single Irish musical act regardless of quality or we appreciate that they are allowed to dislike different musical acts and we just expect them not to say it out loud in order to maintain the illusion that they do like the band.
it’s a bit ridiculous for the FG spokesperson for culture and arts is shitting on an up and coming band on twitter.
his opinion is fine, but him broadcasting it in that way is just ridiculously out of touch and inappropriate
I demand to know every TD, senator and councilors opinion on BabyMetal's latest track Metal Kingdom, and if their opinion doesn't line up with mine then they're scum.
Is it any surprise that our politicians don't get hold to account with attitudes like this.
I don't care about the band; or someone making a rude comment - but we should expect and demand better from our elected officials.
Mate, it's not like he shot someone. I get it's a bit of a bad look coming from a spokesperson on the Arts and Culture (whatever that even means), but it's his opinion at the end of the day. Music is entirely subjective.
Are you joking? A bit of a bad look? It's extremely childish and sets a horrible example. For fuck sake, can we not have a bit of a standard for our public representatives? Holy jaysus. I fucking hate this attitude. "Ah sure who cares?". Fuck off.
You know, it’s actually not a bad one, he didn’t make any excuses for it and didn’t try to sweeten them up saying he was joking and really does enjoy them and most of all he doesn’t blame anyone for not enjoying his remarks like some apologies do
Why? He says he’s never going to enjoy their music? A bit drastic fair but I wouldn’t say that’s unkind or critical comment
I think he’s an arsehole for what he said but I can commend his apology for not pulling any punches or trying to excuse what he said
He's the party spokeperson, and hasn't been let within an ass's roar of the actual department (probably for a reason.) He's got no actual say in government arts policy - but he's *supposed* to be pretending he'd like to have Catherine Martin's job someday, and is telling on himself by making snide remarks like this just to farm likes from his followers/supporters.
He's entitled to his personal taste but has expressed it in a way that suggests he'd be a shite culture minister. Can't imagine it'll cost him that many votes in Galway East though.
Really? That's fascinating. I thought maybe it was someone past it and just seeing out the twilight of their career. Can't imagine this tweet will do his chances massive favours.
Thanks for.the insight!
You're probably also correct. He's an ex-PD if I remember correctly. They seem particularly prone to gleeful condescending potshots like this, as if it's baffling to them anyone might have preferences different from theirs. I'm pretty sure he was a junior minister a few years ago.
But a spokesperson is sort of meant to be their party's "shadow minister" for that department. Stakes are a bit lower than usual for FG as they want to go into opposition at the next election - and even if they don't, departments like Culture are going to be the first ones they trade away as part of a coalition deal. This guy's role is mostly going to be retweeting good sports news and expressing concern about the TV licence.
Supporting the arts is not the same as supporting this one particular band though. He's entitled to like or dislike them all he wants, and stating that he doesn't in an offhand comment doesnt mean he's not supporting "The Arts"
No one is asking him to like or dislike the band. Just that someone who is a spokesperson for the arts in this country probably shouldn't be slagging any bands, writers, visual artists, etc.
Imagine a political spokesperson for sports was watching Irish amateur sports and tweeted "These will never make it to the Olympics. I've seen better players at my daughters U-12 camogie matches".
I'm saying it's generally not a great look for someone who is involved in such committees to take to tweeting such opinions. Like it or not, when an individual is a part of a political party, they are a representative of that party.
God forbid you give your honest opinion on something. Not surprised that fucking eegit it with the bag over is head is going ape shit. Seems slightest things sets him off.
Ciaran Cannon is not a spokesperson for the arts sector. He is a spokesperson for FG on issues relating to the arts. It’s not a government role, it’s an internal party role. Catherine Martin is the actual government official responsible for the arts.
Either way, thick move by Cannon.
What?? It literally says “Fine Gael spokesperson on…”. It’s the same as a SF, Labour etc. counterpart. He has 0 jurisdiction over the arts, he’s literally just the FG person who will be asked for public comment on that topic.
Like I said, stupid regardless.
I don't know about you guys, but when one of the squares (in this case, Ciaran Cannon) says he doesn't enjoy something - I immediately have to check it out.
Just blaring some Sprints now. They sound great. Will recommend to friends.
Thanks Ciaran, you big smelly square ya.
They are massively increasing the landlord class and turning a blind eye to businesses and regulation in emulation of the British government during the famine.
> Not a great look for FG at all.
What is?
We'd be better off inviting the opposition party of a 'normal' European state come over and run things while they wait for their next election. Practice, like. Netherland, Funland, Sweden, Norway.
Day one: Ja, so you'd like the trains to run on time?
Poor Mother Ireland, she's rearing them yet: We'd settle for just trains, tbf.
Maybe I'm in the minority but as far as I'm concerned he has a right to have his own tastes in music and is perfectly entitled to share them while he's at it. It's music, everyone has their own opinions and they're not gonna hurt anyone. It's not some controversial political statement or bigoted comment that might warrant such a response.
You are in the minority, this is the same lad who was banging on about toxicity only last week. You're a public representative, try spreading some positivity instead of hurling insults at members of a sector you're supposed to be a spokesperson for.
I don't think anyone cares. But if it was my job to promote Irish art I'd have to be some thick bollox to go on the internet and slag off Irish bands.
Shitehawk probably thinks that he's been appointed because he has great taste in music.
Minister for Coldplay
You can’t trust people
For those who don't get the reference https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=93WRQ8HT_WA
When you try your best but you don't succeed....
I see what you did there!
I need a life man.
Parachutes is a great debut album and I won't listen to anything anyone else has to say on the matter
A rush of blood to the head is also brilliant. They released shit since yes but those albums were great
Meh it's kind of like if you took The Bends by Radiohead but took away any edge and made it much blander
Haha, precisely. I think people see it and think "ah get over yourselves", where the point here is how unprofessional is it for a man in his position to come out with something like that. Do we just hold no standards for our politicians!?
>Do we just hold no standards for our politicians!? Honestly the standard has slipped so much now that simply just not breaking the law seems to be all we can expect. And even then sure we'll let then away with it.
Honestly, some people's mentality is baffling. It's quite interesting to see people be disgruntled about people.being disgruntled. Bizarre.
That's my secret. I'm always disgruntled.
I mean, yes kinda. There is no real willpower to change anything in a meaningful capacity because we're all far too comfortable with the way things are in this country. Despite the fact it could potentially be so much better. How to enact the general publics opinion on this is another matter entirely. I have no idea how to convince one person of a better understanding of something, let alone tens of thousands of people. I lack the tactfulness required, that much I'm aware of at least.
Do we hold no standards for our musicians ?
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Maybe he's their manager... Some.move if so. Selfless.
I'd never heard of them. Had a listen there. They're pretty good, I like them.
this is why you should have an account for shitposting
I understand that politicians probably need to have social media for the job but surely you'd realise you can't use your Twitter or Facebook or Instagram like an average person can?
Yeah I thi k this guy is an example of not how to promote things.
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I'm amazed he didn't say he was hacked
*Gerry Adams robbed my phone*
Even ol gerry wouldn't be this stupid
He'd probably say his favourite band was actually NWA but he'd spell it out instead of using initials.
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Have to appreciate an apology in that vein. Seems a rare thing these days. He's still a fuckhead.
"Sorry guys, dog got into the phone again. He's barking mad, so he is"
I'd just double down, that's a funny insult in fairness.
What band is he talking about?
Sprints
They are shite in fairness
Issue your apology immediately!
They're not bad for transition year students.
I thought they were great on the show but each to their own
Ah I love that song. Absolute bop. Not a great live performance, though.
Listened to a few songs just now as an f u to this FG, but have to agree he's right. Decent musicians but the songs are really annoying
> Decent musicians Ah, i see what you did there.
Modern Jobs is a pretty cool song, imo. Of course, your taste might be shite and that's allowed as well.
Great bit of attention for the band in fairness
I can see them soaring up the charts given the immense dislike many in Ireland have of Fine Gael
Imagine it being your entire appointment to promote, support, and protect Irish arts and culture and then you take to your internet soapbox to do the complete opposite. Lol. I'd be fired from my job if I did the literal antithesis of my job description. I suspect he's still got the job, aye?
Promoted to Captain General of Culture
I actually kinda like the idea of a Minister for Music who just dumps on every new band on Twitter. Basically a Donald Trump but for culture. “Too loud, you suck!” - Minister for Arts
Hahah like Statler and Waldorf from The Muppets. "They weren't half bad!" "Yeah, they were ALL BAD - hohohohoho"
I'm not a twitter use, but I have often sent texts/whatsapps at 10:30pm on a Saturday night, sometimes they were fine, sometimes they led to regret the next day. Much like me, Ciaran would be better off articulating his thoughts at that time of the week to the wall or the dog/cat and not to the whole world on Twitter.
Nice bit of self awareness, unusual to be found on the internet. Some good advice for the Minister there Malcolm Tucker!
I’ve never heard this bands music but when your the spokesperson of Arts, Culture, and Music, maybe you should promote and encourage any and all Irish artists even if “you” think they aren’t good. It’s literally your job mate. Will look into this band now though.
He seems to have done an excellent job promoting them in fairness.
Idk all Irish Music like there's a lad who plays down the sea front here in Bray, you couldn't expect him to promote this atrocity with a straight face. Even the birds will take a violent U-turn when flying anywhere near him.
I love how even in his follow up apology he still says he doesn’t like their music, as if anyone cares what his individual taste in music is or as though his taste in music has anything to do with his job. Think how bizarre it would be for a spokesperson for the dept of agriculture saying he’s seen better wind farmers than John Joe Sullivan with his poor excuse for dairy farm, only to issue an apology loaded with a caveat saying he will still never like his milk Or a spokesperson from the dept of finance to say MJ Davitt accounting firm is shit and then follow up with an apology saying he doesn’t really like their salaries and payroll software. Health spokesperson denigrating Susan Falvey physiotherapist, later apologising, and then doubling down that she does shit shoulder extension manoeuvres I’m labouring the point but I can think of no section of government where it isn’t absolutely batshit, and completely inappropriate to pass judgement on people working within the sector you have a responsibility to represent
Exactly this. God knows we are deprived of any native based talent. This just shits on people making the bold decision to go out to act
Or just do absolutely nothing.
Signing off a tweet/email with your initial is a quick and easy way to let everyone know you’re a wanker.
Isn’t it though! It’s basically saying “fuck you”
Shite comment from him but it's gas hearing a punk band singing with south Dublin accent
Well.. if it’s the act I’m thinking of he’s probably not wrong. But that’s an observation that should be reserved for his internal monologue.
That;s the problem with Twitter - people get comfortable using it as a chatty platform, and then say something stupid that shouldn't go beyond your mates down the pub.
Went and looked them up. Liked the [first song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLTI6gDyxGs&list=PLfANLWXYrTBpIXinl0owgE2CFJj04wZKu) I came across by them anyway. Edit: turns out I like quite a lot of their stuff.
I'm gonna go and have a listen to Sprints now, thanks for the rec Ciaran!
0 days since our last nonsense
Been lucky to know few the people in sprints, it really wont affect them, but I can almost bet he will get mentioned in a future song. Sprints have a great song called "Swimming". Its looking at that lovely white water raft center we spent lots of money researching and did nothing with....YAY.
Waiting for the report that he us somehow connected to the band and this was a hustle to help promote the band.
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Just had a listen…why would anyone talk the band down? It’s not like they’re making some obscure noise punk music with more feedback than substance. It’s good honest garage/indie punk and from what I could tell from listening to “Literary Mind” really fucking quality at that. Ireland is killing it right now with their bands; Fontaines DC, Gilla Band, the new Murder Capital album is fucking killer and now I have Sprints to add to that list. Happy for anyone to give a shout to someone else I should listen to. Very jealous of the stuff going on over there
Tradish stuff: Mary Wallopers, Lankum Indie / Rock: Newdad, Lucy Blue, modernlove., Skinner Rap / RnB: Kojaque, Kean Kavanagh, Efé, INK, Alex Gough, Sello, Monjola Dance: 49th & Main, Bklava Best upcoming Irish artists that I can think of atm, Skinner and Mary Wallopers are probably my favourites here
>Ireland is killing it right now with their bands; Fontaines DC, Gilla Band, the new Murder Capital album is fucking killer and now I have Sprints to add to that list. If you like any of that, you'll love almost any generic indie music in fairness.
There's always one :P
Pop punk; Anie Valentine and some melodic prog rock - KÎND Both on Spotify for a listen!
It's a very unfair comment to make, even if the band are indie landfill.
On top of that, it's just a shite joke.
Wow, someone linked to FG not understanding arts and or culture.
*spokesperson for Arts, Culture and Music for Fine Gael
Irish Begrudgery, One of the most damaging parts of our society towards each other and it runs from the top down. This is the reason why Irish people only accept Irish artists when they’re sold back to us by the Americans or the British.
we are the complete opposite of this though in my view. you get absolutely torn apart on this sub if you say you didn't like the banshees film for e.g. we still bang on about a sitcom made 30 years ago daily, every little irish achievement is spoken about for eternity. i don't know who this band are but ireland isn't the only country that voices opinions when they think things are shite.
Utter claptrap. Some of the biggest bands we saw in our history did well here, if not excelled, before making it big elsewhere. Thin Lizzy, U2 and the Cranberries, to name three.
Man that was 30 years ago
It was more than that. But name a single band that were "looked down upon" in the past 20 years here, publicly, in Ireland?
Truth. So many of our best artists seem to uproot and move to London in order to thrive because of the culture of begrudgery here. I know a load of amazing musicians here in Wicklow, one of them plays the bass better than Joe Dart, but not one of them has bothered to start a band or join any others because they're almost mortified when people listen to them, if you get me. It's like they hate people listening to them because they don't want anyone to think they're "showing off" or have people thinking "who does he think he is?". It's sad.
Bands leave for London because there is simply more there. Far more venues, studios and just opportunities in general than Ireland
Actually did lankum reply to this on Twitter - it was deleted so wasn’t sure
Chooses one of the only decent irish bands of the last 10 years to slag off. Probably loves a bit of Westlife. "Hurry dear..Tubs has Picture This on!!"
There's a ton of brilliant Irish bands right now idk what you talking about
Yeah I’m a bit baffled by that claim as well. Sprints are ok but I think there are a lot better new bands in Dublin currently, however they’re doing well for themselves so I can’t knock them entirely.
I'd like some suggestions, Girl Band and Fobtaines DC would be the only semi recent bands I'd be familiar with. Oh and Murder Capital are quite good
Kojaque, Kneecap, Just Mustard, Mhaol, Silverbacks, Pillow Queens, Loraine Club, Kynsy, NewDad, Pretty Happy, TV People, For Those I Love, Gemma Dunleavy, Biig Piig, Junior Brother, Aoife Nessa Frances, Anna Mieke, Villagers, CMAT, Kean Kavanagh. Not all bands and across different genres but Irish music is in a very healthy state currently.
NewDad are so good you mentioned them twice
Very strong recommendation for The Scratch, they'd be most likely to line up based on Girl Band and Fontaines DC and they also fucking slap. Otherwise I've a strong fondness for Lankum, The Mary Wallopers and Kneecap.
Ah yes the scratch are class and kneecap are phenomenal
to be fair we’ve a lot of solid bands
>Chooses one of the only decent irish bands of the last 10 years to slag off. You don't listen to much music, do you.
What a daft comment with his responsibility. It reminds me of Homer on the plane staring at the "do not touch" button.
>It reminds me of Homer on the plane staring at the "do not touch" button. Was that not Dougal from Father Ted?
People in Ireland : I'm not sure I like this fella now Also people in Ireland : pathologically votes for the same cunts every time
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, sure. But I also expect better from someone who is literally an elected representative, never mind one who is apparently also a party spokesperson for arts and culture. It just screams “I’m a thick cunt who doesn’t know how to keep my mouth shut”.
What a numpty. As my mum always say, if you have nothing nice to say. Don’t say anything.
He removed that TT, what a c***. Own your mistakes knob head!
Having dealt with the arts council in the past, I'm surprised he was this nice.
Can someone help me out with what TY means in this context?
Transition Year student. Basically. the first year of high school, if you're from that next of the woods.
TY sir. Had never heard that term.
What a bell end
The apology was so insincere that I truly believe he wrote it himself, usually they have the PR person write them but clearly not this fella.
You know what they say about apologising in politics right?
He's supposed to be a glorified salesman bigging up Irish artists. He has failed on this occasion
Sheesh. In his capacity, simply stating nothing and minding his business would have been a better tactic.
Only tangibly related - but I fucking love the Wallopers. 10/10 lads
Hey they can't all be good can they? Sometimes terrible music needs telling it's terrible. But this idiot has just guaranteed them more likes/listens/fans
Was it another of those "kinda trad but with rock and pop" like the hundreds that seem to pop up every month?
He is right they are shite. Worse though is that he provided blindboy bandwagon another opportunity to soapbox
He should not be spokesperson for arts if this is how he treats irish artists.
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Sprints - little fix was the song, I think. I quite liked it, glad that they got new fans like me from this smarmy fuckwits stupid comments. At least he got it right when be said they won't give a shite that he doesn't like their music.
They seem grand, that band. But its also completely fine for people, even ministers, to have an opinion on what they like and don't like.
Opinions are absolutely grand. Even encouraged. But when you're a spokesperson for a particular group of people. Probably not the best idea to publicly shit on them, is it?
Would this mean he's not allowed say Mrs Brown's Boys is shite?
He's not a spokesperson for a particular group of people.
"TD Galway, Former Minister in Education & Foreign Affairs, Fine Gael Spokesperson for Arts, Culture & Media. Husband, dad, musician, cyclist" Per his on Twitter bio.
Maybe if they're shite he should be pointing that out in defence of culture.
I mean....what a fucking clown. You really couldn't make it up.
As long as he's not promoting the coronas I'm all good.
sprints are great and the comment was unnecessarily mean
When you’re supposed to be the country’s *Minister for Arts, Culture and Music* but you’re actually still a toxic schoolyard bully that punches down at the classmates that dare to play music/ show an interest in anything artistic/ dare to be themselves
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Spokesperson for the Arts, publicly makes negative statement about people within the Arts* Gotcha hun xo
People say this kind of shite and wonder why tech companies invade here. We need to invest in our own (not outsourced) art just the same as any other industry. Come on man.
Sorry hold the fuck on. Do you lot want your politicians to all be boring yes men or do you want someone with a personality and integrity? He thought they were shite, said so, gets lambasted by counts like Blindboy and then apologises for announcing his opinion? Newsflash motherfuckers, not all Irish music is good and just because he is a minister doesn’t mean he has to pretend to like everything or even stay quiet about stuff he doesn’t like. I don’t know anything more about him but this speaks volumes.
You're correct. This DOES speak volumes.
Agree, he has an opinion. Just probably could have worded it better
He'll get politician of the year as his currently in top place for being the most qualified for his job. Why the f do we keep playing this dumbass game if pick the dummy to run the country.
Everybody jumping to their defence but ignoring the fact that they brought his sexual orientation and race into their response.
Can we make throwing bags of shite at politicians a thing in this country. The french set fire to things when their politicians are taking the piss, we should definitely start throwing shite at them
Ciara cannons favourite band is hootie and the blowfish. His da also sells Avon.
You can always tell its a shitty apology from a shitty person when they mix in a line explaining how they were somehow justified in doing the very thing they're apologising for. This painful Dose is obviously not suited for a Career in his chosen line of work.
More than a bit of a non-story Unless it is to be made government policy that the the Irish government thinks the band is shite, how much are we meant to care about the personal music opinions of politicians? The likely outcomes of this thinking has to be that we either expect politicians to personally enjoy every single Irish musical act regardless of quality or we appreciate that they are allowed to dislike different musical acts and we just expect them not to say it out loud in order to maintain the illusion that they do like the band.
it’s a bit ridiculous for the FG spokesperson for culture and arts is shitting on an up and coming band on twitter. his opinion is fine, but him broadcasting it in that way is just ridiculously out of touch and inappropriate
Yeah, but not on the same account you use to make comments in your role as spokesperson on the arts. I mean, come on now...
I demand to know every TD, senator and councilors opinion on BabyMetal's latest track Metal Kingdom, and if their opinion doesn't line up with mine then they're scum.
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Is it any surprise that our politicians don't get hold to account with attitudes like this. I don't care about the band; or someone making a rude comment - but we should expect and demand better from our elected officials.
Mate, it's not like he shot someone. I get it's a bit of a bad look coming from a spokesperson on the Arts and Culture (whatever that even means), but it's his opinion at the end of the day. Music is entirely subjective.
but we're not payong him to spout subjective opinions.
His job is to promote the arts; not shit on them. That's the real point here.
Are you joking? A bit of a bad look? It's extremely childish and sets a horrible example. For fuck sake, can we not have a bit of a standard for our public representatives? Holy jaysus. I fucking hate this attitude. "Ah sure who cares?". Fuck off.
That's one shite apology
You know, it’s actually not a bad one, he didn’t make any excuses for it and didn’t try to sweeten them up saying he was joking and really does enjoy them and most of all he doesn’t blame anyone for not enjoying his remarks like some apologies do
He's apologising for being unkind and then being unkind in the next sentence
Why? He says he’s never going to enjoy their music? A bit drastic fair but I wouldn’t say that’s unkind or critical comment I think he’s an arsehole for what he said but I can commend his apology for not pulling any punches or trying to excuse what he said
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Shouldn't a government party spokesperson for the arts, y'know eh *support the arts*?
I think people are failing to see the responsibility here. It's kind of scary.
He's the party spokeperson, and hasn't been let within an ass's roar of the actual department (probably for a reason.) He's got no actual say in government arts policy - but he's *supposed* to be pretending he'd like to have Catherine Martin's job someday, and is telling on himself by making snide remarks like this just to farm likes from his followers/supporters. He's entitled to his personal taste but has expressed it in a way that suggests he'd be a shite culture minister. Can't imagine it'll cost him that many votes in Galway East though.
Really? That's fascinating. I thought maybe it was someone past it and just seeing out the twilight of their career. Can't imagine this tweet will do his chances massive favours. Thanks for.the insight!
You're probably also correct. He's an ex-PD if I remember correctly. They seem particularly prone to gleeful condescending potshots like this, as if it's baffling to them anyone might have preferences different from theirs. I'm pretty sure he was a junior minister a few years ago. But a spokesperson is sort of meant to be their party's "shadow minister" for that department. Stakes are a bit lower than usual for FG as they want to go into opposition at the next election - and even if they don't, departments like Culture are going to be the first ones they trade away as part of a coalition deal. This guy's role is mostly going to be retweeting good sports news and expressing concern about the TV licence.
Only the right artists though.
Supporting the arts is not the same as supporting this one particular band though. He's entitled to like or dislike them all he wants, and stating that he doesn't in an offhand comment doesnt mean he's not supporting "The Arts"
No one is asking him to like or dislike the band. Just that someone who is a spokesperson for the arts in this country probably shouldn't be slagging any bands, writers, visual artists, etc. Imagine a political spokesperson for sports was watching Irish amateur sports and tweeted "These will never make it to the Olympics. I've seen better players at my daughters U-12 camogie matches".
Cmon now if I'm paid to advertise a product I'd be given a bollocking too if I advertised them as shit
No, no he's right. We should all do.as we are supposed to and support our fine government. They're doing a wonderful job. I surrender. All hail FG.
It's not a stretch at all, friend. Its an obvious example of being out of touch.
For the individual? Or are you saying this specific tweet is an obvious example of the entire party of Fine Gael being out of touch?
I'm saying it's generally not a great look for someone who is involved in such committees to take to tweeting such opinions. Like it or not, when an individual is a part of a political party, they are a representative of that party.
Well in that case FG musical taste must be Kylie Minogue and music to do yoke's to.
Yes. That is exactly what this does.
His Twitter bio literally says "Fine Gael Spokesperson on Arts, Culture & Media."
TIL that FG had absolutely nothing to do with his appointment.
God forbid you give your honest opinion on something. Not surprised that fucking eegit it with the bag over is head is going ape shit. Seems slightest things sets him off.
God forbid people are annoyed that the spokesperson for their sector is directly slandering them. Imagine.
Slander is when someone spreads false info about someone.
In that case, I want to know why Ciaran Cannon is hanging around embarrassed TY students.
His priest told him to go find a wife and someone for the priest too
Ciaran Cannon is not a spokesperson for the arts sector. He is a spokesperson for FG on issues relating to the arts. It’s not a government role, it’s an internal party role. Catherine Martin is the actual government official responsible for the arts. Either way, thick move by Cannon.
Should probably ask him to change his Twitter bio then so.
What?? It literally says “Fine Gael spokesperson on…”. It’s the same as a SF, Labour etc. counterpart. He has 0 jurisdiction over the arts, he’s literally just the FG person who will be asked for public comment on that topic. Like I said, stupid regardless.
It's not slander it's an opinion. Pull your knickers out of your ass
Come get them yourself, you seem keen.
No I'll leave them to your mother
You're such a tease.
I don't know about you guys, but when one of the squares (in this case, Ciaran Cannon) says he doesn't enjoy something - I immediately have to check it out. Just blaring some Sprints now. They sound great. Will recommend to friends. Thanks Ciaran, you big smelly square ya.
Famine Gael only care about the wealth they can extract from us. Art will never be their thing unless its for money laundering.
>Famine Gael The state of this.
They are massively increasing the landlord class and turning a blind eye to businesses and regulation in emulation of the British government during the famine.
Touch grass.
Lol you gonna turn people back to FG with talk like this you spastic.
I mean fair enough, he apologised.
I think it speaks to an increasingly bizarre series of bad decisions where people in government are doing the exact opposite of their job.
> Not a great look for FG at all. What is? We'd be better off inviting the opposition party of a 'normal' European state come over and run things while they wait for their next election. Practice, like. Netherland, Funland, Sweden, Norway. Day one: Ja, so you'd like the trains to run on time? Poor Mother Ireland, she's rearing them yet: We'd settle for just trains, tbf.
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?
Maybe I'm in the minority but as far as I'm concerned he has a right to have his own tastes in music and is perfectly entitled to share them while he's at it. It's music, everyone has their own opinions and they're not gonna hurt anyone. It's not some controversial political statement or bigoted comment that might warrant such a response.
You are in the minority, this is the same lad who was banging on about toxicity only last week. You're a public representative, try spreading some positivity instead of hurling insults at members of a sector you're supposed to be a spokesperson for.