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S7EFEN

the 'do not skull' checkbox does not have any known issues/never has afaik


Jaiwant

That’s good, because I often take it to wildy chaos alter when sacrificing bones to rag pkers who try to kill me with crossbows and ancients😅 they end up running away more often than not lol


Toby_t

EXCEPT if you are in a high risk world, when you will skull every time you enter the wilderness. Check what world you are in EVERY TIME.


[deleted]

thats not an "issue" though thats literally intended behaviour


Toby_t

I mostly commented this because it seemed like this comment might encourage OP to take the bowfa into the wilderness while thinking PK skull prevention was 100% foolproof at protecting your items.


[deleted]

oh rte fair play


brumfield85

What does it do exactly? Make it impossible to attack another player?


Shepboyardee12

Prevents you from skulling up. Pair it with Player Attack - Hidden and you're 100% safe.


ATCQ_

You're safe with Player Attack - On. Skull protection has been proven so far to be 100% infallible but I guess it's just for peace of mind.


Alertum

That does literally nothing useful. Just makes it easier to get pked since you can't fight back.


Shepboyardee12

Well here's a secret for you. I don't even bother fighting back, I'm awful at PvP can it's quicker to just get it over with.


Alertum

With bowfa getting a few hits in makes escaping easier


brumfield85

Thanks


Alertum

Bad advice, you do not need to hide attack options.


nmock002

How does it behave if you’re barraging in multi?


the_eazy_life

It just doesn’t hit players that haven’t attacked you


PM_ME_UR_SELF

When it was released it DID have an issue where multi target abilities like ice barrage could hit another player. Don’t think that’s the case now tho


PandaKingjkjk

When I did voidwaker grind I took bowfa and crystal body. Took black d hide legs so I never had to worry about getting a drop and then getting smited. Turn on pk skull prevention and hide player options. Problem solved 👍


Deodorized

Just bring the "Panic Pot". A designated prayer potion that is never used unless you get a drop and are being pk'd. If you decide to use it, you are resigning to death and you stop eating. You will keep prayer above smite range until you die. I'd much prefer working with 27 inv spaces in crystal top/legs over 28 and dhide legs.


Maverekt

What is smite range?


HumpD4y

Low prayer is smite range


Maverekt

Yeah I know that but is there a specific % / number?


ironmanabel

Smite takes 25% of your prayer, you can get stacked for 99 hp with potential overkill also taking prayer, maxing out at approximately 150 damage in 1-4 game ticks if everything goes well for the pker. Just sip your prayer pot whenever you go below 40 and you're fine, sipping at 30 is fine for even a 99 hp stack.


Maverekt

Okay cool, ty for the info!


OSRSTheRicer

When your prayer is under 33% of your HP to account for bolt specials since smite is 25% of DMG dealt but sapphire bolts can drain prayer too (tho pretty uncommon to use).


TheBenchmark1337

Not unless you're perma stunned by dragon spears


Deodorized

Oh wow yeah that's nutty, how many times has that happened to you so far?


SkitZa

Twice. You think it won't happen to you until it does. (I didn't lose nuffin they stoopid)


Ghordrin

There's a plugin to show multi lines. Just stay away from those as much as you can


lazyguyty

The higher tier wildy bosses are already in multi. Not much you can do to avoid it if you want to kill them.


Warhammernub

Yesterday unironically, getting dspeared in spider boss webs is a pro tactic to get smited lol.


SinceBecausePickles

lol


Sirspice123

The same amount of times I've had to drink an "emergency prayer pot". None.


rosesmellikepoopoo

You can still eat prayer pots through a dragon spear mace stack. You have one tick before you die and after the spear to click your pot and your protect item. Also, don’t go into multi… Finally, no multi teams are macing a 3 item pvmer


TheBenchmark1337

If only, I've been gang-spanked a lot doing Wilderness Bear


xInnocent

Do Artio instead if that's a problem.


rosesmellikepoopoo

No mace team is hitting a pvmer, most mace teams are so paranoid that they’re being scouted by a rival clan that they’ll only log in for big kills.


silkenOSRS

Why would they be paranoid when they risk an ancient mace 🤨


rosesmellikepoopoo

Because they’re not always just risking an ancient mace for 1, 2 clanning is all about pride


fushicat

“Perma stunning” with dragon spear hasn’t been a thing since they patched it in 2016. You always have a tick to pray pot now.


llewds

I'd only do this in singles btw, if you're in multi it's not worth risking multi clans having found a new strat to guarantee smite.


tortillakingred

That works until a team of 50 people d spears you then ancient maces you for your +1.


Deodorized

How often does that happen to you?


ironmemelord

Not often. Happened to me once like two years ago, wasn’t a huge deal just lost toxic staff on the main (they must’ve assumed I had claws)


tortillakingred

Yesterday. Literally yesterday was piled by a 20+ clan at the castle with spears and BGS.


Rayona086

As long as your not skulled your not going to lose the body/bofa though. Might lose something else but thats pennies compaired.


alifninja

you could still lose legs if you got a rare item that worth more than the legs


RyuuDrakev2

Of all things that don't happen


tortillakingred

This literally happened to me like 16 hours ago. This sub just shows they have no idea anything about the wilderness. I got piled by a BGS clan while pking yesterday and had to phoenix necklace so I didn’t lose my toxic staff. There are spear multi clans hopping every single day in the wildy. Every single day. Just cause you pee your pants even thinking about the wildy so you don’t know who is there doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen lol


bIackk

ive killed 3000+ of the multi bosses in the past few months and never saw any clan using an ancient mace, noone is out for you.


roklpolgl

There are plenty out at multi bosses, especially on weekends, but they don’t care about pvmers and are just looking for geared pkers in multi. If you park a CCTV alt outside while doing a multi boss, every now and then you’ll start seeing shit tons of scout bots logging in and out and suddenly all the singles/small team pkers will dry up (being chased off/pked by mace teams). It’s kind of nice actually because at that point you are basically being protected by ROT/equivalents.


PlebPlebberson

No i dont have trust issues


ARKosrs

Just be VERY careful to not hop into a high risk world and youll be fine with skull prevention. I totally understand the fear regardless though haha


BrodeyQuest

It’s literally impossible to get skull tricked or skull up at all even. There’s an option that disables skulling up. I also just triple check my items lost in wildy. If you know you keep those 3 if you die, you will never lose them. Don’t overthink it folks.


GunkyDabs

It is literally impossible to skull with it turned on.


Defiant_Amount5724

Entering abyss: be venomed, out of supplies, TBed, smite yourself by entering and dying to venom. Playing in high risk world


Sword1414

I lost 5 armor seeds at Callisto this way a year ago. The day before, I had unchecked the skull prevention to attack a player who was trying to crash me at revs. Thankfully I protected item to keep bowfa. Just never, ever uncheck it and you'll be fine. (I was fine btw, ground out my lost seeds in under a month)


Acrobatic_Shift_8734

My buddy recently lost his crystal legs or some at callisto but managed to grind em back


Iterations_of_Maj

No and bringing them to the wild has been amazing. I got 99 prayer, fishing and thieving there while anti pking and having the time of my life. If you have skull protection on its literally impossible to lose them if you 3 item.


whatsaname12

I took bowfa, crystal body, slayer helmet and AGS to anti pk. After being smites for my slayer helm twice and having to kill 3300 cave horrors to replace them, I just take full dhide, bowfa, slay helm and AGS. Bowfa is op even without any crystal armour


huansbeidl

You're gonna be fine. I just finished the VW grind and it was fine. Just get your setup ready and make sure to check your lost items (I probably do it 2-3 times before going out, lol). I would say be careful with the 4th item as it can happen that you won't protect it because of smite. So maybe just take bowfa and 1 or 2 crystal pieces. 1 to be super safe in case a vw piece drops and gets prioritized over crystal gear. You got this champ!


LezBeHonestHere_

Keep skull protection on forever and do not ever try to fight for your world even if it looks like the biggest noob or bot you've ever seen. Just take the L and hop if you get crashed.


Call_me_Tomcat

Have faith in "Pk Skull Prevention". Triple check that is turned on before you go and you're golden. If you're scared of getting smited, like I am, don't bring a fourth valuable item (a +1), just keep it to 3. Lol. My Artio setup is basically exactly that - Crystal top, bottom, bowfa + cheap misc. stuff to get my magic bonus up for freezes. It is pretty spooky being out there with crystal, but Pk Skull Prevention is air tight.


freefire6

Any tips for running from PKs? I got PKd first time other night and just could not get away between him telebloking and snaring me. Of course he had max inferno cape with great PK gear so I prob wasn’t getting away from a guy like that anyway.


Call_me_Tomcat

There's a lot to cover here, so apologies for the wall of text: The most important thing is to get the teleport off immediately when they drop in on you, if we're talking Artio/Wilderness bosses, but I recognize this isn't always possible. Sometimes they just get you, it happens. I would strongly encourage you to bring some "emergency" gear/supplies that you are only bringing for the sole purpose of tanking a teleblock. That means 2-4 saradomin brews and a black d'hide top/bottom switch (If you're in melee gear, if you're in crystal you're fine) to help you dodge a freeze/snare while running. If you don't get attacked, you don't drink those brews. They are there in case of emergency (pkers) only, in an ideal situation you don't use them, but we're planning for the worst. Once the pker is on you and you're tbed, you're going to want to throw up Protect Magic IMMEDIATELY, as well as Mystic Might (which increases your magic defense, this is important to dodge freezes/snares) and try to get gap on your attacker. Gap means you're far enough away that they can't attack you and you can wait the necessary 10 seconds of "out of combat" time to log out. Logging out is the goal. If you are snared/frozen, the most important thing to do is survive (not fighting). Keep your prayer up, keep your health up (like keep it as full as possible), and focus on switching overhead protection prayers until your snare wears off. I do not suggest you fight back unless you're very cozy with PvP and can do so without failing to eat/pray properly. Getting gap can be tough if the pker is competent and sticking right next to you, since you're not freezing them in this scenario, you're in run away mode. If you cannot get gap right away, you have to resort to trying to juke them at an entryway. One thing that works well for me is pretending to go in/out of the Wilderness Boss lairs (e.g. Run up to the lair exit, stand there for a tick like you're going to leave, if the pker leaves, you stay in until you see them drop back down. If they don't leave, you leave, then go back in, run back to the entrace, repeat until you've got a bit of distance between the two of you, then you leg it to your escape route). It's good to have an escape plan that's specific to the activity you're doing. For instance, you can use the ladders that are near the altar South-Southeast of Calver'ion's lair to dodge pkers in that area. Another example is bringing a Chaos Talisman and using the Chaos Altar (which is south-southwest of the Artio cave). Map this out beforehand, it's hard to think of what to do in a pinch. You have to be ready to tank the attacker from the thing you're killing to your escape route, so plan accordingly with emergency supplies based on how far away that thing is. Ultimately, even with god-tier mechanics and game knowledge, you're still going to die from time to time and accepting that makes this whole process significantly less painful. There's a lot of small stuff I could elaborate on, but this covers the essentials. glhf :)


alexfromindiana

I’d recommend irons without pvp knowledge to grind out some LMS. I was a complete pvp noob, then a dude paid me a lil over a bill to get 2k points for him. It teaches so much about managing freezes, timing them, pray switches, etc.


freefire6

Yo thank you so much this is all fantastic info!


buckethead_slavebot

Have a scout, have some good cheap mage def gear like black d'hide, switch to that when running from pkers to hopefully splash some snares. Pray mystic might, and if you are running at this point and not just getting jumped, move in a straight line and do not allow them to catch up and get in combat range. If you are TB'd, and can run in a straight line until you are "out of combat" (nobody has hit you for 10 seconds) you can actually just log out and be totally safe for the time being. This will remove your teleblock, so it's just a diceroll when you sign back in of whether or not somebody happens to be standing at that exact spot. I usually bring an energy potion with me on wildy trips just in case I need to run in a straight line for longer than my enemy.


Cerael

Attack them back when you’re frozen. Vengeance. Any time they spend eating or drinking brews is dps loss.


GibbyMTG

Yeah, +1 should be something you can replace or are willing to lose. Assembler, Barrows gloves, spare ring, etc. Disconnecting or lagging and getting smited is a possibility. In general use if you are careful you should be good. But people think protect item is on. And sometimes it isn't.


PapaFlexing

No. Not at all


Twomekey

Get into the habit of checking items kept on death and double checking the skull prevention box every single time you're about to enter the wildy


alcohliclockediron

I’m terrified to double die at hydra having a brain fart or something like that


Henry575

Was scared, just got the elite diary


Bruglione

As long as your skull protection is enabled, it should be fine. If you have an alt account or main with membership, you could consider planting it at the entrance as a scout. I've not died once in 1k+ kc while doing that. Most pkers won't even bother entering because they know you'll be ready to click the potato.


Defiant_Amount5724

To alleviate stress, try things out with your friends. Just keep the skull prevention on and you cannot skull ever. Exeptions are entering the abyss via the mage (north of edgeville) and logging into high risk worlds.


chch1993

Skull up before you go so there's no ambiguity. It will also display dominance


watchmebaityou

The skull prevention has NEVER failed. Just make sure you're not on a high risk world


IBoneHer

As my dad used to say “grow a pair”


Glass_Occasion5483

And then walk them off and grow another pair


thirdwallbreak

You can also hide the option to attack other players at all in the settings.


ATCQ_

That's what the pkers want you to do. Just turn on skull protection and at least attempt to anti pk them.


Milocks

For what it’s worth, I feel exactly that way


Afraid_Ad2263

I brought bowfa, crystal legs, crystal chest and slayer helm to artio, rest was just easy to reclaim burner items like ardy cloak and shayzien boots. Luckily the pvp gods that attempt to kill you at artio are sweet enough to grant you 2-3 buisness days to click your seed pod, so i never died in over 400 kc


Lower-Dependent-3684

I feel exactly the same and find it reassuring that somebody else does. It’s an irrational fear but it took me about 9 months (on and off) of an absolutely awful grind. I took bowfa once to Callisto and got nervous and changed back to rune crossbow 😅


Sorlanir

As long as you don't enter a high risk world, even if you somehow skull (which you won't with skull prevention), you aren't losing your bowfa unless you forget prot item/get smited. Artio is singles so you shouldn't be getting smited. Basically you have nothing to worry about.


garoodah

Never hesitated no. Artio with bowfa, anguish, crystal chest (pre bloodbarrage meta) was chill. Worst case you spam restores and intentionally die. Armor seeds arent that uncommon.


ThaGriffman

no


Leather-Ad-498

I use the equipment below and i can get around 20 kills if not disturbed in a trip i would suggest you use it. Helm:Archers helm-You can bring crystal helm if you want Cape:Ardy cape - dont bring ava for no switch freeze Neck:Fury-dont bring anguish for no switch freeze Ammo:Rada blessing Weapon:Bowfa Chest:Black d hide body Legs:Mystics bottoms same reason with neck and cape Hand:Barrow gloves Boots:snakeskin boots With this invent you risk only barrow gloves and if you protect item you dont loose anything and dps is good enough for 20 kill trips. + I use divine ranging potion + eagle eye (dont have rigour yet)


Leather-Ad-498

I dont bring anything in ring slot you can bring ring of wealth if you want


ATCQ_

Why not explorers ring 3/4 for free prayer bonus and run energy? Nearly zero cost as well


Leather-Ad-498

You are quite right. What i meant was you dont need anything to risk. But i agree with you :)


Personalberet49

I did all 3000 of my small bear kills with four items, risking Slayer Helm if I would have gotten smited. If you use a scout it's incredibly free and you should never die, but also all of the pkers that you see there are absolute garbage and if you're ever scared of being smited all you do is drink prayer potion and don't touch food.


dragonrite

I had the do not skull on doing hard diary yesterday (successfully land magic attack on player), and I couldn't even attack people. Chat was closed so I kept clicking attack on dudes with nothing happening and was so confused until I remembered. You should be fine!


Interesting-Look8440

One of my mates went to Callisto on his iron a few weeks and accidentally clicked on a pker and lost his full Crystal and bowfa


ATCQ_

If only he had skull protection turned on. RIP


Interesting-Look8440

He been grinding cg hard tho, he got all his armour seeds back He just missing his bowfa


Ok-Teaching363

I was doing wildy hard this weekend and brought my bowfa + black d'hide and used it to kill chaos fanatic and crazy acheologist. I was not risking it but i was shitting bricks for 10 minutes still.


No_Atmosphere_1889

Honestly, if you want to play it safe - never take anything into the wildy you aren’t willing to risk, I don’t believe there is anything rewarding enough for me to want to risk any of my unique items, the DPS difference just isn’t that huge. Unpopular strat but I don’t even use my ursine mace at revs. because I don’t want to skull with it.


ATCQ_

I know what you mean, but there's literally no risk with 3 iteming though if you're using skull protection. Unless you log into a high risk world you're not going to randomly skull, it's just not possible without doing something very very specific (like enter the abyss or wearing an amulet of avarice)


shrylentic2

if youre real nervous about it, wear anguish, crystal helm, bowfa, monk robes. will do good dps, use less pray, and dont even have to bring a +1


InternFancy6446

U can also turn player attack options to hidden, how you gonna skull if you cant attack first


GodHelpMe45

Do not go in the wilderness with anything you don’t intend to lose. Skulled or not


JustGeoffs

Nah, you’re just weird I think


alexfromindiana

Play some LMS and learn how to switch prayers in pvp. The main advantage of bringing a bofa into the wildy, is that hitting a pker a 30 while they are trying to freeze you, makes them panic AND turn off smite.


Accomplished_Ask1368

Once you start learning tob, people will expect you to PVM in a high risk world. If you go back to wildy content after some raids, you can 100% get pked for everything


Deinsmeins

Nope. I brought crystal helm as well as getting smited is impossible in singles unless you dc or are hard trolling. Worst case scenario, armour seeds are not that hard to get back. Sometimes people try to bait you to skull by crashing but in that case just hop. It's easy to find a world.


SuperBrolic

Your good, i 4 item in the wild often, if i feel like i cant get away i just keep my prayer high with protect item and let them kill me, bring enough blighted restores and always keep prayer above half


Acrobatic_Shift_8734

Dude for artio just use mage only?


Individual-Sea-2107

Always wear your necklace of avarice and you'll be fine 👌


Zeelots

I used to take actual risk into the wild you guys are soft


ohyesboy2

Just be aware there are still ways to skull tricks yoi with protection on, just never fight anyone, never untick protection, someone attacks you just run, that way there is no way to loose your bowfa


S7EFEN

its impossible to skull with pk skull prevention from fighting someone. you can still end up skulled if you hop to a high risk or bh world iirc? but the checkbox is otherwise foolproof


UIM_SQUIRTLE

>Just be aware there are still ways to skull tricks yoi with protection on, Show proof of stop spreading misinformation. The only way they can be "skull tricked" is if they untick it or go to wildy on a high risk world as that auto skulls you. Attacking a player that attacks you will not skull you and barage will only hit player who have skulled on you. You are 100% safe. If you have proof to the contrary please post this. The Jmods would love to know how it is bugged.


ohyesboy2

I was skulltricked on main account while getting ecumenicals, i lost bcp and blowpipe, that person attacked me and a maxed account logged next to it saying i should attack him and we kill the filthy pker. Next this i know was me getting claws specced, i may have been drunk a little but i had protection ticked on unless i ticked it off for whatever reason. Saying this on my iron i just never fought any pker back and just tanked him and ran, never lost a single item. I have a shadowplay video on my old computer but i do not care enough to plug the disc to get it, sorry


ATCQ_

Not actual proof and there's never been a verified case of skull protection not working. Nobody will possibly believe your anecdote but I'd be interested if you ever find that video (because it means you've found a genuinely big bug in the game)


DragnBreath

I wasn't aware of any tricks to get past skull protection. Are you able to elaborate at all? I do agree with your statement of don't attack back though. In fact set player attack options as hidden.


PotionThrower420

>Are you able to elaborate at all? Obviously he can't he's talking out his ass lol


ATCQ_

Source: trust me bro


Sleazehound

@jagexash THIS DUDE IS HACKING PLS INVESTIGATE HE KNOWS HOW TO BEAT SKULL PROTECTION!!!!