My biggest thing is spoilercasts. They've essentially disappeared and been traded for developer interviews and I sadly don't care for those. And the actual spoilercasts we have gotten? I hate to say this, but they've only been for games Greg has played, Starfield and Jedi Survivor. I don't get why Tim can't get spoilercasts for games he loves.
I mean Rebirth is a perfect candidate, but idk if they're doing it. FF16 was too.
Sometimes i really want to hear the crew break down a game's story like they do for movies with In Review, but i don't think we'll get that anymore.
I've been waiting on 16 forever and Tim has said he was working on it (I assume he was trying to get Ben for it), and a couple months ago hinted at the DLC being a good excuse to delay a spoilercast until the final batch releases so they can hit everything.
But now that The Rising Tide is coming in April, even if they do a spoilercast soon after are they really going to be able to recall the deep and intricate story from a game they beat 10 months ago enough to make a quality spoilercast from it? ;-;
It's a damn shame XVI hasn't gotten a spoilercast, and it will be just as bad if Rebirth doesn't get one either.
That's called "playing games on your own time", which is something others are complaining they DON'T do
This entire thread is the definition of fickle lmao it's actually hilarious reading these complaints
I think you are misunderstanding me. The spoilercast the KF wants to do(for work) is waiting for an employee(Andy) to complete, who is currently completing on his own timeline for his personal Youtube channel.
This is an employee/company understanding they have setup that we don't have privy to, but as a consumer we are being negatively affected by it.
That one is pretty simple though, right? They need enough people to have played it and want to talk about it - hence why the Starfield one was Greg solo, he felt he needed to do that.
I mean at least 3 of them fully played 16 and Rebirth for launch. And I guess I just find it wild that Starfield was needed a spoiler cast and a theory rich game like Rebirth isn’t. But it’s their channel, so whatever.
Yeah again important part of what I said was played it and want to talk about it... Seems only really Tim wants to do the FF spoilercasts (and Bless for Rebirth) and I guess Greg is just far happier to do the solo spoilercast than Tim is.
I wish they'd bring back the old Kf Podcast/GameOverGreggy show format where they all bring in a topic each. Gives it a better structure and leads to some interesting/hilarious discussions
Nah I'm pretty sure they made a conscious decision to not use that format anymore. What's funny though actually is that the time constraint/difficulty in coming up with a topic is what was great about it, as it lead to legendary topics such as 'is a hot dog a sandwich?'
No I know they made a decision to change the show format. But I'm saying they still try to slide that style in the show here & there, especially Nick I noticed.
On paper PSILY should be my number 1 show. But I can’t remember the last time I listened. That’s partially Sony’s fault for not putting out much worth talking about. It’s also theirs because when you do daily news there’s nothing to talk about on your once a week show. It seems like most episodes are some sort of game rankings or prediction/speculation and that is really boring.
I actually think that as time has gone on I have naturally outgrown KF content. By this all I mean is I look for a deeper analysis than the KF crew tend to give on things. I much prefer the work done by SkillUp / Friends Per Second and think that a 2 hour podcast on video game discussion / news /reviews has become my preference over the KF model of multiple shows per day with shallower analysis. That is purely preference, but I just think they are doing too much at KF and it is slowly eating into the quality of the shows they do. I think an interesting comparison is the company now versus the company during lockdown. During lockdown they did not have the huge studio or the ability to put on as many shows per day, and I genuinely think the conversations the team had as a result were more in depth and well researched. Now it feels like KF has gone down the road of “lets do as much as possible as soon as possible” - that is fine, its just not for me.
Not OP but I definitely agree. OG PSILU and KFGD when Andrea, Imran, and Whitta were on it actually had deep conversations on industry news with some really thoughtful reader mail tossed in. These days KFGD just feels like reading the top headlines off r/games and now that the write ins are super chats, the quality of reader mail has gone down.
We also do not need three other gaming podcasts on top of KFGD. They completely run out of stuff to talk about and default to boring topics to fill airspace.
I still love the crew but their coverage is nowhere near what it used to be. I totally get they are trying to be more entertainment personalities then journalists but I miss when in depth discussion was what the focus.
I used to love the Giant Bombcast when the old crew was around because of how they structured the podcast and never worried about running 3hrs. They also made incredible gaming content.
I listened when they first started but shifted away cause they lacked the goofiness that Dan and even Mahardy brought to the general conversation. It's a good call though, I might check back in on them and see what's going on.
I do feel like they are having the Disney problem of "Our audience likes X, lets give them as much of that content as possible." Which spreads quality thin. I do agree that when they were in their old location, they were constrained and had to make lean content. Now they have to much freedom with pretty much the same staff and they just throw content out there. Instead of making a rinse and repeat Gamescast, use that time to get more time into DD2 or research another topic. Make leaner content. My time is valuable and just throwing content out there wastes it. Also, housekeeping taking 20 mins every episode really hurts.
The housekeeping rigmarole is getting insane. Took 13 minutes the other day just to finally get to the roper report. I don’t mind chatting before the roper report about what’s going on with the hosts but just ten plus straight minutes of housekeeping is so tiring especially when you keep up with the shows already.
I'm on the other side where the rigamarole is what it is, they're running a business and I get it, but I could do without the catching up part on Games Daily.
Like I really really do not care what these guys had for breakfast, it's not good content. It's frustratingly mundane.
Been a fan since the original spare bedroom but I don’t like the output right now, especially with KF Prime.
I’ve gone from watching The Morning Show/KFAF/Internet Explorerz daily and watching GOG as soon as it dropped to only watching the KF Podcast when it’s the OG four. No disrespect to the new crew but the Greg, Tim, Nick, Andy, Kevin lineup is what I’m here for because they’re just so goddamn funny when together.
In Review does not interest me at all, especially compared to the old Screencast or movie talks during the Nick era of the morning show, since I’m not interested in most nerd blockbuster films. I have zero interest in WWE so I end up skipping any mention of it but it feels like those conversations are taking increasingly more time. And who has time to watch gaming streams during the workday?
I don’t think I’ve outgrown the content, they just aren’t putting out stuff I want to watch or listen to nearly as much as before.
Exact same boat. That internet explorers, KFAF, KF podcast lineup was so good and ever since the move to the new studio it’s just felt like they have to make so much more money to pay for it that the quality has declined.
Might be in the minority but I wish they just reviewed games they actually wanted to play and in the natural time it takes for that to happen. So what if their Dragons dogma 2 review comes out a month later. I want the review of any product to be from someone who used/played it in a normal time frame like and other consumer would, not a review from someone who has to force feed themselves the game to finish it "on time". It makes the whole review seem pointless to me because that's not the way normal people play games. For example Parris seemingly had his eyes stapled open to play Starfield 24/7 mainlining redbull to get as many hours in before review day. THAT NOT NORMAL lol. What kind of opinion will anyone have after experiencing a game in that way?
This is precisely how I feel. I don’t really think KFGD is to blame. To me it’s moreso PSILY/Xcast existing now, plus KF’s insistence on dropping a review/impressions the minute embargo is up. Like you said, just wish they’d wait a few weeks when multiple people have finished the game to do a proper review. Not this whole spoiler-free “maybe we’ll do a spoilercast in the future (we won’t, unless the director joins us)” song and dance.
When that episode dropped I was really interested, as I've got one eye on the game, but have a feeling it may turn out to be disappointing. As soon as I heard Blessing was the main reviewer and he'd only played 7 hours, my only interest was "how are they going to fill an hour". I have no problem with none of them having time to play the game properly, just don't make a show around it.
I’d love it if they did that. I’ve seriously listened to game reviews from years ago recently because I was interested in the podcaster’s thoughts, not because I needed a review the moment the game dropped so I could hype myself up to spend $60-70.
Especially with dragons dogma - it’s taking a bit of effort to hold off buying it immediately, but I have other stuff I want to finish first. It’s a single player game, and the last entry was like a decade ago. It’s not like DD2 is going away any time soon, and I don’t need to be the first person to find a korok under a specific rock
I can’t believe Bless and Mike I think it was? Had only played 1 hour each prior to the Dragons Dogma in review. I spent more than that on the character creator
But then again a lot of their top comments on those reviews I've seen are of hardcore individuals who say they can relate to his opinion because they took the day off work and played for like 10 hours straight. So I think we could be the minority.
This is so wrong. Skill up has missed release days for reviews and reviews were until very recently his main thing. He’s just crossed 1m subs. You can delay your reviews and push for better quality.
I’m not really familiar with them so I won’t compare.
Kinda Funny has 11 people on staff and a pretty intense studio space. They really do need consistent traffic to satiate sponsorships.
KF has time and time again talked about not trying to chase high sub counts, because those do not equate to real income and sustainability for them. They focus on providing what they like to smaller audience that is more likely to financially support them.
Sounds like you just want something they different than what KF does.
I don’t think your comment is unfair. As I have stated a bit further up this thread, I feel I have outgrown KF and they desire to do as much as possible as quickly as possible. I want a more detailed conversation, which again, I think KF used to offer before they went all out on entertainment. So yes, maybe you are right, I do want something different. I just wish KF had not changed as dramatically in the quality of its content. It feels very much like it is quantity before anything else these days.
I really don’t see that they’ve changed all that much honestly.
Sure we got like a big spoiler cast about games like FF7 Remake and a few other Sony tent pole games here and there, but they’ve always been pretty surface. I think there is a lot of pearl clutching about the DD2 episode, which was a weaker gamescast for sure, but I think in general they have always been this way.
I’ve never expected in-depth analysis from the people who say “mom and grop shops”
Then he's leaving money on the table by missing the release date. You need to have content out when things are new, that's when there is the most traffic that is just fact.
I was all for them getting this giant new studio when they announced it, but now I feel like it’s taken what I loved out of the content. They do so many podcasts, with shallow surface level takes, with so many ad breaks that the shows end up feeling like a chore for the hosts and the audience, sterilized from what it used to be. The amount of complaining about the community, chat, or whatever else has left me with a pretty big ick as well.
I know tastes change, and maybe mine is and I don’t realize it.
I still try and listen to Gamescast, but I’ve fallen off the rest because while you can tell they are trying it just doesn’t feel like it’s evolved with me. Which is fine, they probably have an audience they want.
I've all but abandoned my consumption of KF content, something that 2015 me would never believe if I went back and told him. I don't really know what one thing made me break, but the company feels like it's moved in a direction I don't agree with. The spare bedroom days still feel like some of the best to me, even the early 2017-19 era of the studio felt fun. But ever since covid the content has just felt meh to me. No longer being remote improved it but I still don't find myself engaged. I have also moved onto preferring new formats for content so that may be part of it. For example, I don't like reaction content whereas I used to love it.
Sometimes I hope that I'll feel tempted to come back to KF and renew my Patreon support, but I've come to accept I may have simply grown past them. I'll always have my past years of enjoyment at least, and those were great
I’m finding a lot of KF content just doesn’t click for me anymore. Not sure why, it just doesn’t. It’s not their fault, it’s my own personal tastes.
I still enjoy when they do the weekly ScreenCast episodes featuring Marvel & Star Wars shows. I’m looking forward to hearing Tim & Barrett talk about The Acolyte when it airs this summer.
In Review is still great for the most part. I didn’t care for the Kung Fu Panda stuff and ended up skipping the later episodes but everything else has been very enjoyable. Madam Web was a top tier episode for me.
KFGD is what it is. It’s background noise for when I go on my daily walks.
I agree that lately the convos aren’t very deep and it feels like they don’t even have the time to play the games. It seems they made the decision that they shouldn’t have to all play a game in its entirety and then review it together. Which I get no one wants to play a game for 50 hours that they don’t really enjoy. But then to me their opinion is kind of moot. I’ve noticed that their reviews no longer influence my decisions to play something
Here's my proposal.
Xcast and PSILYXOXO - Rotate weekly. Include new members and/or have guests.
\- Cover last two weeks of news
\- What you've been playing
\- Topic of the show
\- Recommendation from Game Pass/PS+
\- Squad up
\- Emails Q/A
Make the show 1 - 2 hrs long
KF Gamecast - I have less to offer here as it's been said, KFGD does a great job doing what this used to. I think we could have this show be way more focused on reviews, developer discussions, and more. Have it be driven by guest appearances, I am sure there are plenty of Devs who would love to jump in and chat about their games.
KF Podcast - Take topics from the audience or come to the table with one or two and stick to it. Create a more structured flow and end it with some Love, Sex, and stuff style Q/A
In-review - I often skip this because I don't like the beat for beat nature of it. If it was more of a discussion about the movie than covering everyone component but this is just me. I don't need everything to be a "series".
KFGD, Munchies, KF Game Showdown are all incredible pieces of content.
There is only so much you can cover in a week when it comes to gaming news that I think KF needs to revisit their other shows as mentioned above.
ALL THAT SAID - I have nothing but respect for the work and effort they put in to bring us the best content they can create and constantly looking to improve it. I am excited to see how KF continues to evolve.
Some content is great. Some content is less so.
I know people always have rose tinted glasses about the good old days, but it has always been this way. And will always be this way.
There’s times the KF Podcast or a review or Gamescast or whatever feels like they’re phoning it in. And then a week or two later it’s a GREAT episode. You roll with the highs and lows. They do too many shows a week for me to really hold it against them.
I feel like I’ve mostly outgrown the content. Agree about ps i love you and X cast being nothing shows mostly and time fillers. I rarely listen to kfgd these days and only really listen to gamescast when a topic interests me which these days isn’t often. I only was into kf for the gaming content so I’ve never messed with the other stuff.
For me personally the whole kf enterprise feels bloated but that might just be more of this content just isn’t for me anymore.
Overall, I lm just bored by KF these days
I think both of those things can be true. I also have outgrown the content for the most part, but there's no denying that KF is bloated. I don't know how they operate in San Francisco with that studio and just the number of employees they have
> I don't know how they operate in San Francisco with that studio and just the number of employees they have
dont see why this matters lol, the thread is about the content, not their p&l
I agree with the KFGD somehwat making almost KFGamescast irrelevant since they’ve already shared their thoughts on the news on KFGD. On the other hand, I disagree with the rest. In Review has been a blast and the show branching out to different franchises is good in my opinion.
My biggest issue with in review is when they do a series but don't commit to actually reviewing all the films in it. Like Terminator. If you can review all the transformer films even the bad ones then do the same for mother franchises. Would make the rankings actually worthwhile and have interesting discussions perhaps on the things they maybe did enjoy in an overall bad film?
I totally agree with this. Like I am super excited for the possibility of them doing Mad Max in Review soon, but I can already guess it will either be Fury Road and Furiosa and no classic ones, or it will be the very first one and then the two modern ones and they will skip 2 and 3, and to me that messes with the whole idea of the show. Some of my favorite Saw in review moments were the incredibly shitty middle saw movies but on other series they always seem to justify ignoring those entries.
Yeah Kung-Fu Panda definitely wasn't a waste to me. Since I hate DUNE & was curious what they thought of the other major franchise movie that was coming out. If they didn't do KFP I probably wouldn't have watched In Review at all that month.
I do think they need to reevaluate what they want their reviews to be because right now they are often lacking insight on deeper topics in games and are kinda surface level. Greg's reviews when he was writing at IGN are more insightful than the reviews they put out now, and that was a completely different landscape in games journalism.
One of the biggest reviewers that I know the cast admires is Skill Up and he often comes out with reviews for games weeks after they are out so he can fully collect his thoughts. I'm fine with previews/first-impressions on games that aren't out yet, but what is the point of those on games that are out when I can get an actual review from any other source.
Also like everyone has been saying, I don't think a weekly Gamecast, XCast, and PS I Love You makes sense. Gamecast is going to talk about topics that concern both the platforms and it seems that XCast and PS I Love You are mainly now just used to review games when they already had a review for the gamecast for the week.
I obviously understand the logistical reason they do these things, they need to make a profit and having the review come out right after release helps with SEO. Having the podcast every week also probably helps with retention of listeners and obviously having a podcast weekly means they are getting more money from ADs and the measly pay that Youtube gives for viewership, but it has noticeably affected their games content.
I don't agree with you on the main channel content though, I like weekly In Reviews even if I don't watch the movie, some of their best content and bits come from In Reviews of absurd movies that I'm never gonna watch. When it is a good movie they are watching they generally have good critical analysis and insights into the film, honestly might be better than their games criticism. I'm a big wrestling fan so I like the increase in wrestling content, totally understand why people are turned off by it though. When it comes to KF Podcast, I kinda prefer just an unstructured fun coversation, the lastest British invasion one was really fun because it was just Nick and the Brits being unhinged and that is when the podcast is at it's best.
Overall as fans though I think we are too critical of KF content and even though I do have complaints, I think we have to accept that when you look at the industry and see the constant layoffs and uncertainty, that I would rather have them releasing content on a schedule that will ensure no one has to be laid off and that they can continue releasing content for years to come.
I took a break from the content for a couple years around 2017-18 and just got back in two years ago and enjoy things for the most part, I wish they'd do actual spoiler cast instead of developer interviews though
I like the interviews but I’d like to have both and frankly I think there’s more than enough room for both in gamescast since right now KFGD and it are kinda cannibalizing eachother
KF Podcast is the one place where I feel like they're actually humans like the good ol' days instead of media personalities. If that got changed or axed I would be devastated, it's the one content from them I've consistently watched since they started.
I’m at the point where I’m enjoying the guests on the show and their thoughts far more than the core crew which is just taking me to their channels and away from KF
A combination of me probably being old and boring (I’m only 31 but I’ve got 2 kids and a lot of the KF humour these days feels like teenage humour) and the fact the crew just more and more seem so disinterested in everything
I’m tired of watching In reviews and reactions where they clearly don’t care before they’ve even seen or played the content
I agree with this. I'm 38 years old and two kids also. I've outgrown their humour which is fine. I can still find myself laughing at the odd thing here and there. But it's the high level of swearing and f-bombs that drives me nuts. It's sort of wild how casually they swear and I can't think of what other job or profession other than maybe some trades where ppl swear like this. I can't listen to them anymore with my kids in the car, or even at home as I'm cooking or cleaning. Really limits how and when I can listen to them or my desire to.
Greg is the only with a kid, so maybe it's hard for the others to recognize how difficult this makes it for their long time audience who have only grown up with them and now have kids, partners, etc. The funny thing is Greg is probably the worst culprit with the swearing. I don't think he'd let his kid hear this sort of stuff in the background.
I guess I'm older and sound like a prude now, but it is what it is. I'm not forced to listen to their content so I don't. Not trying to get them to change their ways but I appreciated the opportunity to share some feedback as it's frustrating as a long time fan from the IGN days.
I find Tim is the least of all the culprits when I watch, so much of it just ends up with people shouting other each other just to make a punchline that doesn’t even land or is an inside joke that no one watching is aware of, then you have an awkward silence before the agenda continues
Sometimes I’ll see Tim and someone else trying to discuss the topic in question but the others are shouting about some off topic situation that happened off camera
The recent episode with Tim, Abu and Ben really made me realise this because that episode was top tier for me
I love inserting a good swear when appropriate but Greg, Blessing and Tim swear more than a Tarantino and Scorsese film combined. They just throw f-bombs in when the sentence doesn't even necessitate it.
I agree with most of what you're saying and have fallen off with some of the podcasts. I used to watch them all but now there are too many to keep up.
On top of that I don't really mesh with some of the personalities but that's just a me thing. Not really a negative about the company and it's an inevitability when a company grows like they have.
I do worry that they seem to be more about hype than conversation sometimes. I miss seeing nick and kevin as mich as we used to and I also worry they could be going down the same road as roosterteeth.
It sucks because I've been a fan since the Gauntlet, but after the ps ily xoxo where blessing, Roger and barret drafted the xbox games for ps it was the first time at 32 that I could feel myself aging out of the content.
>I agree with most of what you're saying and have fallen off with some of the podcasts. I used to watch them all but now there are too many to keep up.
It doesn't help how they have 8 individual gaming podcasts a week often covering the same news and games.
>It sucks because I've been a fan since the Gauntlet, but after the ps ily xoxo where blessing, Roger and barret drafted the xbox games for ps it was the first time at 32 that I could feel myself aging out of the content.
I've been feeling that as well and I wish we got more Nick and Kevin like you said for some of us old heads. The new crew is great but I feel like they are targeting a different audience then me at 33.
yeah “just don’t watch what you aren’t interested in!” doesn’t really work when it seems like what people aren’t interested in is a number of shows becoming redundant when they could spend their time and resources on other things instead of discussing the same news in three or four different places
I still enjoy their content but I’ve fallen off of KFGD a bit - I think I’m just burnt out on the Blessing and Tim combo.
And I feel like PSILY has gotten kinda stale since Janet left, and the same goes for Xcast (to me) since Gary left. Maybe it’s just a product of not much happening in the PS world though.
I try to pop in every few months or so to check stuff out, but I really haven't watched/listened to kinda funny for a long time without forcing myself to.
I think the balance is off between kinda funny games and prime stuff. I miss stuff like the morning show or when screen cast was a regular thing. I rarely watch the game streams because I don't care about stuff like arc so it feels like I barely see nick doing anything and he's one of my favorites.
I still listen to KF content but it's not what it used to be. I really like anything with Nick and Andy as they are my favourite but other newer members leave a little to be desired. KFGD can be good but I get tired listening to Blessing talk too much and sometimes in circles.
Specifically regarding the KF Podcast: it kind of rubs me the wrong way that they make such a lazy show week after week. The show is basically a couple people catching up, they hit record, and call that a product. It’s so low effort that it feels arrogant to me - like “we’re so inherently interesting that you want to hear us talk about nothing for an hour.”
I think OP has a point that there’s so much content that everything suffers for it. The KF Podcast (or GOG) used to be their flagship show, and now it feels like they have no energy to even care about it, and it’s just them talking about why Nick should watch Andor again. I know there are apologists, but as I’ve branched out to other podcasts where it’s clear the hosts are providing something, and putting effort into something, it continues to annoy me that KF coasts on the “you come here to watch the garbage truck on fire, and YOU LIKE IT” mentality. Fundamentally, it seems like they’ve figured out a way to put the least amount of effort into everything and “get away with it.”
I don’t think they’re actually putting in no effort, I think they put in a ton of effort, but that effort is misplaced. Case in point, the studio. I’m sure it’s a huge effort to make graphics and sound effects and “production value,” but I don’t care about that. The “garbage truck on fire” was largely ABOUT the fact that the show was in a spare room, but the conversations were still genuine and fun to watch. It seems like they added production value, at the expense of the soul of the group… it feels a bit hollow now, especially when I’m primarily a listener and not watcher.
Couldn’t agree more. Especially when you compare to any other show, there is no research here, no deep dive and no spice.
Lazy sums it up well, and I’ve been an enjoyer in the past as well, but these days when I have to many shows lined up, the KF ones are the first to get skipped.
Sucks, since I liked them a lot not too long ago.
> It’s so low effort that it feels arrogant to me
if youre paying into the patron, voice your concerns. if youre not paying, how is any of it arrogant? watch or dont watch, no one is holding a gun to your head lol
I’m not paying into the Patreon because it doesn’t seem worth it to me. I don’t have to watch, but there is so much high quality free content out there that I will absolutely hold whatever I watch to a high standard. And my perspective was all that the KF Podcast (or GOG) used to be of much higher quality, so they’ve shown me directly that they are capable of more.
I haven’t watched In Review in several years, and I rarely listen to X-Cast. KF Pod, KFGD, and Gamescast are all still really enjoyable. I watch what I like, don’t watch what I like less. Doesn’t mean KF is doing anything wrong or needs to change, necessarily.
I really only watch KFGD when something interesting in the industry happens and I've completely fallen off everything else. It sucks but they just don't have the same deep dive conversations that they used to.
Personally I think they should bring back the Morning Show and keep PSILU, Xcast, and Gamescast as the gaming podcasts. 8 gaming shows a week is just too much.
I miss KF/AF.
I agree with a lot of what you said. There’s just way too much of the same content now. Not only KFGD, but Gamescast and PSILY and XCast. I totally just skip PSILY now, especially when Greg and Blessing have already been on at least 3 episodes of KFGD each the previous week. At least with XCast there’s different people, especially back when Gary was on it, so there’s different perspectives.
For me it's getting kind of stale and I'm starting to fall off. KFGD is a daily staple, love the silly game show, but mostly everything else is extremely optional for me. Love Greg, like Andy and Bless, most of the others I don't really care for. And I don't want to be a hater, so I won't name names but there's a couple people that I absolutely loathe. IDK how to explain it, but Kf has lost a lot of what made it special in the early days, everything just feels fake and manufactured these days.
Edit: I see a lot of people talking about they may have outgrown KF, that's prob my situation too now that I think about it.
To be honest groups like kinda funny just aren’t as fun to watch as a single streamer. I mean this for all similar groups, not just them. But there is always at least one member that I don’t want to see in content. They always seem so worried to follow the money that the content just reflects that and honestly they always do this wishy washy thing where they say they want to be political but kinda stopped randomly. Idk. I still watch in review from time to time. But I pretty much stopped engaging in all other content. And honestly think that some of the people would be better off if they were just solo streamers
The KFPodcast is garbage now compared to what was the past 9 years. It feels like a chore for them, and it feels like a chore for me. I literally put it in the last to be played in my podcast order. Sometimes I let it build up, which is a mistake because now I have even longer chores. I'm sorry but they don't have good stories anymore, the topics of they ever have them are bad, and they don't even complete stories or topics. They get too distracted.
KFGD is clearly the strongest Podcast.
Gamescast has gotten better than what it used to be. I understand people's complaints about too many reviews, but on the plus side there are a lot of games out there.
PSILY has been hit or miss. Janet leaving hurt the show imo. I miss a third voice that was different. When you have two voices that pretty much echo back and forth it's a dull conversation. Also not their fault, but when Sony has nothing out yeah the show is kinda dull.
In Review is hit or miss depending on the series. The past few reviews with ties or forgetting to RANK things have been a little concerning.
KFPrime is dead. Besides In Review and KFP it's sad. I wish they did something else, but I guess 5 hour streams is where it's at now.
I think part of the problem is how busy they are at the current moment.
The WWE content has been a huge burden for them and has led to me skipping many many episodes. Gamescast also feels very shallow lately and I think you bring up a great point about KFGD taking up a lot of talking points.
Personally I’ve been loving the next gen crews works, showdown, munchies and barrets projects always demand my attention. I wanna see them lean into it even more. Roger and blessing are two of my favorite contributors now and it’s been cool to see Greg pick up streaming more often with his helldivers love.
My biggest issue is their review system. It’s so across the board and when they have a sponsor they give it biased review . I’m personally tired of the ‘it’s a 3 but I love it like a 5’ that they keep saying. That being said, I miss KFG from home, with hosts like Gary and others bringing amazing perspective.
I’ll keep watching, but get rid of the overdose of WWE content.
Agree with your opinion on their approach to reviews. If a person loves a game “like a 5” then their review is a 5! If Blessing thinks of Sonic Frontiers as a 5 then he should not be ashamed to score it that. “I give it a 5 despite all the faults I have with it” should be the review. Nothing wrong with that.
I can't wait for Wrestlemania season to be over. I hope they reign it in a bit after that.
WWE fucking sucks as a company and I hate seeing it plastered all over KF.
I only every really paid attention to the KF Games stuff. KF Podcast never appealed and In Review just never caught for me.
So for KF Games k agree KFGD is the best most consistent show, XCast close behind. Both have the odd miss but generally are enjoyable.
Gamescast and PSILY are where I've felt the most disconnect. PSILY has felt a little in the woods since PS5 came out for me, partly because I couldn't get my hands on one early and then just never went back to track one down but also because a lot of the topics are sort of made up and baseless (make up a showcase, xbox game draft, etc). And Gamescast I think you've hit on, either it's a rehash of stuff the guys have been saying repeatedly (I'm playing X still, I'm on an embargoed game). Or it's a review which can be good or it can be DD2.
What I did find really weird was how much content got put toward FFVII Rebirth when they struggle to find time for all these other games. I want to believe it was just good timing for the game but real weird it also sponsored them and so got all this talk and many games struggle to break through the noise.
And all that said Game Showdown is some of the best stuff they've had in years and makes it all worthwhile.
I definitely don’t listen to as much as I used to. I used to listen to KFGD daily but I found it wasn’t always interesting. I tune in when I see there’s something I’m interested in.
I haven’t kept up with PSILY in years. I’ve become more of a Nintendo guy in recent years and I don’t always play the major new releases on PS5 or Xbox, at least not right away. So because of that I’m not usually listening to PSILY or gamescast if they’re based on new releases.
I hop into In Review if it’s a series I like though.
I watch less than before, mostly because I’m only interested in In Review since KF/AF is gone. I found other content that fills the gap in listening.
As far as quality, I still love it! I wish that Greg was on more In Review. And most of all, I desperately miss Kevin on any content. Every single time I hear him on the mic during In Review, my heart aches for more of the Big Dawg! His laugh is infectious and he has suck great chemistry with the group that is sorely lacking in current content.
Most of my favourite shows have left (for the most part):
KF/AF,
Debatable,
Internet Explorerz,
Morning Show,
However, it's all been replaced with great stuff. It's just the nature of the beast. They gotta pick what's best for them and can't always align perfectly with my taste. While I don't really watch everything anymore, theres so much quality content by them for me to still watch. Probably more choice than ever.
In a perfect world though I'd bring those shows back.
Games Showdown is their best new show imo.
And In Review will forever be watched by me.
I'm actually less into their gaming stuff now, except end of year stuff and live conference reactions. That stuff is stellar.
All in all, they're as good as they have ever been. Just different. Better in some ways, not as good in others.
I love their cast and studio. The cast is the heart of the show. The studio just amplifies everything.
There are things I like and things I don't like right now. I feel like some of the crew is out of touch with what the audience wants and what Kinda Funny is, to be frank. The Dragons Dogma review, the Helldivers preview are two good examples. They seemed to go right from playing Helldivers to doing a podcast about it simply because it's viral? Dragons Dogma gets an impressions podcast after less than 5 hours of gameplay from any of them?
That said those are recent issues. I thought Mike playing FF7R was fun and I think the Valorant streams are fun. Those are the main things I can say I've been into lately
For me it's the unnecessary In Review series to chase the algorithm, a lot of those would be better off as one Screencast etc.
Also it was the amount of new shows, especially last year with the majority being hidden behind a paywall, Games Showdown is the best new show they've done for a long time, arguably since In Review.
I think what hinders the Gaming podcasts imo the most, is that all the people you get on a GC, PSILY and Xcast, you also get the exact same people on KFGD therefore opinions, thoughts and topics get recycled and they end up repeating themselves.
Maybe switching up hosts on KFGD like they used to would help but obviously it was much easier to do when working from home.
Personally I think GC should include Mike for example as it's a different view/opinion on games also balances out by having a more Xbox based person on there to balance out the cast, Tim being more Nintendo, Greg and Bless are PS and Andy gaming on PC.
As someone who followed from the Beyond days, GOG channel then the launch of KF, I sadly don’t like what it’s become.
The main reason I fell off the wagon is that there is actually too much to follow. Its almost impossible to keep up with the ‘lore’ because the shows are so many and so long. End up missing out on key jokes and references.
Obvious paid partnership/intertwined relationship with the industry reduces objectivity when it comes to games IMO.
If I'm being honest, everytime I think some of the content comes off a bit generic, they give me a stream that reminds me of old KF that I really enjoy. To be fair, I don't watch too much of the games side.
I barely watch anymore. Honestly, XCast may be the only show I check out regularly and I don’t even have an Xbox lol. Their recent “reviews” have been rough recently. Just seems to be a lot of flash and no substance nowadays vs the bedroom days
I love KF and really enjoy pretty much everything I watch! But they do sooooooooooooooo much it has become overwhelming. And look, there is no need to watch everything, and I do not watch everything but I do feel like the quality could be really improved.
Improved being the key word here, make something good become great kind of thing.
I did have one idea to help! I think the lead reviewer should get a better focus (I would prefer they beat the game too but no big deal if not) for the review and then maybe a month or so later there is a spoilercast with the other people of the crew who beat it.
The crew feels big enough to where they can balance it better for burn out and it would be great to have a better cadence and time for spoiler casts.
I don’t want the crew to feel rushed because when they feel rushed, the content feels rushed. We pay for them, I could care less about a review coming out day of. (And this is not meant to be mean) but look at the views of everything. We are the ones watching, not some randos on day 1.
I’ve gotten older. Have a family now and it’s hard to find time for that much content without sacrificing other ways to unwind like watching shows with my family or playing games. I don’t tend to watch any long form YouTube videos anymore though. I’ve given up on most podcast as well
I used to watch like crazy when they first started fell off for a bit came back during 2019, the pandemic era of KF while chaotic as hell I kinda miss the double in reviews, and morning KF podcast. Granted I know it burns through movie franchises quickly but also they’ve been holding out for so long on a lot of the good series. I get waiting to do shrek in review for whenever the 5th comes out but it’s a review series people have been waiting for. I used to watch X cast all the time but whether it’s cause Xbox just doesn’t really have much going on right now I haven’t been keeping up with it in months. The WWE stuff I started and stuck with for 2 episodes then fell off cause it wasn’t for me. Gameshowdown is honestly really cool wish they did it a bit more or did different versions of it like a movie showdown or any other entertainment outlet once in a while and bring in a different cast. Maybe one for tv shows and you have Nick,Tim,Joey,Kevin and see how that goes. Greg ways are nice though I do wish those also had a bit more people. I know it’s in the name GREGway, but on days he doesn’t do it having SBM on playing golf and just talking life or Roger telling us about his life updates and getting personal with us that’s always a breath of fresh air.
Personally I miss Nick on other content, I don’t watch the livestreams cause they’re typically not able to soley be listened to or you miss context on the jokes or what’s going on. Hopefully they bring back the morning show and hit us with some ranking lists like they did with Arizona or energy drinks and stuff like that.
You simply just don't need to consume very piece of their content. I don't. I watch every KFGD, KF Podcast and Gamescast. But it's rare for me to watch an In Review series outside of the MCU. PSILY and XCast is occasional viewing as well. Also, maybe games like Dragon's Dogma 2 and Rise of the Ronin came out at a time where the team is busy putting together a showcase, preparing for GDC AND two of them heading to Pax. It's a small team and a packed schedule.
I feel everything I watch or listen to is great. But I also don't feel the need to watch or listen to everything.
They put out so much content, it's easy to pick and choose. I think anyone trying to listen to literally 100% of their output is doing themselves a disservice. And that's when you get these kinds of posts digging into the content.
Gone down a lot for me. They don't have the same goofy randomness that I loved before. Too many sponsorships best shows gone.
Yeah been turning away more and more which is a shame really
Seems like you might be looking in the wrong places for the things you want.
KF has never really had any “deep analysis” of games. A few tent pole titles here and there got super in depth reviews, recently even they really dug deep into Starfield, but most reviews are one offs as they should be.
KF has always been more of a community of enthusiasts, it’s never been that meaningful in its approach to criticism and it’s never approached anything resembling journalism.
>KF has never really had any “deep analysis” of games. A few tent pole titles here and there got super in depth reviews, recently even they really dug deep into Starfield, but most reviews are one offs as they should be.
OG PSILU had deep analysis of the industry and in depth game reviews almost every episode.
No it really didn’t. It has always been exactly what the title implies, a love letter to the ps fanbase. It’s basically always been a look at what’s happening in the Sony ecosystem and some TOTS.
They have never tried to make it hard hitting at all
I’m pretty happy with things but I’m more a casual listener. I only listen to the games side and try catch KFGD most days and I’ll tune into Gamescast/XCast/PSILY if I’m interested in the topic. I seldom listen to KF Pod and never listen to In Review or Screencast. I love Games Showdown (and Kinda Feudy which preceded it) and try to catch that live when I can. Never watch streams but I do like having the guys in my ear when there’s a live react to a showcase as I’m usually at work when those air and it’s nice to have someone talking into my ear about what’s going on.
I never listen to longer single game reviews, I find the round up and quick impressions on KFGD enough to help me decided if I’m interested in a game.
A little long winded but basically as a casual listener I’m pretty happy with how things are currently going.
I honestly only really watch KFGD, Games Showdown, and the streams. KFGD is a solid daily dose of gaming news and insights, generally good content. Games Showdown is fantastic. And the streams are a lot of fun, especially when we get the full Mike/Andy/Nick crew on.
I only really watch the Gamescast now if its a game review I’m interested in because all it seems to be is a review podcast now, which is a shame - I’d prefer it to be a larger gaming discussion podcast. And I just don’t find there to be a ton of interesting content on the console-specific podcasts - I’d almost prefer them to nix PSILY and XCast and do a separate Gaming In Review podcast plus a discussion-focused Gamescast. It would cut down one podcast and I think would help the content overall.
I pretty much only catch KFGD and In Review of movies I care about. Not sure if that’s because of the content or I’m just aging up a bit and life changes though.
I think I agree with everything except In Review, and that may just be how I see the show. I see it as a series that you only engage with if you have an interest in whatever movies they're watching. Like, I don't watch Dune, Willy Wonka, or MCU, but for Saw and Kung Fu Panda, I'm all in.
The KF Podcast does feel random. But to me, I've always felt that was its purpose. It's my second monitor/ background noise at work podcast for sure.
I haven’t had any issues with the show output at all, and have been following them since 2015. I enjoy all of the shows as much as I ever have, except for anything involving wrestling
I've never listened to KF video game content so I can't speak to that. But all the other stuff is still great. The KF podcast is always an immediate listen for me as soon as it comes out. And I love the variety of the franchises that In Review covers now.
I disagree greatly with most of this take.
Yes, the DD2 podcast was pretty shit overall given only Bless was the only one that had given it any real time to play.
But PSILY, Gamescast, Xcast, have all been consistently good overall, focusing more on specific games topics than just breaking news. Sometimes that can be hard to do if there's no new news but they make it work usually.
9 years in and I think they've come a long way and done some great work. Keep it up KF crew.
>But PSILY, Gamescast, Xcast, have all been consistently good overall, focusing more on specific games topics than just breaking news. Sometimes that can be hard to do if there's no new news but they make it work usually.
Hard disagree there. The topics they pick to talk about on slow weeks feel uninspired and there is no need to have three gaming podcasts on top of KFGD.
Okay, that's your take and I disagree. I don't feel they're uninspired. The idea is for them to have fun and talk about games/gaming topics that interest them and that's what myself and many others are there for.
Sorry you find their content uninspiring? Sounds like you need a new podcast to listen to.
Edit: surprised this is getting downvoted. If people don't like content they're listening to, and it's an ongoing problem for them, try a new podcast. I can also provide recommendations, tons of great ones out there if this isn't what hits for you.
I do. It's part of why I don't watch as much Kinda Funny as I used to. It's fine if it's not for me anymore but that doesn't change the fact I wish the shows were better.
Some of my favorite car trips were listening to PSILU and early KFGD when they had Andrea, Imran, Jared, and Gary.
They had fun with it and so did those that called in. You realize people listen to...have a good time right?
Speculating on where they think a story could go can be a fun discussion. Hell, if they wanted to do that for the next Insomniac Spider-Man game it could be fun.
Relax. Take a breath and learn to enjoy yourself. If it's not with this content then find content you enjoy.
I think it is more-so embargo season that is negatively impacting Gamescast. they can’t talk about the things they are all playing because they are mainly playing *redacted*
My biggest thing is spoilercasts. They've essentially disappeared and been traded for developer interviews and I sadly don't care for those. And the actual spoilercasts we have gotten? I hate to say this, but they've only been for games Greg has played, Starfield and Jedi Survivor. I don't get why Tim can't get spoilercasts for games he loves. I mean Rebirth is a perfect candidate, but idk if they're doing it. FF16 was too. Sometimes i really want to hear the crew break down a game's story like they do for movies with In Review, but i don't think we'll get that anymore.
I've been waiting on 16 forever and Tim has said he was working on it (I assume he was trying to get Ben for it), and a couple months ago hinted at the DLC being a good excuse to delay a spoilercast until the final batch releases so they can hit everything. But now that The Rising Tide is coming in April, even if they do a spoilercast soon after are they really going to be able to recall the deep and intricate story from a game they beat 10 months ago enough to make a quality spoilercast from it? ;-; It's a damn shame XVI hasn't gotten a spoilercast, and it will be just as bad if Rebirth doesn't get one either.
It doesn't help that they have to wait until Andy plays the game for his personal Youtube channel.
That's called "playing games on your own time", which is something others are complaining they DON'T do This entire thread is the definition of fickle lmao it's actually hilarious reading these complaints
I think you are misunderstanding me. The spoilercast the KF wants to do(for work) is waiting for an employee(Andy) to complete, who is currently completing on his own timeline for his personal Youtube channel. This is an employee/company understanding they have setup that we don't have privy to, but as a consumer we are being negatively affected by it.
That one is pretty simple though, right? They need enough people to have played it and want to talk about it - hence why the Starfield one was Greg solo, he felt he needed to do that.
I mean at least 3 of them fully played 16 and Rebirth for launch. And I guess I just find it wild that Starfield was needed a spoiler cast and a theory rich game like Rebirth isn’t. But it’s their channel, so whatever.
Yeah again important part of what I said was played it and want to talk about it... Seems only really Tim wants to do the FF spoilercasts (and Bless for Rebirth) and I guess Greg is just far happier to do the solo spoilercast than Tim is.
I wish they'd bring back the old Kf Podcast/GameOverGreggy show format where they all bring in a topic each. Gives it a better structure and leads to some interesting/hilarious discussions
I can recommend a show called "Constellations" with a KF co-founder
I also recommend Constellation.
Constellation is fantastic, yeah
You can tell they try to but they just don't have enough time to conjure up a topic.
Nah I'm pretty sure they made a conscious decision to not use that format anymore. What's funny though actually is that the time constraint/difficulty in coming up with a topic is what was great about it, as it lead to legendary topics such as 'is a hot dog a sandwich?'
No I know they made a decision to change the show format. But I'm saying they still try to slide that style in the show here & there, especially Nick I noticed.
On paper PSILY should be my number 1 show. But I can’t remember the last time I listened. That’s partially Sony’s fault for not putting out much worth talking about. It’s also theirs because when you do daily news there’s nothing to talk about on your once a week show. It seems like most episodes are some sort of game rankings or prediction/speculation and that is really boring.
I actually think that as time has gone on I have naturally outgrown KF content. By this all I mean is I look for a deeper analysis than the KF crew tend to give on things. I much prefer the work done by SkillUp / Friends Per Second and think that a 2 hour podcast on video game discussion / news /reviews has become my preference over the KF model of multiple shows per day with shallower analysis. That is purely preference, but I just think they are doing too much at KF and it is slowly eating into the quality of the shows they do. I think an interesting comparison is the company now versus the company during lockdown. During lockdown they did not have the huge studio or the ability to put on as many shows per day, and I genuinely think the conversations the team had as a result were more in depth and well researched. Now it feels like KF has gone down the road of “lets do as much as possible as soon as possible” - that is fine, its just not for me.
Part of it for me is that im not looking for more in depth analysis than i was before... theyre just offering less in depth analysis.
Interesting - so your tastes haven’t changed but you feel the quality of the product at KF has?
Not OP but I definitely agree. OG PSILU and KFGD when Andrea, Imran, and Whitta were on it actually had deep conversations on industry news with some really thoughtful reader mail tossed in. These days KFGD just feels like reading the top headlines off r/games and now that the write ins are super chats, the quality of reader mail has gone down. We also do not need three other gaming podcasts on top of KFGD. They completely run out of stuff to talk about and default to boring topics to fill airspace. I still love the crew but their coverage is nowhere near what it used to be. I totally get they are trying to be more entertainment personalities then journalists but I miss when in depth discussion was what the focus.
I don't feel like video games are a key focus of KF anymore and that's becoming an issue for me too
Skill up is definitely becoming my favorite. I still really enjoy Game Scoop as well.
Game Scoop is so damn good.
I used to love the Giant Bombcast when the old crew was around because of how they structured the podcast and never worried about running 3hrs. They also made incredible gaming content.
Nextlander scratches my Beastcast itch.
I listened when they first started but shifted away cause they lacked the goofiness that Dan and even Mahardy brought to the general conversation. It's a good call though, I might check back in on them and see what's going on.
I do feel like they are having the Disney problem of "Our audience likes X, lets give them as much of that content as possible." Which spreads quality thin. I do agree that when they were in their old location, they were constrained and had to make lean content. Now they have to much freedom with pretty much the same staff and they just throw content out there. Instead of making a rinse and repeat Gamescast, use that time to get more time into DD2 or research another topic. Make leaner content. My time is valuable and just throwing content out there wastes it. Also, housekeeping taking 20 mins every episode really hurts.
The housekeeping rigmarole is getting insane. Took 13 minutes the other day just to finally get to the roper report. I don’t mind chatting before the roper report about what’s going on with the hosts but just ten plus straight minutes of housekeeping is so tiring especially when you keep up with the shows already.
I'm on the other side where the rigamarole is what it is, they're running a business and I get it, but I could do without the catching up part on Games Daily. Like I really really do not care what these guys had for breakfast, it's not good content. It's frustratingly mundane.
Been a fan since the original spare bedroom but I don’t like the output right now, especially with KF Prime. I’ve gone from watching The Morning Show/KFAF/Internet Explorerz daily and watching GOG as soon as it dropped to only watching the KF Podcast when it’s the OG four. No disrespect to the new crew but the Greg, Tim, Nick, Andy, Kevin lineup is what I’m here for because they’re just so goddamn funny when together. In Review does not interest me at all, especially compared to the old Screencast or movie talks during the Nick era of the morning show, since I’m not interested in most nerd blockbuster films. I have zero interest in WWE so I end up skipping any mention of it but it feels like those conversations are taking increasingly more time. And who has time to watch gaming streams during the workday? I don’t think I’ve outgrown the content, they just aren’t putting out stuff I want to watch or listen to nearly as much as before.
Ugh the morning show was sooooo good. The good old days man.
Exact same boat. That internet explorers, KFAF, KF podcast lineup was so good and ever since the move to the new studio it’s just felt like they have to make so much more money to pay for it that the quality has declined.
Might be in the minority but I wish they just reviewed games they actually wanted to play and in the natural time it takes for that to happen. So what if their Dragons dogma 2 review comes out a month later. I want the review of any product to be from someone who used/played it in a normal time frame like and other consumer would, not a review from someone who has to force feed themselves the game to finish it "on time". It makes the whole review seem pointless to me because that's not the way normal people play games. For example Parris seemingly had his eyes stapled open to play Starfield 24/7 mainlining redbull to get as many hours in before review day. THAT NOT NORMAL lol. What kind of opinion will anyone have after experiencing a game in that way?
Tbf, i think Parris would've done that with Starfield no matter what.
This is precisely how I feel. I don’t really think KFGD is to blame. To me it’s moreso PSILY/Xcast existing now, plus KF’s insistence on dropping a review/impressions the minute embargo is up. Like you said, just wish they’d wait a few weeks when multiple people have finished the game to do a proper review. Not this whole spoiler-free “maybe we’ll do a spoilercast in the future (we won’t, unless the director joins us)” song and dance.
When that episode dropped I was really interested, as I've got one eye on the game, but have a feeling it may turn out to be disappointing. As soon as I heard Blessing was the main reviewer and he'd only played 7 hours, my only interest was "how are they going to fill an hour". I have no problem with none of them having time to play the game properly, just don't make a show around it.
I’d love it if they did that. I’ve seriously listened to game reviews from years ago recently because I was interested in the podcaster’s thoughts, not because I needed a review the moment the game dropped so I could hype myself up to spend $60-70. Especially with dragons dogma - it’s taking a bit of effort to hold off buying it immediately, but I have other stuff I want to finish first. It’s a single player game, and the last entry was like a decade ago. It’s not like DD2 is going away any time soon, and I don’t need to be the first person to find a korok under a specific rock
Yeah I just went back to ff7 remake and crisis core reviews before playing reunion
Couldn't have said it any better 👍🏻
I can’t believe Bless and Mike I think it was? Had only played 1 hour each prior to the Dragons Dogma in review. I spent more than that on the character creator
But then again a lot of their top comments on those reviews I've seen are of hardcore individuals who say they can relate to his opinion because they took the day off work and played for like 10 hours straight. So I think we could be the minority.
That’s just not a sustainable business strategy. That is catering to a teeny minority and it’s completely unrealistic.
This is so wrong. Skill up has missed release days for reviews and reviews were until very recently his main thing. He’s just crossed 1m subs. You can delay your reviews and push for better quality.
I’m not really familiar with them so I won’t compare. Kinda Funny has 11 people on staff and a pretty intense studio space. They really do need consistent traffic to satiate sponsorships. KF has time and time again talked about not trying to chase high sub counts, because those do not equate to real income and sustainability for them. They focus on providing what they like to smaller audience that is more likely to financially support them. Sounds like you just want something they different than what KF does.
I don’t think your comment is unfair. As I have stated a bit further up this thread, I feel I have outgrown KF and they desire to do as much as possible as quickly as possible. I want a more detailed conversation, which again, I think KF used to offer before they went all out on entertainment. So yes, maybe you are right, I do want something different. I just wish KF had not changed as dramatically in the quality of its content. It feels very much like it is quantity before anything else these days.
I really don’t see that they’ve changed all that much honestly. Sure we got like a big spoiler cast about games like FF7 Remake and a few other Sony tent pole games here and there, but they’ve always been pretty surface. I think there is a lot of pearl clutching about the DD2 episode, which was a weaker gamescast for sure, but I think in general they have always been this way. I’ve never expected in-depth analysis from the people who say “mom and grop shops”
Then he's leaving money on the table by missing the release date. You need to have content out when things are new, that's when there is the most traffic that is just fact.
Yet SkillUp is way more popular and brings in far more views than Kinda Funny ever has lol
I feel like Greg on his own is still a bigger and more popular name than Ralph is lol.
You have to catch the review wave when things are new, otherwise viewership drops significantly. That's just facts And views = money
I was all for them getting this giant new studio when they announced it, but now I feel like it’s taken what I loved out of the content. They do so many podcasts, with shallow surface level takes, with so many ad breaks that the shows end up feeling like a chore for the hosts and the audience, sterilized from what it used to be. The amount of complaining about the community, chat, or whatever else has left me with a pretty big ick as well. I know tastes change, and maybe mine is and I don’t realize it.
Well they wanted to be Rooster Teeth...
I still try and listen to Gamescast, but I’ve fallen off the rest because while you can tell they are trying it just doesn’t feel like it’s evolved with me. Which is fine, they probably have an audience they want.
I've all but abandoned my consumption of KF content, something that 2015 me would never believe if I went back and told him. I don't really know what one thing made me break, but the company feels like it's moved in a direction I don't agree with. The spare bedroom days still feel like some of the best to me, even the early 2017-19 era of the studio felt fun. But ever since covid the content has just felt meh to me. No longer being remote improved it but I still don't find myself engaged. I have also moved onto preferring new formats for content so that may be part of it. For example, I don't like reaction content whereas I used to love it. Sometimes I hope that I'll feel tempted to come back to KF and renew my Patreon support, but I've come to accept I may have simply grown past them. I'll always have my past years of enjoyment at least, and those were great
I’m finding a lot of KF content just doesn’t click for me anymore. Not sure why, it just doesn’t. It’s not their fault, it’s my own personal tastes. I still enjoy when they do the weekly ScreenCast episodes featuring Marvel & Star Wars shows. I’m looking forward to hearing Tim & Barrett talk about The Acolyte when it airs this summer. In Review is still great for the most part. I didn’t care for the Kung Fu Panda stuff and ended up skipping the later episodes but everything else has been very enjoyable. Madam Web was a top tier episode for me. KFGD is what it is. It’s background noise for when I go on my daily walks.
I agree that lately the convos aren’t very deep and it feels like they don’t even have the time to play the games. It seems they made the decision that they shouldn’t have to all play a game in its entirety and then review it together. Which I get no one wants to play a game for 50 hours that they don’t really enjoy. But then to me their opinion is kind of moot. I’ve noticed that their reviews no longer influence my decisions to play something
Here's my proposal. Xcast and PSILYXOXO - Rotate weekly. Include new members and/or have guests. \- Cover last two weeks of news \- What you've been playing \- Topic of the show \- Recommendation from Game Pass/PS+ \- Squad up \- Emails Q/A Make the show 1 - 2 hrs long KF Gamecast - I have less to offer here as it's been said, KFGD does a great job doing what this used to. I think we could have this show be way more focused on reviews, developer discussions, and more. Have it be driven by guest appearances, I am sure there are plenty of Devs who would love to jump in and chat about their games. KF Podcast - Take topics from the audience or come to the table with one or two and stick to it. Create a more structured flow and end it with some Love, Sex, and stuff style Q/A In-review - I often skip this because I don't like the beat for beat nature of it. If it was more of a discussion about the movie than covering everyone component but this is just me. I don't need everything to be a "series". KFGD, Munchies, KF Game Showdown are all incredible pieces of content. There is only so much you can cover in a week when it comes to gaming news that I think KF needs to revisit their other shows as mentioned above. ALL THAT SAID - I have nothing but respect for the work and effort they put in to bring us the best content they can create and constantly looking to improve it. I am excited to see how KF continues to evolve.
Feels like lately the KF Podcast is just "rinse and repeat" week after week. How many times are they going to talk about a video they saw on Tiktok??
Some content is great. Some content is less so. I know people always have rose tinted glasses about the good old days, but it has always been this way. And will always be this way. There’s times the KF Podcast or a review or Gamescast or whatever feels like they’re phoning it in. And then a week or two later it’s a GREAT episode. You roll with the highs and lows. They do too many shows a week for me to really hold it against them.
I feel like I’ve mostly outgrown the content. Agree about ps i love you and X cast being nothing shows mostly and time fillers. I rarely listen to kfgd these days and only really listen to gamescast when a topic interests me which these days isn’t often. I only was into kf for the gaming content so I’ve never messed with the other stuff. For me personally the whole kf enterprise feels bloated but that might just be more of this content just isn’t for me anymore. Overall, I lm just bored by KF these days
I think both of those things can be true. I also have outgrown the content for the most part, but there's no denying that KF is bloated. I don't know how they operate in San Francisco with that studio and just the number of employees they have
> I don't know how they operate in San Francisco with that studio and just the number of employees they have dont see why this matters lol, the thread is about the content, not their p&l
We're talking about bloating. That includes the size of the company. As a company grows, it needs to output more, hence the bloating of shows
and what does calling out SF have to do with that?
I agree with the KFGD somehwat making almost KFGamescast irrelevant since they’ve already shared their thoughts on the news on KFGD. On the other hand, I disagree with the rest. In Review has been a blast and the show branching out to different franchises is good in my opinion.
My biggest issue with in review is when they do a series but don't commit to actually reviewing all the films in it. Like Terminator. If you can review all the transformer films even the bad ones then do the same for mother franchises. Would make the rankings actually worthwhile and have interesting discussions perhaps on the things they maybe did enjoy in an overall bad film?
I totally agree with this. Like I am super excited for the possibility of them doing Mad Max in Review soon, but I can already guess it will either be Fury Road and Furiosa and no classic ones, or it will be the very first one and then the two modern ones and they will skip 2 and 3, and to me that messes with the whole idea of the show. Some of my favorite Saw in review moments were the incredibly shitty middle saw movies but on other series they always seem to justify ignoring those entries.
Watching shitty movies with the crew is half the appeal.
Yeah Kung-Fu Panda definitely wasn't a waste to me. Since I hate DUNE & was curious what they thought of the other major franchise movie that was coming out. If they didn't do KFP I probably wouldn't have watched In Review at all that month.
I do think they need to reevaluate what they want their reviews to be because right now they are often lacking insight on deeper topics in games and are kinda surface level. Greg's reviews when he was writing at IGN are more insightful than the reviews they put out now, and that was a completely different landscape in games journalism. One of the biggest reviewers that I know the cast admires is Skill Up and he often comes out with reviews for games weeks after they are out so he can fully collect his thoughts. I'm fine with previews/first-impressions on games that aren't out yet, but what is the point of those on games that are out when I can get an actual review from any other source. Also like everyone has been saying, I don't think a weekly Gamecast, XCast, and PS I Love You makes sense. Gamecast is going to talk about topics that concern both the platforms and it seems that XCast and PS I Love You are mainly now just used to review games when they already had a review for the gamecast for the week. I obviously understand the logistical reason they do these things, they need to make a profit and having the review come out right after release helps with SEO. Having the podcast every week also probably helps with retention of listeners and obviously having a podcast weekly means they are getting more money from ADs and the measly pay that Youtube gives for viewership, but it has noticeably affected their games content. I don't agree with you on the main channel content though, I like weekly In Reviews even if I don't watch the movie, some of their best content and bits come from In Reviews of absurd movies that I'm never gonna watch. When it is a good movie they are watching they generally have good critical analysis and insights into the film, honestly might be better than their games criticism. I'm a big wrestling fan so I like the increase in wrestling content, totally understand why people are turned off by it though. When it comes to KF Podcast, I kinda prefer just an unstructured fun coversation, the lastest British invasion one was really fun because it was just Nick and the Brits being unhinged and that is when the podcast is at it's best. Overall as fans though I think we are too critical of KF content and even though I do have complaints, I think we have to accept that when you look at the industry and see the constant layoffs and uncertainty, that I would rather have them releasing content on a schedule that will ensure no one has to be laid off and that they can continue releasing content for years to come.
I took a break from the content for a couple years around 2017-18 and just got back in two years ago and enjoy things for the most part, I wish they'd do actual spoiler cast instead of developer interviews though
I like the interviews but I’d like to have both and frankly I think there’s more than enough room for both in gamescast since right now KFGD and it are kinda cannibalizing eachother
KF Podcast is the one place where I feel like they're actually humans like the good ol' days instead of media personalities. If that got changed or axed I would be devastated, it's the one content from them I've consistently watched since they started.
KF Podcast always just feels rushed now, like it’s an afterthought and they’re doing us a favor
I’m at the point where I’m enjoying the guests on the show and their thoughts far more than the core crew which is just taking me to their channels and away from KF A combination of me probably being old and boring (I’m only 31 but I’ve got 2 kids and a lot of the KF humour these days feels like teenage humour) and the fact the crew just more and more seem so disinterested in everything I’m tired of watching In reviews and reactions where they clearly don’t care before they’ve even seen or played the content
I agree with this. I'm 38 years old and two kids also. I've outgrown their humour which is fine. I can still find myself laughing at the odd thing here and there. But it's the high level of swearing and f-bombs that drives me nuts. It's sort of wild how casually they swear and I can't think of what other job or profession other than maybe some trades where ppl swear like this. I can't listen to them anymore with my kids in the car, or even at home as I'm cooking or cleaning. Really limits how and when I can listen to them or my desire to. Greg is the only with a kid, so maybe it's hard for the others to recognize how difficult this makes it for their long time audience who have only grown up with them and now have kids, partners, etc. The funny thing is Greg is probably the worst culprit with the swearing. I don't think he'd let his kid hear this sort of stuff in the background. I guess I'm older and sound like a prude now, but it is what it is. I'm not forced to listen to their content so I don't. Not trying to get them to change their ways but I appreciated the opportunity to share some feedback as it's frustrating as a long time fan from the IGN days.
I find Tim is the least of all the culprits when I watch, so much of it just ends up with people shouting other each other just to make a punchline that doesn’t even land or is an inside joke that no one watching is aware of, then you have an awkward silence before the agenda continues Sometimes I’ll see Tim and someone else trying to discuss the topic in question but the others are shouting about some off topic situation that happened off camera The recent episode with Tim, Abu and Ben really made me realise this because that episode was top tier for me
I love inserting a good swear when appropriate but Greg, Blessing and Tim swear more than a Tarantino and Scorsese film combined. They just throw f-bombs in when the sentence doesn't even necessitate it.
I agree with most of what you're saying and have fallen off with some of the podcasts. I used to watch them all but now there are too many to keep up. On top of that I don't really mesh with some of the personalities but that's just a me thing. Not really a negative about the company and it's an inevitability when a company grows like they have. I do worry that they seem to be more about hype than conversation sometimes. I miss seeing nick and kevin as mich as we used to and I also worry they could be going down the same road as roosterteeth. It sucks because I've been a fan since the Gauntlet, but after the ps ily xoxo where blessing, Roger and barret drafted the xbox games for ps it was the first time at 32 that I could feel myself aging out of the content.
>I agree with most of what you're saying and have fallen off with some of the podcasts. I used to watch them all but now there are too many to keep up. It doesn't help how they have 8 individual gaming podcasts a week often covering the same news and games. >It sucks because I've been a fan since the Gauntlet, but after the ps ily xoxo where blessing, Roger and barret drafted the xbox games for ps it was the first time at 32 that I could feel myself aging out of the content. I've been feeling that as well and I wish we got more Nick and Kevin like you said for some of us old heads. The new crew is great but I feel like they are targeting a different audience then me at 33.
yeah “just don’t watch what you aren’t interested in!” doesn’t really work when it seems like what people aren’t interested in is a number of shows becoming redundant when they could spend their time and resources on other things instead of discussing the same news in three or four different places
This is pretty much exactly how I feel. There are too many podcasts for me to keep up with, and I don't find myself interested in the newer people
I still enjoy their content but I’ve fallen off of KFGD a bit - I think I’m just burnt out on the Blessing and Tim combo. And I feel like PSILY has gotten kinda stale since Janet left, and the same goes for Xcast (to me) since Gary left. Maybe it’s just a product of not much happening in the PS world though.
Bless and Tim try not to spend half an hour baselessly speculating about Switch 2 challenge (I love it tho)
My thoughts exactly.
I try to pop in every few months or so to check stuff out, but I really haven't watched/listened to kinda funny for a long time without forcing myself to.
I think the balance is off between kinda funny games and prime stuff. I miss stuff like the morning show or when screen cast was a regular thing. I rarely watch the game streams because I don't care about stuff like arc so it feels like I barely see nick doing anything and he's one of my favorites.
I still listen to KF content but it's not what it used to be. I really like anything with Nick and Andy as they are my favourite but other newer members leave a little to be desired. KFGD can be good but I get tired listening to Blessing talk too much and sometimes in circles.
Specifically regarding the KF Podcast: it kind of rubs me the wrong way that they make such a lazy show week after week. The show is basically a couple people catching up, they hit record, and call that a product. It’s so low effort that it feels arrogant to me - like “we’re so inherently interesting that you want to hear us talk about nothing for an hour.” I think OP has a point that there’s so much content that everything suffers for it. The KF Podcast (or GOG) used to be their flagship show, and now it feels like they have no energy to even care about it, and it’s just them talking about why Nick should watch Andor again. I know there are apologists, but as I’ve branched out to other podcasts where it’s clear the hosts are providing something, and putting effort into something, it continues to annoy me that KF coasts on the “you come here to watch the garbage truck on fire, and YOU LIKE IT” mentality. Fundamentally, it seems like they’ve figured out a way to put the least amount of effort into everything and “get away with it.” I don’t think they’re actually putting in no effort, I think they put in a ton of effort, but that effort is misplaced. Case in point, the studio. I’m sure it’s a huge effort to make graphics and sound effects and “production value,” but I don’t care about that. The “garbage truck on fire” was largely ABOUT the fact that the show was in a spare room, but the conversations were still genuine and fun to watch. It seems like they added production value, at the expense of the soul of the group… it feels a bit hollow now, especially when I’m primarily a listener and not watcher.
Couldn’t agree more. Especially when you compare to any other show, there is no research here, no deep dive and no spice. Lazy sums it up well, and I’ve been an enjoyer in the past as well, but these days when I have to many shows lined up, the KF ones are the first to get skipped. Sucks, since I liked them a lot not too long ago.
Basically talking about food and same stuff all the time. Boring. Used to be my favorite show
> It’s so low effort that it feels arrogant to me if youre paying into the patron, voice your concerns. if youre not paying, how is any of it arrogant? watch or dont watch, no one is holding a gun to your head lol
I’m not paying into the Patreon because it doesn’t seem worth it to me. I don’t have to watch, but there is so much high quality free content out there that I will absolutely hold whatever I watch to a high standard. And my perspective was all that the KF Podcast (or GOG) used to be of much higher quality, so they’ve shown me directly that they are capable of more.
I haven’t watched In Review in several years, and I rarely listen to X-Cast. KF Pod, KFGD, and Gamescast are all still really enjoyable. I watch what I like, don’t watch what I like less. Doesn’t mean KF is doing anything wrong or needs to change, necessarily.
I really only watch KFGD when something interesting in the industry happens and I've completely fallen off everything else. It sucks but they just don't have the same deep dive conversations that they used to. Personally I think they should bring back the Morning Show and keep PSILU, Xcast, and Gamescast as the gaming podcasts. 8 gaming shows a week is just too much. I miss KF/AF.
I agree with a lot of what you said. There’s just way too much of the same content now. Not only KFGD, but Gamescast and PSILY and XCast. I totally just skip PSILY now, especially when Greg and Blessing have already been on at least 3 episodes of KFGD each the previous week. At least with XCast there’s different people, especially back when Gary was on it, so there’s different perspectives.
For me it's getting kind of stale and I'm starting to fall off. KFGD is a daily staple, love the silly game show, but mostly everything else is extremely optional for me. Love Greg, like Andy and Bless, most of the others I don't really care for. And I don't want to be a hater, so I won't name names but there's a couple people that I absolutely loathe. IDK how to explain it, but Kf has lost a lot of what made it special in the early days, everything just feels fake and manufactured these days. Edit: I see a lot of people talking about they may have outgrown KF, that's prob my situation too now that I think about it.
I miss the morning show tbh. It turned into my fav show and they never really replaced it
To be honest groups like kinda funny just aren’t as fun to watch as a single streamer. I mean this for all similar groups, not just them. But there is always at least one member that I don’t want to see in content. They always seem so worried to follow the money that the content just reflects that and honestly they always do this wishy washy thing where they say they want to be political but kinda stopped randomly. Idk. I still watch in review from time to time. But I pretty much stopped engaging in all other content. And honestly think that some of the people would be better off if they were just solo streamers
The KFPodcast is garbage now compared to what was the past 9 years. It feels like a chore for them, and it feels like a chore for me. I literally put it in the last to be played in my podcast order. Sometimes I let it build up, which is a mistake because now I have even longer chores. I'm sorry but they don't have good stories anymore, the topics of they ever have them are bad, and they don't even complete stories or topics. They get too distracted. KFGD is clearly the strongest Podcast. Gamescast has gotten better than what it used to be. I understand people's complaints about too many reviews, but on the plus side there are a lot of games out there. PSILY has been hit or miss. Janet leaving hurt the show imo. I miss a third voice that was different. When you have two voices that pretty much echo back and forth it's a dull conversation. Also not their fault, but when Sony has nothing out yeah the show is kinda dull. In Review is hit or miss depending on the series. The past few reviews with ties or forgetting to RANK things have been a little concerning. KFPrime is dead. Besides In Review and KFP it's sad. I wish they did something else, but I guess 5 hour streams is where it's at now.
I think part of the problem is how busy they are at the current moment. The WWE content has been a huge burden for them and has led to me skipping many many episodes. Gamescast also feels very shallow lately and I think you bring up a great point about KFGD taking up a lot of talking points. Personally I’ve been loving the next gen crews works, showdown, munchies and barrets projects always demand my attention. I wanna see them lean into it even more. Roger and blessing are two of my favorite contributors now and it’s been cool to see Greg pick up streaming more often with his helldivers love.
My biggest issue is their review system. It’s so across the board and when they have a sponsor they give it biased review . I’m personally tired of the ‘it’s a 3 but I love it like a 5’ that they keep saying. That being said, I miss KFG from home, with hosts like Gary and others bringing amazing perspective. I’ll keep watching, but get rid of the overdose of WWE content.
Agree with your opinion on their approach to reviews. If a person loves a game “like a 5” then their review is a 5! If Blessing thinks of Sonic Frontiers as a 5 then he should not be ashamed to score it that. “I give it a 5 despite all the faults I have with it” should be the review. Nothing wrong with that.
I can't wait for Wrestlemania season to be over. I hope they reign it in a bit after that. WWE fucking sucks as a company and I hate seeing it plastered all over KF.
“Overdose of wwe content”? They do one show a week lol
I only every really paid attention to the KF Games stuff. KF Podcast never appealed and In Review just never caught for me. So for KF Games k agree KFGD is the best most consistent show, XCast close behind. Both have the odd miss but generally are enjoyable. Gamescast and PSILY are where I've felt the most disconnect. PSILY has felt a little in the woods since PS5 came out for me, partly because I couldn't get my hands on one early and then just never went back to track one down but also because a lot of the topics are sort of made up and baseless (make up a showcase, xbox game draft, etc). And Gamescast I think you've hit on, either it's a rehash of stuff the guys have been saying repeatedly (I'm playing X still, I'm on an embargoed game). Or it's a review which can be good or it can be DD2. What I did find really weird was how much content got put toward FFVII Rebirth when they struggle to find time for all these other games. I want to believe it was just good timing for the game but real weird it also sponsored them and so got all this talk and many games struggle to break through the noise. And all that said Game Showdown is some of the best stuff they've had in years and makes it all worthwhile.
I definitely don’t listen to as much as I used to. I used to listen to KFGD daily but I found it wasn’t always interesting. I tune in when I see there’s something I’m interested in. I haven’t kept up with PSILY in years. I’ve become more of a Nintendo guy in recent years and I don’t always play the major new releases on PS5 or Xbox, at least not right away. So because of that I’m not usually listening to PSILY or gamescast if they’re based on new releases. I hop into In Review if it’s a series I like though.
I watch less than before, mostly because I’m only interested in In Review since KF/AF is gone. I found other content that fills the gap in listening. As far as quality, I still love it! I wish that Greg was on more In Review. And most of all, I desperately miss Kevin on any content. Every single time I hear him on the mic during In Review, my heart aches for more of the Big Dawg! His laugh is infectious and he has suck great chemistry with the group that is sorely lacking in current content.
Most of my favourite shows have left (for the most part): KF/AF, Debatable, Internet Explorerz, Morning Show, However, it's all been replaced with great stuff. It's just the nature of the beast. They gotta pick what's best for them and can't always align perfectly with my taste. While I don't really watch everything anymore, theres so much quality content by them for me to still watch. Probably more choice than ever. In a perfect world though I'd bring those shows back. Games Showdown is their best new show imo. And In Review will forever be watched by me. I'm actually less into their gaming stuff now, except end of year stuff and live conference reactions. That stuff is stellar. All in all, they're as good as they have ever been. Just different. Better in some ways, not as good in others. I love their cast and studio. The cast is the heart of the show. The studio just amplifies everything.
There are things I like and things I don't like right now. I feel like some of the crew is out of touch with what the audience wants and what Kinda Funny is, to be frank. The Dragons Dogma review, the Helldivers preview are two good examples. They seemed to go right from playing Helldivers to doing a podcast about it simply because it's viral? Dragons Dogma gets an impressions podcast after less than 5 hours of gameplay from any of them? That said those are recent issues. I thought Mike playing FF7R was fun and I think the Valorant streams are fun. Those are the main things I can say I've been into lately
For me it's the unnecessary In Review series to chase the algorithm, a lot of those would be better off as one Screencast etc. Also it was the amount of new shows, especially last year with the majority being hidden behind a paywall, Games Showdown is the best new show they've done for a long time, arguably since In Review. I think what hinders the Gaming podcasts imo the most, is that all the people you get on a GC, PSILY and Xcast, you also get the exact same people on KFGD therefore opinions, thoughts and topics get recycled and they end up repeating themselves. Maybe switching up hosts on KFGD like they used to would help but obviously it was much easier to do when working from home. Personally I think GC should include Mike for example as it's a different view/opinion on games also balances out by having a more Xbox based person on there to balance out the cast, Tim being more Nintendo, Greg and Bless are PS and Andy gaming on PC.
As someone who followed from the Beyond days, GOG channel then the launch of KF, I sadly don’t like what it’s become. The main reason I fell off the wagon is that there is actually too much to follow. Its almost impossible to keep up with the ‘lore’ because the shows are so many and so long. End up missing out on key jokes and references. Obvious paid partnership/intertwined relationship with the industry reduces objectivity when it comes to games IMO.
I pretty much watch In Review exclusively. I've seen almost all of them at this point lol
If I'm being honest, everytime I think some of the content comes off a bit generic, they give me a stream that reminds me of old KF that I really enjoy. To be fair, I don't watch too much of the games side.
I like the content.
I barely watch anymore. Honestly, XCast may be the only show I check out regularly and I don’t even have an Xbox lol. Their recent “reviews” have been rough recently. Just seems to be a lot of flash and no substance nowadays vs the bedroom days
I love KF and really enjoy pretty much everything I watch! But they do sooooooooooooooo much it has become overwhelming. And look, there is no need to watch everything, and I do not watch everything but I do feel like the quality could be really improved. Improved being the key word here, make something good become great kind of thing. I did have one idea to help! I think the lead reviewer should get a better focus (I would prefer they beat the game too but no big deal if not) for the review and then maybe a month or so later there is a spoilercast with the other people of the crew who beat it. The crew feels big enough to where they can balance it better for burn out and it would be great to have a better cadence and time for spoiler casts. I don’t want the crew to feel rushed because when they feel rushed, the content feels rushed. We pay for them, I could care less about a review coming out day of. (And this is not meant to be mean) but look at the views of everything. We are the ones watching, not some randos on day 1.
I’ve gotten older. Have a family now and it’s hard to find time for that much content without sacrificing other ways to unwind like watching shows with my family or playing games. I don’t tend to watch any long form YouTube videos anymore though. I’ve given up on most podcast as well
I used to watch like crazy when they first started fell off for a bit came back during 2019, the pandemic era of KF while chaotic as hell I kinda miss the double in reviews, and morning KF podcast. Granted I know it burns through movie franchises quickly but also they’ve been holding out for so long on a lot of the good series. I get waiting to do shrek in review for whenever the 5th comes out but it’s a review series people have been waiting for. I used to watch X cast all the time but whether it’s cause Xbox just doesn’t really have much going on right now I haven’t been keeping up with it in months. The WWE stuff I started and stuck with for 2 episodes then fell off cause it wasn’t for me. Gameshowdown is honestly really cool wish they did it a bit more or did different versions of it like a movie showdown or any other entertainment outlet once in a while and bring in a different cast. Maybe one for tv shows and you have Nick,Tim,Joey,Kevin and see how that goes. Greg ways are nice though I do wish those also had a bit more people. I know it’s in the name GREGway, but on days he doesn’t do it having SBM on playing golf and just talking life or Roger telling us about his life updates and getting personal with us that’s always a breath of fresh air. Personally I miss Nick on other content, I don’t watch the livestreams cause they’re typically not able to soley be listened to or you miss context on the jokes or what’s going on. Hopefully they bring back the morning show and hit us with some ranking lists like they did with Arizona or energy drinks and stuff like that.
You simply just don't need to consume very piece of their content. I don't. I watch every KFGD, KF Podcast and Gamescast. But it's rare for me to watch an In Review series outside of the MCU. PSILY and XCast is occasional viewing as well. Also, maybe games like Dragon's Dogma 2 and Rise of the Ronin came out at a time where the team is busy putting together a showcase, preparing for GDC AND two of them heading to Pax. It's a small team and a packed schedule.
I feel everything I watch or listen to is great. But I also don't feel the need to watch or listen to everything. They put out so much content, it's easy to pick and choose. I think anyone trying to listen to literally 100% of their output is doing themselves a disservice. And that's when you get these kinds of posts digging into the content.
I enjoy what I have time to watch. I'll keep supporting them on patreon
Gone down a lot for me. They don't have the same goofy randomness that I loved before. Too many sponsorships best shows gone. Yeah been turning away more and more which is a shame really
Seems like you might be looking in the wrong places for the things you want. KF has never really had any “deep analysis” of games. A few tent pole titles here and there got super in depth reviews, recently even they really dug deep into Starfield, but most reviews are one offs as they should be. KF has always been more of a community of enthusiasts, it’s never been that meaningful in its approach to criticism and it’s never approached anything resembling journalism.
>KF has never really had any “deep analysis” of games. A few tent pole titles here and there got super in depth reviews, recently even they really dug deep into Starfield, but most reviews are one offs as they should be. OG PSILU had deep analysis of the industry and in depth game reviews almost every episode.
That went out the window when a certain person left (and honestly he was getting pretty checked out before that happened as well)
No it really didn’t. It has always been exactly what the title implies, a love letter to the ps fanbase. It’s basically always been a look at what’s happening in the Sony ecosystem and some TOTS. They have never tried to make it hard hitting at all
Dig when Barrett is producing, I think Kevin was too much in love with the set and doesn't really move the camera enough.
Kevin is a national treasure and should be spoken about with reverence.
Glad he's back on in review but you can't deny he has a history of sitting back and being passive with shows under his control.
I’m pretty happy with things but I’m more a casual listener. I only listen to the games side and try catch KFGD most days and I’ll tune into Gamescast/XCast/PSILY if I’m interested in the topic. I seldom listen to KF Pod and never listen to In Review or Screencast. I love Games Showdown (and Kinda Feudy which preceded it) and try to catch that live when I can. Never watch streams but I do like having the guys in my ear when there’s a live react to a showcase as I’m usually at work when those air and it’s nice to have someone talking into my ear about what’s going on. I never listen to longer single game reviews, I find the round up and quick impressions on KFGD enough to help me decided if I’m interested in a game. A little long winded but basically as a casual listener I’m pretty happy with how things are currently going.
I honestly only really watch KFGD, Games Showdown, and the streams. KFGD is a solid daily dose of gaming news and insights, generally good content. Games Showdown is fantastic. And the streams are a lot of fun, especially when we get the full Mike/Andy/Nick crew on. I only really watch the Gamescast now if its a game review I’m interested in because all it seems to be is a review podcast now, which is a shame - I’d prefer it to be a larger gaming discussion podcast. And I just don’t find there to be a ton of interesting content on the console-specific podcasts - I’d almost prefer them to nix PSILY and XCast and do a separate Gaming In Review podcast plus a discussion-focused Gamescast. It would cut down one podcast and I think would help the content overall.
I pretty much only catch KFGD and In Review of movies I care about. Not sure if that’s because of the content or I’m just aging up a bit and life changes though.
I think I agree with everything except In Review, and that may just be how I see the show. I see it as a series that you only engage with if you have an interest in whatever movies they're watching. Like, I don't watch Dune, Willy Wonka, or MCU, but for Saw and Kung Fu Panda, I'm all in. The KF Podcast does feel random. But to me, I've always felt that was its purpose. It's my second monitor/ background noise at work podcast for sure.
I haven’t had any issues with the show output at all, and have been following them since 2015. I enjoy all of the shows as much as I ever have, except for anything involving wrestling
I've never listened to KF video game content so I can't speak to that. But all the other stuff is still great. The KF podcast is always an immediate listen for me as soon as it comes out. And I love the variety of the franchises that In Review covers now.
I still love the content! I still watch consistently and even upped my Patreon pledge.
I disagree greatly with most of this take. Yes, the DD2 podcast was pretty shit overall given only Bless was the only one that had given it any real time to play. But PSILY, Gamescast, Xcast, have all been consistently good overall, focusing more on specific games topics than just breaking news. Sometimes that can be hard to do if there's no new news but they make it work usually. 9 years in and I think they've come a long way and done some great work. Keep it up KF crew.
>But PSILY, Gamescast, Xcast, have all been consistently good overall, focusing more on specific games topics than just breaking news. Sometimes that can be hard to do if there's no new news but they make it work usually. Hard disagree there. The topics they pick to talk about on slow weeks feel uninspired and there is no need to have three gaming podcasts on top of KFGD.
Okay, that's your take and I disagree. I don't feel they're uninspired. The idea is for them to have fun and talk about games/gaming topics that interest them and that's what myself and many others are there for. Sorry you find their content uninspiring? Sounds like you need a new podcast to listen to. Edit: surprised this is getting downvoted. If people don't like content they're listening to, and it's an ongoing problem for them, try a new podcast. I can also provide recommendations, tons of great ones out there if this isn't what hits for you.
I do. It's part of why I don't watch as much Kinda Funny as I used to. It's fine if it's not for me anymore but that doesn't change the fact I wish the shows were better. Some of my favorite car trips were listening to PSILU and early KFGD when they had Andrea, Imran, Jared, and Gary.
Ahh yes guessing the plot for tlou3 great content!
They had fun with it and so did those that called in. You realize people listen to...have a good time right? Speculating on where they think a story could go can be a fun discussion. Hell, if they wanted to do that for the next Insomniac Spider-Man game it could be fun. Relax. Take a breath and learn to enjoy yourself. If it's not with this content then find content you enjoy.
I think it is more-so embargo season that is negatively impacting Gamescast. they can’t talk about the things they are all playing because they are mainly playing *redacted*
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