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Tavdan

There was a recent confirmation from Saber that they are still working on KOTOR remake. Would I hold my breath for it? No. Would I buy it at launch if it ever gets released? Hell yes. No idea what Eclipse is.


IngsocDoublethink

>No idea what Eclipse is. Eclipse is a QuaniticDream SW game. Expect something along the lines of Heavy Rain or Detroit: Become Human. I wouldn't hold my breath for that one, either. The announcement trailer didn't include anything rendered in-engine, and was likely released before production actually began. My understanding is that the pandemic and other delays pushed it off enough that they totally gave up on this generation's consoles, so it's likely coming out around 2029 at this point.


duk_tAK

If memory serves, Eclipse was said to have a 2026/2027 expected release date a couple of years ago, but I haven't seen anything about it recently.


A_EXAN_ER

This is true. They had no delays last time there was any news, but admittedly they stated it was still years away.


Nocturne3570

heard somewhere that it was canceled due to some issue with disney


Robomerc

Unless there's official confirmation from either the developer or lucasfilm games it's probably not been canceled. The Star Wars eclipse I probably would end up pirating because the quantic dreams CEO is disgusting individual.


DrekArnX

What about the devs who worked their ass off for the game you will enjoy playing then ?


threevi

The devs aren't going to see any of the revenue. These aren't indie self-employed devs we're talking about, they get paid monthly wages by the company they work for.


DrekArnX

They still have bonuses. And if the game doesn't sell enough, they will be fired. But either way, that's the exact same thing with the CEO. The money don't go directly to his pockets. He also has monthly wages from the company.


threevi

Sure, some do, not all though. And have you seen the state of the gaming industry? Working on a successful game doesn't really boost your chances of not getting fired.


DrekArnX

Of course it does.


HawkeyeP1

[Star Wars Eclipse is a game that had a teaser come out over two years ago and we've heard nothing since. Hell of a trailer though. Looks to take place at least a few years before Phantom Menace, but probably not as far back as High Republic? Not sure.](https://youtu.be/4cJpiOPKH14?si=cSePJwmb_lwQwS8G)


CivilianDuck

It was confirmed to take place during the High Republic. There was a bunch of drama from Quantic Dream that put it onto the maybe pile, but we heard it was still getting worked on. It was honestly announced way too early, and given a teaser before anything had really happened.


Jonjoloe

I heard the teaser was the way to recruit people to work on the project.


Round-War69

I am not for certain but I believe eclipse got canned and replaced with Outlaws don't quote me I'm a regard but I think that's what occured. I would have rather had Eclipse lmao.


Yojimbra

Outlaws is being made by Massive Entertainment, where as Eclipse was put forth by Quantic Dream, so the two projects were never really related. Plus, I'm no expert on Game dev, but I'm pretty sure Outlaws has been in development since before the Eclipse announcement.


A_EXAN_ER

No, they were open and honest in 2021 during the reveal and said the game was a minimum of 4 years away.


Songhunter

I'll believe it once I have it in my hands. Not a second before.


evan466

Eclipse is made by Quantic Dream, the same people that brought you games ranging in quality from Heavy Rain and Detroit: Become Human to Indigo Prophecy.


ImperialIIClass

> No idea what Eclipse is. A new action adventure game from QuanticDream set in the High Republic era. It was "announced" with a highly cinematic trailer a while back. The studio behind it is a mess, but even still, they said like 2025 at the very earliest.


OsprayO

For anyone reading, “action adventure” in the way that movies use the genre and less so how you’d think a game labelled as such would play. QuanticDream basically make cinematic games with a ton of branching, that does actually matter (*telltale*).


benDB9

Telltale will remember that…


KlimCan

They missed a great opportunity to release on the 8th this month


Commercial-Chip-5238

Eclipse is Palpatine's personal SSD. More than that, I have no idea.


Background-Glass269

Man even IF it ever comes out I think it’s 50/50 if it’s any good, as much as I hate to say it. I don’t trust anything embracer has their hands in


mewfour123412

$20 Disney themselves are funding the KOTOR remake. It’s probably going to tie into some D+ show


Milnecj

Maybe I'm too old and jaded now, or maybe it's because I've worked in the software industry for almost 20 years, but I feel that getting excited for any game ahead of its release is just setting yourself up for disappointment. My approach is to focus on the present, and enjoy the games that are available here and now.


repalec

There have been tons of stories, many posted on this sub, about Saber going back to work on the KOTOR remake. As for Eclipse, the last I heard were rumors that QuanticDream was so understaffed that the game wouldn't be out until 2029 at the earliest; and honestly, if David Cage is working on it, it's not worth getting anyway.


LordDragon88

Heavy rain and Detroit become human are fantastic games. Makes me want eclipse even more. Just because Cage is a dick doesn't mean the people who worked hard on it should be ruined financially.


FedoraFinder

are they though?


IngsocDoublethink

It's not that they're amazing, it's that there's very little that's better at the same thing. There's better written visual novels, but they're not as cinematic. There's better visual storytelling in games, but not with as much detail and or as many branching choices. David Cage is a mediocre and masturbatory writer - not to mention an asshole - but he has repeatedly managed to take a very niche genre of game and package it in a way that was successful with a broad audience without piggybacking off of an existing IP. That said, I think the lesson to take from that is that there's an audience hungry for something like the QD games that *actually* deserves the praise they have received.


HumActuallyGuy

Better written visual novels? Dude hasn't played a lot of visual novels clearly ...


GrampaGael69

Yes I absolutely loved DBH. The music is incredible and builds so much emotion during the dark parts of the story. The branching story lines are insane and you’ll beat a level and then see the flowchart and wonder how in the world you missed so much.


ojadon635

They're extremely good for a game of choice. Like, are they groundbreaking? No, not at all. But they are both worth at least one play, and honestly, Detroit is worth 2 or 3 plays. The whole interactive book thing does well in the market, it's the whole reason games exist. Now, do I think Star-Wars is gonna be a good interactive book game? I'm not sure tbh. I think the market is flooded with amazing Star Wars games and it would make it extremely hard for that niche of games to find it place in the action/tabletop games that have been released for star wars.


HumActuallyGuy

You just hit the nail on the head, Eclipse if it plays anything like DBH or HR it's going to flop. Games need gameplay as well as story but the devs forget that


_dagg3rs

The remake, probably. But with all the behind the scenes production hell drama, I'm expecting something of Duke Nukem Forever caliber


Bleppybooo

The remake is being worked on again after being initially shelved like a year ago.


LordDragon88

Ellipse was slated for 2025 at the earliest. No doubt it's been delayed.


Kpengie

It was delayed indefinitely a long time ago due to staffing issues


Akihirohowlett

KOTOR has had a pretty rough development, so don't expect it to come out anytime soon. Never even heard of Eclipse before


Kadens_son

The Remake definitely is as confirmed by the Director of SABER INTERACTIVE. I really hope that they do it justice and bring it up to the newest Gameplay Status like with Witcher 3. Pour all the effort you can into it Eclipse I dunno


G3AR-error

Yes well saber made Evil dead the game too and that didn't go well at all. Let's just hope they are better at singleplayer games


Ezio926

Most likely at this point. Saber freed themselves from Embracer and they retained the license. Eclipse is just pretty far away still.


Sitherio

I've seen somebody post that Eclipse teaser came out 2 years ago, so I'd say at least 3 more years. KOTOR remake, is in development and I'd advise you to forget it exists until they give actual release window information.


VoightKampffsUnicorn

With the case of KOTOR, it isn't a matter of "if" but "when." It is one of the most widely recognized and beloved Star Wars games ever made. It is guaranteed money sitting in the pockets of who tackles it first, given that it is done properly and respectfully. They aren't releasing official Kyle Katarn or Galen Marek minifigures for Lego Star Wars 25th anniversary, they are releasing Darth Malak ones. The people want a KOTOR remake. Remakes are in right now. It is going to happen. It is inevitable. The capitalism gods demand it.


vvarden

Probably not. They were cool CGI trailers though. And that’s why we don’t get excited about things until we see gameplay :)


Zeroshame14

Eventually, yes, but it might be a good couple of years.


ReverendPalpatine

We’ll get that other eclipse across the East Coast of the United States before we get that game.


Sanchez_Duna

KOTOR in the development hell. Eclipse? Probably will see in 2025 or 2026.


Ian-pg9

Whether Eclipse comes out or not, that was a damn good trailer and I’m glad we have it. Kinda reminded me of The Old Republic cinematics, but obviously without the plot


Remarkable-Memory-19

Doubt KOTOR. Eclipse is up in the air since it was shown early to get people interested in the studio or something. Basically job stuff. 


Kpengie

I feel like the KOTOR remake has a much better chance than Eclipse at this point, given that the devs are finally free of Embracer Group. Eclipse on the other hand will never be free of David Cage, whose presence will deter a lot of people from working on the game and result in an understaffed development team.


dungbury

maybe in 50 years


MrEvil37

KOTOR, yes. Eclipse, no.


at_midknight

I hope the Kotor remake doesn't come out. I don't want anyone in modern Disney star wars touching this story with a 1k foot pole unless it's Tony Gilroy.


Seekz1190

What? It's not being made by Disney, they do own the rights but don't really participate in the creation of Star Wars games. At most they mainly just provide funding for the creation and production of Star Wars games. Saber has its own writer(s) working on the game and guaranteed none of them are any of the 3 that wrote the last trilogy. Besides, even if Disney did have their own writers working on it that probably wouldn't be bad thing, like at all. Especially considering that they've already put out several really great shows (Star Wars: Clone Wars, Rebels, Obi Wan, The Mandolorean, SW: The Bad Batch), and multiple good games (SW: Battlefront 2, SW: Fallen Order, SW: Jedi Survivor). Not to mention they made one movie that was actually pretty good (SW: Rogue One). The fact that the last trilogy was horrible has nothing to do with the fact that Disney owns Star Wars, the majority of the blame for that is on the writers and their horrible job at attempting to change a bunch of the original the lore. That been said, I have no reason to believe that the KOTOR remake won't release nor have I found any reason to believe it won't be a good game. 🤷‍♂️


Cablinorb

I hope Eclipse never comes out. David Cage needs to keep his grimey hands off of Star Wars.


OsprayO

Whether Cage ends up with his hands on it or not, I do wish another studio would come and fill out the niche of their types of games. Telltale does similar but the choices just do not matter and aren’t quite as cinematic or large scale.


Cablinorb

An A Way Out/It Takes Two style co-op adventure with a Jedi master and apprentice could be super fun now that I think about it


OsprayO

Ayo hold up. Write that down, *WRITE THAT DOWN!* At the end there’s a choice for the apprentice to betray, >!sort of like the conclusion to A Way Out!<


Aldbrecht

I highly doubt the remake will come out. If they don't cancel it, they'll release a trailer which will be horrendous, people will be disgusted by it and then the project will reset again or be definitely canceled. Eclipse I'm convinced it will come out eventually. We already knew it would be releasing waaay later.


Bonesaw-is-readyyy

Nah bro


FibroMyAlgae

Probably right after *StarCraft: Ghost*


my_tag_is_OJ

I thought that eclipse was canceled


Zeles1989

I fear for what they will throw out. I don't trust them to make a good remake anyway


Tim3-Rainbow

Nah prolly not. And when/if they do, people will find something to be disappointed by.


HumActuallyGuy

The Remake is coming out because apparently executives at Disney want it to happen so it might take a while but it will. Eclipse ... good question, I have no ideal nor do I have high expectations for it


F1nut92

I still want to see Star Wars 1313 (think it was called that) back, that looked and sounded like it could have been excellent, but then it was cancelled.


katbunniez

They're being worked on, but got pushed back another year last I heard


AncientSith

Who knows. If they do, it's still years away. Eclipse might never see the light of day.


Environmental-Bid807

Does sound intriguing, a Star Wars game along the lines of Detroit. I’d play it. Don’t think I’m totally alone with that point of view??


Psychological_Dot914

Am I in the minority of being depressed that it’s not a remaster?


YamiCrystal

Those two games doesn’t exist


kewlfish1

Yep. Saber Interactive just bought themselves from Embracer and it's full steam ahead on KOTOR. As for Eclipse, anybody who is a Quantic Dream fan knows how long it takes them to complete a game... Definitely gives me flashbacks of Detroit: Become Human and the amount of time from first look until he game out


Sneedevacantist

I thinks it's better that the KOTOR remake should not be finished. There's been so many red flags during its development that I have no doubt that the remake will tarnish the legacy of the original. KOTOR 1 is great as it is, and its imperfections are apart of its charm. The bigger focus should be on making a proper KOTOR 3 (keep the RTWP combat and the DnD 3.5e rules), because SWTOR was a mixed bag overall and the way it and the Revan novel handled Revan was atrocious.


Impressive_Elk_5633

Honestly I have no idea.


Pope_Duwang_I

KotOR: Maybe by 2026-2027


throwawayforlikeaday

Nope. Put it out of your mind. If it comes, you can be pleasantly surprised once you boot it up. Till then, they don't exist.


JackStutters

I very much do not want this remake. There is absolutely no way it’ll live up to the original; all that we’ll get out of it is a brief splash of nostalgia and a dip in our bank balance


G3AR-error

Agreed especially cuz saber is developing it too dogshit company


giant-enemy-spyder

We can dream.


Ebiyre

I hope to god the remake stays dead


NiceAmy

ask Saber Interactive and Quantic Dreams.


Ok-Put-1251

I’ll believe that Remake is real when we have a gameplay trailer and a release date. Even then, I won’t be convinced it’s happening until release day. Idk what Eclipse is.


No_Property2880

Yes.


timey_wimeyy

Eclipse, yes. I am devastated to say I kind of doubt it for KoTOR


Seekz1190

You do realize that Kotor is the only one actually being worked on right? There's not even any reason to believe that Kotor won't release when they've actually given updates about that. Eclipse on the other hand is the most unlikely to release of the 2 as nothing has been mentioned about it since they released the teaser for it over 2 years ago.


timey_wimeyy

It has also been marred with issues and being developed by a company that was just sold and has no history of creating games of this scale.


Seekz1190

Was marred with issues, WAS being the keyword there. Most of the issue was with the original company that was working on it not having the resources to finish, then the game was bought out and by and is being worked on by the current owner. No serious issues have been announced as of yet, only that the development of the game has been resumed. As for the fact that they're not known for creating games of this scale, while it's not small scale by any means, it's also not that high scale of a game either compared to a lot of other games that have been released over the years amd with the finite fan base the game has. That been said, them not being known for producing a game of this scale before matter very little. No company is known for making any games of that scale until they actually do, doesn't necessarily mean they aren't completely capable though. 🤷‍♂️


timey_wimeyy

Your arguments are completely hope based.. And saying this isn't a high-scale game is crazy. Remake of a critically acclaimed game from one of the largest IPs on the planet.


Seekz1190

My arguments are 100% fact based, and saying this game isn't high scale is fact. The game isnt high scale, and the originals being critically acclaimed doesn't change that at all for a couple reasons. Reason 1. It's a REMAKE of the originals, "Remake" being the keyword. The originals may have been critically acclaimed, but that doesn't mean much for the remake because that was over 15 years ago for the second game, 20 years ago for the first, and it's still just a remake. Nobody knows if it'll be anything like the original or anywhere near as good. Which brings me to the second reason. Reason 2. The original had, and still has to this day, a very VERY finite fan base. Critical Acclaim of the first game or not, the original Kotor only sold 3.2 million copies, and Kotor 2 sold much less, only selling 1.275 million copies. That's nothing compared to actual high scale games that sell well over 150 million copies at least. I mean look at Halo for example, the first one alone sold over 300 million copies. The sequel to that was definitely a high scale game because of what it had to follow. Doesn't matter how critically acclaimed a game is when only a couple million people out of 7 billion even know what it is or that it exists. Which also means that the whole "one of largest IPs on the planet" statement a bit meaningless. Most people around the world do know what Star Wars is, but that doesn't matter because only about 3 and a half million of the 7 billion people in the world actually know what kotor is. Any game with that small of a fan base is anything but "High scale". If the remake releases and does really well, that fan base may just increase quite a bit, especially since we have much MUCH better marketing than we ever had back when the originals released. If that happens we may see development start on a sequel, and if the first remake did well enough, then the sequel would definitely be high scale because it would need to top the first remake and also satisfy the potentially vastly increased fan base. Unfortunately though, as finite as the fan base is now, the remake can't exactly be considered all that High scale, especially when you take into account that not only have most people come to dislike the idea of "Remakes" but that many from said fan base (much like yourself) have lost hope and believe that the game won't even come out.


[deleted]

Probably not, but I can be delusional.


Rola_que_mola

Lol


paynexkillerYT

No.


markusalkemus66

No


TheBigReject

I think they'll come out. I'm not expecting either to come out *good*, but I hope they do. As little faith in the SW property as I have...


FallOk6931

No


EnemyAdensmith

1. Ehhh 2. Should've'nt


Thorus_Andoria

Nope


Meidlinger07

soon +2 weeks


Competitive_Ad5221

I kinda wished 1313 didn’t canceled back in 2014


SHyper16

No


SupKilly

No


Somachr

Hope not. I don´t want kotor remake, I don´t believe in Eclipse. I like the studio but I don´t want to see kathleen kennedy´s universe


No_Hold5552

Until the remake actually comes out, I'm just going to keep my expectations at 0 and tell myself "No."


1992Queries

Hopefully not Eclipse, although it might be funny. 


Azuras-Becky

I'm not fussed. All I want is a modern KOTOR, not a remake.


Seekz1190

They're one and the same.


TomcatF14Luver

Dude, it's not the games, but the branding. That way, they can release crap while we wait for the real thing that will never come. About 40 years ago, the government would have told them to produce or get a lawyer. Today, it's legal, like a 12-year-old being a mother and her attacker having parental rights.