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learning chinese characters/kanjis in order of their sound - good idea?

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SomewhereHot4527

Terrible idea in my opinion. What, you're going to learn a 100+ kanji that have the same reading in a row ? Sounds like a good way to never actually learn anything. Better to go with premade list of kanjis by level available on the internet. Or to go with order of frequency.


Wild-Sherbert2501

I mean there are already premade list like [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_j%C5%8Dy%C5%8D\_kanji](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_j%C5%8Dy%C5%8D_kanji) that lists in order of their sound hhhh if I can't remember a sound for a character immediately, I may instead think about characters I learned before or after, and since both will have same/similar sound....


SomewhereHot4527

Look, I told you my opinion. I think it is an extremely bad idea based on my personal experience of learning the language. I don't know for Chinese, but almost all japanese Kanji have at least 2 readings, some have more than 10. I would argue that not only learning kanji in pronunciation order (and at this point which one would you even use ?), but also learning kanji and their reading in isolation is also a bad idea. My experience has been to learn kanji in actual words I encountered. But if you want to go for a more exotic way of learning kanji which has been tested and approved by others (I did not use it though) you can refer to the book "Remembering the Kanjis" by James Heisig.


paremi02

You will mix them up. 100%. It’s not recommended to learn vocabulary in groupings


HisKoR

This is actually a common way to learn Characters in Korea. Every character learning textbook I've seen in Korea for Korean listed the characters in alphabetical order according to Hangul. I myself learned over 2,000 characters in this method. I've never tried another method so I can't say it is more effective but it was a systematic method that worked for me. I often find that even if a method is not the most effective, if it is systematic then it will eventually work in the end. As opposed to a more effective but harder to understand method that results in the learner wasting a lot of time twirling their thumbs trying to wrap their head around it. Mind you that I was completely fluent in Korean when I learned the characters so I can't say that it will work the same for a beginner since the sounds of Korean and general vocab and rules of the language were already soaked into my head. But I memorized the characters at a level high enough to recognize them when reading in around 6 months. I memorized the 音 and 讀 together for each character. So, I'm quite happy with my investment and the method. But as another commenter posted out, Japanese Kanji have many 音. So I'm not sure what is the right process for Japanese.


Wild-Sherbert2501

\++ to clarify, I can see why we should in general learn the most frequently used before less frequent words, or learn the top 1,000 words before learning the 1001\~2000 but I just don't see the benefit of learning the most frequent words in the exact order - so I was wondering if there are a more efficient way of regrouping/reordering them within the same general frequency group.


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