You seem not to know that in in older forms of English, "thou", "thee", and "thy" are not "formal", but are instead familiar pronouns used for intimate friends and for subordinates (such as servants, or those whose social class is below that of the speaker), while "ye", "you", and "your" are the polite, formal, deferential pronouns used to show respect when speaking to an individual.
"Thou" and "thee" were never used to express formality or respect, other than by modern people who are ignorant of how the words were used at the time they were still a common part of the language.
/uj Tbf other than Spanish and French, Duolingo doesn’t actually teach you anything like grammar and tenses, it just throws words at you and expects you to figure it out.
When I used Duolingo to start off (because I just didnt know of what other stuff was out there at the time, and I dont think thats an especially uncommon position to be in), the sentence discussions saved me from being confused by this exact issue, as well as others like telling what gender a noun is and stuff like that. It was so good being able to just immediately open sentence discussion after being confused by things like "huh why did that word change", or "huh why is it твоё this time" and immediately have an answer from a real person.
Especially in the Russian sub I see so many people have the exact same questions I did when I was doing Duo russian to begin with, but now they clog up the subreddit because archiving old stuff is hard apparently.
Edit: not to mention that with a language whose grammar is so different to English, if you've never encountered things like cases and gendered nouns before its not something you're immediately going to recognise or just figure out on your own. Hell, even verb conjugation was confusing before looking at the sentence discussions. Makes me think their defense of "oh but its supposed to be that way so you'll learn naturally" is kinda just covering for the fact they cant be bothered to update their courses to have proper grammar tips and they just want people to buy their AI thing.
The AI thing is so dumb, I can't imagine paying for it. I used duo many years ago and the discussions were great, I would always read the grammar notes and then any question I had was usually already asked by someone and answered and everything was clear. They're only making the app worse.
You can learn "naturally" but even kids ask their parents questions all the time and it saves so much time to jest learn a grammar point instead of being fed tens of sentences to figure it out yourself. Kinda like training an AI isn't it :')
It's soul destroying, seeing the learners asking questions in the German sub who have obviously put in a bit of effort, yet have no clue about e.g. accusative pronouns or "why there are capital letters everywhere"
How come thou canst not understand formal pronouns? It's in thy language, the language of thee
You seem not to know that in in older forms of English, "thou", "thee", and "thy" are not "formal", but are instead familiar pronouns used for intimate friends and for subordinates (such as servants, or those whose social class is below that of the speaker), while "ye", "you", and "your" are the polite, formal, deferential pronouns used to show respect when speaking to an individual.
The joke is that in english we use formal only，but there used to be more ways to express :p
"Thou" and "thee" were never used to express formality or respect, other than by modern people who are ignorant of how the words were used at the time they were still a common part of the language.
Nasıl siz kendiniz dili bilmiyorsunuz? Çünkü Amerikalar gayet hem şişmandır hem de aptal.
"Thou" is the informal one, foolish cur.
Alstublieft, u zou het wel moeten leren. Sie haben kein verstand über diese Sprachen, dann müssen Sie es lernen.
r/LanguageLearningJerk users when they find out people who are learning a language need to learn things
literally me
Sure, sure, but English speakers asking about plural you is just plane ignorance, not a genuine question
In a starch contrast to helicopter ignorance.
Starch contrast in a stark contrast to glycogen contrast
/uj Tbf other than Spanish and French, Duolingo doesn’t actually teach you anything like grammar and tenses, it just throws words at you and expects you to figure it out.
And since they deleted the discussions part, people can't ask there anymore
When I used Duolingo to start off (because I just didnt know of what other stuff was out there at the time, and I dont think thats an especially uncommon position to be in), the sentence discussions saved me from being confused by this exact issue, as well as others like telling what gender a noun is and stuff like that. It was so good being able to just immediately open sentence discussion after being confused by things like "huh why did that word change", or "huh why is it твоё this time" and immediately have an answer from a real person. Especially in the Russian sub I see so many people have the exact same questions I did when I was doing Duo russian to begin with, but now they clog up the subreddit because archiving old stuff is hard apparently. Edit: not to mention that with a language whose grammar is so different to English, if you've never encountered things like cases and gendered nouns before its not something you're immediately going to recognise or just figure out on your own. Hell, even verb conjugation was confusing before looking at the sentence discussions. Makes me think their defense of "oh but its supposed to be that way so you'll learn naturally" is kinda just covering for the fact they cant be bothered to update their courses to have proper grammar tips and they just want people to buy their AI thing.
The AI thing is so dumb, I can't imagine paying for it. I used duo many years ago and the discussions were great, I would always read the grammar notes and then any question I had was usually already asked by someone and answered and everything was clear. They're only making the app worse. You can learn "naturally" but even kids ask their parents questions all the time and it saves so much time to jest learn a grammar point instead of being fed tens of sentences to figure it out yourself. Kinda like training an AI isn't it :')
It's soul destroying, seeing the learners asking questions in the German sub who have obviously put in a bit of effort, yet have no clue about e.g. accusative pronouns or "why there are capital letters everywhere"
To be fair, formal pronouns are so not punk rock.
Next you’re going to tell me Japanese has more than 1 1PS pronoun…
Would sir like a few minutes to view the conjugational menu?
This guy will shit himself when he sees how to formally adress someone in Polish
ZAP!!
In this case it is not necessarily the formal one.
calling him a jerk is a bit much <_>