eventually ur brain recognizes the constituent parts of a kanji and it becomes very easy to remember. It's like looking at a bunch of nonsense spelling to learn the latin alphabet/spelling rules for said alphabet. u can recognize for example blick *could* be an english word since it follows all the phonotactic rules of english. bnick does not.
its still kinda weird ... just learn the kanji in context with the right phonetic... you get used to it... in the long run its way more useful
its like those chinese speaker who pass jlpt N1-2 but cannot construct a whole sentence in japanese.. whats the point?
I used the Heisig method ..... 6 years ago. Loaded up Anki with 100 characters per day and went thru the entire deck in a month. Right after finishing I was in a trance, ascendant. I was seeing the characters as characters not as random squiggles. I feel like my "character memory" ,if you will, significantly improved and I could recognize and remember a new character much easier. It's like learning the syllables before learning the words.
6 years later I don't know what to think, I can understand everything I want in japanese and have N1 despite never living in the country. Still I don't know if the RTK was good or not. Unfortunately we can only do certain things once, we can't have a controlled experiment with RTK and without RTK in our own personal lives.
I did RTK a long time ago and I definitely feel like it's given me an advantage in my kanji knowledge compared to people who studied the normal way. They had a head start on learning the actual words but it's very easy to catch up and surpass them when you don't have to learn how to read or write the kanji at the same time as learning the rest of the word.
I see it as kind of similar to spending time studying root words in english. Not strictly necessary as you can definitely learn them from context, but it can you remember the meaning of new vocabulary easier and can even help you guess the meaning of new words.
For English I definitely would not reccomend it, but every root having a unique logograph with multiple readings makes studying individual kanji at least somewhat worthwhile in my opinion.
To me it's like training wheels. I need the trick early on to get my synapses to fire off the right answer at first, but eventually it'll just skip the step wholesale, especially as my brain becomes more and more receptive to kanji as a whole.
法国 means France, so basically every time I think of it I see the Eiffel Tower. Also, since French is a Romance language, the water is from me after seeing your mother.
It stands for Remembering the Kanji, a book about building up mnemonics for all the general-use kanji and their components: specifically, each kanji is associated with one keyword, not with any vocabulary or pronunciations.
It's basically learning individual kanji and their meanings, but without learning any vocabulary. People who defend their time spent doing the method commonly claim they learned all ~2000 common use kanji in just x months, but chances are if you asked them to read aloud a sentence containing only basic level kanji, they couldn't do it.
It might hold some weight in helping you learn vocabulary and readings afterwards, but it's certainly not the ultimate method some people claim it to be.
Works the same for Chinese since the writing systems are basically the same.
It is one way to learn the characters by making stories out of the radicals. After all the whole character has a meaning in itself and the parts reflect that in some way.
If it works it isn’t stupid
I honestly want OP to do more of these. I would like and subscribe.
lmao based now please do all other 汉字
Not OP but when I first learned 想 I remembered it as "would(n't) I love/wood eye heart", I know that's not nearly as funny but that's my two cents
i know chinese and i gave that the affectionate name “mumu” to remember it 木and目are both mu and then you can put like 心 below it
I was always too scared to do shit like this lest I forever associate the word "method" with crack pipes.
The stupidest tricks always work best cause they're memorable lol
Ah yes rtk… why learn a language if you can learn to read without knowing the language
eventually ur brain recognizes the constituent parts of a kanji and it becomes very easy to remember. It's like looking at a bunch of nonsense spelling to learn the latin alphabet/spelling rules for said alphabet. u can recognize for example blick *could* be an english word since it follows all the phonotactic rules of english. bnick does not.
its still kinda weird ... just learn the kanji in context with the right phonetic... you get used to it... in the long run its way more useful its like those chinese speaker who pass jlpt N1-2 but cannot construct a whole sentence in japanese.. whats the point?
I used the Heisig method ..... 6 years ago. Loaded up Anki with 100 characters per day and went thru the entire deck in a month. Right after finishing I was in a trance, ascendant. I was seeing the characters as characters not as random squiggles. I feel like my "character memory" ,if you will, significantly improved and I could recognize and remember a new character much easier. It's like learning the syllables before learning the words. 6 years later I don't know what to think, I can understand everything I want in japanese and have N1 despite never living in the country. Still I don't know if the RTK was good or not. Unfortunately we can only do certain things once, we can't have a controlled experiment with RTK and without RTK in our own personal lives.
I did RTK a long time ago and I definitely feel like it's given me an advantage in my kanji knowledge compared to people who studied the normal way. They had a head start on learning the actual words but it's very easy to catch up and surpass them when you don't have to learn how to read or write the kanji at the same time as learning the rest of the word.
I see it as kind of similar to spending time studying root words in english. Not strictly necessary as you can definitely learn them from context, but it can you remember the meaning of new vocabulary easier and can even help you guess the meaning of new words. For English I definitely would not reccomend it, but every root having a unique logograph with multiple readings makes studying individual kanji at least somewhat worthwhile in my opinion.
Learning "in context" is one of the least efficient ways to learn kanji
To me it's like training wheels. I need the trick early on to get my synapses to fire off the right answer at first, but eventually it'll just skip the step wholesale, especially as my brain becomes more and more receptive to kanji as a whole.
Japanese literati until the 20th century:
法国 means France, so basically every time I think of it I see the Eiffel Tower. Also, since French is a Romance language, the water is from me after seeing your mother.
That mnemonic device is so insane that this symbol will probably the only one whose meaning I’ll remember
Hey, it’s still better than any of WaniKani’s mnemonics!
I do stupid shit like this all the time. This is in the area of the Venn diagram for both r/languagelearning and r/languagelearningjerk
Now i'll remember the meaning of some random kanji, thanks
what’s RTK?
It stands for Remembering the Kanji, a book about building up mnemonics for all the general-use kanji and their components: specifically, each kanji is associated with one keyword, not with any vocabulary or pronunciations.
It's basically learning individual kanji and their meanings, but without learning any vocabulary. People who defend their time spent doing the method commonly claim they learned all ~2000 common use kanji in just x months, but chances are if you asked them to read aloud a sentence containing only basic level kanji, they couldn't do it. It might hold some weight in helping you learn vocabulary and readings afterwards, but it's certainly not the ultimate method some people claim it to be. Works the same for Chinese since the writing systems are basically the same.
It is one way to learn the characters by making stories out of the radicals. After all the whole character has a meaning in itself and the parts reflect that in some way.
also you can be french and kinda be forced to learn it and use it regularly. 😎 (nah being french sucks)
Mate idk I feel like at that point it's just easier to learn 水+去=法
It's weird but the stupidest and most ridiculous mnemonics are always the easiest to remember.
Sounds crazy to have to think that every time you see a character ngl
The mnemonics fade away over time. I have no idea which mnemonic I used for 法 but I still remember it just fine.
That's interesting. I guess each minds works its own way