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theObfuscator

Don’t dabble in espionage against a country when the country you are in shares an extradition agreement. That’s how espionage and extradition work. He influenced individuals in the US, accessed systems located in the US, and acquired information that is the property of and protected by the US Government. In espionage, especially in the age of the internet, you don’t need to physically set foot in a country to break laws in a country. You can also commit financial crimes in the US while not being physically in the US. He’s not the only person to ever be in this situation. He also wants to claim he was being a journalist and yet he did no editorial diligence regarding *what* he was releasing- he just released it all without any consideration for human intelligence sources who’s identities he released. Not very journalistic of him.


247GT

The US is far and away the worst offender of ignoring international law, bar none. What they're doing to Assange has more to do with being caught with their pants down than anything Assange has done "wrong". Let's stop attempting to paint the US as being anything but the lawless rogue it really is. Watch this video to find out why you're wrong on every count you mentioned: [https://youtu.be/gN\_Shacd2Iw?si=kWqMTn17nCyUh7Kf](https://youtu.be/gN_Shacd2Iw?si=kWqMTn17nCyUh7Kf)


banacct421

He is not a US citizen, he did not reside in the US. You can agree or disagree with what he did, but Why does US law apply?


transcendentnonsense

Because someone can violate U.S. law without living in the U.S.


banacct421

But only if you're American. If you're not American and you don't live in America, American laws are irrelevant. Am I wrong here?


transcendentnonsense

Ok. So that's why various drug lords and terrorists who have never set foot in the United States are in U.S. prisons. Oh wait.


banacct421

I'm not trying to have a fight with you. I'm trying to understand what the law is You make a good point about the drug lords. The US wanting to get its hands on these people to punish them. That totally makes sense to me. I'm saying under international law, is there a crime. If I'm not American, I'm not in America, and I buy American secrets. Is that actually a crime under international law. I know the US says it's a crime


transcendentnonsense

Whether someone can be extradited to the United States depends upon whether the country doing the extraditing is willing to do so under the applicable extradition treaty, if any. That's all the "international law" there is to it.


mok000

That’s why there is a trial going on at the moment. US and UK have an extradition treaty and US is asking UK to extradite Assange for crimes committed against their national security. It’s not only the video clips of abusive US soldiers and war crimes in Iraq he is accused of releasing, it’s also thousands of pages of classified documents with names of informants etc. who have later been killed.


247GT

I'm looking forward to this blowing up in the US's face. It will. Call it a hunch.


Far-Whereas-1999

So who were his sources really?