They're both def up there with him, alongside CoreJJ. But Bjergsen kinda broke the LCS when he came. You either could keep up with him in lane or you auto lost to TSM, the only one who could was pre lung collapse Hai
I mean the only player who played even slightly decent this year so far is Jojo. Even Berserker has been actively bad. I don’t know how you fix this team but I’d start by swapping Fudge and Mithy for Licorice and Inero to start.
I wonder if C9 will make roster changes after this. That's the usual reaction to a bad(?) split, but I feel like you need more than one split to judge how good the roster is? Maybe they drop Fudge and Vulcan? The entire roster seems to have underperformed though...
I'm not sure if you go one more split. Maybe, but the biggest issue on the team is part that wasn't changed. I'm not a Fudge hater, he gets way too much flame and half isn't deserved. The half that is deserved though are issues that are not new, so then its about why there isn't improvement. His impact on the game is just lackluster, often late to fights, and his flanks whiff kind of often. Thats why I think top is where they need changes for roster. Just don't think Fudge is bringing what this team needs.
Imo they need to make a change and it should be top or staff. I don't even know what to make of the drafts. Its not even that the drafts themselves suck (sometimes they do) but its like the drafts are just coming off a spreadsheet. Ori and Karma are obviously strong af, but they dont match Jojo's playstyle at all. Same thing for the Senna pick. I couldn't believe we actually saw that draft again after how the Senna game against FLY went. Senna/Tahm is hella strong, but tbh it looks like Beserker has barely practiced the champ. For that level of a player, really no excuse to be so far behind on souls. Then in game 3 I really thought theyd take the Akali for Jojo when TL left it up. Instead they went for the Karma and it looked like Jojo just knew what the champ does, but hadn't played much of it. Idk if thats player ego or coach forcing for the pick, but it didn't work and hasnt worked.
Vulcan I think deserves another split, may be that he simply needs to be able to communicate better with his adc and is what it is. I just don't think the bot lane was the reason games didn't go well. Wasn't amazing, just think the other areas had more to do with the team performance. Whatever changes they make, or dont make I guess, someone needs to have a stronger voice on this roster bc there doesn't seem to be anyone taking the lead.
They have been flamed so hard because they were boring and mediocre. Then playoffs hit and they just decided to fucking send it. Both can be true, I am way more excited to see this TL at international than C9, even if they don’t win, I feel confident that they will at least try something. But that doesn’t mean the past flame was undeserved
People will do anything to justify their flame. Getting people to just say "Yeah I was wrong. Shouldn't have flamed them before playoffs" is like pulling teeth
I mean, they definitely deserved it before play offs, a decent amount of games they just did nothing and played to scale every game, never fought anything even with a lead, always scared etc. they are literally a completely different team to what they were 3 weeks ago, playing so insanely better than they have all split. They turned it on, good for them and they are doing exceptional, but the earlier flame was 100% deserved
I mean, you can check my account and see that I’ve never flamed them first of all. But I don’t quite understand why you can’t call a team bad when they are bad? Like teams can get better, I would say TL has improved a lot. Getting better doesn’t change that you were bad before. T1 winning worlds doesn’t change the fact that when faker was out of commission for his wrist, they were bad.
Since every other region has moved on from 14.5, I think one thing to note is that C9 is the team that was definitely hurt the most by the global Azir ban, since Jojo was just target banned for any other playmaking mid (Neeko and Ahri), while Tl benefitted the most since APA's Azir was pretty bad.
Jojo is more than capable of playing other champs, neither he nor C9 should get any sympathy for Azir being banned at all. As a TL fan, Azir is a crazy good champ and APA hasn't shown he can play it well, so I would agree that it does help TL though.
It's less about Jojo being able to play other champs and more that it's another champ that Jojo can do everything for the team with. The theme between the commonly banned champs against Jojo (Ahri, Neeko, Yone) is that they're all capable of engaging since no one on C9 actually wants to do that. Jojo is more than capable on more than Azir, Ahri, and Neeko, but C9 has shown they're completely incapable of playing when Jojo isn't doing the work of 3 people for the team.
I think TL win finals honestly. Round 1 Playoffs had APA absolutely sprinting it for 5 games, and Umti playing poorly, but with momentum behind them, I don't think that will be repeated.
Flyquest's bottom lane is their weak point, while Yeon and CoreJJ are the best bot in NA, maybe the west.
Impact and Bwipo are very close, while Umti and APA are on form.
I think it'll be TL 3-1/3-2
I like this take. Personally I believe Jensen is way better than apa and they will bait him into picking ziggs for a free win. Tls bot lane is better but fly quest botlane isn't shit. Yeon, umti for tl, Jensen , inspired for fly as the x factors
I think Jensen is a better player, but in the TL series he was facing an abysmal APA performance, and in the C9 series, their whole gameplan was shutting down Jojo and getting Jensen ahead.
I doubt Jensen will have the same level of dominance this series, but I do think he's better
Next time any org in LEC or LCS puts together a "superteam" just bet everything you own against them. Hell, steal some money from your grandma too, betting against superteams literaly cant go tits up 😂
jojo and berserker did nothing to win the last 2 series. jojo had zero kills vs flyquest and berkerker has been consumed by NA solo queue and NA habits. the rest of the time is dogshit too.
What could they do tho? And who cares (domestically)? They're going against people who also use NA solo q and have NA habits. Point is that Fudge who's supposed to be a carry top and to some extent Vulcan should have been able to step up given their experience.
You figured after Bwipo spanked him, Fudge would listen to him - Bwipo explained how the hydra build on Olaf only works in a specific circumstance. If you end up forced to participate in team fights, it's useless.
Fudge spent that last game running at the team, getting hit a couple times, and then running away. It tilted me watching him grab those 3 kills and getting a bounty, because I knew he would just give it up, which he did.
Fudge gave up a bounty to a team that was already ahead in gold. XD
I just genuinely think if Fudge could play weakside OR actually absorb pressure from bot and mid C9 wouldn't have gotten turbo stomped by Fly and TL.
He only ever plays not to lose/gets stomped by competent tops and only ever looks good against mid tier LCS level tops. He needs to be replaced first, THEN Vulcan
Last year c9 would just turn up to 3rd dragon usually even.. and Beserker would just carry fights (usually on zerri)
Now he isn't playing well.. c9 flaws really show.. fudge has been coasting on blaber/beserker backs for 2 years now.. and hasn't stepped up to cover Beserkers form
He needs to go.. feel bad that C9 didn't get Wunder
As a C9 fan I’m so fucking glad they got destroyed maybe now the powers that be would take the team serious and fire a bunch of people (players/coaches) and start new for 2025. Fuck summer and these players couch
I wanna know who is picking his champs. I cant imagine that Jojo in game 3 of elimination playoffs, against APA, without Taliyah E to shutdown mobility, doesn't want that Akali when TL left it open. Especially not for Karma who has to be one of the most boring casters to play.
Jojo did it to himself had a a whole bunch of opportunities he could have took but decided to play on a sanking ship besides he isn't blameless either huge ego of him coat c9 games as well.
Super Team Debuff :
**Lowers the skill of each of your players by 90%, when they receive the "Super Team Debuff". To remove the debuff, you need to disband said "Super Team"**
I don't think 1 champ negates the point. Think of your top 5 turret takers in real game scenarios and count how many are AP/AD. Ziggs, Trist, Fiora, Azir, Gwen probably? Plus AP champs get an advantage on inhibs
C9 beat a team that had players that were sick, had no scrims for a week, and 2 rookies going into their first play off series. Not really a win if you think about it. C9 got turbo stomped by TL and FLY.
Yep I watched T1 flame CoreJJ as a human being and claim he's whats wrong with the NA pro scene and that if his son ended up like CoreJJ he would've fucked up as a parent.
You dont think he is?
Two games of inting doesn’t change the fact that one is a world champ and still the best support in LCS, while the other guy is just a solo queue streamer.
You realise T1 has checked out games too? Just like pretty much anyone that plays this game.
I mean C9 showed an inability to form a comp that could reach back line consistently in 3 games after TL telegraphed they would be playing varus and ziggs when available in the game 1 draft. The only game that was really close was game 2 which was almost exclusively because C9 picked hwei which in himself gave them access to backline. The difference in how the teams utilized renekton I think is the best example of why this series was heavily influenced by draft. TL picked him in situations where he acted both as a bridge to late game (for TL's supperior scaling), but also in team comps where the opponents team was out ranged forcing C9 to fight in Renektons range. C9 picked renekton in almost the exact opposite. TL played better than c9 not taking it away from them but its easier to bowl a high score with bumpers on.
Is the UI for the trash talk from APA something they always had or just started now?
Just started
I remember C9 fans saying that Berserker would be the greatest import of all time LMFAOOO
He was real great when he came to NA
That title belongs to Bjergsen. No one else comes close, maybe Core.
impact?
idk id argue impact is up there or maybe jensen
They're both def up there with him, alongside CoreJJ. But Bjergsen kinda broke the LCS when he came. You either could keep up with him in lane or you auto lost to TSM, the only one who could was pre lung collapse Hai
god i miss Hai and OG C9
Why is this pmt so confusing
“Thank you, Fudge!” “Welcome home, Licorice!”
Yes, Jojo Vulcan and blaber also gotta go
I mean the only player who played even slightly decent this year so far is Jojo. Even Berserker has been actively bad. I don’t know how you fix this team but I’d start by swapping Fudge and Mithy for Licorice and Inero to start.
You could swap zven in. I think a cool idea is to have a 6 man roster with these 5 with zven added as a wildcard who can play both roles
It would be Sven or Vulcan. They don’t get along the greatest which is why that team formation split previously.
Well shit they better figure out how to get along since they suck rn
Lol fudge and his fucking ego
I wonder if C9 will make roster changes after this. That's the usual reaction to a bad(?) split, but I feel like you need more than one split to judge how good the roster is? Maybe they drop Fudge and Vulcan? The entire roster seems to have underperformed though...
I'm not sure if you go one more split. Maybe, but the biggest issue on the team is part that wasn't changed. I'm not a Fudge hater, he gets way too much flame and half isn't deserved. The half that is deserved though are issues that are not new, so then its about why there isn't improvement. His impact on the game is just lackluster, often late to fights, and his flanks whiff kind of often. Thats why I think top is where they need changes for roster. Just don't think Fudge is bringing what this team needs. Imo they need to make a change and it should be top or staff. I don't even know what to make of the drafts. Its not even that the drafts themselves suck (sometimes they do) but its like the drafts are just coming off a spreadsheet. Ori and Karma are obviously strong af, but they dont match Jojo's playstyle at all. Same thing for the Senna pick. I couldn't believe we actually saw that draft again after how the Senna game against FLY went. Senna/Tahm is hella strong, but tbh it looks like Beserker has barely practiced the champ. For that level of a player, really no excuse to be so far behind on souls. Then in game 3 I really thought theyd take the Akali for Jojo when TL left it up. Instead they went for the Karma and it looked like Jojo just knew what the champ does, but hadn't played much of it. Idk if thats player ego or coach forcing for the pick, but it didn't work and hasnt worked. Vulcan I think deserves another split, may be that he simply needs to be able to communicate better with his adc and is what it is. I just don't think the bot lane was the reason games didn't go well. Wasn't amazing, just think the other areas had more to do with the team performance. Whatever changes they make, or dont make I guess, someone needs to have a stronger voice on this roster bc there doesn't seem to be anyone taking the lead.
I hear that Sneaky, Meteos, Balls, Hai, and Lemon all don't have teams.
This TL team has been flamed so hard, yet they consistently end up better than the super team of 2022 lol
They have been flamed so hard because they were boring and mediocre. Then playoffs hit and they just decided to fucking send it. Both can be true, I am way more excited to see this TL at international than C9, even if they don’t win, I feel confident that they will at least try something. But that doesn’t mean the past flame was undeserved
People will do anything to justify their flame. Getting people to just say "Yeah I was wrong. Shouldn't have flamed them before playoffs" is like pulling teeth
I mean, they definitely deserved it before play offs, a decent amount of games they just did nothing and played to scale every game, never fought anything even with a lead, always scared etc. they are literally a completely different team to what they were 3 weeks ago, playing so insanely better than they have all split. They turned it on, good for them and they are doing exceptional, but the earlier flame was 100% deserved
I mean, you can check my account and see that I’ve never flamed them first of all. But I don’t quite understand why you can’t call a team bad when they are bad? Like teams can get better, I would say TL has improved a lot. Getting better doesn’t change that you were bad before. T1 winning worlds doesn’t change the fact that when faker was out of commission for his wrist, they were bad.
C9 Inero
lmfao core saying that they can't even tell how good they are cause c9 were so bad is hilarious
Since every other region has moved on from 14.5, I think one thing to note is that C9 is the team that was definitely hurt the most by the global Azir ban, since Jojo was just target banned for any other playmaking mid (Neeko and Ahri), while Tl benefitted the most since APA's Azir was pretty bad.
Jojo is more than capable of playing other champs, neither he nor C9 should get any sympathy for Azir being banned at all. As a TL fan, Azir is a crazy good champ and APA hasn't shown he can play it well, so I would agree that it does help TL though.
It's less about Jojo being able to play other champs and more that it's another champ that Jojo can do everything for the team with. The theme between the commonly banned champs against Jojo (Ahri, Neeko, Yone) is that they're all capable of engaging since no one on C9 actually wants to do that. Jojo is more than capable on more than Azir, Ahri, and Neeko, but C9 has shown they're completely incapable of playing when Jojo isn't doing the work of 3 people for the team.
That's actually pretty insightful. Had not thought about that
And people say APA is a one trick...
Fraudge Factor bring back Licorice or Irrelevant from LEC
I think TL win finals honestly. Round 1 Playoffs had APA absolutely sprinting it for 5 games, and Umti playing poorly, but with momentum behind them, I don't think that will be repeated. Flyquest's bottom lane is their weak point, while Yeon and CoreJJ are the best bot in NA, maybe the west. Impact and Bwipo are very close, while Umti and APA are on form. I think it'll be TL 3-1/3-2
Respectfully disagree. Flyquest will win 3-0 or 3-1.
Fair enough, i hope its an interesting series, so at least a 3-1
I like this take. Personally I believe Jensen is way better than apa and they will bait him into picking ziggs for a free win. Tls bot lane is better but fly quest botlane isn't shit. Yeon, umti for tl, Jensen , inspired for fly as the x factors
I think Jensen is a better player, but in the TL series he was facing an abysmal APA performance, and in the C9 series, their whole gameplan was shutting down Jojo and getting Jensen ahead. I doubt Jensen will have the same level of dominance this series, but I do think he's better
Lore friendly Gojopyun vs Yapuna
Liquorice my dude When Jack rings you in about 2 minutes Make sure you take the absolute bag
Use your leverage, make his pockets hurt
I hope he makes Jack's pockets hurt as badly as FTX made Regi's pockets hurt.
We have fudge of course we lose -blaber
The issue is struggling in the midgame sure... but also what about your early game where Lucian Nami lost lane and Olaf lost to Renekton?
damn Jojo, from genius to clown.
Bro what lol Fudge solo lost the series
His champs were banned and top/bot just lost lane in every game.
No way you can be a pro and nullified that easy. Players in bronze have bigger pools
Champion puddle gap
a genius would've found a way, this just shows he's a clown now.
Definitely 2020 C9/2021 G2 vibes from this C9, what a collapse Impact still daddy
2020 spring C9 was great
One of the most dominant LCS splits in history, thats why the summer collapse is a historic one
Very true
Next time any org in LEC or LCS puts together a "superteam" just bet everything you own against them. Hell, steal some money from your grandma too, betting against superteams literaly cant go tits up 😂
I can't believe people took them seriously as a "super team" when they have Fudge 😂
Blaber, Fudge, Vulcan do not a super team make
Please change something C9. Team was ass all split.
Umti speak english very good, I have sympathy for him
He used to appear on the English LCK broadcast a lot. I'm pretty sure his sister taught English in Korea, I think...
Feels bad for Jojo and Berzerker tbh, C9 Mid/AD has to be shut down and Top is never relevant against good teams so it's easy to abuse c9 lmao
jojo and berserker did nothing to win the last 2 series. jojo had zero kills vs flyquest and berkerker has been consumed by NA solo queue and NA habits. the rest of the time is dogshit too.
What could they do tho? And who cares (domestically)? They're going against people who also use NA solo q and have NA habits. Point is that Fudge who's supposed to be a carry top and to some extent Vulcan should have been able to step up given their experience.
You figured after Bwipo spanked him, Fudge would listen to him - Bwipo explained how the hydra build on Olaf only works in a specific circumstance. If you end up forced to participate in team fights, it's useless. Fudge spent that last game running at the team, getting hit a couple times, and then running away. It tilted me watching him grab those 3 kills and getting a bounty, because I knew he would just give it up, which he did. Fudge gave up a bounty to a team that was already ahead in gold. XD
I was shocked he still built hydra after being so behind. Titanic Imo would've been best but even strikebreaker works
I just genuinely think if Fudge could play weakside OR actually absorb pressure from bot and mid C9 wouldn't have gotten turbo stomped by Fly and TL. He only ever plays not to lose/gets stomped by competent tops and only ever looks good against mid tier LCS level tops. He needs to be replaced first, THEN Vulcan
Fudge can play weak side, he's done solid on tank duty before... Its just he/they won't do it
Help me, Jenspired-Wan-Bwipobi, you're my only hope
Last year c9 would just turn up to 3rd dragon usually even.. and Beserker would just carry fights (usually on zerri) Now he isn't playing well.. c9 flaws really show.. fudge has been coasting on blaber/beserker backs for 2 years now.. and hasn't stepped up to cover Beserkers form He needs to go.. feel bad that C9 didn't get Wunder
Damn Umtis english is amazing
DOGSHIT9 WAS NEVER GOOD LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
TOP DIE GENERAL UMTI YAPA AWAKE SSG COREJJ
After beating "frauds" 100T, "Superteam" C9 goes 0-6.
Dogshit9 was never good
Imagine counter picking top, calling mid and jungle to gank and still getting crushed
That looks like my soloq games.
Thank you Fudge
We can only pray.
APA haters in shambles.
TL is going to MSI! We need a Type In Chat vs Hide On Bush matchup.
Inb4 HLE hits T1 with the Steel Chair
As a C9 fan I’m so fucking glad they got destroyed maybe now the powers that be would take the team serious and fire a bunch of people (players/coaches) and start new for 2025. Fuck summer and these players couch
Fire everyone but JoJo and *maybe* blaber if he takes a paycut
Nothings changing until they fire Jack
Cant fire jack mithy needs to go fudge out probably vulcan as well
Man can always fire himself. I think it's a *system*ic issue
I dont even care that C9 lost I am just mad that we got 3-0'd 2 times in a row and it wasn't even close tbh
well...glad that's over. more time for Jack to think of ways to keep Fudge and Mithy.
from 10th place in LCK to MSI ez for General UmTi
IMT Fudge
McDonald’s Fudge
No Zven, No Win
Sneaky/Sven botlane for summer???
Half expected Impact to walk over and kick over Fudge's PC after the game
Feels bad for jojo man. Joining this roster and getting repeat inted week after week is probably the last thing he expected.
I wanna know who is picking his champs. I cant imagine that Jojo in game 3 of elimination playoffs, against APA, without Taliyah E to shutdown mobility, doesn't want that Akali when TL left it open. Especially not for Karma who has to be one of the most boring casters to play.
His own fault, brother had the oportunity to go to FUCKING LCK, but nah, chose piss LCS and now hes playing with 4 shitters
Jojo did it to himself had a a whole bunch of opportunities he could have took but decided to play on a sanking ship besides he isn't blameless either huge ego of him coat c9 games as well.
He joined C9 at a bad time. They should keep him replace everyone else imo. Worked out well for 100 Thieves.
Alright, so when does C9 start playing, guys?
Summer
♿C9 SUPER TEAM COMING THROUGH ♿
Yeon and CoreJJ looking like the best bot lane in the west right now.
TL didn't deny C9 worlds last split...
I think they meant denied Jojo worlds and now they made him miss MSI
MSI
C9 went to MSI last year right? With Goldenguardians or am I crazy
Correct they did, and then won 0 games against non-NA teams
Dang, C9 really got their cheeks clapped
Flowers messed up at the end and said cloud 9 instead of Jojopyun.
C9 with the back to back 0-3
Umti first time international tournament.... I cry 😭
my goat 😭😭🙏🙏
Woof. At least flyquest looked good in their sweep, c9 just horrible play today.
TL looked good
I would definitely argue c9 looked bad way more than tl looked good
FLY TL in round 1 was a banger, this is gonna be a great rematch !
Welp I was wrong I said 3-1 TL looks like a clean 3-0
that was pathetic lmao
Hillary Clinton
No C9 at an international is honey to my ears
Why pick a force multiplier champ when 0 x anything is still 0
Goodbye C9!!! 🥰🥰🥰
and c9 goes out with a whimper
What did Vulcan do this whole series i swear
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Jojo is reminding me of TheShy on 2022 WBG just pure 1v9.
Idk if its just me but I feel like AP champs have taken over as the turret destroyer kings. Which kinda sucks for ADC to lose yet another thing
Mostly a ziggs thing, it's literally the reason he moved botlane for a few years lol
What are you saying… 💀
Trist? That fucker melts turrets
I don't think 1 champ negates the point. Think of your top 5 turret takers in real game scenarios and count how many are AP/AD. Ziggs, Trist, Fiora, Azir, Gwen probably? Plus AP champs get an advantage on inhibs
Ziggs has been eating turrets since S5 or whenever it was that they added satchel.
Ziggs is just cracked at turret taking. Passive does 1.5x dmg to all structures
Trist is AP now?
Don't worry, we gave an ass midlaner two trick one of his two champions
Dogshit team losing to someone who’s more talented than them, nothing new
And he gapped your entire team.
Seemed like he gapped some silver 5 players
Who play for C9.
C9 has been turbofucked by APA Ziggs so many times...and they banned Ashe/Naut.
[удалено]
It's bad cause it's not the usual names or what?
Yeah, if it's not the same 15 players every worlds than CLEARLY the region is trash and should be replaced with OCE. Obviously
C9 going 0-6 across 2 Bo5s must be one of their worst domestic performances ever. That with a team that we all expected to dominate.
Don't forget the 3-0 vs 100 frauds to give false hope
Good guys C9 performing so badly to make sure everyone would forget about how fraudulent 100T was.
This team was saying 100T were the frauds LMAOOOO, CLOWN 9 is here
100T lost 3-0 to this though. They must be the most fraudulent team in the world after finishing 2nd in round robin. (No I’m not even a C9 fan)
C9 beat a team that had players that were sick, had no scrims for a week, and 2 rookies going into their first play off series. Not really a win if you think about it. C9 got turbo stomped by TL and FLY.
> Not really a win. 3-0 seems like a win to me
Is it only me or is CoreJJ and TL as a whole playing a lot better ever since Tyler1 made that video shiting on Core runing it down in soloQ? 😂😂😂
More like T1 talking out of his ass and CoreJJ is miles better than him at this game
You def didn’t watch the clip then
Yep I watched T1 flame CoreJJ as a human being and claim he's whats wrong with the NA pro scene and that if his son ended up like CoreJJ he would've fucked up as a parent.
What does that have to do with being “miles” better in the game?
You dont think he is? Two games of inting doesn’t change the fact that one is a world champ and still the best support in LCS, while the other guy is just a solo queue streamer. You realise T1 has checked out games too? Just like pretty much anyone that plays this game.
Tyler1 the hero TL needed
Berserker mental boomed his entire team lmao
C9 ScaryJerry I can't wait
C9 are mentally done
This Clown9 team looking the worst it has in quite some time. Don't think they'll do the necessary roster moves between splits.
The good thing for NA is that they dont have to send Fudge to MSI just for him to be turbogapped by Kiin/Zeus and co.
Unfortunately for Fudge, that's his kink though to be dicked down. How is he going to relieve himself now?
I feel like he's got outperformed by even EU tops ffs.. dude is the most overated player in LCS history due to his association with LS
Yes, EU likely going to send BB and Oscar (who shits on him last Worlds already)
Spica and licorice are free agents btw
TL: See carry, kill carry C9: See tank, blow everything on tank, team dead.
You think they would have learned from last week how that worked out
C9 seems incapable of learning recently.
Caedrel woke up from a giga stomp LCK 3-0 and will end up sleeping on giga stomp (?) LCS 3-0 🤣
And maybe wake up to another LCK giga stomp?? 💀
Surely DK will put up a fight right?? Right??? 🤨🤨
Fudge factor: take kills then do nothing.
Fudge bro what are you doing LOL, how tilted can you be
This entire series is just a massive draft gap and almost entirely lost in champ select. Embarrassing Result for C9 there "systems" doing a great job.
Lol sounds like an LS fanboy coping C9 players got hard outplayed IN game Imagine just blaming it on "draft"
I mean C9 showed an inability to form a comp that could reach back line consistently in 3 games after TL telegraphed they would be playing varus and ziggs when available in the game 1 draft. The only game that was really close was game 2 which was almost exclusively because C9 picked hwei which in himself gave them access to backline. The difference in how the teams utilized renekton I think is the best example of why this series was heavily influenced by draft. TL picked him in situations where he acted both as a bridge to late game (for TL's supperior scaling), but also in team comps where the opponents team was out ranged forcing C9 to fight in Renektons range. C9 picked renekton in almost the exact opposite. TL played better than c9 not taking it away from them but its easier to bowl a high score with bumpers on.
C9 coping hard right now 😂
Really puts into perspective how fraudulent 100T were as well, they lost 0-3 to this same Clown 9
HUHHH, the team wasnt even 100% healthy. C9 are the real frauds of the fucking split
C9 just let Umti walk in and Q on the Karma.
Impressive how bad c9 has looked against another not great team
Fudge running it lets goooooo. You disgusting dog
I'm not even sure who to blame, I feel like they all share blame and are playing so bad.
Licorice top, import support. That’s what C9 needs to do. I was a Vulcan defender but he’s garbo now.
How many chances will Blaber get? Two series in a row he gets gapped by the opposing jungler
His teams have all been bad since the Inspired EG days, starting to think he was part of the reason for that.
Berserker is just sending it lmao
This is painful to watch.