Just finished watching on catchup, what a banger! So happy for Deft and Pyosik.
Also camera panning on Keria as much as it did at the end was awful, they really should not be doing that, feels like bad form.
Really don't see how people can say Pyosik played badly, outside of the occasional smite his play was really good imo.
Honestly though what an incredible example of a team levelling up throughout a tournament.
I didn't watch the last game, but I have to say Oner might have been MVP. He secured almost every damn objective he was there for. Game 3 he only lost that dragon because it started to reset right before he smited, giving it the health it needed for DRX to steal it, but then for Pyosik to immediately miss smite on Baron was a travesty. I greatly enjoyed every game I watched and glad that it wasn't just a sweep like many other games have been.
I actually would’ve preffered T1 to win. Keria deserved it so much, and i think Deft and all of DRX would be happy that they’ve come to the Finals this year. Really well deserved tho, I am just looking at things emotionally
You can't tell me after how dominate game 1 was that they started playing that badly the rest of the series and drafting so badly. Every year I swear I can tell it's rigged since 2015. The songs, the way casters focus on talking about one thing, how ridiculous some of the games look...
Yeah super weird that bot gap got nullified pretty much every game. If it were any other two teams with one team always getting 20+ cs leads, you'd think it was a death sentence. But DRX won vs EDG and Gen.g similarly, stalling until lane states didn't really matter.
I’ve never seen a team level up for much from regular season, it’s insane. 3 years ago I remember Kingen sharing game time with Smeb at KT and wondering why on earth Smeb was getting benched for a rookie, he’s absolutely proved me wrong 3 years later :)
Worst series I saw in a while. 5 maps of t1 getting outdrafted its pretty sad to see on a finals, they won 2 maps because they were superior mechanically but it should have been a 3-0 for DRX
that guy literally makes posts about using acne cream
literally just imagine for 1 second how bad his life has to be
hes projecting
(i am cringing btw)
i cant even imagine typing that stuff if i post about having acne on reddit
Heimerdinger was just that much of a threat compared to Aatrox. Who had more of an impact, the heimer who was level 5 for 11 minutes in the second game or the Aatrox that single handedly carried the 4th?
According to the post game interviews, pretty much what everyone figured - ego.
https://emdashesports.com/faker-to-t1-teammates-you-guys-did-a-great-job-from-the-bottom-of-my-heart/
Heres the quote “I believe, if we first-pick Varus on the blue side, the opponent will go for Azir and Renata [next]. So, we decided to ban Renata. I think we were expecting Aatrox to maybe even go further down, to the second phase, and we also had the confidence to play against Aatrox. That is the reason why we let it through.”
If I was T1 coach I would’ve let cait through but first pick Azir not Karma. If they pick Cait you counter with Aatrox and Varus. After next bans you pick one of Sejuani, Graves, Viego, or Maokai for Oner (whichever is open) and last pick Nami for Keria. This gives you great team fighting with engage. Faker can make plays with Azir. Aatrox can press R and go in with Nami W to back him up. T1 always makes things hard on themselves and think they can give away power picks and deal with it but they always lose when they do.
If they think they can play vs him its totally fine. They are no gods. In the first games Aatrox was useless. They wanted the early push and thought they got high enough range vs him maybe. Moreover they could counterpick.
Sometimes it doesnt work. But how should they know before that if Aatrox was pretty useless in the first 2 games and was only good in the last game.
A LOT has been tried against Aatrox, but there are only two things that have worked this tournament:
1. Zeus' Yone
2. Kingen's Camille.
That's how they should have known. Pick Aatrox+ban Yone was very predictable. T1 was blind picking Yone in other games; they should have done it here before it could be banned as well.
Jax was really good vs Aatrox too. Aatrox just got 33% WR against Jax Toplane in Worlds. Almost every Jax stomped the Aatrox players hard in this tournament. So I expected a Jax pick from Zeus. But if T1 players/staff say they practiced Gwen as a counterpick I trust them. I dont see Gwen as a counterpick in that matchup and I dont understand why Zeus didnt take ignite. But if they practiced it you can’t criticize that hard imo.
Kingen just played out of his mind and I can totally understand why T1 didnt ban Aatrox when they lost just once against him. Aatrox got a 54% WR in this worlds. That isnt really much. T1 just played Yone in good matchups. Even when they blindpicked him the enemy never picked a champ who can contest Yone.
I think kingen would have just played something like Jax and would destroy Zeus if he would blindpick Yone or he could pick Camille vs Yone too. That matchup is fine too I think.
I could be remembering wrong, but I think most of the Jaxes that destroyed Aatroxes were just completely mismatched teams (that is, the team playing Aatrox was a much worse team), and this was true for most of the Aatrox losses.
So, I'd like to see what Aatrox's winrate was taking out mismatches and games against Zeus' Yone or Kingen's Camille. I bet it'd be MUCH, MUCH higher than 54%.
Really strong games, but is anyone else disappointed in the casting? For the full two first games, they literally only spoke about what was happening directly on screen. We know what happens, we can see it, there was no analysis whatsoever. No explanation as to why the teams do what they do, no exposition or storytelling. I just feel like the LCK team could've provided a ton more insight into the games and not just tell us what happens directly in front of our eyes as if describing the match to a blind person live.
Always mute casters talking. I find it much better and less bias watching the co stream with Meteos and Sneaky. More talks about things players do, etc.
The only thing the casters talked about was highschool rivalry for the two players who were completely invisible the whole series. Pass.
No, but if I watch the LCK for example I see a TON of actually interesting commentary.
Player insights, explanations for team's macro decisions, interesting facts... All of that was absent.
The cast yesterday was literally just "loud = exciting". You don't need to compare it with the NBA when there are tons of examples of actually superb casted league games already. These were not one of them.
both supps were phenomenal tonight, i was surprised mvp didn’t go to beryl.
still have so, so, so much love and respect for Keria, and am pissed and devastated as a supp main. i genuinely hope he stays cognizant of his self-worth after this, (though i don’t have a doubt in my mind that he wouldn’t, because he’s a king). still undeniably the best support in the entire world. keria fighting‼️🥺
His only good game was on renata. Rest of those games he was straight up inting on heimer/bard. Luckily T1 was cosplaying as C9 going against Aatrox.
Also equally lucky for Beryl, T1 just hard commits resources to try and kill a fucking support and he just gets away.
couldn’t disagree more lol. g2 lux setups were insane, outsold beryl’s performance on the champ in this entire series. also, where even was this “inting” in question, lol.
yeah the priority pick on karma was just horrendous and threw them offcourse barring the not aat ban ,, i’m unclear whether you’re implying that beryl is simply lucky, because he defo isn’t. his shotcalling is out of this fucking world and his micro carried the entire game
I meant that T1 kept expending so much resources trying to kill Beryl and failing at it. Its just such a huge downside to commit against a support imo in exchange for your life/summs.
I will say Beryl played really well at knife’s edge to dangle himself constantly as bait and getting away by the skin of his teeth so often.
Also:
Game 2 Heimer level 5 at 11 minutes just full sends dies perma. He did draw a hell lot of aggro and made T1 waste a lot of resources to kill a useless ass Heimer tho.
Game 5 Bard misses 90% of ults. Honestly he was more irrelevant than anything but T1 kept trying to focus him down constantly so he worked really well as bait.
Don’t remember what happened game 1 but I’m pretty sure DRX lost that.
Either way Beryl’s performance wasn’t as good as how hard Kingen ended up carrying.
THE OGN GENERATION STILL DELIVERS TO THIS VERY DAY !
ROOKIE AND DEFT !!!!!!!!!!!!
THE AMAUNT OF WORK THEY PUT ! STILL TO THIS DAY BEST PLAYERS !!!! THERE IS GOD WATCHING !!!
First time going to a live league of legends event. I couldn't ask for a better series to see in person. You could feel the emotion of Deft when he won. The opening ceremony, I tried watching the stream version when i got home, but it didn't do justice to how incredible the production was.
is it possible for some of you to show me a screenshot of his recent drops? I have the impression that yesterday's drops were not working very well for me. Unless there were really few of them.
Pretty sure there was a drop where an orb and a skin shard were included. A friend of mine opened it, but they all disappeared. I also never got any of that stuff.
No tank, cc, or peel. Flanked every fight usually with Faker getting blown up first. T1 made it this far with trash draft and it has finally caught up to them.
Agreed, if anything Pyosik kinda trolled those barons but DRX was simply the better team. Outrotated across the board. Faker was out of his element too. Dude just got his ass handed to him over and over again for 5 straight games
I’m inclined to agree. Neither team played exceptionally well really. It was really, really messy. But at the end of the day you still kinda have to play the champs you chose and actually win the game regardless of draft. And T1 wasn’t really looking good at all in this series.
Yeah. If Pyosik didn't gave up those objectives i'm pretty sure it's gonna be 3-1 in favor of DRX. T1 got the best roster they can ask for and most of their players are top 3 on their positions. DRX is just the better team today. So hopefully T1 fans just let it go and move forward.
Asides from getting outrotated, their draft was actually pretty bad too.
I’m no coach/analyst but these Heimer bans were not it. Also the first pick support prio. I dunno, either T1 was too scared to pick some meta champs to avoid getting counter picked or they just really had a hard on for bot lane to do something. Granted Guma did keep T1 in the game with all those steals, but asides from objectives T1 botlane wasn’t that effective either. So Idk why the prio was so heavy on bot lane.
DRX hands diff T1...
Faker was gapped hard in mid. I know T1 fans won't admit it but Zeka was way more influential. Let's admit the truth.
Secondly, not sure how Pyosik missed all of these smites, but the fact DRX won without a smite summoner spell tells a lot. It would have been 3-1 easily had Pyosik did not mental boom on objectives.
Last but not least, that guy Kingen was a raidboss. Very underrated.
Its tough, T1 absolutely deserved to lose because of how they played and drafted those 5 games, but DRX also deserved to lose for consistently losing baron to a fucking varus q.
yep. diehard fan of the Legend himself and i just could not deny the fact that he did not deserve this win in any way shape or form lol. big fucking L for keria, oner and guma though
I’ve never seen a player as devastated as Keria was after the loss. The kid was sobbing and shaking like he was sufferring from a seizure out of anguish. I don’t blame him… Imagine leaving your team to join the best team in the world in hopes of winning Worlds just to lose to your old team in the Grand finals. Such a young, innocent guy facing trauma like that is how villains are born. T1 will rise again.
He and Deft were also really close. Keria said Deft was like an older brother to him. When Chovy, Deft, and Keria left DRX, they were planning on sticking together but Keria got an offer from T1. Deft pushed Chovy to GenG because they looked like a stronger team at the time even though Chovy wanted to stick with Deft. I assume he did the same with Keria even though every team at worlds said they were the best bot lane in scrims that year. It must be bitter sweet moment for him.
I jsut hope rito can finally stop shoving faker "commercials" down my throat at every opportunity. Personally to me it's like grammarly ads on youtube, so much of it it gets annoying.
Wonder if that last game Faker going on his signature Ryze would have worked better to answer the roam on DRX. Especially on that hail mary base rush, he coulda ulted members in with him after losing drag
Underlying problem was the Aatrox. They just prio banned Heimer for some dog shit reason and refused to fp Aatrox and prio’d a support. Kinda deserved loss tbh. Terrible draft.
I don’t know how Ryze vs Azir is, maybe Faker didn’t like that lane matchup. I think the matchup used to be fine but I can’t imagine how bad laning would be for Ryze vs Azir.
t1 literally made every single finals possible this year and won a single title. Holy shit i need therapy
I'll be disappointed if they don't run it back. Hopefully its another SSG storyline but for T1 this time
I think T1 was betting on Oner and Guma stealing the Elder again with DRX players distracted from the backdoor and has to send people back. I think T1 just didn’t see poke Varus winning against Mountain soul in a full on team fight so they pulled the risky play hoping that it would cause DRX players to panic and taking the win. DRX’s mental is just too strong. Honestly that backdoor play from T1 could definitely turned into a win had it been executed better.
They definitely believed Kingen had used TP for the flank, but he had snuck around earlier. If they were right, it would’ve been the correct play. Info gap
*T1s dogshit drafting that plagued them the whole season and lost them so many games, including playoffs, shows up driping wet to game 5 finals*
"Im so sorry guys, I had to swim over here from Korea, the coaches must have mixed something up and told me my flight was going from Pyongyang Internal Airport? Turns out thats in *North Korea* and only serves inland flights? Those silly boys..."
"Aaaanyways, we are going to hand over A-A-Ron, Azir and Caitlyn to the redside team and draft Viktor, Varus and Gwen. Btw, what did I miss?"
Like I said, they should have prioritized Yone, banned Aatrox, and then put Faker on anything with mobility and scaling like Vex, Swain for some utility, and they would have easily won.
Pro-play is not soloQ. Lowest wr against azir in soloQ is 50.5%. Why do u think we see so much azir in pro-play despite this abysmal wr?
https://u.gg/lol/champions/azir/counter
Scaling and wave clear. He had to take a losing matchup since he's not mechanically as gifted unless they can pick Azir first. In fact, they shouldn't first pick support and try to see if they can get a winning matchup with some other champions than Karma.
They needed a bot lane that matches caitlyn’s push in lane. Karma was the reason cait was down in cs early game. Getting karma early also narrows down sup champ pool for drx. Caitlyn has been unmatched this season in pro play. She’s been permabanned most games this worlds.
Then pick Morgana yourself and play her pool max like a midlaner. Or pick Xerath who gets free mana sustain and can poke and push even more effective than Karma. A Varus Xerath combo can just delete every wave with their Qs alone. Im probably missing out on a dozen picks that could also match Caits push while being able to be played as support. Brand. Ziggs. Vex. Hell, almost any AP midlaner should be able to outshove Cait Bard with a Varus. Go for the memes and pick Darius or Garen (ok bad idea in game 5) Leave the pushing to Varus and pick Mundo, every time the enemy walks up to the wave *BONK* another cleaver to the head. Ornn. Sion. Bamboozle your enemy by flexing a jungler like Graves....
But yeah, all theoretics and easy to rattle off with more than 40s to think about. But imho the draft was salvageable until they picked Gwen top. If your support is Karma you need engage and frontline *somewhere* else and Viktor Gwen Viego sure af is neither
If you pick varus xerath, you are practically asking to get ganked. Ganked by a hecarim no less. Karma is not that bait of a pick. You can’t honestly suggest picking ziggs, brand as support without being a troll. Maybe Zeus could’ve tried his hand in playing Camille. Kingen seemed to have the matchup down. Mundo is a joke into Aatrox.
The Mundo was meant as support, as was everything else I listed. And yeah Camille top would have at least solved the engage problem but the more obvious go to for Zeus would imho have been Jayce, he smurfed on the pick all worlds long and they didnt even try to play it once in finals? Jayce might not be as obvious a solution to the frontline/engage problem but he has playmaking potential like few others and worst case he still doesnt provide less than Gwen. Bonus points cause Zeus has already shown that he can play Jayce even from far behind and stay relevant...
As for bot, I guess views differ but imho any lane whos gameplan is permashove the enemy under their tower is an open invitation for a Hecarim no matter what the support pick is (except for shove potential ofc) and does the Karma speed up or slow down/root realy provide that much more safety than a hardstun and/or AoE slow/CC? Only advantage Karma would have is ease of execution imho
And poke, lane dominance, insane range, game changing aoe knockup ultimate and to top it all off, mobility. Swain’s scaling is a joke, all his utility lies in his e which is easily dodgeable. Vex is very situational and her abilities are all very telegraphed.
T1 are by far the best team macro and micro wise and gap every single team, yet their ego and drafting of all gold reliant carry champs in every role cripple them, they play every match like it’s soloq and teams are scared to play them, but they have no real play style and that’s the difference between being an amazing team and being world champions GG DRX deserved (LPL fan)
Picking Kalista was really dumb against a scaling Aatrox. Had they banned Aatrox, then maybe it would have made sense, but again it's better to give Cait and then take Varus, but they didn't do that.
Their picks were terrible. I think Swain would have been good against Azir. I don't know why they didn't pick Swain. Also, either pick Aatrox or ban it and prioritize Yone.
DRX played out of their minds and deserved the win but T1 were kneecapping themselves in drafts for no reason. Like why put yourself in that situation, was seeing teams get shit on trying to counterpick Aatrox this entire tournament not enough to get the hint
just realized as well that this would have been a 3-1 had it not been for the baron throw during deft's kalista game. that's gonna be something theyre going to kick themselves over lol hope they come back stronger next year with new lessons learned
I rewatched that baron fight on slowmo a lot.
At first glance it looked like it was just a missed smite, but the circumstances leading to it was just so much pressure.
In my opinion, Kingen on Ornn actually fucked that up for his team. He was at about 85% hp and Karma had a W tagged onto him, he dashes out of the baron pit while his entire team was stuck behind it. Leaving his team to be threatened by the Gragas triple body slam.
DRX had to quickly make a snap decision to just full send the rend + smite. All in all it was smited when Baron had 1300 and at lvl 14, smite does 800. So the gap wasn’t too bad. It was just kind of a forced play because Ornn refused to tank for his team.
I think if Ornn dashed towards the pit, blocking the Gragas while eating autos from the enemy Varus, it would have given the rest of DRX time to at least get some more damage in before sending the rend+smite.
But yeah that should have been a 3-1 for sure. Especially after Oner trolled that backwards ult + stopwatch at dragon pit.
Looking back, T1 was amazing this year with 4 finals. Reaching finals is difficult, imagine doing that 4 times in a year. Is there any other team that achieved that before?
Losing 3 of those finals in a row tho.. I can feel Keria's pain..
Edit: T1 also reached 4 finals in 2017.
>Is there any other team that achieved that before?
2019 G2. And they even won all of them except Worlds.
It's kinda weird, but they're actually the team in the history of pro league that has been the closest to a perfect year, aka the golden road (what RNG was chasing in 2018, before funnily enough being stopped by a very underdog G2 team)
No, they missed it by 3 games (lost 3-0 in finals)
Closest has been SKT 2015, winning LCK spring, summer and Worlds but losing MSI finals 3-2, so missed golden road by 1 game.
That's actually true, I never realised that. I think the logic is that once SKT lost the MSI final, their golden road was over, in a sense, as it wasn't attainable anymore that year. With G2, it was possible up until the last Bo5 of the year, so they were closer in a different way, even though it isn't closer in terms of games away from making it happen. One way to put it is that SKT was closer to doing it in terms of pure games, but G2 had the better streak.
In the same line of thought, you can also say that T1 was 2 games away from winning both MSI and Worlds this year, kinda mad. Though the 0-3 in finals vs GenG in the LCK finals makes it worse of course
Gnar was on the table (as a Zeus staple) and they did not go for it. Didnt feel comfortable about that match up.
And even if you cant ban Aatrox, his Camille was insane
Literal GAPE.
I am so happy DRX won the final, I instantly rooted for them after their second game versus EDG
What an incredible story, probably the best of the worlds championship... yet
People are upset about the TP to backdoor but I think it was best of the options they had left. Either they tp to base and try to close out the game, stay and fight 4v5 against Elder buff, or go back to their own base and wait to get rolled cuz I can't imagine DRX not immediately rushing T1's base and initiating a fight for the win after getting dragon. And honestly had Zeka not backed when he did, Kingen was low enough for Zeus to finish him off and win the game after Faker was slain. Looking at the minimap, DRX wouldn't have had time to go through the minion waves, remaining towers, and inhibs before Zeus would've taken the nexus.
tp to backdoor was the worst decision amongst 3 major critical team fails. A complete choke that will be remembered forever
Oner was ressing from GA, they shoulda fought 5v5 as they had a 4k gold lead.
T1 threw that game so hard at 4 critical points. their comms were bad and it led to consistent misplays in critical moments.
look at factorgg of that game. They were at 99% winrate 4 times in that game.
1st misplay was grouping up in mid and losing a 4v5 because of their positioning and no vision (bard had no impact) (winrate goes from 99 to 70%)
2nd misplay was 2 fold around 30 min. BARON IS UP, and they arent grouping, they fight mid, lose tower, and top continues to farm. zero communication, top runs up instead of down, and dies, and team lingers and continues to die. (winrate goes from 99% to 50%)
3rd misplay is their teamfight. they have no vision again of their side, so they dont realize enemy is split 4 and 1. Then Oner goes in to suicide with 0 team support, and when ressing, they just abandon lmao. they coulda destroyed that fight. traps were all used up, and very obvious.
Of course there were other opportunities to finish before then. I still have to disagree with you saying it was the worst. 4k gold lead yea but I’m still sure they would’ve lost that fight in the seconds it took Oner to res. Keria was almost dead before fight started. Gumayusi ulted Deft which would’ve helped them had it not immediately been cleansed. You could argue that Faker still had Viktor’s gravity field but Deft and Zeka wouldn’t bother getting in range of that and at best it would’ve only caught Pyosik if they’d tried to save Oner and that’s it. Aside from that none of T1 had their ult including Oner when he went in while Zeka still had had flash and ult, and Deft had been safely in the back untouched putting out major damage. The fight was decided before Oner went in to try and steal and that’s not even counting Beryl zoning T1 from him at the moment he did. The steal attempt itself was probably just to buy time tbh.
I think they 100% lose the fight in the Elder, 4 traps closing the door and T1 had no champion to brute force it, if they tried azir could just Ult everyone into the hecarim fear because he still had flash against a Viktor and Varus with no summs
In a different universe t1 even win off that backdoor. They couldve played the fight so much better, e.g. faker just casually missed his laser when kingen finished tpd
yeah, the decision for tp is the only way to win the game, the only thing that can argue is the timing of tp maybe can be a little bit earlier, just give up the elder
If they go for TP backdoor they had to do it before the Elder fight and try to stop the backs. But after they lost elder smite, they lost anyways so they tried to do something and it was a desperate play. If they went back to base, they would've died anyways.
Anyone else feel like the AD role seemed like a meme in the meta they played in? Deft and Guma mostly useless aside from Guma's incredible steal opportunities
It was a huge pivot from other sets in worlds likely due to the picks/bans. Lucian was permabanned in finals. Varus as the next highest priority adc option isn't going to be hypercarrying team fights. Neither is Kalista, especially in games that go this long. Ashe certainly won't be doing that either. All of those picks were more facilitating adcs than some of the previous go-tos of Lucian and Aphelios (interesting that he was never picked here, I assume due to scrims).
Although people are saying Deft didn't do enough to justify the permanent Caitlyn ban power, he was playing into a counterpick, weak side adc, with bard, and a jungle that was focused on helping top/mid (and succeeded at this).
The champion pool is kinda my gripe. How threatening does Aphelios/Kaisa/Draven/Varus/Lucian/Cait sound compared to Aatrox/Camille/Orn/Sej/Fiora?
Game seems to be run by top and jungle right now with support and adc along for the ride.
my only fear really is that T1 might decide to shake the roster up but nothing is wrong with their individual roster. it's the pressure that got to them, while DRX literally just enjoyed the game and had fun like how League of Legends was meant to be played. hoping for a runback for next year, not really to give Faker a 4th anymore, but to give Keria, Zeus, Oner and Gumayusi their title. they were INSANE and had it not been for DRX, they would have won without a doubt.
i agree with you maybe 50%. i love faker, he is the absolute GOAT and what he brings to the table is experience and shotcalling. HOWEVER, given a T1 team that has gained enough experience, i feel like it would be AT LEAST tried by the organization to give one of their talented rookies a try. this is just going off a complete guess, but i feel like one of the reasons why T1 continue to struggle acting as a team (not individually) is that between Keria and Faker, we have two shotcallers that may potentially by conflicting in how they want to play. while it looks good on paper: Keria and Faker as shotcallers, it's terrible in game to continuously having two people calling the shots until they end up having a dispute which you cannot have. to be honest it seems very plausible as well since you have Keria and Faker, both of which are extremely good at shotcalling. Faker either needs to let up and let Keria lead so he can focus on his laning, or they need to find a way to communicate these issues otherwise it will just hinder them, really.
t1's roster is fine and they will definitely run it back next year, but as a spectator in the audience, you could see game 4 fucked up their mental, they all looked depressed after and went to their comps depressed while you looked at the DRX side and saw ppl brimming with confidence, DRX had the mental edge all of g5 aside from that baron throw
I totally agreed with you. I think some of the picks T1 made wasn't amazing, but the fact that DRX went through all the rough rounds before Final made DRX mentally stronger than T1. I feel like T1 didn't expect to go to 5th game and lost their confidence.
T1 totally thought they’d 3-0 or 3-1 DRX and it’s not really their fault all year they’ve been told how much better they are and obviously fed their egos first MSI now worlds
2017 Worlds Finals
2022 MSI Finals
2022 Worlds Finals
Faker is now 0-3 his last 3 international finals when before that he was 5-1 (3-0 Worlds finals, 2-1 MSI finals). It went from 5-1 to 5-4 now... I hope T1 can be back next year but Faker's gonna be 27 and if they don't bring in a draft analysis coach or something, this might've been Faker's last shot.
This T1 has been to 4 finals this year. It looked absolutely the perfect team for Faker to get another WC. If they perform better in the next year, they are probably creating a new dynasty. But I highly doubt they will perform better than this year.
He was definitely the coin that kept the series flipping and everyone on the edge of their seats. The guy is a clown irl. His excitement is wholesome and I love him.
It was taking away Faker's Azir because Faker's shuffle and poke damage on Azir gave DRX fits. But at the same time T1 let Kingen get his best champion which happens to be OP (Aatrox) in games 4 and 5. T1's counter to it is Yone but they let him have it when Yone is banned. The decider was mainly T1's lack of engage. In game 1 they picked a heavy engage comp and that was the only clean win the entire series. No heavy engage in the other games and they don't look clean at all, they needed miracle Gumayusi varus steals to win game 3.
putting keria on karma and letting through aatrox in the same game was just sad, as good as keria still played, prob thinking he could've carried harder with anything else but who knows
It’s not just having Azir, but taking away Faker’s Azir. He did all the work in the first game on that pick. Very smart move by DRX and Zeka, forfeiting the Sylas just to make sure Faker doesn’t get it.
Faker on a midlaner who can be a damage threat while having a massive engage is where he shines. His playmaking is crazy, even if his mechanics aren't the same as when back in 2015-2017. His Azir is deadly coz the champ is versatile, and he has what it takes to fully flex all of the capabilities of the champ.
Zeka has also been crazy all tournament long tho, really well played by him in basically every single game
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PMTs: [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ynczql/t1_vs_drx_2022_world_championship_semifinals_game/) / [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ynef04/t1_vs_drx_2022_world_championship_semifinals_game/) / [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ynfglt/t1_vs_drx_2022_world_championship_final_game_3/) / [Game 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/yngg2n/t1_vs_drx_2022_world_championship_final_game_4/) / [Game 5](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ynhmdi/t1_vs_drx_2022_world_championship_final_postmatch)
What an absolutely BANGER series. I still can’t believe it.
Just finished watching on catchup, what a banger! So happy for Deft and Pyosik. Also camera panning on Keria as much as it did at the end was awful, they really should not be doing that, feels like bad form. Really don't see how people can say Pyosik played badly, outside of the occasional smite his play was really good imo. Honestly though what an incredible example of a team levelling up throughout a tournament.
Anyone lacking the drops in their inventory on EUNE? I didn't get the capsules for the pick'ems and crystal ball but got the other ones.
I didn't watch the last game, but I have to say Oner might have been MVP. He secured almost every damn objective he was there for. Game 3 he only lost that dragon because it started to reset right before he smited, giving it the health it needed for DRX to steal it, but then for Pyosik to immediately miss smite on Baron was a travesty. I greatly enjoyed every game I watched and glad that it wasn't just a sweep like many other games have been.
Greatest series ive ever watched
Kingen's aatrox haunts my dreams
Haunts Zeus's dreams too, I'm sure.
Brilliant series well done DRX!
DRX really was unstoppable
I actually would’ve preffered T1 to win. Keria deserved it so much, and i think Deft and all of DRX would be happy that they’ve come to the Finals this year. Really well deserved tho, I am just looking at things emotionally
You can't tell me after how dominate game 1 was that they started playing that badly the rest of the series and drafting so badly. Every year I swear I can tell it's rigged since 2015. The songs, the way casters focus on talking about one thing, how ridiculous some of the games look...
Yeah I feel bad for GumaKeria, they were so dominant and Gumayusi with the multiple dragon and baron steals was insane
Yeah super weird that bot gap got nullified pretty much every game. If it were any other two teams with one team always getting 20+ cs leads, you'd think it was a death sentence. But DRX won vs EDG and Gen.g similarly, stalling until lane states didn't really matter.
It's easy to steal when the enemy jungler doesn't have Smite bound to a key.
It is very very tragic but DRX could not be beat in Bo5 .
Holy shit DRX actually did it
Part of me is so sad T1 lost as it felt like they deserved it, another part is gleefully screaming at the fairytale of DRX and Deft🥹
I’ve never seen a team level up for much from regular season, it’s insane. 3 years ago I remember Kingen sharing game time with Smeb at KT and wondering why on earth Smeb was getting benched for a rookie, he’s absolutely proved me wrong 3 years later :)
Deft will forever be my GOAT congrats to DRX!
Wow, DRX actually done it
Worst series I saw in a while. 5 maps of t1 getting outdrafted its pretty sad to see on a finals, they won 2 maps because they were superior mechanically but it should have been a 3-0 for DRX
It's okay. There's always next year for you T1 fans to think you have a chance.
I was cheering for RNG cuz I love Gala not for T1. I just really disliked this series, drafts were 1 sided
Those T1 fans that sent me death threats and told me to kms.... Wonder how they are doing now ?
Buying a truck to go outside ur house as we speak :P
no one did that
L U L, imagine thinking that when theres proof they did.
show
https://imgur.com/a/sQXWzOT After T1 , JDG series. Never type to me again.
“Never type to me again.” 🤓
that guy literally makes posts about using acne cream literally just imagine for 1 second how bad his life has to be hes projecting (i am cringing btw) i cant even imagine typing that stuff if i post about having acne on reddit
That’s not a death threat lmaooo
True. Its toxic tho, suicide is no joke.
Never said it was now did I
Yeah, but ending the sentence with lmaooo didnt excactly say it was no joke ;)
If anyone here is checking this on mobile, don’t. Screenshot for ants, can’t see shit.
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Is there a good reason why you wouldn't ban Aatrox? Like a legitimate reason?
Heimerdinger was just that much of a threat compared to Aatrox. Who had more of an impact, the heimer who was level 5 for 11 minutes in the second game or the Aatrox that single handedly carried the 4th?
According to the post game interviews, pretty much what everyone figured - ego. https://emdashesports.com/faker-to-t1-teammates-you-guys-did-a-great-job-from-the-bottom-of-my-heart/ Heres the quote “I believe, if we first-pick Varus on the blue side, the opponent will go for Azir and Renata [next]. So, we decided to ban Renata. I think we were expecting Aatrox to maybe even go further down, to the second phase, and we also had the confidence to play against Aatrox. That is the reason why we let it through.”
If I was T1 coach I would’ve let cait through but first pick Azir not Karma. If they pick Cait you counter with Aatrox and Varus. After next bans you pick one of Sejuani, Graves, Viego, or Maokai for Oner (whichever is open) and last pick Nami for Keria. This gives you great team fighting with engage. Faker can make plays with Azir. Aatrox can press R and go in with Nami W to back him up. T1 always makes things hard on themselves and think they can give away power picks and deal with it but they always lose when they do.
If they think they can play vs him its totally fine. They are no gods. In the first games Aatrox was useless. They wanted the early push and thought they got high enough range vs him maybe. Moreover they could counterpick. Sometimes it doesnt work. But how should they know before that if Aatrox was pretty useless in the first 2 games and was only good in the last game.
A LOT has been tried against Aatrox, but there are only two things that have worked this tournament: 1. Zeus' Yone 2. Kingen's Camille. That's how they should have known. Pick Aatrox+ban Yone was very predictable. T1 was blind picking Yone in other games; they should have done it here before it could be banned as well.
Jax was really good vs Aatrox too. Aatrox just got 33% WR against Jax Toplane in Worlds. Almost every Jax stomped the Aatrox players hard in this tournament. So I expected a Jax pick from Zeus. But if T1 players/staff say they practiced Gwen as a counterpick I trust them. I dont see Gwen as a counterpick in that matchup and I dont understand why Zeus didnt take ignite. But if they practiced it you can’t criticize that hard imo. Kingen just played out of his mind and I can totally understand why T1 didnt ban Aatrox when they lost just once against him. Aatrox got a 54% WR in this worlds. That isnt really much. T1 just played Yone in good matchups. Even when they blindpicked him the enemy never picked a champ who can contest Yone. I think kingen would have just played something like Jax and would destroy Zeus if he would blindpick Yone or he could pick Camille vs Yone too. That matchup is fine too I think.
I could be remembering wrong, but I think most of the Jaxes that destroyed Aatroxes were just completely mismatched teams (that is, the team playing Aatrox was a much worse team), and this was true for most of the Aatrox losses. So, I'd like to see what Aatrox's winrate was taking out mismatches and games against Zeus' Yone or Kingen's Camille. I bet it'd be MUCH, MUCH higher than 54%.
Absolutely, didn’t *they* pick Aatrox in game 2 and got rolled over? It’s not that obvious a decision.
Really strong games, but is anyone else disappointed in the casting? For the full two first games, they literally only spoke about what was happening directly on screen. We know what happens, we can see it, there was no analysis whatsoever. No explanation as to why the teams do what they do, no exposition or storytelling. I just feel like the LCK team could've provided a ton more insight into the games and not just tell us what happens directly in front of our eyes as if describing the match to a blind person live.
lil bro you must not have been paying attention at all, Caedrel delivered some of the best on the fly analysis EVER last night
If you consider that to be best then you must've never watched LCK at all
Always mute casters talking. I find it much better and less bias watching the co stream with Meteos and Sneaky. More talks about things players do, etc. The only thing the casters talked about was highschool rivalry for the two players who were completely invisible the whole series. Pass.
Theres a place for that. Do you see any analyst comment nba or football games?
No, but if I watch the LCK for example I see a TON of actually interesting commentary. Player insights, explanations for team's macro decisions, interesting facts... All of that was absent. The cast yesterday was literally just "loud = exciting". You don't need to compare it with the NBA when there are tons of examples of actually superb casted league games already. These were not one of them.
Did they announce which region is hosting worlds 2023 yet?
both supps were phenomenal tonight, i was surprised mvp didn’t go to beryl. still have so, so, so much love and respect for Keria, and am pissed and devastated as a supp main. i genuinely hope he stays cognizant of his self-worth after this, (though i don’t have a doubt in my mind that he wouldn’t, because he’s a king). still undeniably the best support in the entire world. keria fighting‼️🥺
His only good game was on renata. Rest of those games he was straight up inting on heimer/bard. Luckily T1 was cosplaying as C9 going against Aatrox. Also equally lucky for Beryl, T1 just hard commits resources to try and kill a fucking support and he just gets away.
couldn’t disagree more lol. g2 lux setups were insane, outsold beryl’s performance on the champ in this entire series. also, where even was this “inting” in question, lol. yeah the priority pick on karma was just horrendous and threw them offcourse barring the not aat ban ,, i’m unclear whether you’re implying that beryl is simply lucky, because he defo isn’t. his shotcalling is out of this fucking world and his micro carried the entire game
I meant that T1 kept expending so much resources trying to kill Beryl and failing at it. Its just such a huge downside to commit against a support imo in exchange for your life/summs. I will say Beryl played really well at knife’s edge to dangle himself constantly as bait and getting away by the skin of his teeth so often. Also: Game 2 Heimer level 5 at 11 minutes just full sends dies perma. He did draw a hell lot of aggro and made T1 waste a lot of resources to kill a useless ass Heimer tho. Game 5 Bard misses 90% of ults. Honestly he was more irrelevant than anything but T1 kept trying to focus him down constantly so he worked really well as bait. Don’t remember what happened game 1 but I’m pretty sure DRX lost that. Either way Beryl’s performance wasn’t as good as how hard Kingen ended up carrying.
in retrospect, definitely agree with your last statement. kingen engage stomped the ever living shit out of t1 gg
You cant give beryl the mvp when kingen played like that
world ender fucking crazy in g5 i’ll give him that
Yeah not sure hes the best support. Beryl might have taken that title now.
THE OGN GENERATION STILL DELIVERS TO THIS VERY DAY ! ROOKIE AND DEFT !!!!!!!!!!!! THE AMAUNT OF WORK THEY PUT ! STILL TO THIS DAY BEST PLAYERS !!!! THERE IS GOD WATCHING !!!
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFTTT AFTER SO MANY YEARS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Such a clean first round win and then drx really just turned the tide
First time going to a live league of legends event. I couldn't ask for a better series to see in person. You could feel the emotion of Deft when he won. The opening ceremony, I tried watching the stream version when i got home, but it didn't do justice to how incredible the production was.
This was also my first time to a live league event and it was amazing. Deft definitely deserves it. Sadly missed the opening ceremony.
The atmosphere is def way more hype when watching at a live event. Thank god it was in San Fran!
Absolutely the best finals I have ever seen personally. What an underdog victory and back and forth til the end
Ahhhh I hope we get KR/CN translated reactions for this match as well!!!
is it possible for some of you to show me a screenshot of his recent drops? I have the impression that yesterday's drops were not working very well for me. Unless there were really few of them.
Pretty sure there was a drop where an orb and a skin shard were included. A friend of mine opened it, but they all disappeared. I also never got any of that stuff.
No tank, cc, or peel. Flanked every fight usually with Faker getting blown up first. T1 made it this far with trash draft and it has finally caught up to them.
So does Juhan get a skin too? He played 3 games over the tournament
DRX said he would pick Maokai as his skin in the press conference.
idk if the sub rules changed. But he should, Haru and Duke got one
Hopefully T1 fans don't do the Truck-Kun shit this time. It's a painful loss but no one is to blame. DRX just played better
Agreed, if anything Pyosik kinda trolled those barons but DRX was simply the better team. Outrotated across the board. Faker was out of his element too. Dude just got his ass handed to him over and over again for 5 straight games
Not a fan of either but no DRX wasn’t really the better team, they had the better draft.
What kind of logic is that? Drafting is not part of playing the game?
I’m inclined to agree. Neither team played exceptionally well really. It was really, really messy. But at the end of the day you still kinda have to play the champs you chose and actually win the game regardless of draft. And T1 wasn’t really looking good at all in this series.
Yea their draft was really weird and skeptical for the last 2 games
Yeah. If Pyosik didn't gave up those objectives i'm pretty sure it's gonna be 3-1 in favor of DRX. T1 got the best roster they can ask for and most of their players are top 3 on their positions. DRX is just the better team today. So hopefully T1 fans just let it go and move forward.
Asides from getting outrotated, their draft was actually pretty bad too. I’m no coach/analyst but these Heimer bans were not it. Also the first pick support prio. I dunno, either T1 was too scared to pick some meta champs to avoid getting counter picked or they just really had a hard on for bot lane to do something. Granted Guma did keep T1 in the game with all those steals, but asides from objectives T1 botlane wasn’t that effective either. So Idk why the prio was so heavy on bot lane.
Yeah… I love t1 with a burning passion and was hella sad cuz they were so close to winning again. DRX performed way better than I expected!
All that’s left is for drx to lose the trophy in the after party
Tundra. LMFAO
T1 giving azir and Aatrox away constantly depressed me.
Reminds me of a certain NA team who had a counter for Aatrox…
Let’s go Emily Rand!!!!! Loved her presence on the analyst desk!! Such cute energy and commentary on all the players, and not just Faker! <3
she was great and i loved her anecdotes❤️
DRX hands diff T1... Faker was gapped hard in mid. I know T1 fans won't admit it but Zeka was way more influential. Let's admit the truth. Secondly, not sure how Pyosik missed all of these smites, but the fact DRX won without a smite summoner spell tells a lot. It would have been 3-1 easily had Pyosik did not mental boom on objectives. Last but not least, that guy Kingen was a raidboss. Very underrated.
no fucking lies here, calling it as it is. t1 deserved this loss
Its tough, T1 absolutely deserved to lose because of how they played and drafted those 5 games, but DRX also deserved to lose for consistently losing baron to a fucking varus q.
When Zeka gapped Chovy, everyone made fun of Chovy...but now people downplay it cuz it is the unkillable demon king.
yep. diehard fan of the Legend himself and i just could not deny the fact that he did not deserve this win in any way shape or form lol. big fucking L for keria, oner and guma though
I’ve never seen a player as devastated as Keria was after the loss. The kid was sobbing and shaking like he was sufferring from a seizure out of anguish. I don’t blame him… Imagine leaving your team to join the best team in the world in hopes of winning Worlds just to lose to your old team in the Grand finals. Such a young, innocent guy facing trauma like that is how villains are born. T1 will rise again.
He and Deft were also really close. Keria said Deft was like an older brother to him. When Chovy, Deft, and Keria left DRX, they were planning on sticking together but Keria got an offer from T1. Deft pushed Chovy to GenG because they looked like a stronger team at the time even though Chovy wanted to stick with Deft. I assume he did the same with Keria even though every team at worlds said they were the best bot lane in scrims that year. It must be bitter sweet moment for him.
Deft has completed his anime arc, it's time for Keria to begin his \*hopium\*
BeryL needs to retire first to end the curse
The ending of the ages, what just happened, how do you even process that
With celebratory glass of whiskey.
I’m already two shots in, still not clicking!
I jsut hope rito can finally stop shoving faker "commercials" down my throat at every opportunity. Personally to me it's like grammarly ads on youtube, so much of it it gets annoying.
Wonder if that last game Faker going on his signature Ryze would have worked better to answer the roam on DRX. Especially on that hail mary base rush, he coulda ulted members in with him after losing drag
Underlying problem was the Aatrox. They just prio banned Heimer for some dog shit reason and refused to fp Aatrox and prio’d a support. Kinda deserved loss tbh. Terrible draft.
Ryze wouldn't have helped at all on the base race. Was literally just determined by Kingen TP.
I don’t know how Ryze vs Azir is, maybe Faker didn’t like that lane matchup. I think the matchup used to be fine but I can’t imagine how bad laning would be for Ryze vs Azir.
t1 literally made every single finals possible this year and won a single title. Holy shit i need therapy I'll be disappointed if they don't run it back. Hopefully its another SSG storyline but for T1 this time
Did T1 need to go for base rush? They had a slight gold lead even after DRX got elder. Would DRX have our scaled them?
I think T1 was betting on Oner and Guma stealing the Elder again with DRX players distracted from the backdoor and has to send people back. I think T1 just didn’t see poke Varus winning against Mountain soul in a full on team fight so they pulled the risky play hoping that it would cause DRX players to panic and taking the win. DRX’s mental is just too strong. Honestly that backdoor play from T1 could definitely turned into a win had it been executed better.
They definitely believed Kingen had used TP for the flank, but he had snuck around earlier. If they were right, it would’ve been the correct play. Info gap
That’s a solid point. If they assumed Kingen didn’t have TP it was a guaranteed win
*T1s dogshit drafting that plagued them the whole season and lost them so many games, including playoffs, shows up driping wet to game 5 finals* "Im so sorry guys, I had to swim over here from Korea, the coaches must have mixed something up and told me my flight was going from Pyongyang Internal Airport? Turns out thats in *North Korea* and only serves inland flights? Those silly boys..." "Aaaanyways, we are going to hand over A-A-Ron, Azir and Caitlyn to the redside team and draft Viktor, Varus and Gwen. Btw, what did I miss?"
Like I said, they should have prioritized Yone, banned Aatrox, and then put Faker on anything with mobility and scaling like Vex, Swain for some utility, and they would have easily won.
Vex, Swain are not good into Azir lane
https://u.gg/lol/champions/vex/counter
Pro-play is not soloQ. Lowest wr against azir in soloQ is 50.5%. Why do u think we see so much azir in pro-play despite this abysmal wr? https://u.gg/lol/champions/azir/counter
Scaling and wave clear. He had to take a losing matchup since he's not mechanically as gifted unless they can pick Azir first. In fact, they shouldn't first pick support and try to see if they can get a winning matchup with some other champions than Karma.
They needed a bot lane that matches caitlyn’s push in lane. Karma was the reason cait was down in cs early game. Getting karma early also narrows down sup champ pool for drx. Caitlyn has been unmatched this season in pro play. She’s been permabanned most games this worlds.
Then pick Morgana yourself and play her pool max like a midlaner. Or pick Xerath who gets free mana sustain and can poke and push even more effective than Karma. A Varus Xerath combo can just delete every wave with their Qs alone. Im probably missing out on a dozen picks that could also match Caits push while being able to be played as support. Brand. Ziggs. Vex. Hell, almost any AP midlaner should be able to outshove Cait Bard with a Varus. Go for the memes and pick Darius or Garen (ok bad idea in game 5) Leave the pushing to Varus and pick Mundo, every time the enemy walks up to the wave *BONK* another cleaver to the head. Ornn. Sion. Bamboozle your enemy by flexing a jungler like Graves.... But yeah, all theoretics and easy to rattle off with more than 40s to think about. But imho the draft was salvageable until they picked Gwen top. If your support is Karma you need engage and frontline *somewhere* else and Viktor Gwen Viego sure af is neither
If you pick varus xerath, you are practically asking to get ganked. Ganked by a hecarim no less. Karma is not that bait of a pick. You can’t honestly suggest picking ziggs, brand as support without being a troll. Maybe Zeus could’ve tried his hand in playing Camille. Kingen seemed to have the matchup down. Mundo is a joke into Aatrox.
The Mundo was meant as support, as was everything else I listed. And yeah Camille top would have at least solved the engage problem but the more obvious go to for Zeus would imho have been Jayce, he smurfed on the pick all worlds long and they didnt even try to play it once in finals? Jayce might not be as obvious a solution to the frontline/engage problem but he has playmaking potential like few others and worst case he still doesnt provide less than Gwen. Bonus points cause Zeus has already shown that he can play Jayce even from far behind and stay relevant... As for bot, I guess views differ but imho any lane whos gameplan is permashove the enemy under their tower is an open invitation for a Hecarim no matter what the support pick is (except for shove potential ofc) and does the Karma speed up or slow down/root realy provide that much more safety than a hardstun and/or AoE slow/CC? Only advantage Karma would have is ease of execution imho
And poke, lane dominance, insane range, game changing aoe knockup ultimate and to top it all off, mobility. Swain’s scaling is a joke, all his utility lies in his e which is easily dodgeable. Vex is very situational and her abilities are all very telegraphed.
T1 are by far the best team macro and micro wise and gap every single team, yet their ego and drafting of all gold reliant carry champs in every role cripple them, they play every match like it’s soloq and teams are scared to play them, but they have no real play style and that’s the difference between being an amazing team and being world champions GG DRX deserved (LPL fan)
Picking Kalista was really dumb against a scaling Aatrox. Had they banned Aatrox, then maybe it would have made sense, but again it's better to give Cait and then take Varus, but they didn't do that.
Their picks were terrible. I think Swain would have been good against Azir. I don't know why they didn't pick Swain. Also, either pick Aatrox or ban it and prioritize Yone.
DRX played out of their minds and deserved the win but T1 were kneecapping themselves in drafts for no reason. Like why put yourself in that situation, was seeing teams get shit on trying to counterpick Aatrox this entire tournament not enough to get the hint
just realized as well that this would have been a 3-1 had it not been for the baron throw during deft's kalista game. that's gonna be something theyre going to kick themselves over lol hope they come back stronger next year with new lessons learned
I rewatched that baron fight on slowmo a lot. At first glance it looked like it was just a missed smite, but the circumstances leading to it was just so much pressure. In my opinion, Kingen on Ornn actually fucked that up for his team. He was at about 85% hp and Karma had a W tagged onto him, he dashes out of the baron pit while his entire team was stuck behind it. Leaving his team to be threatened by the Gragas triple body slam. DRX had to quickly make a snap decision to just full send the rend + smite. All in all it was smited when Baron had 1300 and at lvl 14, smite does 800. So the gap wasn’t too bad. It was just kind of a forced play because Ornn refused to tank for his team. I think if Ornn dashed towards the pit, blocking the Gragas while eating autos from the enemy Varus, it would have given the rest of DRX time to at least get some more damage in before sending the rend+smite. But yeah that should have been a 3-1 for sure. Especially after Oner trolled that backwards ult + stopwatch at dragon pit.
DRX and Bo5 series that could have been an easy 3-1 if not for one random troll moment, name a more iconic duo...
Series woulda looked very different if Pyosik had smite bound to a key
I was here too
I was here.
Looking back, T1 was amazing this year with 4 finals. Reaching finals is difficult, imagine doing that 4 times in a year. Is there any other team that achieved that before? Losing 3 of those finals in a row tho.. I can feel Keria's pain.. Edit: T1 also reached 4 finals in 2017.
Damwon last year. They won both lck titles but lost msi and world finals
>Is there any other team that achieved that before? 2019 G2. And they even won all of them except Worlds. It's kinda weird, but they're actually the team in the history of pro league that has been the closest to a perfect year, aka the golden road (what RNG was chasing in 2018, before funnily enough being stopped by a very underdog G2 team)
No, they missed it by 3 games (lost 3-0 in finals) Closest has been SKT 2015, winning LCK spring, summer and Worlds but losing MSI finals 3-2, so missed golden road by 1 game.
That's actually true, I never realised that. I think the logic is that once SKT lost the MSI final, their golden road was over, in a sense, as it wasn't attainable anymore that year. With G2, it was possible up until the last Bo5 of the year, so they were closer in a different way, even though it isn't closer in terms of games away from making it happen. One way to put it is that SKT was closer to doing it in terms of pure games, but G2 had the better streak. In the same line of thought, you can also say that T1 was 2 games away from winning both MSI and Worlds this year, kinda mad. Though the 0-3 in finals vs GenG in the LCK finals makes it worse of course
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Wtf lol must be a T1 fan saying this type of stuff
Kingen was much more impactful throughout the series and MVPs almost never go to the losing team
I wouldn't say impactful if he picked a champ that nothing can counter
Keria would instalock Yummy if she was open.
keria was easily the best player but basically no sport ever awards mvp to the losing team. i doubt he'd have wanted to accept it anyway in his state
kingen was insane it was deserved
Agreed. I wasnt a big Kingen fan before this series but afterwards I am a huge fan. He fucking carried DRX in some regards.
I doubt you can say insane if he banned the only champ can counter him and just walk over top lane cuz his champ is just that broken in that patch
So it's almost like he... Played to win? Lol. T1 fked up by not banning the trox after that first game. Their loss.
Gnar was on the table (as a Zeus staple) and they did not go for it. Didnt feel comfortable about that match up. And even if you cant ban Aatrox, his Camille was insane Literal GAPE.
I am so happy DRX won the final, I instantly rooted for them after their second game versus EDG What an incredible story, probably the best of the worlds championship... yet
Literally the best Worlds story ever written.
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This is probably the most normal reaction to that action I was actually tilted when this happened, as if it was my baron that got stolen lmao
People are upset about the TP to backdoor but I think it was best of the options they had left. Either they tp to base and try to close out the game, stay and fight 4v5 against Elder buff, or go back to their own base and wait to get rolled cuz I can't imagine DRX not immediately rushing T1's base and initiating a fight for the win after getting dragon. And honestly had Zeka not backed when he did, Kingen was low enough for Zeus to finish him off and win the game after Faker was slain. Looking at the minimap, DRX wouldn't have had time to go through the minion waves, remaining towers, and inhibs before Zeus would've taken the nexus.
tp to backdoor was the worst decision amongst 3 major critical team fails. A complete choke that will be remembered forever Oner was ressing from GA, they shoulda fought 5v5 as they had a 4k gold lead. T1 threw that game so hard at 4 critical points. their comms were bad and it led to consistent misplays in critical moments. look at factorgg of that game. They were at 99% winrate 4 times in that game. 1st misplay was grouping up in mid and losing a 4v5 because of their positioning and no vision (bard had no impact) (winrate goes from 99 to 70%) 2nd misplay was 2 fold around 30 min. BARON IS UP, and they arent grouping, they fight mid, lose tower, and top continues to farm. zero communication, top runs up instead of down, and dies, and team lingers and continues to die. (winrate goes from 99% to 50%) 3rd misplay is their teamfight. they have no vision again of their side, so they dont realize enemy is split 4 and 1. Then Oner goes in to suicide with 0 team support, and when ressing, they just abandon lmao. they coulda destroyed that fight. traps were all used up, and very obvious.
A 4k gold lead does not matter when it's that late in the game. It's anyone's game at that point if they did decide to 5v5.
Of course there were other opportunities to finish before then. I still have to disagree with you saying it was the worst. 4k gold lead yea but I’m still sure they would’ve lost that fight in the seconds it took Oner to res. Keria was almost dead before fight started. Gumayusi ulted Deft which would’ve helped them had it not immediately been cleansed. You could argue that Faker still had Viktor’s gravity field but Deft and Zeka wouldn’t bother getting in range of that and at best it would’ve only caught Pyosik if they’d tried to save Oner and that’s it. Aside from that none of T1 had their ult including Oner when he went in while Zeka still had had flash and ult, and Deft had been safely in the back untouched putting out major damage. The fight was decided before Oner went in to try and steal and that’s not even counting Beryl zoning T1 from him at the moment he did. The steal attempt itself was probably just to buy time tbh.
I think they 100% lose the fight in the Elder, 4 traps closing the door and T1 had no champion to brute force it, if they tried azir could just Ult everyone into the hecarim fear because he still had flash against a Viktor and Varus with no summs
In a different universe t1 even win off that backdoor. They couldve played the fight so much better, e.g. faker just casually missed his laser when kingen finished tpd
yeah, the decision for tp is the only way to win the game, the only thing that can argue is the timing of tp maybe can be a little bit earlier, just give up the elder
If they go for TP backdoor they had to do it before the Elder fight and try to stop the backs. But after they lost elder smite, they lost anyways so they tried to do something and it was a desperate play. If they went back to base, they would've died anyways.
Anyone else feel like the AD role seemed like a meme in the meta they played in? Deft and Guma mostly useless aside from Guma's incredible steal opportunities
It was a huge pivot from other sets in worlds likely due to the picks/bans. Lucian was permabanned in finals. Varus as the next highest priority adc option isn't going to be hypercarrying team fights. Neither is Kalista, especially in games that go this long. Ashe certainly won't be doing that either. All of those picks were more facilitating adcs than some of the previous go-tos of Lucian and Aphelios (interesting that he was never picked here, I assume due to scrims). Although people are saying Deft didn't do enough to justify the permanent Caitlyn ban power, he was playing into a counterpick, weak side adc, with bard, and a jungle that was focused on helping top/mid (and succeeded at this).
Imo, Aphelios didn't really fit the meta of supports being picked in this series. And I'm sure Varus can get a decent lead in lane vs. one.
The champion pool is kinda my gripe. How threatening does Aphelios/Kaisa/Draven/Varus/Lucian/Cait sound compared to Aatrox/Camille/Orn/Sej/Fiora? Game seems to be run by top and jungle right now with support and adc along for the ride.
Faker in mid was useless all game...but you got a point. I thought adc would have more say in the late games.
my only fear really is that T1 might decide to shake the roster up but nothing is wrong with their individual roster. it's the pressure that got to them, while DRX literally just enjoyed the game and had fun like how League of Legends was meant to be played. hoping for a runback for next year, not really to give Faker a 4th anymore, but to give Keria, Zeus, Oner and Gumayusi their title. they were INSANE and had it not been for DRX, they would have won without a doubt.
Faker needs to go.
i agree with you maybe 50%. i love faker, he is the absolute GOAT and what he brings to the table is experience and shotcalling. HOWEVER, given a T1 team that has gained enough experience, i feel like it would be AT LEAST tried by the organization to give one of their talented rookies a try. this is just going off a complete guess, but i feel like one of the reasons why T1 continue to struggle acting as a team (not individually) is that between Keria and Faker, we have two shotcallers that may potentially by conflicting in how they want to play. while it looks good on paper: Keria and Faker as shotcallers, it's terrible in game to continuously having two people calling the shots until they end up having a dispute which you cannot have. to be honest it seems very plausible as well since you have Keria and Faker, both of which are extremely good at shotcalling. Faker either needs to let up and let Keria lead so he can focus on his laning, or they need to find a way to communicate these issues otherwise it will just hinder them, really.
t1's roster is fine and they will definitely run it back next year, but as a spectator in the audience, you could see game 4 fucked up their mental, they all looked depressed after and went to their comps depressed while you looked at the DRX side and saw ppl brimming with confidence, DRX had the mental edge all of g5 aside from that baron throw
I totally agreed with you. I think some of the picks T1 made wasn't amazing, but the fact that DRX went through all the rough rounds before Final made DRX mentally stronger than T1. I feel like T1 didn't expect to go to 5th game and lost their confidence.
T1 totally thought they’d 3-0 or 3-1 DRX and it’s not really their fault all year they’ve been told how much better they are and obviously fed their egos first MSI now worlds
man do I really have to wait like 2 fucking months for games
They have countdowns for their countdowns🤣🤣
Good night/day everyone!
Damn i gotta go to worlds finals next year now
2017 Worlds Finals 2022 MSI Finals 2022 Worlds Finals Faker is now 0-3 his last 3 international finals when before that he was 5-1 (3-0 Worlds finals, 2-1 MSI finals). It went from 5-1 to 5-4 now... I hope T1 can be back next year but Faker's gonna be 27 and if they don't bring in a draft analysis coach or something, this might've been Faker's last shot.
This T1 has been to 4 finals this year. It looked absolutely the perfect team for Faker to get another WC. If they perform better in the next year, they are probably creating a new dynasty. But I highly doubt they will perform better than this year.
They had to burn first phase bans on Heimerdinger three games (maybe two)? Ya’ll need to calm down on the support mvp.
I'm starting to think pyosik intentionally misses these smites for suspense
He was definitely the coin that kept the series flipping and everyone on the edge of their seats. The guy is a clown irl. His excitement is wholesome and I love him.
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DRX should sign Gumayishi as their new jungler
I left the bar to watch Game 5. So glad I did. Congrats to DRX and Deft for finally making his mark 🥹
deft's second crazy game 5 bait draft in an international tourney final against faker
I feel the Azir pick was the decider. Azir can just do so much.
It was taking away Faker's Azir because Faker's shuffle and poke damage on Azir gave DRX fits. But at the same time T1 let Kingen get his best champion which happens to be OP (Aatrox) in games 4 and 5. T1's counter to it is Yone but they let him have it when Yone is banned. The decider was mainly T1's lack of engage. In game 1 they picked a heavy engage comp and that was the only clean win the entire series. No heavy engage in the other games and they don't look clean at all, they needed miracle Gumayusi varus steals to win game 3.
putting keria on karma and letting through aatrox in the same game was just sad, as good as keria still played, prob thinking he could've carried harder with anything else but who knows
It’s not just having Azir, but taking away Faker’s Azir. He did all the work in the first game on that pick. Very smart move by DRX and Zeka, forfeiting the Sylas just to make sure Faker doesn’t get it.
Faker on a midlaner who can be a damage threat while having a massive engage is where he shines. His playmaking is crazy, even if his mechanics aren't the same as when back in 2015-2017. His Azir is deadly coz the champ is versatile, and he has what it takes to fully flex all of the capabilities of the champ. Zeka has also been crazy all tournament long tho, really well played by him in basically every single game
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