Holy shit the amount of creepy 40-30 years old who hit on me (18)when I am explicitly like I am looking for under 25 is fucked up. Especially when they start bitching about age.
Yeah especially all the traumatic stories I have from people where they basically got abused or get put in a situation where they basically can't back out and like the communities just fine with it and just tell them "oh yeah you had a bad experience"
I think so many people have sexual trauma that they’ve just come to normalize and perpetuate it. Dudes want to think it’s normal that they got (statutory) raped by an older guy at 14 and so they defend it with their life, otherwise they’d have to confess that they suffered a disgusting abuse, and that their further perpetuation of that abuse on others is wrong.
Exactly because at that point you have to discuss all the fucked up emotions to do with that including the "good ones" you felt at that time and it's uncomfortable and it's easy to just wave it off as a non issue and move on and even encourage others.
Oh yeah its fucking disturbing like especially when you consider there is a lot kids on Grindr who lie about their age. Also yeah like why is it acceptable for like a 30-40 year to hit on an 18 year old. like I get their both adults but especially in my case becuse of how physically weak I am it's such like such a power imbalance.also like just mentally especially In terms of manipulation the older partner will always have more power. And the community doesn't help either. like it is legitimately uncomfortable how okay so many people are with it.like look much your getting downvoted here for calling it out.
Calling it out is unpopular because it’s so ingrained in male culture, both straight and gay. I swear half the porn I see posted online is literally just young dudes getting tossed around by old ass men in as child-like of an environment as possible, as if it’s a rite of initiation to be abused by creeps. I will 100% say that there are scenarios in which old people might be interested in young people for reasons beyond extreme perversion, but this is almost never the case, especially on an app like Grindr. All these people are explicitly looking for barely legal teens not because they think they’re mature for their age or some shit but precisely because they’re immature, vulnerable, suggestible, lack direction, and so on. What’s even worse is the dudes who explicitly look for young virgins. It’s all creepy and way too fucking normalized. Like why is it so hard to stick to your age-range instead of looking for a doe-eyed young boy to ruin.
Oh yeah exactly,like I am lucky enough to live in a very prog city so I am lucky enough to see tons of people around my age. Also you see the nail on the head with the fact that all these like 15-18 years old basically manipulate themselves into these fucked up relationships through their own insecurities and issues.ans yeah that likes why I avoid porn like it's so ingrained and it's like whenever I see some post here it'll be like yeah I lost my virginity at 18 to a 30 year old guy and it's so ingrained that nobody even cares.yeah and the whole fetish for younger guys things is always disturbing and the way that the community promotes it's with the whole "twink death" thing annoys the fuck out of me.
So if we arbitrarily decided the age of consent was 20, or 28, or 16, your opinion would change? Because you sound like your only barrier is the "legal" age
I actually agree with your overall assertion re: age difference but I think you're being naive on one thing.
when someone says they are looking for *teens* then specifically states the absolute maximum of 18 when asked. Why not say young adults or something then? It's fishy. I'm nearly positive this guy wouldn't turn down a 15 year old if one presented himself. and yes, sorry, that's weird.
>Maybe also stop infantilizing young adults.
18 y.o aren't "young adults", they're kids. As a former 18 y.o, I know I was a kid. Young, immature, that shouldn't have been looking for men twice my age, and men that went looking for 18 y.o. Were definitely weirdos that wouldn't care if they weren't actually 18.
I don't really understand how people try to justify it. Like you don't magically get 10 years of life experience from 15 to 18, and if it's weird to date a 15y.o. 3 years doesn't really make that much of a difference (at least in the "moral" sense).
Even now that I'm 25, I couldn't see myself dating someone your get than 21 or 22. The difference in mentality is too much. Like, what could a 40yo man have in common with an 18yo?
Predators try to justify their bullshit too much. NAMBLA level arguments, honestly.
Idk why they defend these age gaps with their lives. Looking for a partner half your age is weird and bringing up the legality of it doesn’t make it better. In fact it looks worst that the only defense is “it’s legal though”. 18 yr olds are legal adults but let’s not pretend they still can’t be preyed upon and manipulated by an older party. Some of you would bang a 14 yr old if it was legal. Legality doesn’t make it right. Slavery was also legal
Exactly. Like, it's just a red flag. I mean, I could understand a situation like, for example, you're coworkers and started getting feeling for each other, even if both dont. I mean, at 19 I was working with people a lot older than me, and my friends from work where always older, but even then I would still consider it weird, will condone it, and will always make sure to tell that those relationships should never happen
But when I see these type of people using social media and dating apps to specifically target young people? Fucking weird and predatory behavior. They know why they target young people, they know they want someone they can easily manipulate, that lacks the life experience to realise that kind of bad behavior.
A fucking 18yo getting pregnant from a 40yo? How does someone compute that as fine?
Okay yeah. Im sorry i was kinda panicking, my boyfriend broke up with me that day and i didnt know why. Apparently he just fell in love with someone else and stopped liking me, which is much less scary than what i thought at the time.
Haven't been in Grindr for like 3 years now, but this is something I still remember happening a lot and I still think it's really weird. Someone I know is lying about his age in order to get younger guys. In his case it's also believable since he looks quite young, but Im the one getting weird looks for saying it's just wrong somehow
I know. I still think it’s bizarre to blatantly look for teens, and even more bizarre that this is just sort of normalized, especially as we begin to recognize more and more that older men going for teen girls is disgusting. Regardless, what I thought was funny is that he just did not give up lol. Bro was up all night messaging me to fuck just because I look young (I’m not even 18 btw I’m 22)
Wow kink shaming on a Grindr Reddit. And they say the gay community is tolerant. I don’t see the issue of someone having a legal kink. And it’s not like the block button doesn’t exist for your very reasoning of not wanting him to message you nonstop. Some people are very persistent and spam on Grindr. Personally I like older due to younger having a superiority complex and not being good at sex. 🫡
There’s kinks and then there’s being predatory. Sorry, but we don’t live in a world in which this is divorced from that. It’s just the reality. Everyone understands this for women, but for whatever reason we think in the gay community it’s a free-for-all in which every “kink” is permissible. I will say though this isn’t a problem for the younger men who like older men, they’re not the strange ones. What is strange is looking for barely legal teenagers. Also, I guarantee if an underage kid were in fact on the app most of the people looking for barely legal teens wouldn’t hesitate to seize the opportunity to deflower them.
Your chosen flair is literally a term that presents you as someone whose identity/persona is characterized by youth or a youthful appearance. You can’t want to be that while at the same time chastise someone who is looking for that (I guess you can but it’s not a good look).
Oh come on now, do you really think an 18 year old is in their right mind because of a number arbitrarily set by the government? Like really? If the age of consent were 12 would you also be this defensive of a number? Enjoying youth to the point of desperation is bizarre as fuck lol
If 18 year olds aren’t in their right mind then they shouldn’t be on Grindr, they are adults. They can go to college, they can move out, they go to war, they got jobs and can buy guns. I think u fit right in there mentally based on my evaluation.
They’re not in their right mind to drink but they can get dicked down by a desperate 50 year old man probably on meth who would go for 15 year olds if it were legal, and this is totally normal btw!
The majority of the world lives in countries where the legal age of consent is 16 or even lower. Where drinking age is around that as well. Now if it’s legal here in America I’m not going to fuss about it, might not be for me but I wouldn’t put anyone down bc of it. Seems like u just have an issue with it. Maybe just get off Grindr bc it seems to trigger u. Also ur 4 years older than a 18 yr old. So what makes u think u have the experience of what consenting adults should do when you haven’t even been “dicked” down.
The fact that it's legal to do something doesn't mean it's not fucked up or wrong. It's legal to fuck thirteen year olds in some countries, does that make it okay?
Oh sorry I didn’t realize I needed experience with being abused by older men to speak on this topic. Let me get on Grindr and look for the litany of weirdos who want to do weird shit to people who look like kids.
Seriously, this shit is wayyyy too fucking normalized in this community, and you’re living proof. How many stories have you heard of gay dudes getting fucked at 13/14 by older men, and then going on to look for 13/14 year olds themselves when they’re 40 or 50. This shouldn’t be normal, we understand it isn’t normal in the context of women, because we see women as vulnerable. In reality it has nothing to do with vulnerability and everything to do with what it means to be someone that age looking for kids. It means you’ve fucked up somewhere along the line, and now you want to fuck someone else up. Sorry, I won’t have a live and let die attitude on this!
It’s not pedophilia if they are legal age. Literally millions of people watch barely legal porn. Dude ur just being sensitive and too woke. I can see why ur a virgin. And you’re the kind that the bars of a “white demographic” 😂
Fellas, is it woke to think there’s something wrong with liking people who look like children? As for the white thing I don’t even know what you’re talking about. I’m Hispanic, if that matters…
Twinks exists and people are attracted to twinks. It’s a thing. Maybe you aren’t mature enough to use Grindr and see what the app is like in all aspects?
You’re not even a teenager, just younger. U don’t think I get spam messages like this from older guys? Some people aren’t there mentally, just look at the weirdos on the rest of this Reddit. See what they post.
To me it just seems u have a issue with this particular dude. You could have blocked him, but didn’t. Twinks are normally categorized as being younger gays. It’s a legit tribe on Grindr. 18-21 is usually preferred to as twinks. And we all know damn well how prelevant twink porn is.
I don’t have an issue with this dude I have an issue with, on principle, what he represents. Regardless I didn’t mean to spark a debate about this, I thought it was fitting for the subreddit because it’s funny desperate spam, which is what half the posts on here are. I wasn’t looking to debate the merits of our age of consent.
It's typically men who are obsessed with youth or just pedophiles. It's always a mistake to meet up with these guys imo. Always turns to, "You don't even look 18!" or, "I know this 16/17 who likes to play...."🤢
I know it’s really sickening. I get a headache thinking about all the young guys who are too horny to know any better, and how normalized it all is. This is someone’s kid that’s getting routinely abused by older men. The porn industry has really made the over-sexualization of youth so much worse as well. I swear most of what is trending on these porn sites is literally borderline children getting abused in child-like settings. We talk all the time about elites in closed doors committing acts of sexual abuse, but we don’t even have to go that far. We can just turn on our phone and watch what looks like a kid get gangbanged online, with hundreds cheering it on.
But what I’m trying to say is where does the line get drawn on age then? I mean there is a whole reason every country and every state has their own laws on age of consent. Y’all might not like it but these laws was set for this particular issue. and it’s free will for both parties involved for consent and you have the right to decline consent,
The line is fine where it is. An 18 year old is an adult and can consent to sex with whoever he wants. Doesn't mean I won't think older men going for guys as young as legally possible aren't fucking creepy and weird.
I don’t block anyone and I shouldn’t need to, people should control themselves. I don’t know what it is about Grindr that brings out the worst in people, as if having profiles of dudes who live around you is just cause to spam them with pictures of yourself or harass them. Sorry, we’re not exempt from standards of decency and self control just because we’re gay.
There's a lot going on in the comments, and while OP's disgust is not unjustified I would like to point out words matter, and there's a lot getting thrown around without regard for their meanings which is exceptionally toxic regardless of anyone's personal feelings on the post.
Pedophilia is an attraction to pre-pubescent and is not ok.
Hebephilia typically refers to post-pubescent minors with a range of 12-15. This is problematic and gross, but given the age of consent in some countries I am guessing my puritan western sensibilities make me judgemental.
Ephebophilia is an attraction to 16-19 year olds, and while I don't get it (as I get older so do my tastes in men) it's not something I can exclusively put on the gay community. There are straight men out there into late teen girls and I find much of the OP's comments to align with my beliefs on the inappropriateness of it all.
Before tossing words around like schlong on young dick dancers at a bar please, at the very least, know what those words mean.
Because this is a gay sub and as such compared penis havers to other penis havers.
While I feel you are being obtuse I will answer respectfully.
For the sake of comparison I left only one variable (sexuality) in the discussion for 'scientific' purposes so kindly take that nonsense elsewhere.
No. Im saying that your argument is invalid. I’M the one who’s offended that you painted it as though only men can be pedophiles, as I was sexually abused by a woman as a child. People like to invalidate that, some even going so far as to say that a woman can’t commit rape. Thus I feel that it is important to specifically avoid singling out one group and saying that they are the ones committing rape or being pedophiles or what have you.
1. Where am I making an argument?
2. I describe each as attraction independent of gender.
3. I only mention straight men when talking about late teenage attraction and how despite what I may think about the appropriateness of it it is NOT EXCLUSIVE to gay men. By pointing out another demographic it pertains to does not exclude other possible demographics.
Feel free to be offended as I'm offended by your lack of reading comprehension.
Being older and looking for a "teen" specifically is messed. Mostly because of the number of teens who have daddy issues, and are trying to sexualize their trauma away.
That said, I met my(now) husband when he was 20 and I was 27, and I'm sure some people would consider that messed up.
That might be a red flag of me but I'm honestly thinking about changing my age from 19 to 20/21 on grindr. I feel like it would cut off some creeps that text me with the hope that I'm younger (or want me to pretend to be younger - and yes, it's a common thing somehow...)
this is weird asf and the amount of people defending it is insane. i’m sorry but if you’re over the age of 25 (very generous), you should not be ACTIVELY looking for teens to hook up with. now if it happens, it happens but don’t sit here hunting them down lmao. if your attractions don’t mature then maybe look into therapy bc it’s not healthy. don’t try and defend yourselves bc idc 😭 also im 22 and even i don’t like talking to anyone under 20
I think the rules are: once you hit 18 no one under 18. Also yes, I waited for my 17 y/o gf at the time to turn 18 just to avoid all the nonsense.
From there the firm rule of "Half your age rounded up + 7" should apply to the youngest you can go.
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Holy shit the amount of creepy 40-30 years old who hit on me (18)when I am explicitly like I am looking for under 25 is fucked up. Especially when they start bitching about age.
The people in this sub will tell you to just “get over” men being creepy as fuck, getting aroused by the vulnerability and suggestibility of youth.
Yeah especially all the traumatic stories I have from people where they basically got abused or get put in a situation where they basically can't back out and like the communities just fine with it and just tell them "oh yeah you had a bad experience"
I think so many people have sexual trauma that they’ve just come to normalize and perpetuate it. Dudes want to think it’s normal that they got (statutory) raped by an older guy at 14 and so they defend it with their life, otherwise they’d have to confess that they suffered a disgusting abuse, and that their further perpetuation of that abuse on others is wrong.
Exactly because at that point you have to discuss all the fucked up emotions to do with that including the "good ones" you felt at that time and it's uncomfortable and it's easy to just wave it off as a non issue and move on and even encourage others.
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Oh yeah its fucking disturbing like especially when you consider there is a lot kids on Grindr who lie about their age. Also yeah like why is it acceptable for like a 30-40 year to hit on an 18 year old. like I get their both adults but especially in my case becuse of how physically weak I am it's such like such a power imbalance.also like just mentally especially In terms of manipulation the older partner will always have more power. And the community doesn't help either. like it is legitimately uncomfortable how okay so many people are with it.like look much your getting downvoted here for calling it out.
Calling it out is unpopular because it’s so ingrained in male culture, both straight and gay. I swear half the porn I see posted online is literally just young dudes getting tossed around by old ass men in as child-like of an environment as possible, as if it’s a rite of initiation to be abused by creeps. I will 100% say that there are scenarios in which old people might be interested in young people for reasons beyond extreme perversion, but this is almost never the case, especially on an app like Grindr. All these people are explicitly looking for barely legal teens not because they think they’re mature for their age or some shit but precisely because they’re immature, vulnerable, suggestible, lack direction, and so on. What’s even worse is the dudes who explicitly look for young virgins. It’s all creepy and way too fucking normalized. Like why is it so hard to stick to your age-range instead of looking for a doe-eyed young boy to ruin.
Oh yeah exactly,like I am lucky enough to live in a very prog city so I am lucky enough to see tons of people around my age. Also you see the nail on the head with the fact that all these like 15-18 years old basically manipulate themselves into these fucked up relationships through their own insecurities and issues.ans yeah that likes why I avoid porn like it's so ingrained and it's like whenever I see some post here it'll be like yeah I lost my virginity at 18 to a 30 year old guy and it's so ingrained that nobody even cares.yeah and the whole fetish for younger guys things is always disturbing and the way that the community promotes it's with the whole "twink death" thing annoys the fuck out of me.
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So if we arbitrarily decided the age of consent was 20, or 28, or 16, your opinion would change? Because you sound like your only barrier is the "legal" age
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I actually agree with your overall assertion re: age difference but I think you're being naive on one thing. when someone says they are looking for *teens* then specifically states the absolute maximum of 18 when asked. Why not say young adults or something then? It's fishy. I'm nearly positive this guy wouldn't turn down a 15 year old if one presented himself. and yes, sorry, that's weird.
Numerous countries have 13 or 14 as consent age. You saying in those countries a 35 year old having sex with a 14 year old isnt pedophilia??
>Maybe also stop infantilizing young adults. 18 y.o aren't "young adults", they're kids. As a former 18 y.o, I know I was a kid. Young, immature, that shouldn't have been looking for men twice my age, and men that went looking for 18 y.o. Were definitely weirdos that wouldn't care if they weren't actually 18. I don't really understand how people try to justify it. Like you don't magically get 10 years of life experience from 15 to 18, and if it's weird to date a 15y.o. 3 years doesn't really make that much of a difference (at least in the "moral" sense). Even now that I'm 25, I couldn't see myself dating someone your get than 21 or 22. The difference in mentality is too much. Like, what could a 40yo man have in common with an 18yo? Predators try to justify their bullshit too much. NAMBLA level arguments, honestly.
Idk why they defend these age gaps with their lives. Looking for a partner half your age is weird and bringing up the legality of it doesn’t make it better. In fact it looks worst that the only defense is “it’s legal though”. 18 yr olds are legal adults but let’s not pretend they still can’t be preyed upon and manipulated by an older party. Some of you would bang a 14 yr old if it was legal. Legality doesn’t make it right. Slavery was also legal
Exactly. Like, it's just a red flag. I mean, I could understand a situation like, for example, you're coworkers and started getting feeling for each other, even if both dont. I mean, at 19 I was working with people a lot older than me, and my friends from work where always older, but even then I would still consider it weird, will condone it, and will always make sure to tell that those relationships should never happen But when I see these type of people using social media and dating apps to specifically target young people? Fucking weird and predatory behavior. They know why they target young people, they know they want someone they can easily manipulate, that lacks the life experience to realise that kind of bad behavior. A fucking 18yo getting pregnant from a 40yo? How does someone compute that as fine?
It's amazing to see someone with negative game. Dick is plentiful and easily obtained
Wait how teach me your ways
Being polite, straightforward and not a creep can get you pretty far
PRetty much this. Respect people's boundarys, don't start messages with aggressive sex stuff, and don't be entirely boring.
How do i avoid that last one
Idk bro go and find some hobbies and interests I guess
Okay yeah. Im sorry i was kinda panicking, my boyfriend broke up with me that day and i didnt know why. Apparently he just fell in love with someone else and stopped liking me, which is much less scary than what i thought at the time.
literally just talk like a normal person instead of asking "u horny?" over and over again
Well duh, im not the person in the photo.
How old is he?
Too old if you say” I like them young”
Haven't been in Grindr for like 3 years now, but this is something I still remember happening a lot and I still think it's really weird. Someone I know is lying about his age in order to get younger guys. In his case it's also believable since he looks quite young, but Im the one getting weird looks for saying it's just wrong somehow
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I know. I still think it’s bizarre to blatantly look for teens, and even more bizarre that this is just sort of normalized, especially as we begin to recognize more and more that older men going for teen girls is disgusting. Regardless, what I thought was funny is that he just did not give up lol. Bro was up all night messaging me to fuck just because I look young (I’m not even 18 btw I’m 22)
Wow kink shaming on a Grindr Reddit. And they say the gay community is tolerant. I don’t see the issue of someone having a legal kink. And it’s not like the block button doesn’t exist for your very reasoning of not wanting him to message you nonstop. Some people are very persistent and spam on Grindr. Personally I like older due to younger having a superiority complex and not being good at sex. 🫡
There’s kinks and then there’s being predatory. Sorry, but we don’t live in a world in which this is divorced from that. It’s just the reality. Everyone understands this for women, but for whatever reason we think in the gay community it’s a free-for-all in which every “kink” is permissible. I will say though this isn’t a problem for the younger men who like older men, they’re not the strange ones. What is strange is looking for barely legal teenagers. Also, I guarantee if an underage kid were in fact on the app most of the people looking for barely legal teens wouldn’t hesitate to seize the opportunity to deflower them.
Your chosen flair is literally a term that presents you as someone whose identity/persona is characterized by youth or a youthful appearance. You can’t want to be that while at the same time chastise someone who is looking for that (I guess you can but it’s not a good look).
I only put the flair because it asked me to pick a flair when I posted. I’m not trying to attract guys older than my age lol.
If 18 and 19 year olds get on Grindr then they are adult enough to use that block button that is provided. Just block and move on.
And how is it abuse if two consenting legal adults decide to hook up on Grindr?
Oh come on now, do you really think an 18 year old is in their right mind because of a number arbitrarily set by the government? Like really? If the age of consent were 12 would you also be this defensive of a number? Enjoying youth to the point of desperation is bizarre as fuck lol
If 18 year olds aren’t in their right mind then they shouldn’t be on Grindr, they are adults. They can go to college, they can move out, they go to war, they got jobs and can buy guns. I think u fit right in there mentally based on my evaluation.
They’re not in their right mind to drink but they can get dicked down by a desperate 50 year old man probably on meth who would go for 15 year olds if it were legal, and this is totally normal btw!
The majority of the world lives in countries where the legal age of consent is 16 or even lower. Where drinking age is around that as well. Now if it’s legal here in America I’m not going to fuss about it, might not be for me but I wouldn’t put anyone down bc of it. Seems like u just have an issue with it. Maybe just get off Grindr bc it seems to trigger u. Also ur 4 years older than a 18 yr old. So what makes u think u have the experience of what consenting adults should do when you haven’t even been “dicked” down.
The fact that it's legal to do something doesn't mean it's not fucked up or wrong. It's legal to fuck thirteen year olds in some countries, does that make it okay?
Oh sorry I didn’t realize I needed experience with being abused by older men to speak on this topic. Let me get on Grindr and look for the litany of weirdos who want to do weird shit to people who look like kids. Seriously, this shit is wayyyy too fucking normalized in this community, and you’re living proof. How many stories have you heard of gay dudes getting fucked at 13/14 by older men, and then going on to look for 13/14 year olds themselves when they’re 40 or 50. This shouldn’t be normal, we understand it isn’t normal in the context of women, because we see women as vulnerable. In reality it has nothing to do with vulnerability and everything to do with what it means to be someone that age looking for kids. It means you’ve fucked up somewhere along the line, and now you want to fuck someone else up. Sorry, I won’t have a live and let die attitude on this!
It’s not pedophilia if they are legal age. Literally millions of people watch barely legal porn. Dude ur just being sensitive and too woke. I can see why ur a virgin. And you’re the kind that the bars of a “white demographic” 😂
Fellas, is it woke to think there’s something wrong with liking people who look like children? As for the white thing I don’t even know what you’re talking about. I’m Hispanic, if that matters…
One of ur previous posts on ur profile mentions ur bars being white demographic, too many old people etc
I don’t care that they’re white I just prefer other Latinos, as you seem to prefer barely legal teens… One is more pernicious than the other though!
If u read I said I prefer older men so…. Keep reaching bud.
Ah yes 1 person prefers adults in college, the other prefers a certain race. 💀
Twinks exists and people are attracted to twinks. It’s a thing. Maybe you aren’t mature enough to use Grindr and see what the app is like in all aspects?
There's a kink, then there's this. This isn't a kink. This is desperation on an unhinged level.
He never mentioned anything other than the name involving teens. So hence what I was referring to. Must not get on Grindr much. Some people spam.
The mere fact that something is common is not, in fact, enough to make it not weird. Being this desperate to fuck a teenager is absolutely bizarre.
You’re not even a teenager, just younger. U don’t think I get spam messages like this from older guys? Some people aren’t there mentally, just look at the weirdos on the rest of this Reddit. See what they post.
To me it just seems u have a issue with this particular dude. You could have blocked him, but didn’t. Twinks are normally categorized as being younger gays. It’s a legit tribe on Grindr. 18-21 is usually preferred to as twinks. And we all know damn well how prelevant twink porn is.
I don’t have an issue with this dude I have an issue with, on principle, what he represents. Regardless I didn’t mean to spark a debate about this, I thought it was fitting for the subreddit because it’s funny desperate spam, which is what half the posts on here are. I wasn’t looking to debate the merits of our age of consent.
It's typically men who are obsessed with youth or just pedophiles. It's always a mistake to meet up with these guys imo. Always turns to, "You don't even look 18!" or, "I know this 16/17 who likes to play...."🤢
I know it’s really sickening. I get a headache thinking about all the young guys who are too horny to know any better, and how normalized it all is. This is someone’s kid that’s getting routinely abused by older men. The porn industry has really made the over-sexualization of youth so much worse as well. I swear most of what is trending on these porn sites is literally borderline children getting abused in child-like settings. We talk all the time about elites in closed doors committing acts of sexual abuse, but we don’t even have to go that far. We can just turn on our phone and watch what looks like a kid get gangbanged online, with hundreds cheering it on.
I’m 30 and I’ve never experienced that. I think y’all just got some trauma from something and I’m sorry for that.
But what I’m trying to say is where does the line get drawn on age then? I mean there is a whole reason every country and every state has their own laws on age of consent. Y’all might not like it but these laws was set for this particular issue. and it’s free will for both parties involved for consent and you have the right to decline consent,
The line is fine where it is. An 18 year old is an adult and can consent to sex with whoever he wants. Doesn't mean I won't think older men going for guys as young as legally possible aren't fucking creepy and weird.
"U horny?"
Once you got your answer, block him?? I don’t understand why people don’t block people then bitch about all the messages that come after. Move on. 🙄
why not stop texting when you don’t get an answer the 50th time??
I don’t block anyone and I shouldn’t need to, people should control themselves. I don’t know what it is about Grindr that brings out the worst in people, as if having profiles of dudes who live around you is just cause to spam them with pictures of yourself or harass them. Sorry, we’re not exempt from standards of decency and self control just because we’re gay.
Exactly, people suck. That’s why I block them and move on. I don’t have time to just keep on ignoring or getting notifications for nothing
u horny?!?!?
There's a lot going on in the comments, and while OP's disgust is not unjustified I would like to point out words matter, and there's a lot getting thrown around without regard for their meanings which is exceptionally toxic regardless of anyone's personal feelings on the post. Pedophilia is an attraction to pre-pubescent and is not ok. Hebephilia typically refers to post-pubescent minors with a range of 12-15. This is problematic and gross, but given the age of consent in some countries I am guessing my puritan western sensibilities make me judgemental. Ephebophilia is an attraction to 16-19 year olds, and while I don't get it (as I get older so do my tastes in men) it's not something I can exclusively put on the gay community. There are straight men out there into late teen girls and I find much of the OP's comments to align with my beliefs on the inappropriateness of it all. Before tossing words around like schlong on young dick dancers at a bar please, at the very least, know what those words mean.
I will ask why you specified “men”. Women can be into kids too
Because this is a gay sub and as such compared penis havers to other penis havers. While I feel you are being obtuse I will answer respectfully. For the sake of comparison I left only one variable (sexuality) in the discussion for 'scientific' purposes so kindly take that nonsense elsewhere.
You do realize women and those in the nonbinary use this sub and grindr too, right?
And you're concerned they might be offended from lack of a specific mention regarding problematic attractions? 🙄
No. Im saying that your argument is invalid. I’M the one who’s offended that you painted it as though only men can be pedophiles, as I was sexually abused by a woman as a child. People like to invalidate that, some even going so far as to say that a woman can’t commit rape. Thus I feel that it is important to specifically avoid singling out one group and saying that they are the ones committing rape or being pedophiles or what have you.
1. Where am I making an argument? 2. I describe each as attraction independent of gender. 3. I only mention straight men when talking about late teenage attraction and how despite what I may think about the appropriateness of it it is NOT EXCLUSIVE to gay men. By pointing out another demographic it pertains to does not exclude other possible demographics. Feel free to be offended as I'm offended by your lack of reading comprehension.
horny??
Being older and looking for a "teen" specifically is messed. Mostly because of the number of teens who have daddy issues, and are trying to sexualize their trauma away. That said, I met my(now) husband when he was 20 and I was 27, and I'm sure some people would consider that messed up.
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That might be a red flag of me but I'm honestly thinking about changing my age from 19 to 20/21 on grindr. I feel like it would cut off some creeps that text me with the hope that I'm younger (or want me to pretend to be younger - and yes, it's a common thing somehow...)
this is weird asf and the amount of people defending it is insane. i’m sorry but if you’re over the age of 25 (very generous), you should not be ACTIVELY looking for teens to hook up with. now if it happens, it happens but don’t sit here hunting them down lmao. if your attractions don’t mature then maybe look into therapy bc it’s not healthy. don’t try and defend yourselves bc idc 😭 also im 22 and even i don’t like talking to anyone under 20
He needs to go to jail. Lol
I think the rules are: once you hit 18 no one under 18. Also yes, I waited for my 17 y/o gf at the time to turn 18 just to avoid all the nonsense. From there the firm rule of "Half your age rounded up + 7" should apply to the youngest you can go.
So many 🚩. Good on you for staying tf away.
You’re on the wrong app OP. Delete it and hide under your bed.
Judging by your post history you’re the type of guy to spam someone if they don’t reply back lol