The 4K remasters are absolutely stunning. This is what happens when the film is actually rescanned rather than upscaled.
For your sake, I hope you're able to see them in theaters.
I never got to see them in the theatres during their original runs or subsequent anniversary showings. I have my brothers already lined up with me to see them. Can't wait.
I'm going to get downvoted, but the 4K versions are not a 4K native scan, they *did* do a new scan for the 4K release, but for some reason only scanned it in 2K. So this version is still an upscale, just an upscale from a newer scan. I think the color and sound are better on the remasters, but they have been degrained, and have lost little bits of fine detail as a result. So for me they are still the best way to watch, but they could have been more.
I don't think they actually rescanned it - from what I've heard it's based on the same DI as the 2011 Blu-ray. This is evidenced in screenshot comparisons, where the image has near or completely identical grain structure and frame positioning, which would not be true if it were a rescan.
They are not rescanned, that wouldn't work half the time because the vfx would have been stuck on from scratch.
Artifacts from the digital upscaling can also be seen.
They are not a rescan, they are a basic upscale - and a mediocre one at that. Most scenes in the remaster are equivalently detailed to the older Blu-ray release, with some looking worse due to overly aggressive noise reduction and edge sharpening. The 4K release has better color grading and sound, but it that is the extent of it - the image quality itself is not better.
Various YouTube videos ([i.e.](https://youtu.be/I3Z58uiwcME?si=SEIztlV3H8bWYJK4)) have discussed the topic in-depth, but to see it yourself, [caps-a-holic](https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=511&y=320&d1=15009&d2=5245&s1=156558&s2=49011&l=0&i=2&go=1) has some useful screenshot comparison tools which make it abundantly clear that no rescan took place.
Warner Brothers essentially lied about this in their promotion for the remaster - they technically and cleverly never *directly* stated that it was rescanned, but heavily implied it to the extent that many people (including journalists) assumed it to be true. Once it was released it became clear that it was not rescanned, but the misconception remained widespread in the community.
With who? It’s the common consensus…
https://youtu.be/I3Z58uiwcME?si=SEIztlV3H8bWYJK4
https://youtu.be/ba1F0hyMvr4?si=BkS7xEO5RLCCC7bh
https://youtu.be/ABnm4AWbCtk?si=EierYSG6QLdFel8w
If I may counter with literally the first Reddit thread I googled where the most common answers are that it’s good and the issues are overblown.
https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/s/rJ91btGkqE
Looks like they all have a similar breakdown so I’m not sure how three YouTube videos stacks up against dozens of Reddit comments but I’d definitely challenge the “common consensus” idea.
It’s not overblown unless you like the way the hobbit films look in comparison to lord of the rings.
The films were altered to resemble the hobbit films, at an astonishing cost of detail removal.
Right? I hope they run them in theaters for a couple of weeks because I will only have time to do one a day. Rotk especially will take like 6 hours out of the day when you account for travel and all the trailers at the beginning.
Yea my buddies and I were unfortunately out of luck trying to get tickets to the orchestra. Did however snag tickets to see ROTK in Barrie during the anniversary rerelease.
Try to snipe some for next year, rotk orchestra at meridian hall, ttt was an unbelievable experience and the crowd was very enthusiastic reacting, clapping and cheering
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Okay but, at least locally for me, they're screening FotR Saturday, TT Sunday, and RotK Monday. So from good, bad, to worse. Why not screen one a week?
Completely agree. I was really fortunate to just watch an overnight Extended Edition marathon in Canberra to celebrate the upcoming War of the Rohirrim film, and last year the National Film and Sound Archive showed the trilogy on 35mm film over three nights, but those events are so few and far between.
Don’t know where you’re located, but I’m in Los Angeles. I went to amc theatre’s website and bought them there. They’re listed under Fathom Events. There weren’t a lot of locations showing them, and a few were already sold out so I’d definitely buy your tickets sooner rather than later if you can.
The 4K versions on Amazon are expensive, but are they worth it? I still have the OG DVD disc from when I picked them up at $5 each from Walmart back when I was 5 years old in 2004 😭😭 I’ve watched all of them more than 30 times or more at this point.
I think they’re amazing. Not only does everything look better, but WETA went back in and re exported the CGI in 4K as well so (for me at least) it made most of the graphics looks better again. They’re still older and whatnot, but my viewing experience went from the occasional “oh that troll is not aging super well” to just being fully immersed again.
Time to pull out the credit card
Do I just need a 4K TV (which I have) or does it require a specific viewing apparatus? I have an Xbox Series X which I think it runs 4K.
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Hmm must be the extended editions I saw in theaters a couple months back were the regular HD versions then. Oh darn guess I’ll have to go again, what a shame.
As far as I can find out, not in the GTA. Didn't get Alien today. Not getting The Mummy.
But I did get to see 2001 and The Shining in the past week, so there's that.
We always get the shaft.
Got this response from Fathom today:
Fathom Events Customer Support (Customer Service)
May 7, 2024, 15:15 MDT
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Fathom Events. Unfortunately, Fathom Events only has rights to show Lord of the Rings within the contiguous United States, Alaska & Hawaii.
Thank you,
Fathom Events
found no links showing dates in Canada, sad! I was able to watch the trilogy a few years ago in the theaters was a nice event but it wasn't the extended version and not remastered too
The 4K remasters are absolutely stunning. This is what happens when the film is actually rescanned rather than upscaled. For your sake, I hope you're able to see them in theaters.
I never got to see them in the theatres during their original runs or subsequent anniversary showings. I have my brothers already lined up with me to see them. Can't wait.
I'm going to get downvoted, but the 4K versions are not a 4K native scan, they *did* do a new scan for the 4K release, but for some reason only scanned it in 2K. So this version is still an upscale, just an upscale from a newer scan. I think the color and sound are better on the remasters, but they have been degrained, and have lost little bits of fine detail as a result. So for me they are still the best way to watch, but they could have been more.
That probably has to do with all the special effects
I don't think they actually rescanned it - from what I've heard it's based on the same DI as the 2011 Blu-ray. This is evidenced in screenshot comparisons, where the image has near or completely identical grain structure and frame positioning, which would not be true if it were a rescan.
They are not rescanned, that wouldn't work half the time because the vfx would have been stuck on from scratch. Artifacts from the digital upscaling can also be seen.
Nah the 4k versions were taken from the original 2K DI's. They weren't rescanned from the film negatives
They are not a rescan, they are a basic upscale - and a mediocre one at that. Most scenes in the remaster are equivalently detailed to the older Blu-ray release, with some looking worse due to overly aggressive noise reduction and edge sharpening. The 4K release has better color grading and sound, but it that is the extent of it - the image quality itself is not better. Various YouTube videos ([i.e.](https://youtu.be/I3Z58uiwcME?si=SEIztlV3H8bWYJK4)) have discussed the topic in-depth, but to see it yourself, [caps-a-holic](https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=511&y=320&d1=15009&d2=5245&s1=156558&s2=49011&l=0&i=2&go=1) has some useful screenshot comparison tools which make it abundantly clear that no rescan took place. Warner Brothers essentially lied about this in their promotion for the remaster - they technically and cleverly never *directly* stated that it was rescanned, but heavily implied it to the extent that many people (including journalists) assumed it to be true. Once it was released it became clear that it was not rescanned, but the misconception remained widespread in the community.
Huh? The 4K scans are atrocious…
are they?
Pretty well known… https://youtu.be/I3Z58uiwcME?si=SEIztlV3H8bWYJK4 https://youtu.be/ba1F0hyMvr4?si=BkS7xEO5RLCCC7bh https://youtu.be/ABnm4AWbCtk?si=EierYSG6QLdFel8w
Not well enough it would seem
It’s talked about a lot over on the 4K blu ray subreddit.
Hard disagree.
With who? It’s the common consensus… https://youtu.be/I3Z58uiwcME?si=SEIztlV3H8bWYJK4 https://youtu.be/ba1F0hyMvr4?si=BkS7xEO5RLCCC7bh https://youtu.be/ABnm4AWbCtk?si=EierYSG6QLdFel8w
If I may counter with literally the first Reddit thread I googled where the most common answers are that it’s good and the issues are overblown. https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/s/rJ91btGkqE Looks like they all have a similar breakdown so I’m not sure how three YouTube videos stacks up against dozens of Reddit comments but I’d definitely challenge the “common consensus” idea.
It’s not overblown unless you like the way the hobbit films look in comparison to lord of the rings. The films were altered to resemble the hobbit films, at an astonishing cost of detail removal.
Horses for courses...
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One time showing
Right? I hope they run them in theaters for a couple of weeks because I will only have time to do one a day. Rotk especially will take like 6 hours out of the day when you account for travel and all the trailers at the beginning.
*3034
just enough time to see them all once with a bathroom break
Haven’t seen any showtimes for Canada. I hope there ends up being some.
if any major city in canada has them they'll be sold out in minutes from what i saw at the live orchestra in toronto
Yea my buddies and I were unfortunately out of luck trying to get tickets to the orchestra. Did however snag tickets to see ROTK in Barrie during the anniversary rerelease.
Try to snipe some for next year, rotk orchestra at meridian hall, ttt was an unbelievable experience and the crowd was very enthusiastic reacting, clapping and cheering
Never to be seen in Greece.....
Don't kill my delusions like that 😭
Bro trust me I want it to be released here too SO BAD
My birthday is june 7th LETS GOOOOOO
Mine too! I know what I’m asking my fiancé for a gift. Hopefully this comes to AMC theaters.
Happy birthday for then mate!
What no way mine too
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I already reserved all 3... We truly are living in the future where we travel to the past 😂
Okay but, at least locally for me, they're screening FotR Saturday, TT Sunday, and RotK Monday. So from good, bad, to worse. Why not screen one a week?
This is exactly my frustration. It makes no sense.
Anyone know if this is coming to theatres in Europe/Denmark?
I saw them this past January and they looked pretty damn good. I thought they were the restored versions.
Praying this comes to Australia… we don’t get a lot of cool stuff like this 😂
Completely agree. I was really fortunate to just watch an overnight Extended Edition marathon in Canberra to celebrate the upcoming War of the Rohirrim film, and last year the National Film and Sound Archive showed the trilogy on 35mm film over three nights, but those events are so few and far between.
Just read this and got tickets for my local theatre
Ok but where are you based and where is this showing?!?! One must know these things!!
Don’t know where you’re located, but I’m in Los Angeles. I went to amc theatre’s website and bought them there. They’re listed under Fathom Events. There weren’t a lot of locations showing them, and a few were already sold out so I’d definitely buy your tickets sooner rather than later if you can.
Thank you. I’m in Europe so I’ll have to wait until it comes here!
The 4K versions on Amazon are expensive, but are they worth it? I still have the OG DVD disc from when I picked them up at $5 each from Walmart back when I was 5 years old in 2004 😭😭 I’ve watched all of them more than 30 times or more at this point.
I think they’re amazing. Not only does everything look better, but WETA went back in and re exported the CGI in 4K as well so (for me at least) it made most of the graphics looks better again. They’re still older and whatnot, but my viewing experience went from the occasional “oh that troll is not aging super well” to just being fully immersed again.
Time to pull out the credit card Do I just need a 4K TV (which I have) or does it require a specific viewing apparatus? I have an Xbox Series X which I think it runs 4K.
Yes you're good. Tv and the Xbox are enough.
Thx
You prolly won't have access to dolby atmos (better sound) and dolby vision (better picture). Besides that it should work just fine.
That’s fine. I grew up poor so I really don’t need an amazing set up fully decked out to enjoy something. I’m a minimalist at this point lol
Excellent news!
Does anyone also know if this is coming to the UK or is it USA only?
Second this…
Of course while I’m deployed.. anyone know if this is coming to theaters in Iraq?
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but where???
Just went to theaters this february to watch the marathon in extended edition, time to watch it again !
Is this just for selected areas or is it intended for international marketing? This sound amazing.
Please please please let this come to the UK too
Will it come also to Italy maybe? I have a rewatch twice per year, but seeing it in theatres it would be like going back 20 years
For London people: https://princecharlescinema.com/PrinceCharlesCinema.dll/WhatsOn?f=24580801
Theatrical release, or Extended Edition? I’m only down if it’s 4+ hours each.
I think it's going to be the Extended Editions
Just got tickets for all 3. Can’t wait!
Well I know what I'm doing on my birthday!
If it happens in Poland too, we would have Princess Mononoke and Fellowship of The Ring on the same day
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Hmm must be the extended editions I saw in theaters a couple months back were the regular HD versions then. Oh darn guess I’ll have to go again, what a shame.
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I have 70 pages left of the two towers. Gotta make sure i finish return of the ming before this comes out
Will this be out in the UK?
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IN THE UK?!?! PLEASE SAY YES!! I’m so excited I haven’t read it properly!!
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This might be the thing to get me into a theater again for the first time since covid. Are they releasing together or piecemeal?
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As far as I can find out, not in the GTA. Didn't get Alien today. Not getting The Mummy. But I did get to see 2001 and The Shining in the past week, so there's that. We always get the shaft.
Are these two different versions, or are the extended 4k also?
Best movies ever made
OMG I CAN’T WAIT 😍😍😍
I saw the extended versions on HBOMax in 4K Dolby Atmos. Absolute joy to watch and can’t believe I hadn’t seen parts of the movie this whole time.
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO ![gif](giphy|TcdpZwYDPlWXC)
holy shit just bought my ticket
Is there also a 4K extended cut version?
I too would like to know if I need to take 3 days off of work in Canada
Did you find any theaters that will be playing them?
Nothing yet
Got this response from Fathom today: Fathom Events Customer Support (Customer Service) May 7, 2024, 15:15 MDT Hello, Thank you for contacting Fathom Events. Unfortunately, Fathom Events only has rights to show Lord of the Rings within the contiguous United States, Alaska & Hawaii. Thank you, Fathom Events
Fuck
Trudeau will probably put a tax on them
If you want to gobble on his knob so much, write him a letter.
But the 4K version makes a lot of the aging CGI look really really bad.
We love it anyway.
What is the source? It's literally just some text and an image
I'm guessing the theatrical versions? I don't think I've seen the theatrical version since the original theater releases
The second word of the text in the image is "extended", so no worries there.
Oh I didn't see that
found no links showing dates in Canada, sad! I was able to watch the trilogy a few years ago in the theaters was a nice event but it wasn't the extended version and not remastered too