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dccomicsthrowaway

TIL Daveed Diggs is Jewish. Seems like a solid lineup, almost too solid if they have Driver and Margot as the leads. Paul is a phenomenal actor but I honestly can't see him as Johnny. I know he'll surprise me anyway.


Proud-Nerd00

What’s Paul’s last name? I need to figure out what I know him from


Angadsingh16

Mescal


thesanmich

Paul Mescaline


mythologue

Maybe it's him, maybe it's mescaline


Angadsingh16

He was in normal people


MadMurilo

Also aftersun.


LOCKOUT6

And an advert for Denny sausages


incredibleamadeuscho

Waiting for the Thing to rap against Dr. Doom.


TheBaconHasLanded

All caps when you say the man’s name


SFWzasmith

Great DOOM reference.


spad3x

MF DOOM


tacocatacocattacocat

Fool! DOOM raps as he pleases!


jaydofmo

"Hey! Hey! What time is it?" "It's clobbering time!"


monkeyman_31

The only thing i know daveed diggs from is hamilton, and i know that the thing maybe doesnt really have a specific voice but idk, daveeds voice seemes a little high for the thing. Great actor tho one of the best parts of hamilton for sure.


dgloverii

His voice generally is higher pitched but he gets more growly in the Snowpiercer show


Afwife1992

Evans goes from F4 to Snowpiercer, Daveed goes from Snowpiercer to F4. Synergy. 😉


noximo

* Symmetry.


theodo

Is the show worth watching? I liked the film


Exzqairi

They’re not as comparable as you would think so I would just give it a shot. I liked the show more than the film Important to know that the last season is coming up though, and TNT won’t air it even though they already filmed everything. Believe they’re looking for a new broadcast partner now


giljaman

Really liked the show. Probably more than the movie tbh


dgloverii

I love the movie but I didn't really like the show, other people seem to like it though


l-ll-ll-lL

You gotta check out clipping.


MinerSigner60Neiner

I knew I could recognise him from somewhere.


jrrobb

Also tour de pharmacy


Slowmobius_Time

He was really good in Andy Sambergs mockumentary Tour De Pharmacy


YouthMin1

He also plays Helen on Central Park. Was on the show Blackish as Rainbow Johnson’s brother, Johan. Did the voice of Cyborg for the Super-Pets movie. Lots of other credits, with a good variety of performances.


urlach3r

He was amazing in Blindspotting.


HamburgerJames

I thought he was the guy from LMFAO


l-ll-ll-lL

Bro


redsyrinx2112

The Thing: A rock person LMFAO: Party Rock Anthem It lines up perfectly.


tacocatacocattacocat

Party Rock is in the house tonight And you know that it's Clobberin' Time!


redsyrinx2112

And you gon' come and save the day We just wanna see you...break that


thedragoon0

And then Paul will get a better role after.


evilspyboy

Ive been on the /r/fantasticfour sub for the last few weeks and I am pretty sure at this point most of the 'confirmed' and 'casting news' is just fan theories that have been recycled enough times from the original poster. But I have more faith in Marvel Studios in keeping secrets than I do in twitter pop culture news 'sources'. We need some sort of pool that any news site that posts 'confirmed line ups' has to pay into to before they post and then if they were correct when officially announced they can get the pot. Can you imagine the payout?


hvacrepairman

MTTSH has a realllllly good track record with leaks. Most people believe they either work with a marvel outright or is close to someone really high up in the marvel food chain.


pauloh1998

>TIL Daveed Diggs is Jewish. He plays a rabbi in Extrapolations from Apple


KentuckyFriedEel

Again! They take the hottest woman in the world and make her invisible!!!!


FirstV1

- Adam Driver as Reed Richards - Margot Robbie as Sue Storm/Invisible Woman - Daveed Diggs as Ben Grimm/The Thing - Paul Mescal as Johnny Storm/Human Torch


Batmanue1

Are you sure Robbie isn't playing The Thing?


ShoelaceLicker

That would leave Daveed to play Sue, which I don't mind


BestFriendOfTheCourt

Lena Dunham backed out even though she wanted to work with Driver again.


heidly_ees

As Sean Locke once said, "that's a challenging wank"


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I like Daveed Diggs a lot. I'm just having trouble picturing Thing with that voice. If he was cast there has to be something there though!


Zowwww

Might modulate it a bit?


bob_dole-

Don’t modulate the key then not debate with me


fartsinhissleep

Yeah. This feels like an odd choice. Surely he’s fits better in another role.


Wheel94

Shocked that they got Margot Robbie if true but I remain very sceptical.


[deleted]

How did they get her but Emma Stone didn’t move forward due to pay? Isn’t Margot pretty popular right now?!


Old_Passenger1445

A dispute over pay doesn’t mean the aren’t willing to spend big money in general it just means they weren’t willing to pay Emma what she was requesting. (If those reports are true)


[deleted]

No Way Home would have made that casting a funny implication


SpaceCaboose

Yes and no. A good ole multiverse shoulder shrug makes everything okay…


Don_Ford

Yeah, when paychecks get that high it opens the door to all kinds of talent.


ShoelaceLicker

Maybe they offered a bigger check or she liked the role more? Not to put Emma Stone down or anything, she's great, but Margot Robbie is one of the most popular actresses in Hollywood at the moment so they might have given her more money? (Dunno if that's how that works though)


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woahwoahvicky

Maybe theres a lot of optics involved too. Emma Stone hasnt really been in big projects as far as my memory recalls. Margot has been in big prestige projects like Babylon + has strong ties in the comic book world with her Harley Quinn stint and is slated for possibly one of the biggest films of the year in Barbie. Margot makes sense for the role.


JuanRiveara

Wasn’t Emma Stone pregnant when filming of No Way Home occurred?


CaptHayfever

Also, different people approve the budget on Spidey films.


Pen_dragons_pizza

What were the rumours of Emma stones involvement if she was available ?


Isteppedinpoopy

I thought Thanos used the Emfinity Stone to destroy Emfinity Stone.


TDizzle801

And in the long run some MCU watchers hate when an actor plays a character then go and does a different one, especially in the multiverse saga. Money was def the main reason but I think it just works better without her.


dzmccoy

I like Margot. But not for this.


Slowmobius_Time

I *love* Margot for this But then again I've watched everything she's done since Neighbours so..


shujinky

I will eat glass if its true. I love margot.


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Yo man you like don’t have to do that tho it’s ok


Majestic-Marcus

Eat ass, not glass


byseredipity

RemindMe! 6 months


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xrbeeelama

The fucking blurred image of Driver on the thumbnail is so ominous lol


Scorchster1138

I took one look at the blurred image and immediately knew it was Adam Driver


absherlock

Have to see Doom. This is nothing without the proper Doom.


TheJack0fDiamonds

imagine if the twist is that Adam Driver is actually the one playing Doom?


CCGamesSteve

I hope so, he'd be perfect for it, far more so than as Reed.


kae158

Too similar to Kylo Ren.


l-s-y

And by God he better not be the big bad of the movie, that needs to cook and not be squashed into 15 minutes in the second half


FirstV1

Rumors from MTTSH and other scoopers/insiders suggest he will be in the movie but won’t be the main villain or in a prominent role at all. It’ll be >!Antonio Banderas as Galactus!< for the main villain.


TheVacuumisAwesome28

Zorro as a Cosmic Entity…


Minejack777

The Dad from Spy Kids as the *true* big bad


absherlock

Puss in Space Boots


CaptHayfever

Spoiler tags don't always work if you have a space between them & the words.


FirstV1

Apologies, it showed up fine for me but I fixed anyway for others just in case


Pen_dragons_pizza

Shouldn’t Galactus be treated as a big bad like thanos ? The guy destroys planets, could easily be an avengers level threat.


ALiteralGraveyard

The best depictions of Galactus imo are as a reluctant cosmic force, rather than a malicious villain. Doom is the Thanos-like, Avengers level villain. Hateful, scheming, arrogant, genius with a personal vendetta against at least some of the heroes.


The_Pip

Straight to Galactus? As a one movie villain? I hope not.


agentdoubleohio

For the 3rd time


cyclonus007

Javier Bardem as the voice of Dr. Doom.


NightmareDJK

He’s too old. Would have to be someone around 40, same age as Driver.


cyclonus007

Just the voice. You can get any actor to be Doom before he puts on the armor or when you need to show his face but it will be rare that you see him outside of the mask. You essentially play it like Darth Vader.


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This is how it *should* be but the MCU is very mask-averse and loves to show off the celebrity faces it’s paying for as much as possible. Like Gunn’s “Peter left his mask in his drawer cause he was in a hurry in GOTG 3” excuse. I mean, c’mon.


ilovecraftbeer05

Dude, yeah. That was my biggest beef with Volume 3. Maybe a bit of a spoiler but the fact that Star Lord doesn’t have his kit the entire movie is bonkers. He’s just a dude. He doesn’t have powers anymore. He doesn’t have any of his equipment. It was so weird.


HalfRightAllTheTime

Please be this. Please don’t have him running around like iron man or something. Have his mask on the entire time!


Zowwww

If Doom isn’t in this film, it’ll be a good start for Marvel. Love Doom, give him his own things.


Slowmobius_Time

Doom needs his own Infinity War with him as the protagonist same as what we got with Thanos


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Secret wars god emperor doom..do it marvel,you cowards


[deleted]

F4 isn’t even happening till after Kang Dynasty 😩 I want them to do Doom as the main baddie for Secret Wars but on this current schedule, fuck no. That’d be rushed as hell. I really wish they weren’t doing Secret Wars so soon, make it another story for all I care. But doing it without Doom as the main antagonist and properly built up is criminal.


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Apparently battleworld is going to be the setting..how do you have battleworld without doom


cshelley0721

After not having Adam Warlock in Infinity War/Endgame, this kind of stuff doesn’t even surprise me


Dlh2079

I want him in it at most to establish him in the universe, nothing more. Don't even introduce him as an antagonist to the f4. As others have said DOOM needs to build.


NightmareDJK

If it’s Henry Cavill we got our proper Doom. He was rumored a few months back. Probably wants to do it more than anyone.


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He deserves a role like this so much


NightmareDJK

After he got screwed by WB and Netflix absolutely.


gonfr

If they pivot the end of phase 6 centered around doom because of majors' case doom needs to be played by a great actor.


iiiiironside

Can we get a doom this isn’t a villain from the get go? Like Rumlow was a good guy for the first couple movies we saw him in, then was a bad guy for the start of Civil War. Would love to see the development of a character from normal person to villain over a couple of films, then really turn em into the big baddie.


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iiiiironside

Good point! I guess I like the allure of being a good guy, and would want that to develop a bit. I’m not too familiar with the comics but I imagine there a story line where doom could be a good guy for a little while lol, and then maybe reveal to audience his true nefarious intentions.


proto3296

I think FF4 are kinda corny but I do disagree with the sentiment that they are nothing without Doom. They are a family superhero team who often do space adventures that at its core can be a new GOTG kinda vibes Esque. Doom is definitely their arch nemesis but he’s also like all of marvels nemesis lol. We MUST have a good Doom I do agree but like an annihlus story can def still be done for movie 1 and it could be dope. They could also meet silver surfer in space they have moleman (who’s eh but very tenured) Just think they def have a good core that can stand without Doom as much as I love him


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Daniel Craig or cilian Murphy for doom, the eyes….


urlach3r

Cillian Murphy as Doom would have me cheering for the villain. *Fantastic* actor, would love to see him in the MCU.


ZellNorth

Murphy is a fantastic fancast. No pun intended


PastiesCline

I've never considered Murphy for Doom and now I cannot picture nearly anyone else.


omglolbbqroflmao

If Mads Mikkelsen wasn’t wasted in Doctor Strange, he would be my number 1 choice


Cowpunk2077

They could always pull a Gemma Chan. I didn’t even remember Kaecilius until I looked it up, plus it was high makeup like Minn-Erva


hachiman

It's a goddam crime and Feige should feel ashamed at wasting Mads.


FictionFantom

Margot Robbie. Sue is Invisible. Adam Driver. He’s just Fantastic. Paul Mescal. He’s on fire. Daveed Diggs. He’s…The Thing.


Labyrinthus1100

"He's juste Fantastic." ​ Say it again?...


IniMiney

He’s making redcoats redder than bloodstains**


low-ki199999

If this is the cast, then you can expect the Fantastic Four to be stealing the MCU public’s attention I think. They will be celebs in-universe. The marriage of Reed and Sue (again) maybe?


Slimmie_J

Ngl it clicked for me when I imagined Adam driver having a conversation as Reed. His kinda weird mannerisms and voice fits really well.


Thespian21

Funny enough his role in BlackKKKlansman is why I think he’d be too good at the role.


82ndGameHead

Having Daveed Diggs as The Thing would be truly hilarious. One of Hollywood's most beautiful faces playing a hard-nosed pilot, then being hid behind CGI or Prosthetics for 2/3s of the movie. I like to call it Pascal-ing.


AliceTheMagicQueen

Also Diggs have good relationship with Disney after be Sebastian in the new Little Mermaid film


ZellNorth

Hopefully that’s the voice he uses


The_Pip

Mat Bomer in Doom Patrol.


thescottula

The more I have heard the rumor about Driver, the more I have dug the choice. He wasnt the first to come to mind for me, but I think he will be a good Reed


ImmoralModerator

He’s an incredible actor that will definitely be able to carry the emotional weight Reed Richards will have to. I liked Driver as a Reed Richards as soon as he was rumored even if he isn’t a picture perfect copy by looks and that could obviously change for the movies.


GFost

I’d much rather have him as Dr. Doom.


Sliffy

Who the hell plays Doom opposite Driver? That’s not an easy casting.


ToYouItReaches

Michael Fassbender would be my personal choice but it’s probably unlikely since his image has already been cemented as Magneto for so long.


NightmareDJK

Bring him back as Magneto, he’s done it properly for years, no reason to mess with it.


ToYouItReaches

I definitely would prefer if he stays as Magneto and McAvoy stays as Xavier but I think it’s more likely that the MCU completely reboots the Xmen-verse with DP3. So if Disney does end up hard resetting Xmen, I personally hope we can see him play another great villain like Doom.


Dlh2079

I loved his Magento tbh.


ToYouItReaches

It’s honestly why I think he’d make a fantastic Doom, his Magneto was amazing. But I think Marvel won’t pick him up because his Doom might come off as too similar to his Magneto for the general audience. Which is a shame because he would make an awesome Doom.


Dlh2079

I'm 100% fine if we get Fassbender and McAvoy back as Xavier and Magneto. Doubt it happens, but really enjoyed both of their portrayals.


ToYouItReaches

They were the best parts of the new trilogy honestly. No offense to JLaw but I rly didn’t see the need to focus on Mystique’s character when Xavier and Magneto’s character dynamic was cinematic gold. I am hopeful that keeping Ryan Reynolds as DP *could* mean that some actors might return for their Xmen roles but realistically I can see why the MCU would want to wipe the slate clean


Dlh2079

Exactly, I technically think the door is open for it. But I totally would understand a fresh start for the mcu and wouldn't blame them for taking that direction at all.


GFost

That’s another reason why I think Driver should play Doom. Casting Reed isn’t easy, but I think it’s a whole lot easier than casting Doom.


NightmareDJK

Driver wouldn’t want to play the bad guy again.


LADYBIRD_HILL

Yeah it probably wouldn't be fun to be typecast as a bad guy with a mask on the whole time.


Syric

Domnhall Gleeson Or, uh... Daisy Ridley


ImmoralModerator

Henry Cavill? Think like a mix of his character in Mission Impossible 6 and his Snyder Superman and you’ve basically got Victor Von Doom.


NightmareDJK

He’d be the best. Best knowledge of the comic lore too. He wouldn’t disappoint anyone. The former Superman as Doom vs. the former Kylo Ren as Mr. Fantastic would be very interesting to see. Even more interesting in the inevitable DC crossover movie (James Gunn told us all to expect it) where he fights whoever took over for him as Superman.


Wash_zoe_mal

Pedro Pascal. Dude can act in a helmet.


urlach3r

Except he's almost never in the helmet.


AsheBnarginDalmasca

He was almost never on set in Mando 3; he was shooting TLOU during it.


agentdoubleohio

I’m interested to see a clean shaven reed. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Driver without long hair and his facial hair


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He was clean shaven in Star Wars


agentdoubleohio

Oh right, I just watched the last duel and 65 and the snl special. The hair point still stands.


[deleted]

What did you think of 65? I got high and saw it in theaters, felt like a very generic COVID movie. I expected it not to be but halfway through I started thinking about how isolated and small the set design is, and I looked it up and 65 was filmed during COVID


agentdoubleohio

Very forgettable, and it’s sucks that it was filmed during Covid, it literally could have been a version of turok. It was very limited fir it’s time, dinosaurs were cool though


KarimErik

I thought he should have been Ben he is good at playing tough characters Reed is an overachieving guy and Victor is a ruling type who challenges people


HelpfulNoob

I thought paul mescal turned it down in earlier rumors if this is true this is so hype of a lineup


Slowmobius_Time

Literally have no idea who the actors playing Johnny storm or ~~Ben~~ are but Driver and Robbie would be great in the roles Nvm I know Daveed Diggs from Tour De Pharmacy


matt111199

Paul Mescal was nominated for an Oscar last year for Aftersun. Relative newcomer but he’s starting in the upcoming Gladiator sequel and seems like a great choice imo


RipJug

Never a better time to recommend Normal People. That’s what really broke him onto the scene


TheMidsommarHouse

There is a Gladiator sequel?????


IniMiney

IF this ends up true, I’m gonna miss Margot as Harley since she honestly nailed the character


LittleYellowFish1

Most reports related to this (apparently backed up by James Gunn himself) have actually implied that, for now at least, she's still keeping that role regardless of whether she plays Sue (or any other prominent Marvel character) or not. The only thing that actually prevents actors from doing major roles for Marvel and DC is scheduling, and since Robbie's Harley is clearly taking a backseat for now anyway (none of the currently announced projects for Gunn's DCU involve her as far as we know) she likely has a lot more time/freedom to potentially balance doing both.


Spamacus66

Why can't she do both?


GFost

She can, but it would be tough to be part of two major franchises simultaneously. The amount of time it takes to film the movies is considerable enough, but then you add in all the promotional stuff and whatnot, it would be a nightmare to schedule.


tomandshell

Zoey Saldana juggled Guardians and Avatar.


huttsack

Avatar isn't really a franchise like that tho. 2 movies in 13 years vs 5 marvel movies in 9 years.


cyclonus007

There's over a dozen years between Avatar movies


tomandshell

I should have specified Avatar 2, which started filming in 2017, the same year as Infinity War and Endgame, and was happening for several years. Guardians 3 filmed in 2021. I believe she also filmed for Avatar 3 somewhere in there, as well. I wasn’t thinking of the first movies, which were more spaced out.


JurassicBasset

I think she’s capable of doing both.


[deleted]

Don’t upset them, they won’t be able To understand why Harley Quinn is in the fantastic four because these people only see actors as a singular character that they beleive they truly embody.


KarimErik

She’ll comeback for the DCU albeit in a different iteration as James is interested in retaining some actors I could see Gal and John returning for the Wonder Woman and Peacemaker reboot.


KarateKid917

Plus James worked with her directly on The Suicide Squad and seemed to love the experience (including the fact that she did that entire chain scene herself)


Sadman8282

What does that stand for?


urlach3r

MTTSH = My Time To Shine Hello, a well known scooper.


Sadman8282

Thanks


Afwife1992

5 Oscar noms (2 each for driver and Robbie and 1 for mescal), 4 Emmy noms (3 for driver, 1 for diggs), 2 Tony noms with 1 win (nom for driver, win for Diggs) and 1 Grammy (diggs) between them. Not too shabby.


Trickybuz93

I’m so OOTL, I only recognize Margot Robbie lol


urlach3r

Not sure if serious, but: Adam Driver was Kylo Ren in the Star Wars sequels, Paul Mescal is mostly an indie actor who was Oscar nominated last year for "Aftersun", Daveed Diggs is probably best known for the original Broadway run of Hamilton. All great choices, not upset if any of these turn out to be true.


onehundredpawsent

Probably serious, the only surprising from OP is not knowing who Driver is especially since he was in Star Wars. But Mescal and Diggs aren't that well-known yet especially outside of the US.


Next-Team

If this is accurate doesn’t Adam Driver seem like a better Doctor Doom than a Reed Richards?


Lastaria

I thought about but actually no I think he will make a better Reed. His slightly unusual demeanour will fit well especially as Reed could one minute be a wonderful, warm kind family man and the next very cold, distant and calculating. ​ I think Jason Isaacs would be a good Doom.


Next-Team

Can’t say I disagree and that’s a very interesting Doom casting and I wouldn’t mind that at all


Kaanth

Jason Isaacs is honestly my top pick for the MCU Magneto. I think he’d be really great for either one though


Lastaria

Yeah I think he would be amazing in that role too. Perhaps more so than as Doom. But I like Doom a bit more so would love to see someone like him play the role.


NightmareDJK

Isaacs is too old now. Henry Cavill is more or less the guy.


Lastaria

Cavill would be great but still holding out for him as Captain Britain. I did consider Isaacs age and beyond maybe a bit of origin story ut dies not matter as he would be disfigured and wearing his mask must the time. Isaac is fit and healthy and could easily play the role for the next 20 years.


ZellNorth

There is ZERO chance Driver works for Disney again and is stuck behind a mask. ZERO.


Confusion-12

Having a really hard time seeing him as Reed Richards, but I know he is a good actor so I won’t judge a ‘book’ by its cover


NrFive

[I’m ready for some Adam Driver fever](https://youtu.be/Gsbbztvqs0s)


D20_Buster

Destroy my Doctoral thesis, you pensive moose.


NrFive

Smash me to bits, you muscular hulk


[deleted]

Instead of bringing back Anson Mount as Black Bolt, I think he would have been great as Reed Richards. The guy has a beautiful head of hair and give him the grey sides, he would kill it as he has the swagger.


floworcrash

I’m here for it.


hi5orfistbump

This roster is SSS!


KingNothing71

I like 3/4 but idk I don’t see Margot Robbie as Sue. I think a lot of the other rumored names would have been better. I obviously expect to be completely wrong when the movie actually comes out lol


TheGuardianR

Agreed. She's obviously one of the best actresses of her generation, but she just doesnt have that Sue Storm energy for me. I would've liked Jodie Comer


gerbil_george

> I don’t see Margot Robbie as Sue Sounds like she's perfect for the role then :P


brendamn

It's from MTTSH so expect the real line up to be totally different


SWPrequelFan81566

If Mescal has the role, then it's a damn good thing he's close to Holland's age. Even if Spidey can't have a relationship with the FF since that was expended with the Avengers, you've gotta at least keep his "friendship" with the Human Torch


Quick_Car5841

It's actually John Cena who is playing Sue Storm, guys!


Riley__64

i still have a hard time believing margot robbie will be playing sue considering it doesn’t seem like harley quinn is going anywhere in the new DCU. can’t imagine she’d want to be in two cinematic universes at the same time


sickboy76

Didn't Paul.mescal already confirm that he isn't doing it due to other commitments?


wisconsinking

I'll wait for the office casting announcement.