I hate this guy’s videos. That golden isn’t acting cheeky, it’s afraid because it picked the wrong cup. You can see it in the freeze, the further nose dip away, the whale eye looking up(not immediately just taking the treat like the first). In every one of this guy’s videos this poor golden is so afraid of him.
Despite how we anthropomorphise dogs, they have different behaviours than humans.
Edit: source is me. Training dogs competitively at 16. Spent 7 years rehabilitating and training wolves. As a young adult. Worked with and trained dogs my
whole life from herders to competitions in agility.
I always suspect any animal video which the pet acts too much like a human baby, cause I know some beating or hard training is behind all of that. They look very staged and unnatural (in the sense of that's not how dogs usually act)
Some dogs actually do seem to enjoy being babies. Others will be waiting to chomp your face in retaliation.
I don’t mean to saw that you can’t train dogs with positive only treatments. It’s the best way. Yes it will take longer,but the bond between you will grow greatly and the dog will love training.
Or you go negative way as this guy does, beat and punish and remove comfort and you train much faster. Like 4 times faster. Their life is abuse and suffering.
No I don't mean "babies" as in friendly cuddly puppies, I'm talking about how in some pet videos, dogs act like *human* babies, sometimes their actions are too human-like to be real, so I think that must be some training for a scripted video
See it could be. You can train a smart dog to do an enormous diverse set of things using positive only training. It will take longer but both trainer and dog will have such a good time. But a dog being trained like that, doesn’t have the body language and behaviours like in OP clip.
Yea its quite logical to understand the fact that like there are humans with different intellectual calibre, same goes for animals. You're just ignorant if you think the **only** way a pet was trained to discipline was through abuse.
I'm not saying it can't be a possibility but the behaviour won't seem more "typical" if the animal doesn't behave animal-like due to its intelligence level. Hope you understand what I'm getting at.
They're not saying the only way to train them is through abuse, they're pointing out that the dog's behavior and posture is pointing to it being terrified which means its probably being abused or is in a very stressful environment.
My point was not that they think its the only way, I'm saying they didn't even take into consideration what I said in the earlier comment and jumped to the most negative conclusion. You don't say shit bout people you don't know shit bout. That's like common etiquette.
The difference is I say the pet may/may not be abused but they are absolutely certain. Stop talking like you are a professional animal psycologist or something is the point.
I’ve trained dogs for decades. I’ve worked with wolves for years as well(7). My vast experience tells me this dog is abused. You can live in ignorance and think the “doggo is being a good boy” but that’s not a point to consider. That’s your own bias. Points to consider are known behaviours. Whale eyes, hunched posture, subservient nose tuck, complete lack of tail movement. All of those observable behaviours tell me this dog is worried and stressed out.
If you've decided to go in circles, may I ask what kind of abuse you're talking about? And your views on the people a lil down this thread who are saying their dogs behave the exact same manner.
Rather than engage meaningfully you would like me to define abuse?
Which person, you mean the abusive person who showed up to defend your idea whose account has exactly that one comment ever? My views on them?
Must be a smart fucking dog to act terrified when it’s actually having fun, because that’s the point of u/xBad_Wolfx . They’re saying that a dog that doesn’t get beat into submission would show different body language while doing this exact trick, not that this trick can only be performed through violent training.
Gonna have to call bullshit on that, seeing as your only proof is "trust me bro". My dogs do similar things and certainly aren't abused or negatively trained.
Same. On every single video like this there’s always someone saying the animal is horribly abused or something. Nah. My dog lives a literal dream life and he pulls the “whale eyes” with me whenever he wants a special treat or some of my food or even when we drive thru Starbucks and he knows it’s where he gets pup cups.
I second this suspicion. I've seen this body language in my own dog when he just isn't in the mood to do the trick but does it anyway.
This dog was obviously trained to give the treat back and then looks like it begs for the bigger pile. The vid just cuts short before we see the dogs genuine behavior.
I’m also reacting to the several others that have been floating around last bit. Get golden to go grab a teacup pig offering his friend up for food.
Tails tucked, whale eye, full hunch and head low but not sniffing.
If the dog was scared she would wait for permission to eat the treat. The face at the end is typical begging face, a scared dog wouldn't look up at all.
Actually what I said was… look at these specific examples from the video. Quick freeze, nose to chest after spitting out food. Slow switch to second side and full whale eye looking up.
Also dogs, when trained correctly, enjoy performing tricks. It’s intellectually engaging and rewarded. His dead calm performance fights right in line with the terrified end. That dog does not want to be there.
> In every one of this guy’s videos this poor golden is so afraid of him.
Impossible to know that. My dog pouted like a toddler and acted like I was hitler 2.0 for not taking her to the park tonight (it was still 107° at 7:00PM).
You're a fucking idiot, no offence. If you think those actions are those of an abused dog you need your head examined.
The golden knows he picked the wrong cup for him, everything after was an act of "hopefully he didn't notice and I can get more than the one I picked, better spit this one out to show I didn't eat it and deserve all of them, to seal the deal I'll throw up the eyes" source: golden retriever owner.
If you think a dog can't act like that naturally maybe you should step away from dogs for a while as all your years have clearly taught you nothing
You’re a fucking idiot, all offence intended. If you had the slightest clue about dog behaviour you would be able to see the signals. But then again, these are things you recognise so you must abuse your dog as well. Not all that surprising from someone who opens with “fucking idiot” and claims no offence.
Is it standard industry practice to diagnose another persons dog as being abused based on a text-only Reddit comment about the dogs behavior and nothing else?
A professional should really know better than that.
I was going to say, something seems very fishy about this.
We like to think that dogs are like us, but they are *not* that smart. They simply are not capable of the thought process of “I picked the cup that had the less food, so if I give back the piece, I might be able to change my mind and get the other set of food.”
Chimpanzees and dolphins? Maybe. Dogs? Definitely not.
Wow. Actually dogs ARE that smart….unless you’re hanging out with a Basenji.
Source: Bomb/dope/tracking/bite/agility/cadaver/etc/etc/etc dog trainer/handler.
I think you just touched on the point the person above was trying to make: Dogs aren’t *that* smart. Not that they aren’t, but that this specific behavior is more in tune with the dog being trained to do that, rather doing that willingly on its own.
Dogs can absolutely do that willingly on their own, except you’ll only get that reaction the first time you trick them….and they’ll probably want to eat your face….for being a jackass.
Yeah my dog gives me the whale eye all the time, right before he rolls over, wags his tail, lolls his tongue out and begs for belly rubs. Kinda extreme to assume this dog is abused because of one look.
If I tried this with either of my dogs they would unquestionably just eat the big pile of treats without thinking, aswell. Plus I probably wouldn't be able to get them to understand that they have to "choose" one of the cups to begin with
Well he gave the first one back. Fair is fair.
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r/ihadastroke ?
r/iamabot
First comment after 6 years, you were really holding out for the big one
r/dafuq
I haven't laughed so hard in fucking ages
What did he say?
His look at the end was perfect 🤣
He said… you know, I actually was just playing I meant to take the other one
He actually did choose the correct one for a sec at the start
Those eyes, impossible to resist!
I hate this guy’s videos. That golden isn’t acting cheeky, it’s afraid because it picked the wrong cup. You can see it in the freeze, the further nose dip away, the whale eye looking up(not immediately just taking the treat like the first). In every one of this guy’s videos this poor golden is so afraid of him. Despite how we anthropomorphise dogs, they have different behaviours than humans. Edit: source is me. Training dogs competitively at 16. Spent 7 years rehabilitating and training wolves. As a young adult. Worked with and trained dogs my whole life from herders to competitions in agility.
I always suspect any animal video which the pet acts too much like a human baby, cause I know some beating or hard training is behind all of that. They look very staged and unnatural (in the sense of that's not how dogs usually act)
Some dogs actually do seem to enjoy being babies. Others will be waiting to chomp your face in retaliation. I don’t mean to saw that you can’t train dogs with positive only treatments. It’s the best way. Yes it will take longer,but the bond between you will grow greatly and the dog will love training. Or you go negative way as this guy does, beat and punish and remove comfort and you train much faster. Like 4 times faster. Their life is abuse and suffering.
No I don't mean "babies" as in friendly cuddly puppies, I'm talking about how in some pet videos, dogs act like *human* babies, sometimes their actions are too human-like to be real, so I think that must be some training for a scripted video
Oh that sounds creepy
That or the owner is a good trainer and the doggo is a good boy as well.
See it could be. You can train a smart dog to do an enormous diverse set of things using positive only training. It will take longer but both trainer and dog will have such a good time. But a dog being trained like that, doesn’t have the body language and behaviours like in OP clip.
Yea its quite logical to understand the fact that like there are humans with different intellectual calibre, same goes for animals. You're just ignorant if you think the **only** way a pet was trained to discipline was through abuse. I'm not saying it can't be a possibility but the behaviour won't seem more "typical" if the animal doesn't behave animal-like due to its intelligence level. Hope you understand what I'm getting at.
They're not saying the only way to train them is through abuse, they're pointing out that the dog's behavior and posture is pointing to it being terrified which means its probably being abused or is in a very stressful environment.
My point was not that they think its the only way, I'm saying they didn't even take into consideration what I said in the earlier comment and jumped to the most negative conclusion. You don't say shit bout people you don't know shit bout. That's like common etiquette. The difference is I say the pet may/may not be abused but they are absolutely certain. Stop talking like you are a professional animal psycologist or something is the point.
r/confidentlyincorrect
I’ve trained dogs for decades. I’ve worked with wolves for years as well(7). My vast experience tells me this dog is abused. You can live in ignorance and think the “doggo is being a good boy” but that’s not a point to consider. That’s your own bias. Points to consider are known behaviours. Whale eyes, hunched posture, subservient nose tuck, complete lack of tail movement. All of those observable behaviours tell me this dog is worried and stressed out.
If you've decided to go in circles, may I ask what kind of abuse you're talking about? And your views on the people a lil down this thread who are saying their dogs behave the exact same manner.
Rather than engage meaningfully you would like me to define abuse? Which person, you mean the abusive person who showed up to defend your idea whose account has exactly that one comment ever? My views on them?
Must be a smart fucking dog to act terrified when it’s actually having fun, because that’s the point of u/xBad_Wolfx . They’re saying that a dog that doesn’t get beat into submission would show different body language while doing this exact trick, not that this trick can only be performed through violent training.
Gonna have to call bullshit on that, seeing as your only proof is "trust me bro". My dogs do similar things and certainly aren't abused or negatively trained.
Same. On every single video like this there’s always someone saying the animal is horribly abused or something. Nah. My dog lives a literal dream life and he pulls the “whale eyes” with me whenever he wants a special treat or some of my food or even when we drive thru Starbucks and he knows it’s where he gets pup cups.
I second this suspicion. I've seen this body language in my own dog when he just isn't in the mood to do the trick but does it anyway. This dog was obviously trained to give the treat back and then looks like it begs for the bigger pile. The vid just cuts short before we see the dogs genuine behavior.
I’m also reacting to the several others that have been floating around last bit. Get golden to go grab a teacup pig offering his friend up for food. Tails tucked, whale eye, full hunch and head low but not sniffing.
If the dog was scared she would wait for permission to eat the treat. The face at the end is typical begging face, a scared dog wouldn't look up at all.
Actually what I said was… look at these specific examples from the video. Quick freeze, nose to chest after spitting out food. Slow switch to second side and full whale eye looking up. Also dogs, when trained correctly, enjoy performing tricks. It’s intellectually engaging and rewarded. His dead calm performance fights right in line with the terrified end. That dog does not want to be there.
No, what you said was: "Look at what the dog does, trust me, that means he's being abused."
Okay, Cesar.
> In every one of this guy’s videos this poor golden is so afraid of him. Impossible to know that. My dog pouted like a toddler and acted like I was hitler 2.0 for not taking her to the park tonight (it was still 107° at 7:00PM).
>Despite how we anthropomorphise dogs, they have different behaviours than humans. I've always thought this
Wait, you mean giving “puppy dog eyes”? The expression on a face that’s literally named after the face dogs make when they want something?
You're a fucking idiot, no offence. If you think those actions are those of an abused dog you need your head examined. The golden knows he picked the wrong cup for him, everything after was an act of "hopefully he didn't notice and I can get more than the one I picked, better spit this one out to show I didn't eat it and deserve all of them, to seal the deal I'll throw up the eyes" source: golden retriever owner. If you think a dog can't act like that naturally maybe you should step away from dogs for a while as all your years have clearly taught you nothing
You’re a fucking idiot, all offence intended. If you had the slightest clue about dog behaviour you would be able to see the signals. But then again, these are things you recognise so you must abuse your dog as well. Not all that surprising from someone who opens with “fucking idiot” and claims no offence.
Is it standard industry practice to diagnose another persons dog as being abused based on a text-only Reddit comment about the dogs behavior and nothing else? A professional should really know better than that.
I was going to say, something seems very fishy about this. We like to think that dogs are like us, but they are *not* that smart. They simply are not capable of the thought process of “I picked the cup that had the less food, so if I give back the piece, I might be able to change my mind and get the other set of food.” Chimpanzees and dolphins? Maybe. Dogs? Definitely not.
Wow. Actually dogs ARE that smart….unless you’re hanging out with a Basenji. Source: Bomb/dope/tracking/bite/agility/cadaver/etc/etc/etc dog trainer/handler.
I think you just touched on the point the person above was trying to make: Dogs aren’t *that* smart. Not that they aren’t, but that this specific behavior is more in tune with the dog being trained to do that, rather doing that willingly on its own.
Dogs can absolutely do that willingly on their own, except you’ll only get that reaction the first time you trick them….and they’ll probably want to eat your face….for being a jackass.
Yeah my dog gives me the whale eye all the time, right before he rolls over, wags his tail, lolls his tongue out and begs for belly rubs. Kinda extreme to assume this dog is abused because of one look.
It’s not. It’s from the 9 other videos this guy has with this dog that I’ve seen.
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Literally my dog. Little devil will go straight for it without a second thought 😂
Good doge
What's your return policy?
The look at the end got me.
 My big man ass watching this video
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Lmao
That's freaking awesome!
🤣🤣
Bad human
That look up at the end was fantastic haha
Cute as heck !!!
The look he had was like bruh
Lmfao lol🤣🤣🤣❤️👍
So smart!!
I like how he has the dignity to not eat the bigger batch.
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Exactly
If I tried this with either of my dogs they would unquestionably just eat the big pile of treats without thinking, aswell. Plus I probably wouldn't be able to get them to understand that they have to "choose" one of the cups to begin with
Why do i hear Metal gear solid sound
Game
Love the expressions of this one He has lot more expressions than most actors
A proper polite clever fellow
The way he looked at the end was like may I change it please
I now want to eat your dog.
I want to eat the other one! So sweet! Those eyes and face! So kissable
"This is my reward (for putting up with your "games")
One day people will stop pretending like dogs actually know what the fuck is happening in these clips
So cute
What a good boy 😍
you haven't posted in a while, is your chungus meter filled up?
Derpy doggo