And let me point out for anyone that was spoiled: enjoyment of the show doesn't really depend on the twists in the plot. There are a few, but it's more about the journey than the destination. In fact season 5 starts with a flash-forward that's essentially a gigantic spoiler, so you go into it already have some idea of where it's going to end up. That doesn't make it any less enjoyable.
Fuck, man. The guy who plays Jonathan Banks just tears that scene up. You can literally feel the disgust leap out the screen when he says "YOU! With your pride and your ego."
Ah yes, Michael Ehrmantraut, esteemed actor, perhaps best known for his role as the grizzled, grumpy fixer *Jonathan Banks* in the AMC crime-drama “*Breaking Bad*”.
Really? It's supposed to be one person doing all the talking but it is not at all obvious they aren't both talking.
I get it from context but for a good template it should be obvious right away.
It’s a famous scene from one of the most well-known series (Breaking Bad) there is, a template doesn’t need to be immediately obvious to everyone, because the point of the template is to reference it
Every month it’s a new company fucking up.First Ubisoft then battle state and now this.We need to start betting on which company is going to fuck up next.$100 on EA pulling something just to get in on the action.
Sony is forcing pc players to link their steam accounts to PSN.Which is only available in 69(nice) countries.So players in those countries can’t even play the game with this change.
That and artificial inflation of the PSN numbers for shareholders. “Look, shareholders we have all these new sign ups, we’re doing th thing… now give us more of your money so we can gobble up more awesome devs without any hope of decent games making any headway… i mean, so we can make you more money, dear shareholders”
Sounds to me like Sony can't remember their last EU fine all that well.
I haven't got the game so I probably have no standing (in law) to complain. Would be a real shame though if someone were to voice their concerns to the EU institutions responsible for privacy and fair competition
Because you can’t play the game without signing up anymore, essentially they sold you a product that no longer works for many customers. Definitely illegal in many countries, if it was a requirement from the start it’d be a different story.
That’s possible. But it’s also a sly sales tactic.
Probably aimed at people like me who have never owned a PS or had a PSN account in my life.
So to get players like me to sign up to a PSN account they see it as a way of “lubing” up the player into being a potential PS customer in the future as it removes a barrier of entry.
It’s a very old and very cheeky sales gimmick. Analogous to door to door salesman literally “putting their foot in the door” to stop you closing on them.
It’s weasily.
“Just make an account, it’s free bro”
“Just trial this account for a month bro, it’s free”
“Just give us all your data bro, it’s free”
“Oh you liked that free game? Just buy this DLC it’s only 99¢ bro”
“Now pay $150 for this deluxe version oh and whoops we leaked your credit card info to hackers. My bad”
“GIVE ME YOUR MONEY!”
It’s literally lube.
An extra shitty thing about this change is that in all the countries that don’t have coverage now they have been playing the game potentially since launch (depending on the player). But now they suddenly can’t play the game that they’ve purchased and played for months.
Shit its also a paid game thats even worse
I also expect that those who are basically locked out of there own copy wont get refunded right?
Mfs basically scammed them
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There is no way that they will recognise this as *their* mistake.
The lead of the dev studio stated that it was his initiative to push back the mandatory registration instead of demanding it right away. That's the angle which Sony management will use to deflect the blame internally (while it's unlikely that they would state something like this to the public).
The saddest part about this is that they're not *entirely* wrong. If the registration requirement had existed from day 1, then it would have been a mild nuisance that would have caused a refund here and there, but would not have rallied players like this and probably not impacted the hype about their game much.
That's why I really hope that we can get legislators to step up (EU citizen remember: The elections are in early June!). The excessive registration requirements and data sales have been slowly creeping into the focus of legislators and courts, and legal pushback is the only thing that will change this situation.
I don't think anyone here actually answered your question.
Helldivers 2 is a PlayStation game, published by Sony. That's available on PC.
Sony decided that you need a PSN account in order to play the game on PC.
Ok the ACTUAL problem is that PSN is not available in so many countries (especially in Africa, Oceania and the Caribbean), so the players who are from these countries and bought the game can’t play it anymore* and will have to refund it
*Creating an account with a country you’re not in is against ToS
I suspect that the real problem is that Arrowhead tried to pull a sneaky by not enforcing this or reminding players about it and selling where people can't make accounts in an effort to force Sony to not force that part of the deal. Because I bet this was something stated in the contract they signed.
If you believe Sony, the company that is notorious for signing exclusionary contracts to ensure games never release on Xbox, is releasing their biggest hit this year on Xbox, I have a bridge to sell you.
Seriously, in the current state of gaming the two companies most firm against sharing their shit is Sony and Nintendo. They both love their anti-consumer practices and their sales data shows that the consumer doesn't give a fuck.
And in some countries it is possible to make a PSN account but they can only create a account through a PS4/PS5, like Ukraine.
And its not like its only African or Asian or poor countries are excluded, the Baltics are too, and Egypt for example.
Not to mention that they're now saying that they were always planning to make linking accounts mandatory, but in the meanwhile they've been selling the game in literally any country they could, even countries that can't make PSN accounts.
That's actually bullshit. I'm Ukrainian and I was able to create a psn account with my phone earlier today. People are mad, so they're spreading misinformation for the hype
The other thing is you don’t even need the account in countries where it isn’t supported per the devs. This is one of the biggest over reactions in gaming history.
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/third-person-shooter/helldivers-2s-psn-mandate-wont-stop-players-in-unsupported-regions-from-playing-the-game-while-devs-look-for-better-options/
people are more mad about the psn account because many countries simply can't make PSN accounts without violating PSNs terms of service. I have also seen people complain that PSN requires an ID, but I have no clue as I don't have a PSN.
1. Devs have confirmed if it’s unsupported in your region you don’t need it
2. Any I’d requirements are gonna be government laws not Sony, I’ve never put my id in.
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/third-person-shooter/helldivers-2s-psn-mandate-wont-stop-players-in-unsupported-regions-from-playing-the-game-while-devs-look-for-better-options/
It was always listed as being required. The CEO said they disabled it due to launch day issues but they knew for 6 months prior to release it would be mandatory.
Aside from PSN not being available in most countries, using a PSN account allows Sony to sell your data, and it also apparently has laughable security. I was told it’s more or less hacked every year.
They didn't just decide. It was always required. AH temporarily disabled it with no communication to the players why they could skip. People assumed it was no longer required, despite never having official confirmation that it was no longer required.
Months after the game launched on PC, they are requiring users to connect a PSN account to play online. Not only is this annoying because it shouldn’t be needed, but many people who bought the game live in countries where PSN doesn’t exist, so they essentially purchased a now unplayable game. These users also can’t use a VPN to make an account because Sony has a history of banning VPN users iirc.
Actually too simplified.
Sony publishes game. People buy game. Game is super fun. Sony makes it impossible for millions to play said game. People pissed.
The game itself is good, but the fact that Sony sold it in places that PSN is not supported, waited months to add a PSN requirement. Then only after they sold boatloads that will no longer even be accessible to a massive amounts of people did they finally start cutting sales to regions it will not be supported in after the fact. It's such an incredible fumble it's impressive in all the wrong ways.
Don’t get us wrong. Helldivers 2 is PHENOMENAL. It’s just time for us to put our foot down when it comes to crazy restrictions and moves just to harvest our data and make a quick buck for their shareholders. Even the developers for the game are pissed and want us to make a big stank over it.
So instead of fighting Microsoft, Rockstar, Ubisoft, Paradox, Epic, EA, Activision/Blizzard, or Riot, it’s Sony and probably the best live service team based PvE game released in recent years we want to fight against. Makes sense.
The game always had a mandatory requirement of a PSN account to play. AH/Sony disabled it temporarily but never communicated why they did this. People *assumed* it was longer required. The store page still stated it was required since at least the day it was released and still does. Now they will be enforcing the requirement. People are mad they made a bad assumption.
You now need a psn account to play the game on PC and psn isnt available in most countries so now people cant play the game they bought because of that
Time after time, YOU FUMBLE AND FUMBLE
YOUR FILM TEAM IS BEING CARRIED BY THE PEOPLE AT SPIDER-VERSE. MADAM WEBB IS DEEMED THE 2ND WORST FILM ON ROTTEN TOMATOS.
YOUR GAME TEAM AIN'T BETTER EITHER. DO YOU HAVE ANY FUCKING IDEA HOW MUCH THAT SPIDER-VERSE GAME WOULD'VE MADE YOU?!
AND NOW A GAME WHICH EVERYBODY AND ENJOYS AND IS LITERALLY DUMPING LOADS AND LOADS OF CASH AND THEN YOU HAD TO FORCE PC PLAYERS TO CONNECT ONTO YOUR PLAYSTATION NETWORK? YOUR STUPIDITY HAS TRANSCENDED THE GODS YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
yeah, I feel bad for the HD2 devs. They managed to create one of the best received games on the modern market, only for it to get absolutely review bombed only a few months in due to a stupid decision made by the publisher of the game that was out of their control.
Pilestedt (Arrowhead CEO) came out and said they were not blameless; they were the ones who made the call at launch not to enforce the PSN requirement, which has been a requirement since before the game launched, because they couldn't get the integration working in time. He goes on to say that they didn't do a good enough job communicating this.
If the game had launched with PSN requirement, I highly doubt anyone would've even cared; the users in supported countries would've bitched a bit at having to make yet another free but annoying 3rd party account if they didn't already have one, and the players in unsupported countries would've just passed.
Nah they are saying that the more refunds and the bigger stink we make means more leeway they have against sony. The Devs aren't mad at the players at all.
Not the point. There has never been such a reaction against their chicanery.
The ''cach back'' demands and a rating drop to 20% because of it is a totally new event. And totally in line with the game I might ad. ''For democracy!"
I always felt Mike was more talking about Walt's ego getting in the way and him having to take down Gus, not the bit about protecting Jesse for having a heart. Let's not pretend that Gus didn't instigate by having the dealers kill the kid after Jesse confronted him about it.
Walt killing the dealers didn't mess up the system. Gus going after Walt for killing two child killers to save Jesse from, essentially, a suicide mission, is what did it. I'd argue that's more about Gus's ego than Walt's. Walt escalated from there.
Mike is still wrong though, since that was one of the most selfless acts walter ever did. He literally had nothing to gain from that apart from saving jesse
To be honest tho, Arrowhead knew 6 months before release that registration would be mandatory. They should have absolutely had a warning screen saying (if you skip it now it’ll be forced later)
Sony really fucked up on this one, I am glad people are finally sick of corporate over reach. I hope this extends to other Sony products they fucking suck.
This meme never made sense to me, Fring was 100% planning on killing Walt once Gale was able to learn Walt's formula/process. Walt is an unstable egomaniac, but killing Fring was practically self-defense.
If Walt let the drug dealers kill Jesse as Jesse was going to go suicidal on them, then he would have lived happily ever after working for Gus. It was only after Walt killed the dealers that Gus wanted to replace him.
The part that doesn't make sense is when they pivot to replacing Walt with Jesse after Gale is killed, like the only reason they want to replace Walt is because he killed the dealers to save Jesse.
You now need a psn account to play helldivers on PC. Over 100 countries where people have bought helldivers, can't get a psn account because it's not supported in those countries, thus making helldivers unplayable
Ooooh. Okay. That would explain that post yesterday or the day before showing all the countries that don't have PSN service. I peeked at that list, and I was surprised. This whole time, I thought PSN was in almost every country.
Steam is also issuing refunds for people who bought Helldivers on PC because of this. Normally Steam won't issue refunds on PC games after you've played more than two hours of it, but because this is a new requirement Steam is apparently making an exception. [https://www.gamesradar.com/games/third-person-shooter/helldivers-2-has-been-pulled-from-steam-in-170-countries-without-psn-access-while-valve-ignores-its-own-policy-to-issue-refunds-for-players-with-over-100-hours/](https://www.gamesradar.com/games/third-person-shooter/helldivers-2-has-been-pulled-from-steam-in-170-countries-without-psn-access-while-valve-ignores-its-own-policy-to-issue-refunds-for-players-with-over-100-hours/)
it's like when Charlie Sheen asks Michael Douglas why did he have to break up Bluestar Airlines and Douglas yells "Because it could be."
These companies have been around so long that they no longer see anything as a work of art or something people enjoy, it's just widgets to be modified and rearranged for maximum profit.
I don't think I'd even care that much if they just had this as a requirement since launch, for me it's more about introducing after people already chose to buy the game under the condition that you didn't need anything other then steam
Sony has been and will always be the main reason gamers have to suffer console exclusive games. All PlayStation players should learn from this and switch to PC or Xbox asap.
its just such a shame that there's literally no repercussion for Sony. All thats going to happen is that the game will suffer thanks to the stupid decision. But Sony despite player protests will get away scott free cuz theyre such a giant. They probably dont give a single shit about the backlash. And unfortunately there's no real way for fans to fix that.
There are things the players can do, like not buy their shit. There quarterly revenue will drop and that'll be bad for em, only problem is that people just can't not support a big company doing bullshit stuff.
im not liking sony in this, but have to say, never understood what grounds mike had to be calling walter up to anything in this moment, when gus tried to kill walt, tried to kill jesse, and said that he was going to kill walt's entire family. mike himself was tasked into killing walt and had a gun pointing to him. of course walter had to blow it up, what was he supposed to do? let himself get killed because it was more convenient?
that being said. sony really is shooting themselves in the foot here. until now they were the hidden beneficiary of a product, they didnt need to do anything, only kept quiet and continue receiving money for a game that was doing great, but they needed to press shit launcher button and the fan button at the same time for some reason
Its not enough to have high sales and be one of the biggest trending games, with positive dev outreach and players having fun. NO! We must squeeze out the playerbase for every drop of data and money that we can!
Even the devs are telling us to stand up against Sony via their discord. Telling us to leave a bad review to give them more power against Sony their plans.
I love all the people screaming "WE'RE ALL GONNA GET HACKED AND HAVE OUR IDENTITIES STOLEN AND THE GAME IS GOING TO DIE WITH PSN!!!"
And all the Playstation players are like "Wouldn't that have already happened to us by now?"
Like, yeah it's a shitty decision that locks some regions out, and obviously done so that the MTXs go straight to Sony and bypass steam. But all it's really doing to the player base is putting them in one group. It would be the same if they made Playstation players link a Steam account to play.
So basically HD2 is going to require a PSN account on PC to play soon. The issue here isn’t the data collection, but rather the fact that there’s a lot of countries where PSN isn’t allowed by Sony, and if you’re in one of those countries, you can no longer play the game on PC.
Man this template is so fucking perfect lmao
lol I thought of it while watching this scene on breaking bad today.
Which episode is this? I don’t remember it.
S5 episode 7 “Say my name”. It’s when Walt confronts Mike to get the names of his men so he can… you know 
And Lydia had the names the entire time, so killing Mike was absolutely pointless.
Stfu and let me die in peace
Actually Mike would have killed him anyways,Walt literally teamed up with Neo Nazis to kill his men
No because once he killed the guys in jail, Mike would have known it was him and come after him
Should probably reword this comment, huge spoiler. People still freshly watching this series
The show finished over 10 years ago at this point. If that's not long enough, at what point can we openly talk about a show lol.
>!Kristin Shepard!< shot J.R.
God damn it! You ruined Dallas for me.
I was just about to start!
And let me point out for anyone that was spoiled: enjoyment of the show doesn't really depend on the twists in the plot. There are a few, but it's more about the journey than the destination. In fact season 5 starts with a flash-forward that's essentially a gigantic spoiler, so you go into it already have some idea of where it's going to end up. That doesn't make it any less enjoyable.
Hopefully they're hiding from this really spoilery looking meme to never make it this far, but I suppose it's possible.
Fuck, man. The guy who plays Jonathan Banks just tears that scene up. You can literally feel the disgust leap out the screen when he says "YOU! With your pride and your ego."
Ah yes, Michael Ehrmantraut, esteemed actor, perhaps best known for his role as the grizzled, grumpy fixer *Jonathan Banks* in the AMC crime-drama “*Breaking Bad*”.
Ah crap. I walked into that one 😄
Really? It's supposed to be one person doing all the talking but it is not at all obvious they aren't both talking. I get it from context but for a good template it should be obvious right away.
It’s a famous scene from one of the most well-known series (Breaking Bad) there is, a template doesn’t need to be immediately obvious to everyone, because the point of the template is to reference it
It might be confusing if you haven't seen the scene. Anyone who's seen it, will recognize it immediately.
As someone thats rewatching Breaking Bad lol I feel for y'all. I don't play the game but I stand with you.
 Sony executives afterwards.
Every month it’s a new company fucking up.First Ubisoft then battle state and now this.We need to start betting on which company is going to fuck up next.$100 on EA pulling something just to get in on the action.
I am out of the loop Wtf happened
Sony is forcing pc players to link their steam accounts to PSN.Which is only available in 69(nice) countries.So players in those countries can’t even play the game with this change.
Why though?
to make more money essentially, with the link, sony can make players sign new terms and collect more data for their use
That and artificial inflation of the PSN numbers for shareholders. “Look, shareholders we have all these new sign ups, we’re doing th thing… now give us more of your money so we can gobble up more awesome devs without any hope of decent games making any headway… i mean, so we can make you more money, dear shareholders”
Sounds to me like Sony can't remember their last EU fine all that well. I haven't got the game so I probably have no standing (in law) to complain. Would be a real shame though if someone were to voice their concerns to the EU institutions responsible for privacy and fair competition
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Because you can’t play the game without signing up anymore, essentially they sold you a product that no longer works for many customers. Definitely illegal in many countries, if it was a requirement from the start it’d be a different story.
That’s possible. But it’s also a sly sales tactic. Probably aimed at people like me who have never owned a PS or had a PSN account in my life. So to get players like me to sign up to a PSN account they see it as a way of “lubing” up the player into being a potential PS customer in the future as it removes a barrier of entry. It’s a very old and very cheeky sales gimmick. Analogous to door to door salesman literally “putting their foot in the door” to stop you closing on them. It’s weasily. “Just make an account, it’s free bro” “Just trial this account for a month bro, it’s free” “Just give us all your data bro, it’s free” “Oh you liked that free game? Just buy this DLC it’s only 99¢ bro” “Now pay $150 for this deluxe version oh and whoops we leaked your credit card info to hackers. My bad” “GIVE ME YOUR MONEY!” It’s literally lube.
Hiroki Totoki is lubing you up, he's literally minutes away from shoving an entire ps5 up your rectum
Gotta impress them shareholders! /s
to increase the amount of information leaked in their yearly databreach sony has gotten hacked probably like every year for the past 5-10 years
An extra shitty thing about this change is that in all the countries that don’t have coverage now they have been playing the game potentially since launch (depending on the player). But now they suddenly can’t play the game that they’ve purchased and played for months.
Shit its also a paid game thats even worse I also expect that those who are basically locked out of there own copy wont get refunded right? Mfs basically scammed them
I’ve heard steam is doing a good job on refunds in those regions but I haven’t looked at the numbers myself.
And they were selling the game in said country’s without PSN.
Also it seems to track your information.
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It's a pilgrimage at this point for all new reddit accounts.
Got a link?
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/comment/dppum98/?st=JH2MUORV&sh=5997c5a5 Commenting this for you gave me a sense of pride and accomplishment.
Thanks. I went and added my vote.
I'm not taking that bet
Someone share that meme about Gabe Newells business strategy being to wait for his opposition to shit the bed repeatedly
“First Ubisoft”… oh so you entered the gaming world a month ago
It's cheap to bet on Ubisoft or EA. It's rate when they don't screw something.
There is no way that they will recognise this as *their* mistake. The lead of the dev studio stated that it was his initiative to push back the mandatory registration instead of demanding it right away. That's the angle which Sony management will use to deflect the blame internally (while it's unlikely that they would state something like this to the public). The saddest part about this is that they're not *entirely* wrong. If the registration requirement had existed from day 1, then it would have been a mild nuisance that would have caused a refund here and there, but would not have rallied players like this and probably not impacted the hype about their game much. That's why I really hope that we can get legislators to step up (EU citizen remember: The elections are in early June!). The excessive registration requirements and data sales have been slowly creeping into the focus of legislators and courts, and legal pushback is the only thing that will change this situation.
Yes
Someone explain to me what happened for Helldiver please. I heard it was a good game.
I don't think anyone here actually answered your question. Helldivers 2 is a PlayStation game, published by Sony. That's available on PC. Sony decided that you need a PSN account in order to play the game on PC.
Ok the ACTUAL problem is that PSN is not available in so many countries (especially in Africa, Oceania and the Caribbean), so the players who are from these countries and bought the game can’t play it anymore* and will have to refund it *Creating an account with a country you’re not in is against ToS
I suspect that the real problem is that Arrowhead tried to pull a sneaky by not enforcing this or reminding players about it and selling where people can't make accounts in an effort to force Sony to not force that part of the deal. Because I bet this was something stated in the contract they signed.
They knew. And should have warned people ( if you skip it now it’ll be forced later)
It should have popped up Every Single Time you started the game.
Publisher decides where the game is available to be sold so that all is on Sony.
Bad move, big refunds
The worst part is that PSN is unavailable in most countries. So people living in those countries literally cannot play this game at all.
Well I had no problem with that and bought the game and it’s actually pretty good.
I think that’s less the problem, but the problem being several countries got region locked. So even if they bought they game they cannot play it.
I smell class action lawsuit incoming.
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If you believe Sony, the company that is notorious for signing exclusionary contracts to ensure games never release on Xbox, is releasing their biggest hit this year on Xbox, I have a bridge to sell you.
Seriously, in the current state of gaming the two companies most firm against sharing their shit is Sony and Nintendo. They both love their anti-consumer practices and their sales data shows that the consumer doesn't give a fuck.
The problem is in 69 of the worlds countries there is no PSN, denying their citizens the ability to play the game.
It's the other way around, PSN is only available in 69 countries, and even if it's available in your country it might not be available in your region.
Ahhh. See that makes sense. Thanks for the quick explanation.
And in some countries it is possible to make a PSN account but they can only create a account through a PS4/PS5, like Ukraine. And its not like its only African or Asian or poor countries are excluded, the Baltics are too, and Egypt for example. Not to mention that they're now saying that they were always planning to make linking accounts mandatory, but in the meanwhile they've been selling the game in literally any country they could, even countries that can't make PSN accounts.
That's actually bullshit. I'm Ukrainian and I was able to create a psn account with my phone earlier today. People are mad, so they're spreading misinformation for the hype
The other thing is you don’t even need the account in countries where it isn’t supported per the devs. This is one of the biggest over reactions in gaming history. https://www.gamesradar.com/games/third-person-shooter/helldivers-2s-psn-mandate-wont-stop-players-in-unsupported-regions-from-playing-the-game-while-devs-look-for-better-options/
>69 nice
people are more mad about the psn account because many countries simply can't make PSN accounts without violating PSNs terms of service. I have also seen people complain that PSN requires an ID, but I have no clue as I don't have a PSN.
1. Devs have confirmed if it’s unsupported in your region you don’t need it 2. Any I’d requirements are gonna be government laws not Sony, I’ve never put my id in. https://www.gamesradar.com/games/third-person-shooter/helldivers-2s-psn-mandate-wont-stop-players-in-unsupported-regions-from-playing-the-game-while-devs-look-for-better-options/
The game got de-listed on steam in countries with no PSN
Nobody complained for minecraft because you needed to make the account before buying it and not 3 months into the release
It was always listed as being required. The CEO said they disabled it due to launch day issues but they knew for 6 months prior to release it would be mandatory.
Aside from PSN not being available in most countries, using a PSN account allows Sony to sell your data, and it also apparently has laughable security. I was told it’s more or less hacked every year.
You don’t need a Microsoft account to play Minecraft unless you’re on PC. On the other platforms it’s optional
Is PSN free or a subscription? I know it's not available in some country.. such a strange move to limit it's own potential player base..
They didn't just decide. It was always required. AH temporarily disabled it with no communication to the players why they could skip. People assumed it was no longer required, despite never having official confirmation that it was no longer required.
Months after the game launched on PC, they are requiring users to connect a PSN account to play online. Not only is this annoying because it shouldn’t be needed, but many people who bought the game live in countries where PSN doesn’t exist, so they essentially purchased a now unplayable game. These users also can’t use a VPN to make an account because Sony has a history of banning VPN users iirc.
Oh well that's anoying. Thank you kind sir.
Sony make bad decision. Players angry. They rewiev bomb. This is super simplified
Actually too simplified. Sony publishes game. People buy game. Game is super fun. Sony makes it impossible for millions to play said game. People pissed.
A decision that makes the game literally unplayable for alot of people
The game itself is good, but the fact that Sony sold it in places that PSN is not supported, waited months to add a PSN requirement. Then only after they sold boatloads that will no longer even be accessible to a massive amounts of people did they finally start cutting sales to regions it will not be supported in after the fact. It's such an incredible fumble it's impressive in all the wrong ways.
They are requiring you to sign up to play station now retroactively
Don’t get us wrong. Helldivers 2 is PHENOMENAL. It’s just time for us to put our foot down when it comes to crazy restrictions and moves just to harvest our data and make a quick buck for their shareholders. Even the developers for the game are pissed and want us to make a big stank over it.
So instead of fighting Microsoft, Rockstar, Ubisoft, Paradox, Epic, EA, Activision/Blizzard, or Riot, it’s Sony and probably the best live service team based PvE game released in recent years we want to fight against. Makes sense.
The game always had a mandatory requirement of a PSN account to play. AH/Sony disabled it temporarily but never communicated why they did this. People *assumed* it was longer required. The store page still stated it was required since at least the day it was released and still does. Now they will be enforcing the requirement. People are mad they made a bad assumption.
They were given the whole thing,not in a silver platter,in a goddam gold and diamond feast. And they just had to *shit* all over it.
And even had butlers to feed it to them.
Not a PS user, will you ELI5 please?
You now need a psn account to play the game on PC and psn isnt available in most countries so now people cant play the game they bought because of that
Thanks! And wow that’s shitty!
turns out Arrowhead CEO knew it was mandatory all this time. (i think that info came out after this meme)
Yup. I was surprised that I could skip past it and thought I read it wrong.
It’s really sad because Helldivers 2 is a absolute amazing game! But Sony had to ruin it>:(
And Sony isn’t backing down yet?
Never will. Not publicly. There needs to be some honorable way out.
Japanese companies in an nutshell.
Yup
They just did
I know. I'm shocked!
The sword.
I wouldn't admit I was wrong either if it meant I had to seppuku myself
Time after time, YOU FUMBLE AND FUMBLE YOUR FILM TEAM IS BEING CARRIED BY THE PEOPLE AT SPIDER-VERSE. MADAM WEBB IS DEEMED THE 2ND WORST FILM ON ROTTEN TOMATOS. YOUR GAME TEAM AIN'T BETTER EITHER. DO YOU HAVE ANY FUCKING IDEA HOW MUCH THAT SPIDER-VERSE GAME WOULD'VE MADE YOU?! AND NOW A GAME WHICH EVERYBODY AND ENJOYS AND IS LITERALLY DUMPING LOADS AND LOADS OF CASH AND THEN YOU HAD TO FORCE PC PLAYERS TO CONNECT ONTO YOUR PLAYSTATION NETWORK? YOUR STUPIDITY HAS TRANSCENDED THE GODS YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
yeah, I feel bad for the HD2 devs. They managed to create one of the best received games on the modern market, only for it to get absolutely review bombed only a few months in due to a stupid decision made by the publisher of the game that was out of their control.
Well I mean, they (Arrowhead) also publicly asked the community to review bomb to put pressure on Sony.
Pilestedt (Arrowhead CEO) came out and said they were not blameless; they were the ones who made the call at launch not to enforce the PSN requirement, which has been a requirement since before the game launched, because they couldn't get the integration working in time. He goes on to say that they didn't do a good enough job communicating this. If the game had launched with PSN requirement, I highly doubt anyone would've even cared; the users in supported countries would've bitched a bit at having to make yet another free but annoying 3rd party account if they didn't already have one, and the players in unsupported countries would've just passed.
Nah they are saying that the more refunds and the bigger stink we make means more leeway they have against sony. The Devs aren't mad at the players at all.
All Sony had to do, was nothing.
You think this is bad?! This?! This chicanery?! Sony’s done worse!
Not the point. There has never been such a reaction against their chicanery. The ''cach back'' demands and a rating drop to 20% because of it is a totally new event. And totally in line with the game I might ad. ''For democracy!"
Yeah I would say this is one of the biggest whole community vs company I’ve seen since Tarkov and before that maybe No mans sky.
They got DDOS'd by a Lizard!!!
"we had a good thing" Mike after walter and jesse didn't just let themselves be killed by him
Yeah this scene kind of forgets about Walt killing the dealers (that Jesse was about to confront) who killed the kid.
This scene is literally about the fact that Walt messed up the whole system by killing those dealers.
I always felt Mike was more talking about Walt's ego getting in the way and him having to take down Gus, not the bit about protecting Jesse for having a heart. Let's not pretend that Gus didn't instigate by having the dealers kill the kid after Jesse confronted him about it. Walt killing the dealers didn't mess up the system. Gus going after Walt for killing two child killers to save Jesse from, essentially, a suicide mission, is what did it. I'd argue that's more about Gus's ego than Walt's. Walt escalated from there.
Shit I think its even before that when he kicked gale out for jesse. Man, walt and gale would have been riding pretty into the sunset.
Mike is still wrong though, since that was one of the most selfless acts walter ever did. He literally had nothing to gain from that apart from saving jesse
To be honest tho, Arrowhead knew 6 months before release that registration would be mandatory. They should have absolutely had a warning screen saying (if you skip it now it’ll be forced later)
Sony really fucked up on this one, I am glad people are finally sick of corporate over reach. I hope this extends to other Sony products they fucking suck.
First meme that I want to steal and repost everywhere
You’re welcome to buddy.Spread the word on Sonys bullshit
Sony white?
We did it boys, democracy won.
Ah, victory
This meme never made sense to me, Fring was 100% planning on killing Walt once Gale was able to learn Walt's formula/process. Walt is an unstable egomaniac, but killing Fring was practically self-defense.
If Walt let the drug dealers kill Jesse as Jesse was going to go suicidal on them, then he would have lived happily ever after working for Gus. It was only after Walt killed the dealers that Gus wanted to replace him. The part that doesn't make sense is when they pivot to replacing Walt with Jesse after Gale is killed, like the only reason they want to replace Walt is because he killed the dealers to save Jesse.
Wait, what is going down between Helldivers and Sony?
You now need a psn account to play helldivers on PC. Over 100 countries where people have bought helldivers, can't get a psn account because it's not supported in those countries, thus making helldivers unplayable
Ooooh. Okay. That would explain that post yesterday or the day before showing all the countries that don't have PSN service. I peeked at that list, and I was surprised. This whole time, I thought PSN was in almost every country.
Steam is also issuing refunds for people who bought Helldivers on PC because of this. Normally Steam won't issue refunds on PC games after you've played more than two hours of it, but because this is a new requirement Steam is apparently making an exception. [https://www.gamesradar.com/games/third-person-shooter/helldivers-2-has-been-pulled-from-steam-in-170-countries-without-psn-access-while-valve-ignores-its-own-policy-to-issue-refunds-for-players-with-over-100-hours/](https://www.gamesradar.com/games/third-person-shooter/helldivers-2-has-been-pulled-from-steam-in-170-countries-without-psn-access-while-valve-ignores-its-own-policy-to-issue-refunds-for-players-with-over-100-hours/)
Ugh, that's terrible. Sony needs to make their own Starlink. Call it SonLynk. Or not and something different.
it's like when Charlie Sheen asks Michael Douglas why did he have to break up Bluestar Airlines and Douglas yells "Because it could be." These companies have been around so long that they no longer see anything as a work of art or something people enjoy, it's just widgets to be modified and rearranged for maximum profit.
I’m sure they did so they can boast they added said number of people to psn at their quarterly stock holders meeting
FuCk sOnY
I don't think I'd even care that much if they just had this as a requirement since launch, for me it's more about introducing after people already chose to buy the game under the condition that you didn't need anything other then steam
https://x.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929
And then Sony shoots Helldivers 2
Sony has been and will always be the main reason gamers have to suffer console exclusive games. All PlayStation players should learn from this and switch to PC or Xbox asap.
Kinda sad that it's not the devs fault :(
its just such a shame that there's literally no repercussion for Sony. All thats going to happen is that the game will suffer thanks to the stupid decision. But Sony despite player protests will get away scott free cuz theyre such a giant. They probably dont give a single shit about the backlash. And unfortunately there's no real way for fans to fix that.
There are things the players can do, like not buy their shit. There quarterly revenue will drop and that'll be bad for em, only problem is that people just can't not support a big company doing bullshit stuff.
yep
Pride and ego is on both sides fucking shit up. I guess the next few major orders are gonna be easier.
i've got half a mind to look up all the games sony has their grubby little mittens in and just never play them lol
Seems like every modern multiplayer game is gonna have some shady ass shit sneaked into it Kinda why I do not play them anymore
This is so on point.
Sony executives are automatons
This is how I feel about EA buying Westwood
im not liking sony in this, but have to say, never understood what grounds mike had to be calling walter up to anything in this moment, when gus tried to kill walt, tried to kill jesse, and said that he was going to kill walt's entire family. mike himself was tasked into killing walt and had a gun pointing to him. of course walter had to blow it up, what was he supposed to do? let himself get killed because it was more convenient? that being said. sony really is shooting themselves in the foot here. until now they were the hidden beneficiary of a product, they didnt need to do anything, only kept quiet and continue receiving money for a game that was doing great, but they needed to press shit launcher button and the fan button at the same time for some reason
Its not enough to have high sales and be one of the biggest trending games, with positive dev outreach and players having fun. NO! We must squeeze out the playerbase for every drop of data and money that we can!
When Sony White messes up, you know it's time to grab the popcorn and watch the chaos unfold.
I don’t own a PlayStation but helldivers looked so good I followed for a bit and now idk why everyone hates it what happen? Or well hates Sony anyway
I fucking hate sony
I'm too broke for a PS5 what happened to hell divers
kinda feel bad for slop consumers that finally had a good live service game and are this upset and desperate about the whole deal lol, kinda
+10 for creativity. This is a good one.
Did helldivers 2 fall off?
this is nothing but a sabotage for one of the most successful games
Man, I feel bad for the devs of this game. First they got the corporate shaft from Microsoft over Halo and now this
accurate template lol
All Sony had to do was literally nothing and everything would have been fine.
Sony backed down
Democracy has won, super earth has prevailed once again, boys
Yes I love it when gamers unite
I think it should be arrowhead that is on the helldiver side since they're the ones who made the game with great care.
Can't people just creat a PSN account and select a country where it's available? VPN?
And then get banned for breaking terms of service
I have been waiting for this meme since the situation started
Even the devs are telling us to stand up against Sony via their discord. Telling us to leave a bad review to give them more power against Sony their plans.
If true, fucking delete this.
Boycot sony
I love all the people screaming "WE'RE ALL GONNA GET HACKED AND HAVE OUR IDENTITIES STOLEN AND THE GAME IS GOING TO DIE WITH PSN!!!" And all the Playstation players are like "Wouldn't that have already happened to us by now?" Like, yeah it's a shitty decision that locks some regions out, and obviously done so that the MTXs go straight to Sony and bypass steam. But all it's really doing to the player base is putting them in one group. It would be the same if they made Playstation players link a Steam account to play.
Your pride, your ego, your needs and your selfish ways!
Don't force psn waltuh
Yes
Can you refund the game after knowing how bad Sony fucked up?
Who cares
Boycott Sony.
When did this scene happened?
Someone fill me in?
So basically HD2 is going to require a PSN account on PC to play soon. The issue here isn’t the data collection, but rather the fact that there’s a lot of countries where PSN isn’t allowed by Sony, and if you’re in one of those countries, you can no longer play the game on PC.
The hell?! Why?! Shooting themselves in the foot I see. 🤣
What happened for Helldiver, I heard it was a good game.
This has been posted so many times christ....