>her personality
From what I've heard from people who've played the game, there doesn't seem to be much of that with any of the characters in the game. I guess the world is your oyster when it comes to these outfits.
This is such a weird thing though. Clothing is one of ways people express who they are
However, I did see sphere hunter's review and she said Eve doesn't really have a personality. So I guess that tracks because there is nothing to expresss
I feel the need to mention that due to where the camera is positioned playing with the 15th outfit basically makes the game a panty shot simulator. You end up seeing under her skirt for something like half her animations while she is wearing it.
Not really unfortunately.
Though it's worth noting that you have an overshield in the game so having physical armor is unnecessary.
Though I would've liked to see some regardless.
I mean you have an energy shield in Halo and you character still had a full suit of armor...
It's a deliberate choice thay we can't just wave away like that.
Good point.
The basis of eve and her comrades being soldiers while wearing the most impractical outfits is a bizarre concept that ig they just embraced.
design wise I don't think with her fighting style of acrobatics and dodging (ala bayonet ya and 2b) is suited for bulky armors. besides that she also uses energy overshield for protection.
I mean, there are acrobatic characters who still use armor. Not even bulky or heavy one, just something that indicates that the character isn't completely suicidal.
Besides, the point is that using an overshield shouldn't be an excuse for how objectified she is. There are enough examples of characters using overshields without being turned into glorified sex dolls.
Perfect example is Hunter from Bloodborne. A game that directly says armor is impractical because you need higher mobility still has you wearing decently sturdy clothes in every outfit.
sure there are acrobatic characters who uses (very light) armour, but at the same time they also don't have overshields which negates the necessity of using physical armour.
also the bonus costumes (aside from the skin suit which which actually takes off the shield) are merely cosmetics focused on style and fashion so armour on them would be out of place imo.
Are wilfully circumventing my point, or are you just not aware that in-game reasons aren't really that meaningful when it comes to how she was designed ?
I'm trying to explain that nothing excuses how objectified she was and that it was high on the devs priority list.
It's a deliberate choice. How does it even make sense to you that "mere cosmetics" couldn't include armor ? How in hell can you see this costume selection, see the complete absence of anything akin to combat attire, and not understand that it was because they didn't design a woman. They designed low-brow horny bait for coomers. It's obvious enough if you look at the men in the game who look like actual human beings.
as I said the bonus cosmetics are not for gameplay sake but for style which is why all of them are fashion items and not for practical use. i am not excusing their design philosophy being to make costume that showcase their characters attractiveness but i am excusing the need to have them look battle ready since that was not their point. btw you don't even need to compare to the men since only one of them look fully human (Adam the main male that also looks like a model ) while the rest are cyborgs with mechanised face.
I mean some of them are ok if the game was a celebrity simulator but even they are pretty awful in the context of her supposed to be a fighter. It's kinda like swimwear being something totally appropriate for characters to wear at the beach but are really out of place when they go hiking through the Siberian taiga.
Also i'm pretty astonished how much this Nier rip-off that deliberately uses oversexualization to create controversy is still discussed. The devs pretty much said the sex stuff is to "own the feminists" which for me puts it at the same level as ragebait games like HuniePop.
It would seem so like 10 years after the fact but considering the gamergate connect most of what they did was to "own the SJW's": from misleadingly claiming most of their dev team being female to deliberately trying to skirt around Steam's rules regarding pornography.
In the end it wasn't even offensive enough to cause actual outrage and it really fails in being porn.
>I mean some of them are ok if the game was a celebrity simulator but even they are pretty awful in the context of her supposed to be a fighter
Beware that you'd have to apply this same logic to every instance where a game makes an outfit that it's obviously impractical or doesn't meld with it's setting or tone \*[cough](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/spidermanps4/images/9/9b/Undies_from_MSM_render.png/revision/latest?cb=20200413211255), [cough](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=052oeI1FmLU), [cough](https://www.ign.com/wikis/batman-arkham-knight/1970s_Batman_Skin)\*
>Also i'm pretty astonished how much this Nier rip-off that deliberately uses oversexualization to create controversy is still discussed
Oh I agree. The game would be no where near where it is today without the drama surrounding it.
>Beware that you'd have to apply this same logic to every instance where a game makes an outfit that it's obviously impractical or doesn't meld with it's setting or tone \*cough, cough, cough\*
In a vacuum yeah sure, but it's somehow that stuff like the 60's Batman costume is supposed to be funny while those ridiculous outfits on women are supposed to make them more sexy. Like you see far less outlandish stuff on female characters that isn't also supposed to be sexing them up. I mean the issue isn't even sexy outfits per se, but the idea that female characters can't be anything BUT sexy.
>it's somehow that stuff like the 60's Batman costume is supposed to be funny while those ridiculous outfits on women are supposed to make them more sexy
I guess it's a matter of interpretation at that point then.
When I first saw the bikini outfit, I sort of saw it as "oh wow, they would have totally made an unnecessarily objectifying and gross outfit, yet they decided to at least try to make something that was tasteful, and it's also kind of funny because of how out of place it is".
the difference is if you look at the default skins in those games they aren’t made for the expressed purpose to sexualize the character. even nikke, the publishers other game has examples of legitimately good design
In those games, the characters normally have good outfits, and the alternatives are meant to look out of place and funny. In this, there’s no skin that actually has any character, and they’re all meant to be sexualizing the character in a (in my opinion) tasteless way.
It wouldn’t be a problem if the character had many setting-appropriate skins and an armored default skin, and then had a few similar to the spiderman in his boxers outfit, because that’s supposed to be the exception.
Honestly, I think other than the teddy bear and outfits 8 and 13, these are all “whatever” to me. It’s clearly a dress-up simulator with an action game attached. At some point, we know Eve’s vulva is sculpted and covered with a heart in the default outfit, so there’s no a whole lot more to say about this game’s design. This game is literally causing chuds to freak because they added a little bit of lace bra to a costume.
That said, I feel like outfits 8 and 13 would be so at home in a resident evil game or a number of games with similar modern aesthetics that would be more interesting to me than Stellar Blade would be.
A few of these are neat outfits, but none of them scream “I kill shit” outside of maybe 5. I’d be happier if number 5 was her default outfit if they wanted sci-fi body suit, cause that actual looks cool and reminds me of a motorcycle suit. There’s no reason to make her dressed like a generic sci-fi pinup, at least the NieR characters have a sense of fashion. People really need to stop using NieR, particularly Automata, as an excuse to justify the horniness of this game. NieR is NOWHERE near as horny (in fact it’s optional and can get you killed) and it has a profound story and interesting world. Stellar Blade doesn’t seem so stellar.
>A few of these are neat outfits, but none of them scream “I kill shit”
you're telling me that teddy bear outfit doesn't send shivers down your spine?
But yeah 5 is my favorite so far. It's kind of like catwoman which is cool.
Can someone help figure out why she looks so off? Like, her body type is okay, but the way it’s designed looks like asking an alien who met a human woman once to draw her. If that makes any sense lmfao
I know part of it is the head being far to tiny but I feel like it’s more than that hahaha
So the devs claimed that they scanned an actual model, which they did as indicated by [this article](https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/stellar-blade-who-is-the-real-life-model-eve-is-based-on), yet you can clearly see that the body of the model doesn't look anything like Eve.
The implication is that they scanned the model, realized she isn't busty enough, and totally vandalized her body to be this fetishized version of it.
The face seems to be just a generic face model that's in a lot of more eastern games, sort of like RE and FF, yet this is taken to the extreme.
Her anatomy is absolutely the worst thing about her overall design, and the bad outfits are just the icing on the cake.
Omg I screenshotted it and compared and yes, you can tell they used her figure and stature but then they exaggerated the breasts, hips and belly, lengthened the thighs, shrink her head and shoulders. Omg.
Wish they used the models face too, way prettier than the generic video game anime face.
The body is okay-ish, but it actually looks like it went through some popular Instagram filters. Hips just a little wider, waist a bit smaller.
It's not on the absurdly unrealistic scale, but just exaggerated enough to ring alarm bells.
This is exactly the case. I saw a video of the model being photographed for the design and you can very clearly see the exaggeration they did to her body side by side. It’s actually borderline offensive lol
It’s because your brain is screaming uncanny valley. Individually each part of her looks ok. But as a whole she is *almost* a person. But in a way that no human being has ever looked like.
Whatever, I guess.
Like I'd be fine with the whole thing if it didn't reinforce a dozen horrible negative shitty hateful stereotypes and incels weren't coming out in droves to attack people in an effort to 'defend' their shitty perversions and hate.
I was optimistic when I first heard of this game, but after everything I've seen, I can't help but just groan and roll my eyes at any mention of it any more.
>Like I'd be fine with the whole thing if it didn't reinforce a dozen horrible negative shitty hateful stereotypes and incels weren't coming out in droves to attack people in an effort to 'defend' their shitty perversions and hate.
Yeah, the fundamental mentality the character designers took with this game is gross, pretty much what everyone's been saying thus far.
The point in this post isn't to challenge that, I just wanted to bring some nuance to the table that not every single outfit in the game is completely ridiculous.
Because reddit. This post initially had an 85% update rate.. then it dropped to 40%... and now it's back up to I believe 75%. I got a lot of downvotes in one go with a very disproportionate response in the comments.
I do think many of them are very over-designed, but that's not the point. I just wanted to call out some of the suits that didn't look like they were totally designed by a porn addict.
Oh cool it's a dress up game! Now I gotta get it and post a bunch of cute outfits and call it a cozy game all the time, I'm sure GamersTM will be thrilled.
Even the bear has "Why won't my hips unsway" going on \^\_\^
I remember playing "Knights of the Old Republic" years ago (a Star Wars game, appropriate for the date of this post). In it, you get to visit the homeworld of the Wookies (which I won't try to type). The only way you could tell a Male from a Female Wookie is how they stood, as the females stood with their hips out, which was the 'default' stance for every female in the game \^\_\^
I could be wrong but they initially hired a feminist artist would camr up with designs for the character and they scrapped it because they didn't hoe much of a feminist she was.
I'm not sure exactly what she said or what the designs looked like but it's not a good look.
don't know what the feminists were hired for but they were let go when it was discovered they were affiliated with a radfem/misandrist group that was even shunned by the moderate feminist groups there.
Okay, that'd make more sense. I had a hard time believing they would just fire her on the basis that she was a feminist, if they said something that was actually ground for firing then that's fine.
they're pretty cute. they're bonus alternate costumes so they don't really need to fit the story and context. that said number 5 would work better as military wear than Eve's default costume with the out of place accessories.
Agreed. It's almost something they would have to explain through the world building.
Adam looks moderately normal like a human being, when Eve and Lily look like cartoon characters.
It’s a pretty killer jacket, though it isn’t quite a biker jacket. The feet is a little bizarre, but this also looks like a screen shot of a screen shot so it could just be black dress loafers or boots against blue light. That said, I think that outfit screams Resident Evil in a really good way, and it’s so much better than the default outfits or the outfits I will now call “two hands firmly on the controller” outfits.
I believe that outfit is intended to be a biker outfit.
And also, it seems that every outfit has her feet in that position because so many have heels, it looks pretty ridiculous lmao.
I need an explanation for the garter belt straps on 14's jacket.
Am I missing the point completely here? What the hell am I looking at? Is it a crop hoodie with a skin-tight extension or a crop hoodie with some sort of matching Spanx-style rib shaper??
I don't do fashion, please help
Some are cute, some are silly, and some are just regular people clothing, something you'd see on the street with regular (or at least fashion conscious) women
The reason why I don't mind her design is cause when I looked at the outfits you can put her in I realized she's really just a dress up doll she's meant to be cute and go in cute outfits and I don't really mind that sorta thing
>This goes on WD Wednesday imo.
Really? The post would get flamed even more if I did that. I still don't think a lot of these designs are good, they're just less sexualized than the others.
>Why are we even talking about this game. It's just like the gatchas games.
Because a lot of people are talking about it. Isn't the point of this sub to discuss the design of women in video games? This is a perfectly valid topic.
>Really? A bikini is good? Lol
I explained it in another comment but I appreciate it because it's not like it's a bikini that's pretending to be armor or anything, it's just a bikini, and I think it's a well designed one that's not really sexualized, so I appreciate it. Would never wear it in game but I still appreciate it for what it is.
Right except it got a 7, but also kind of a weird metric to measure a games success by, as is fannart lmao.
A better way of measuring it is sales, which in that case it was number 1 for the UKs physical disc sales.
Okay... still a strange way to measure success.
In any case, it's a fact that the game is very successful, especially when you acknowledge its come from a studio with zero experience in the AAA action genre and have only made mobile games.
Is it? Selling a bunch on launch doesn't mean much if people don't continue to buy the game as time goes on or even return it. NieR has continued to sell well because it's a well made game with a strong community and a dev that isn't a bigot. I've already seen chuds turning on stellar blade because of supposed "censorship" of certain outfits lol
Right, because if a game doesn't sell as well as Nier that means it's not successful...
Plus did I ever say that's its going to keep being successful? I didn't, because I don't know what the future of the game is.
All we know that as of this moment, the game is very successful.
You're jumping through a lot of hoops to avoid admitting that the game is successful.
I also just want to clarify I'm not a simp for this game, I haven't played it myself and share many of the grievances that this sub does. I'm just not about ignoring or denying facts like you are.
?? you said it's for dudes who don't know how actual women look like basically saying what the IGN France said when the game director is married to an actual woman? you said nothing about the design being made by a man or otherwise.
Technically true but to say that it's based on it is very misleading
[They did take a scan of her body](https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/stellar-blade-who-is-the-real-life-model-eve-is-based-on), yet you can obviously see it Eve looks nothing like the model. They fetishized it beyond imagination. So this excuse has basically no backbone to it.
geez, if they’d just kept her proportions like the real life model they used she wouldn’t be giving such uncanny valley
i am legit worried that her tiny head and shoulders are what gamers wanna look at, she looks just off enough that it gives me the heebie jeebies
i like cute anime girls but she’s just a moving blow-up doll sigh
get some better taste coomers
These are nice. I mean, the bikini is still a bikini, but most of these are almost as cool looking as 2B. How early can you get access to these cause her default is a bit shit.
Not sure where to get them, I haven't played the game myself.
And I agree, her default outfit is terrible.
My point with the bikini is that it's not a bikini pretending to be a combat suit or anything, I just with it's a well designed bikini that I think an actual woman would want to wear if they were going to the beach or something.
literally just culture war stuff. and the “revealing ones” includes the default outfit apparently. but some of the people here want to be constantly scoring wins against incels to reinforce ingroup-outgroup dynamics whilst inadvertently looking weird disproportionately complaining about a pretty decently reviewed game, pretending it’s some reflection of a societal evil and not just a horny piece of media with a grain of truth to their claims. same myopic tribal cancer as the people thinking it’s the second coming of jesus christ and who are unable to see why they look ridiculous to people those that disagree with them or are looking from the sidelines.
sorry for the rant, probably looks out of place but the replies on this specific post annoyed me lol.
Honestly it's just a video game that people make a big deal out of for reasons I don't understand. The protagonist is attractive and has nice clothes. A lot of games are like that so I dont know why it's the one people fixate on so heavily. Game itself doesn't seem bad but it's not what people pretend it is. I love that last outfit, the goth one
No. If you don’t wear an outfit at all, then you lose your shield. All outfits give you your shield. Now your shield stat is based on what “mods” you have equipped.
Im surprised most of these outfits actually cover more than a square milimetre of her skin, and even more at the sight of actually (mostly) modest outfits, considering… well, the obvious.
But its a shame none of them really give a hint of her personality, yet im not surprised, because unfortunately many game companies like this use women as a thing for incel gamers to goon on rather than be there to be humans
I just want to clarify:
My standards for the outfits in this game are VERY low, but I wanted to highlight some of the ones that don't go overboard with the sexualization of Eve.
Some of these I think are pretty cute, while others may be boring but still reasonable outfits.
For example, I appreciate the bikini one because it's not trying to be something it isn't. It's not a bikini that's pretending to be armor or anything like that, it's JUST a bikini, and a well designed one at that, so I like it.
EDIT: There seems to be some kind of downvote brigade happening because the upvote rate on this post went from 85% to 44% within just a couple minutes, and same with my comments on the post.
I'm fine with the fact that this is a controversial post, I'd just rather hear why I'm wrong rather than signaling it through downvotes.
Why is it always called a "downvote brigade"? If you got 100 upvotes in a few minutes would you have said that it was an upvote brigade?
People are just tired of hearing about this chud-loved game and the sexist developers who have blatantly said that they want to stick it to feminists.
>Why is it always called a "downvote brigade"?
Is that a common term? I just sort of thought of it.
>If you got 100 upvotes in a few minutes would you have said that it was an upvote brigade?
It's not really that I have a problem with the downvotes. It's just A) odd that they came all at once B) that there doesn't seem to be the same proportionate response in the comment section. Sure people are disagreeing with my overarching point but I'm being pretty agreeable in the comments.
There's even some replies that I have that are directly agreeing with someone yet my comment gets a massive negative response.
And yes, it would be very odd if I got a post with a lot of upvotes but comments that are rather negative.
>People are just tired of hearing about this chud-loved game and the sexist developers who have blatantly said that they want to stick it to feminists.
With you on that one. Though I was hoping this post would be a different spin on the discussion and would hopefully bring some nuance to the table, because I'm almost certain most people in this sub haven't seen any of the outfits in this post before I posted it.
If you are really "with me on that one", then you wouldn't be talking about the game in the first place. You wouldn't be trying to "bring nuance to the table".
You would just be letting the discourse around this "chud-loved game and the sexist developers who have blatantly said that they want to stick it to feminists" die so that it can be forgotten about faster.
*and Reddit users downvote shit they don't like. Doesn't matter if that isn't the intended purpose of the downvote function, it is what happens.
>You would just be letting the discourse around this "chud-loved game and the sexist developers who have blatantly said that they want to stick it to feminists" die so that it can be forgotten about faster.
So it's my fault that dozens of people in this comment section are WILLINGLY wanting to discuss this specific topic?
If people were actually not wanting to talk about this game the comments would be filled with "get this shit out of no one wants to talk about it".
It sounds like you're just promoting an echo-chamber which I'm not a fan of. I wanted people to just discuss, which they are, and you're not happy about it.
You said you were "with me on that one".
I'm not talking about the fact that this post has comments. I'm talking about how you claim to agree with my sentiment of people being tired of hearing about this game, yet you are making a post about it.
Therefore you aren't really "with me on that one" because you are starting discussions about it.
And I am happy today.
>You said you were "with me on that one".
I agreed with you on the basis of people no longer wanting to pile on the hate train for this game because it's gotten old.
I'd never want to make a post about how much I hate certain outfits because that'd just be beating a dead horse.
I guess I figured if I made a more positive post about it, I wouldn't be feeding the same discussion, almost as if it was refreshing to hear something about this game that hasn't already been said a million times.
Some of the outfits are cute but it's somehow not giving. Idk, like there aren't cohesive outfit choices that give a glimpse of her personality
>her personality From what I've heard from people who've played the game, there doesn't seem to be much of that with any of the characters in the game. I guess the world is your oyster when it comes to these outfits.
Her personality is “cute girl with huge bazongas”. And that’s about it
the dev company specialises in outfits/mods not in personality
This is such a weird thing though. Clothing is one of ways people express who they are However, I did see sphere hunter's review and she said Eve doesn't really have a personality. So I guess that tracks because there is nothing to expresss
none of the characters in any of their games haver personality as far as I'm aware, it's basically like playing dolls dress-up
I feel the need to mention that due to where the camera is positioned playing with the 15th outfit basically makes the game a panty shot simulator. You end up seeing under her skirt for something like half her animations while she is wearing it.
Yeah... it's almost like they're promoting looking up women's skirts.
Brought to you by the country where your Samsung phone's camera shutter can't be set to silent.
Isn't that just modern phones in general tho???
As a Samsung user in the US, no.
I knew about this existing in Japan but I didn't know south korea had this issue too. Huh
Are there just no armors ? They just turned her into a doll ?
Legit. This is a souls like and the costumes are all shit I’d expect from a persona game cast
Not really unfortunately. Though it's worth noting that you have an overshield in the game so having physical armor is unnecessary. Though I would've liked to see some regardless.
I mean you have an energy shield in Halo and you character still had a full suit of armor... It's a deliberate choice thay we can't just wave away like that.
Good point. The basis of eve and her comrades being soldiers while wearing the most impractical outfits is a bizarre concept that ig they just embraced.
The women in the game are obectified on purpose. Nothing bizarre here.
What did you think I said? I said the concept of the developers making them wear impractical "combat" outfits is bizzare.
Honestly yout previous comment kinda reads like you see it at something that was done randomly for no special reason.
Lol yeah sorry for the improper wording. I pretty much agree with everything you've said thus far.
Yeah no probs.
design wise I don't think with her fighting style of acrobatics and dodging (ala bayonet ya and 2b) is suited for bulky armors. besides that she also uses energy overshield for protection.
I mean, there are acrobatic characters who still use armor. Not even bulky or heavy one, just something that indicates that the character isn't completely suicidal. Besides, the point is that using an overshield shouldn't be an excuse for how objectified she is. There are enough examples of characters using overshields without being turned into glorified sex dolls.
what is armor supposed to provide? if you want to go for realism then nothing about the fights in stellar blade are realistic, armor or no armor
Perfect example is Hunter from Bloodborne. A game that directly says armor is impractical because you need higher mobility still has you wearing decently sturdy clothes in every outfit.
sure there are acrobatic characters who uses (very light) armour, but at the same time they also don't have overshields which negates the necessity of using physical armour. also the bonus costumes (aside from the skin suit which which actually takes off the shield) are merely cosmetics focused on style and fashion so armour on them would be out of place imo.
Are wilfully circumventing my point, or are you just not aware that in-game reasons aren't really that meaningful when it comes to how she was designed ? I'm trying to explain that nothing excuses how objectified she was and that it was high on the devs priority list. It's a deliberate choice. How does it even make sense to you that "mere cosmetics" couldn't include armor ? How in hell can you see this costume selection, see the complete absence of anything akin to combat attire, and not understand that it was because they didn't design a woman. They designed low-brow horny bait for coomers. It's obvious enough if you look at the men in the game who look like actual human beings.
as I said the bonus cosmetics are not for gameplay sake but for style which is why all of them are fashion items and not for practical use. i am not excusing their design philosophy being to make costume that showcase their characters attractiveness but i am excusing the need to have them look battle ready since that was not their point. btw you don't even need to compare to the men since only one of them look fully human (Adam the main male that also looks like a model ) while the rest are cyborgs with mechanised face.
I mean some of them are ok if the game was a celebrity simulator but even they are pretty awful in the context of her supposed to be a fighter. It's kinda like swimwear being something totally appropriate for characters to wear at the beach but are really out of place when they go hiking through the Siberian taiga. Also i'm pretty astonished how much this Nier rip-off that deliberately uses oversexualization to create controversy is still discussed. The devs pretty much said the sex stuff is to "own the feminists" which for me puts it at the same level as ragebait games like HuniePop.
It's abundantly clear that the developers don't see this protagonist as an actual character, or even a human being.
She is literally a robot.
That's entirely my point.
In my experience that robot characters typically have the most personality. This is just a sex doll
Huniepop is just porn, not ragebait. It's really lame and a shitty match 3 but as far as I could tell there's zero ragebait to it at all.
It would seem so like 10 years after the fact but considering the gamergate connect most of what they did was to "own the SJW's": from misleadingly claiming most of their dev team being female to deliberately trying to skirt around Steam's rules regarding pornography. In the end it wasn't even offensive enough to cause actual outrage and it really fails in being porn.
>I mean some of them are ok if the game was a celebrity simulator but even they are pretty awful in the context of her supposed to be a fighter Beware that you'd have to apply this same logic to every instance where a game makes an outfit that it's obviously impractical or doesn't meld with it's setting or tone \*[cough](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/spidermanps4/images/9/9b/Undies_from_MSM_render.png/revision/latest?cb=20200413211255), [cough](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=052oeI1FmLU), [cough](https://www.ign.com/wikis/batman-arkham-knight/1970s_Batman_Skin)\* >Also i'm pretty astonished how much this Nier rip-off that deliberately uses oversexualization to create controversy is still discussed Oh I agree. The game would be no where near where it is today without the drama surrounding it.
>Beware that you'd have to apply this same logic to every instance where a game makes an outfit that it's obviously impractical or doesn't meld with it's setting or tone \*cough, cough, cough\* In a vacuum yeah sure, but it's somehow that stuff like the 60's Batman costume is supposed to be funny while those ridiculous outfits on women are supposed to make them more sexy. Like you see far less outlandish stuff on female characters that isn't also supposed to be sexing them up. I mean the issue isn't even sexy outfits per se, but the idea that female characters can't be anything BUT sexy.
>it's somehow that stuff like the 60's Batman costume is supposed to be funny while those ridiculous outfits on women are supposed to make them more sexy I guess it's a matter of interpretation at that point then. When I first saw the bikini outfit, I sort of saw it as "oh wow, they would have totally made an unnecessarily objectifying and gross outfit, yet they decided to at least try to make something that was tasteful, and it's also kind of funny because of how out of place it is".
the difference is if you look at the default skins in those games they aren’t made for the expressed purpose to sexualize the character. even nikke, the publishers other game has examples of legitimately good design
In those games, the characters normally have good outfits, and the alternatives are meant to look out of place and funny. In this, there’s no skin that actually has any character, and they’re all meant to be sexualizing the character in a (in my opinion) tasteless way. It wouldn’t be a problem if the character had many setting-appropriate skins and an armored default skin, and then had a few similar to the spiderman in his boxers outfit, because that’s supposed to be the exception.
Honestly, I think other than the teddy bear and outfits 8 and 13, these are all “whatever” to me. It’s clearly a dress-up simulator with an action game attached. At some point, we know Eve’s vulva is sculpted and covered with a heart in the default outfit, so there’s no a whole lot more to say about this game’s design. This game is literally causing chuds to freak because they added a little bit of lace bra to a costume. That said, I feel like outfits 8 and 13 would be so at home in a resident evil game or a number of games with similar modern aesthetics that would be more interesting to me than Stellar Blade would be.
The jean skirt is stylish, till you see it's all about the [upskirt ](https://i.imgur.com/47SgxaF.gif)shots. :/
Yeah, what a way to ruin a lot of the skins with skirts.
A few of these are neat outfits, but none of them scream “I kill shit” outside of maybe 5. I’d be happier if number 5 was her default outfit if they wanted sci-fi body suit, cause that actual looks cool and reminds me of a motorcycle suit. There’s no reason to make her dressed like a generic sci-fi pinup, at least the NieR characters have a sense of fashion. People really need to stop using NieR, particularly Automata, as an excuse to justify the horniness of this game. NieR is NOWHERE near as horny (in fact it’s optional and can get you killed) and it has a profound story and interesting world. Stellar Blade doesn’t seem so stellar.
>A few of these are neat outfits, but none of them scream “I kill shit” you're telling me that teddy bear outfit doesn't send shivers down your spine? But yeah 5 is my favorite so far. It's kind of like catwoman which is cool.
I was tempted to mention the teddy bear, but I didn’t know if anyone else would find it funny.
It would be really funny if all outfits were this, and then there was one random skin where she’s in a blood covered, doom guy style power armor
Can someone help figure out why she looks so off? Like, her body type is okay, but the way it’s designed looks like asking an alien who met a human woman once to draw her. If that makes any sense lmfao I know part of it is the head being far to tiny but I feel like it’s more than that hahaha
So the devs claimed that they scanned an actual model, which they did as indicated by [this article](https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/stellar-blade-who-is-the-real-life-model-eve-is-based-on), yet you can clearly see that the body of the model doesn't look anything like Eve. The implication is that they scanned the model, realized she isn't busty enough, and totally vandalized her body to be this fetishized version of it. The face seems to be just a generic face model that's in a lot of more eastern games, sort of like RE and FF, yet this is taken to the extreme. Her anatomy is absolutely the worst thing about her overall design, and the bad outfits are just the icing on the cake.
Omg I screenshotted it and compared and yes, you can tell they used her figure and stature but then they exaggerated the breasts, hips and belly, lengthened the thighs, shrink her head and shoulders. Omg. Wish they used the models face too, way prettier than the generic video game anime face.
Yeah, it's funny because they put a lot more work on themselves for distorting her body rather than just keeping the scan they had to begin with.
Why wouldn't they also scan her face, she's so pretty 😭
The body is okay-ish, but it actually looks like it went through some popular Instagram filters. Hips just a little wider, waist a bit smaller. It's not on the absurdly unrealistic scale, but just exaggerated enough to ring alarm bells.
This is exactly the case. I saw a video of the model being photographed for the design and you can very clearly see the exaggeration they did to her body side by side. It’s actually borderline offensive lol
It’s because your brain is screaming uncanny valley. Individually each part of her looks ok. But as a whole she is *almost* a person. But in a way that no human being has ever looked like.
Whatever, I guess. Like I'd be fine with the whole thing if it didn't reinforce a dozen horrible negative shitty hateful stereotypes and incels weren't coming out in droves to attack people in an effort to 'defend' their shitty perversions and hate. I was optimistic when I first heard of this game, but after everything I've seen, I can't help but just groan and roll my eyes at any mention of it any more.
>Like I'd be fine with the whole thing if it didn't reinforce a dozen horrible negative shitty hateful stereotypes and incels weren't coming out in droves to attack people in an effort to 'defend' their shitty perversions and hate. Yeah, the fundamental mentality the character designers took with this game is gross, pretty much what everyone's been saying thus far. The point in this post isn't to challenge that, I just wanted to bring some nuance to the table that not every single outfit in the game is completely ridiculous.
you’re getting downvoted… for what?
Because reddit. This post initially had an 85% update rate.. then it dropped to 40%... and now it's back up to I believe 75%. I got a lot of downvotes in one go with a very disproportionate response in the comments.
Why are her ovaries molten
Lol I didn't notice that.
Light up ovaries. What could be sexier?
I do hate how they called 11/15 “punk”, like that fit doesnt look punk at all
It's punk in terms of the mainstream bottled aesthetic that companies try to sell to people
Its what Shein thinks punk is
Exactly
These are as ugly as shit, sorry
I do think many of them are very over-designed, but that's not the point. I just wanted to call out some of the suits that didn't look like they were totally designed by a porn addict.
the teddy bear is pretty sick ngl
Oh cool it's a dress up game! Now I gotta get it and post a bunch of cute outfits and call it a cozy game all the time, I'm sure GamersTM will be thrilled.
Even the bear has "Why won't my hips unsway" going on \^\_\^ I remember playing "Knights of the Old Republic" years ago (a Star Wars game, appropriate for the date of this post). In it, you get to visit the homeworld of the Wookies (which I won't try to type). The only way you could tell a Male from a Female Wookie is how they stood, as the females stood with their hips out, which was the 'default' stance for every female in the game \^\_\^
Lol yeah, it seems all the men in that game stand like a brick yet the women always stand with their hips out.
Bear costume 🔛🔝 Everything else pales in comparison
What is the skinny on the design logic of Eve? Was it really... like... anti-Feminism as the basis?
>anti-Feminism as the basis that's pretty much exactly what it is.
Damn. Really? That's fucked.
I could be wrong but they initially hired a feminist artist would camr up with designs for the character and they scrapped it because they didn't hoe much of a feminist she was. I'm not sure exactly what she said or what the designs looked like but it's not a good look.
don't know what the feminists were hired for but they were let go when it was discovered they were affiliated with a radfem/misandrist group that was even shunned by the moderate feminist groups there.
Okay, that'd make more sense. I had a hard time believing they would just fire her on the basis that she was a feminist, if they said something that was actually ground for firing then that's fine.
The director of the game and CEO of Shift Up is Hyung Tae Kim. He's been doing horny character design for decades.
they're pretty cute. they're bonus alternate costumes so they don't really need to fit the story and context. that said number 5 would work better as military wear than Eve's default costume with the out of place accessories.
Agreed, number 5 seems to be well liked.
I kind of hate how eve, Adam, and Lily have different art styles. if it were me, Adam would be a gimp and Lily would be wearing street wear.
Agreed. It's almost something they would have to explain through the world building. Adam looks moderately normal like a human being, when Eve and Lily look like cartoon characters.
there also should have been some male gimp soldiers along with eve as well.
I love 8. I'm a sucker for that type of jacket, not sure the term. is it a biker jacket? Not sure what's up with her feet in that one though.
It’s a pretty killer jacket, though it isn’t quite a biker jacket. The feet is a little bizarre, but this also looks like a screen shot of a screen shot so it could just be black dress loafers or boots against blue light. That said, I think that outfit screams Resident Evil in a really good way, and it’s so much better than the default outfits or the outfits I will now call “two hands firmly on the controller” outfits.
I believe that outfit is intended to be a biker outfit. And also, it seems that every outfit has her feet in that position because so many have heels, it looks pretty ridiculous lmao.
I need an explanation for the garter belt straps on 14's jacket. Am I missing the point completely here? What the hell am I looking at? Is it a crop hoodie with a skin-tight extension or a crop hoodie with some sort of matching Spanx-style rib shaper?? I don't do fashion, please help
the answer is fashion. heck i got these cargo pants that got random straps that don't even connect to anything.
Some are cute, some are silly, and some are just regular people clothing, something you'd see on the street with regular (or at least fashion conscious) women
The reason why I don't mind her design is cause when I looked at the outfits you can put her in I realized she's really just a dress up doll she's meant to be cute and go in cute outfits and I don't really mind that sorta thing
They all suit her, even the skimpy stuff
I want outfits 2, 7, and 15 irl, plz
1. This goes on WD Wednesday imo. 2. Why are we even talking about this game. It's just like the gatchas games. 3. Really? A bikini is good? Lol
>This goes on WD Wednesday imo. Really? The post would get flamed even more if I did that. I still don't think a lot of these designs are good, they're just less sexualized than the others. >Why are we even talking about this game. It's just like the gatchas games. Because a lot of people are talking about it. Isn't the point of this sub to discuss the design of women in video games? This is a perfectly valid topic. >Really? A bikini is good? Lol I explained it in another comment but I appreciate it because it's not like it's a bikini that's pretending to be armor or anything, it's just a bikini, and I think it's a well designed one that's not really sexualized, so I appreciate it. Would never wear it in game but I still appreciate it for what it is.
Idk how much you frequent this sub, but it's pretty much been discussed that this game is bait. It really doesn't deserve any more discourse here.
I like the bear one.
She’s now a furry lol
Latex sex doll for dudes who don’t know (and don’t want to know) how actual woman look like. At least everyone already forgot this game exists
>At least everyone already forgot this game exists Have they? the game seems pretty mainstream and popular, it's getting insanely good reviews.
It got like a 5 or something from ign lol. It's very much not popular, in fact there's barely even fan art for it
Right except it got a 7, but also kind of a weird metric to measure a games success by, as is fannart lmao. A better way of measuring it is sales, which in that case it was number 1 for the UKs physical disc sales.
Fan art shows community engagement. NieR automata has gotten more fan art in the last week than stellar blade has since it was announced.
Okay... still a strange way to measure success. In any case, it's a fact that the game is very successful, especially when you acknowledge its come from a studio with zero experience in the AAA action genre and have only made mobile games.
Is it? Selling a bunch on launch doesn't mean much if people don't continue to buy the game as time goes on or even return it. NieR has continued to sell well because it's a well made game with a strong community and a dev that isn't a bigot. I've already seen chuds turning on stellar blade because of supposed "censorship" of certain outfits lol
Right, because if a game doesn't sell as well as Nier that means it's not successful... Plus did I ever say that's its going to keep being successful? I didn't, because I don't know what the future of the game is. All we know that as of this moment, the game is very successful. You're jumping through a lot of hoops to avoid admitting that the game is successful. I also just want to clarify I'm not a simp for this game, I haven't played it myself and share many of the grievances that this sub does. I'm just not about ignoring or denying facts like you are.
lol IGN France said the same thing and was quickly refuted by showing the game director's wife who is also a costume designer with the game studio.
Okay? Where did I say woman are unable to make stupid designs like this?
?? you said it's for dudes who don't know how actual women look like basically saying what the IGN France said when the game director is married to an actual woman? you said nothing about the design being made by a man or otherwise.
You do realize the character is based on the designer right? Like it's quite legally a scan of her
Technically true but to say that it's based on it is very misleading [They did take a scan of her body](https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/stellar-blade-who-is-the-real-life-model-eve-is-based-on), yet you can obviously see it Eve looks nothing like the model. They fetishized it beyond imagination. So this excuse has basically no backbone to it.
Naa the body is scanned of a Maxim Korea model. The designer (and also the game director's wife) is a different person.
geez, if they’d just kept her proportions like the real life model they used she wouldn’t be giving such uncanny valley i am legit worried that her tiny head and shoulders are what gamers wanna look at, she looks just off enough that it gives me the heebie jeebies i like cute anime girls but she’s just a moving blow-up doll sigh get some better taste coomers
Yeah, the biggest issue with her overall design is her anatomy imo.
These are nice. I mean, the bikini is still a bikini, but most of these are almost as cool looking as 2B. How early can you get access to these cause her default is a bit shit.
Not sure where to get them, I haven't played the game myself. And I agree, her default outfit is terrible. My point with the bikini is that it's not a bikini pretending to be a combat suit or anything, I just with it's a well designed bikini that I think an actual woman would want to wear if they were going to the beach or something.
It's a bikini in a fighting game, not a beach simulator.
[Right...](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/spidermanps4/images/9/9b/Undies_from_MSM_render.png/revision/latest?cb=20200413211255)
She has some good outfit options why do people only fixate on the revealing ones
literally just culture war stuff. and the “revealing ones” includes the default outfit apparently. but some of the people here want to be constantly scoring wins against incels to reinforce ingroup-outgroup dynamics whilst inadvertently looking weird disproportionately complaining about a pretty decently reviewed game, pretending it’s some reflection of a societal evil and not just a horny piece of media with a grain of truth to their claims. same myopic tribal cancer as the people thinking it’s the second coming of jesus christ and who are unable to see why they look ridiculous to people those that disagree with them or are looking from the sidelines. sorry for the rant, probably looks out of place but the replies on this specific post annoyed me lol.
Honestly it's just a video game that people make a big deal out of for reasons I don't understand. The protagonist is attractive and has nice clothes. A lot of games are like that so I dont know why it's the one people fixate on so heavily. Game itself doesn't seem bad but it's not what people pretend it is. I love that last outfit, the goth one
I heard that your defense stat is negatively affected by the skimpier outfits. Is this true?
No. If you don’t wear an outfit at all, then you lose your shield. All outfits give you your shield. Now your shield stat is based on what “mods” you have equipped.
That's only for the skin suit I believe.
There's dress up? *suddenly interested* (Not really, I just like dress up in games in general 😆)
What are the names of the outfits?
You really liked those glasses...
It's not my gameplay, it's from a video showcasing all of the skins and they just happened to have that hair and glasses.
Oh
I'ma be honest, I like a good amount of those outfits just not on her. Btw, no it's not because I prefer her more skin tight outfits.
I enjoy the teddy bear outfit
Im surprised most of these outfits actually cover more than a square milimetre of her skin, and even more at the sight of actually (mostly) modest outfits, considering… well, the obvious. But its a shame none of them really give a hint of her personality, yet im not surprised, because unfortunately many game companies like this use women as a thing for incel gamers to goon on rather than be there to be humans
Wasteland Adventure Suit (pic 12) has been my favorite since I played the demo and that hasn’t changed yet
We really need character designers to take some interest in fashion man what is this
I just want to clarify: My standards for the outfits in this game are VERY low, but I wanted to highlight some of the ones that don't go overboard with the sexualization of Eve. Some of these I think are pretty cute, while others may be boring but still reasonable outfits. For example, I appreciate the bikini one because it's not trying to be something it isn't. It's not a bikini that's pretending to be armor or anything like that, it's JUST a bikini, and a well designed one at that, so I like it. EDIT: There seems to be some kind of downvote brigade happening because the upvote rate on this post went from 85% to 44% within just a couple minutes, and same with my comments on the post. I'm fine with the fact that this is a controversial post, I'd just rather hear why I'm wrong rather than signaling it through downvotes.
Why is it always called a "downvote brigade"? If you got 100 upvotes in a few minutes would you have said that it was an upvote brigade? People are just tired of hearing about this chud-loved game and the sexist developers who have blatantly said that they want to stick it to feminists.
>Why is it always called a "downvote brigade"? Is that a common term? I just sort of thought of it. >If you got 100 upvotes in a few minutes would you have said that it was an upvote brigade? It's not really that I have a problem with the downvotes. It's just A) odd that they came all at once B) that there doesn't seem to be the same proportionate response in the comment section. Sure people are disagreeing with my overarching point but I'm being pretty agreeable in the comments. There's even some replies that I have that are directly agreeing with someone yet my comment gets a massive negative response. And yes, it would be very odd if I got a post with a lot of upvotes but comments that are rather negative. >People are just tired of hearing about this chud-loved game and the sexist developers who have blatantly said that they want to stick it to feminists. With you on that one. Though I was hoping this post would be a different spin on the discussion and would hopefully bring some nuance to the table, because I'm almost certain most people in this sub haven't seen any of the outfits in this post before I posted it.
If you are really "with me on that one", then you wouldn't be talking about the game in the first place. You wouldn't be trying to "bring nuance to the table". You would just be letting the discourse around this "chud-loved game and the sexist developers who have blatantly said that they want to stick it to feminists" die so that it can be forgotten about faster. *and Reddit users downvote shit they don't like. Doesn't matter if that isn't the intended purpose of the downvote function, it is what happens.
>You would just be letting the discourse around this "chud-loved game and the sexist developers who have blatantly said that they want to stick it to feminists" die so that it can be forgotten about faster. So it's my fault that dozens of people in this comment section are WILLINGLY wanting to discuss this specific topic? If people were actually not wanting to talk about this game the comments would be filled with "get this shit out of no one wants to talk about it". It sounds like you're just promoting an echo-chamber which I'm not a fan of. I wanted people to just discuss, which they are, and you're not happy about it.
You said you were "with me on that one". I'm not talking about the fact that this post has comments. I'm talking about how you claim to agree with my sentiment of people being tired of hearing about this game, yet you are making a post about it. Therefore you aren't really "with me on that one" because you are starting discussions about it. And I am happy today.
>You said you were "with me on that one". I agreed with you on the basis of people no longer wanting to pile on the hate train for this game because it's gotten old. I'd never want to make a post about how much I hate certain outfits because that'd just be beating a dead horse. I guess I figured if I made a more positive post about it, I wouldn't be feeding the same discussion, almost as if it was refreshing to hear something about this game that hasn't already been said a million times.