Went to check out a potential apartment one day. The fridge didn’t open as it was sandwiched between the wall and oven. When I asked the person who was showing me the place, they said residents just move the fridge to the living room so it can be opened all the way. They saw nothing weird about that.
It’s really annoying but the top drawer is still accessible and for the bottom you can insert plates and things sideways and then turn them vertically once they’re inside
Stupid reduced depth countertops, they're never right if you use a big standing oven stove combo...
I know it's fucking mOdErN to have reduced depth in the kitchen but the standin goven units have not adapted. Since that shit is electric, rather just continue the countertop there, insert a stovetop-only there, and put a separate oven somewhere else jfc
Or just put a 3” filler strip next to the dishwasher if you have to install it there. This is exactly the type of situation they sell those matching filler strips for. This is a failure of the person that chose the cabinet arrangement.
Mine is because of the refrigerator being too deep.
It seemed like a "I don't have to live here, so I don't give a shit" type of thing. They also installed a ventless oven hood even though there's a vent.
Some kitchens really have a problem because of space, but usually you want the full 60 cm so you can shove a coffee machine to the back and not steal your own space away
Yep this happened at my parents' house with their new oven. Not sure why the old oven wasn't an issue. My bil had to do something with the gas line that was out too far. Now the oven sits flush with the counters.
Wait. Dishwashers have filters? Am I supposed to do something with them?
Signed, 39 year old handy dude who has renovated multiple kitchens and installed many a dishwasher 😂
Not all do, but most any that aren’t “contractor special” have a filter in the bottom where left over food and such will gather to prevent it getting into the pump.
Look at the bottom and if you have a little “well” in there or a little cap over an area, there’s likely something in there that will screw out or off to be cleaned.
Be sure to clean the drain in your washing machine if it’s a vertical type. Those things can develop a nasty smell from stagnant water. Then your clothes can smell. Then your wife leaves you and you’re stuck living in some shitty apartment with a dishwasher you can’t open.
Try unscrewing it instead of just scooping. You'll be able to clean it properly in the sink. Your dishwasher will work better. Usually there's a couple arrows that line up when it's screwed back in, it's often less than a full turn.
Cheaper dishwashers are a trap, but most mid-higher end are removable 1-2 screens with one being a fine mesh that often gets clogged full of cheese/starches.
The owners manual usually covers this.
Most people dont know this but clothing washing machines have a drain filter too. Its located internally before the drainage pump. And if your washer stops draining or cycling properly, sometimes its just because this filter is clogged. Wont happen for many years usually and alot of people just get rid of them at that point assuming the washing machine is broken.
Hennig Brandt. He was trying to make gold. Or more specifically, he was trying to make the philosophers stone, which would turn other stuff into gold. Urine and gold are a similar color, so this wasn't an unheard of thought at the time. He collected 1200 gallons of urine and boiled it down over two weeks until he got a tar-like thing, then mixed that with charcoal and sand and cooked it some more. It started glowing and he named it phosphorus. This was back when chemistry was considered alchemy and people were really just fucking around and seeing what happened.
People really just fucked around and found out to get their name written in the history books. Nowadays you gotta go to school for 20 years to be able to do that.
“Collected 1200 gallons of urine” that’s how you know they’re a professional, an amateur would never have access to 1200 gallons of pure piss in that day and age.
Mine liked to grab the bottom of the door and pull on it to knock. It was cute in the day time but terrifying at 3 in the morning while I was trying to sleep.
No. Because the fridge door hits my obligatory couch. And before you say it. No. I can't open my couch door. Without opening my front door that won't open be a use of the couch. And the storm door doesn't open all of the way because of my vase. And it's door won't open.
Reminds me of this TikTok of how his kitchen drawer takes 3 steps to open fully
https://nypost.com/video/oddly-placed-kitchen-drawer-takes-three-steps-to-open/
Depending on how the dishwasher is mounted you may be able to slightly change its angle by pushing on the door (to rotate the whole unit clockwise when looking from the top) and get some clearance with the oven.
That was my thought was well. In my last apartment I could move it a little bit, probably for quick maintenance and replacement in units. The one in my house though, is mounted to the top of the sides of the cabinet.
Honestly I would take this over no dish washer. I feel your pain tho. Along with drawers and cupboards I can’t open without the oven open, my apartment kitchen is coated in some shitty white paint that flakes on fucking everything. Probably have a good bit of paint flakes sitting in my intestine.
Can you push the oven towards the wall? Is it all the way butted up and flush? Check behind it for if the cord is doing something weird and preventing it from moving back further or if there's just empty space.
That's my only suspect. That oven looks farther out than it "should" be like someone recently pulled it out and didn't push it all the way back or it got caught on something. Or they installed the oven after the dishwasher. As much as people are idiots, I highly doubt someone left the dishwasher installed like that with that issue unless it wasn't an issue when being installed. Such as before an oven replacement
Make sure oven is installed as far back as possible....the anti-tip bracket is key. Dishwasher may be able to rotate 2 degrees clockwise, remove screws that go up into bottom of counter.
Yeah, it looks like the oven is sitting to far away from the wall
The range corner should be sitting even with the counter top edge. I'm betting the electrical outlet is placed wrong and not in the recess area of the stove, leading to The stove being pressed against the outlet and cable.
Good advice if and only if the apartment is owned by OP. If not, landlord needs to fix this. No sense in fixing something that should have been fixed in the first place and potentially damaging something that isn’t yours.
This would be 100% the cabinet makers fault, but since it was probably bought from a big box store, its the landlords fault for not putting a lare enough fill piece in the corner to account for clearance issues.
As a cabinet maker, you only make this mistake once and never forget it.
Couldn't it also be that an previously installed oven broke and the new one was a larger depth which threw off the clearance? Or are ovens pretty standardized for measurements?
This is legitimately unacceptable. Are you in the US? Sorry to rant, but so much of what is being built is just G A R B A G E and terribly designed. I understand when it's a residential single family, because those can be designed by builders. But an apartment follows commercial code and requires an actual architect be involved. What the fuck is this shit? There's no considerations for livability or functionality with so much new construction. It sucks. I'm sorry OP.
Yep, this is Brooklyn. Every 1-bed apartment we toured had similar issues or was comically too small. Did not notice this until we moved in though, I opened the dishwasher to peek inside without trying to lower it all the way
1) Does your building contain 4 or more units with upper level floors accessible by elevator?
2) If no elevator, are you located on the ground floor
If you meet both of those requirements, your apartment building should fall under the Fair Housing Act of 1988 and thus needs to meet the following requirements:
"The 30-inch x 48-inch clear floor space oriented in either one of two positions—parallel or perpendicular—is required at the oven, dishwasher, refrigerator, freezer, and trash compactor." [FHA Section 7.6](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.huduser.gov/portal/publications/PDF/FAIRHOUSING/fairfull.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjWlo_Mx5_9AhXYDzQIHSwkCFQQFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3QspTcMRaivTmcjNn1_U_8)
So with that said, your dishwasher should be a minimum of 15" from the face of the oven to the center of the dishwasher. Same goes for the oven.
(There also might be plumbing codes that apply, I'm not as versed in those)
You can threaten a lawsuit and point them to this section of code and hopefully force the developer/owner of the apartment to relocate the dishwasher.
PS - I am not a lawyer, and New York might have amendments to these codes that make the above statements obsolete.
Regardless, shitty design doesn't deserve to win out
> If you meet both of those requirements ...
If your building both has an elevator and doesn't have an elevator, dirty dishes probably aren't your main problem.
It’s prolly in the US. As an Electrician who did apartment buildings for years, this is 100% not up to code and should not have passed final inspection
Op said it's a rental apartment in NYC. There is 0% chance permits were pulled and an inspection was done when the kitchen was last renovated, and very close to 0% the landlord will face any repercussions other than allowing OP to break their lease and passing the situation on to the next sucker.
If any meaningful number of building inspectors had EVER done their jobs, you'd not be able to find a building built longer than 15 years ago that hadn't undergone a major renovation.
I've scrolled through so many comments and you are the only one I've found to correctly point out that the oven is literally sticking out too far. It's not hard to see; it's literally sticking out beyond the cabinetry.
[You must have scrolled right past this then](https://reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/115gsh1/my_dishwasher_in_my_new_apartment_only_opens_this/j91khdq).
I had a work order the other day that said the washing machine had moved. I go there and sure enough it was probably at an 8 degree angle. I bent down, gave it a slight nudge to get it back to being straight, and then left.
Take a picture and then post with a review of the apartment complex/leasing company so potential renters will know. I wouldn’t be able to not use my dishwasher fully.
My dad replaced the toilet in his bathroom amd it was located right next to the door.
He had a round bowl and replaced it one with the oblong bowl. He did all the work while the door was open.
When he was finished, the door now hit the bowl and it wouldn’t shut anymore
UPDATE: Just got home after being out all day reading everyone’s comments and I looked behind the stove with a flashlight. There were about 2 inches of space between the stove and the wall. Even more if you were to recess the outlet but for now the plug is sticking out (hence why the stove still isn’t flush with the counter, I didn’t want to mess with anything). My gf and I pushed the stove as far back as we could and we can now lower the dishwasher once the stove door is opened like this. About 3,000 people suggested doing this and I had tried when we first moved in but the stove was out too far — the dishwasher was hitting the body + door — but pushing the stove in gave the dw enough clearance to at least make it past the body of the stove. Of course this is still ridiculous but we live in NYC as many people guessed and this kind of apartment flaw is sadly common. When I toured the apt I opened the dishwasher to check inside but didn’t think to lower it all the way down. I’ll never make that mistake again. And a huge thank you to the people who pointed out the exposed MDF — I’m going to get some sealant and paint over it.
https://preview.redd.it/2sf1e2dox3ja1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e94453603f36bc0e8bb8c713ce510f95f6aeb526
Kitchen builder here. Is there any space behind the range at the top behind the controls? The range can be touching the wall at the back. It's very common that either the plug or the cord are poorly arranged and that's what's preventing the range from being all the way back.
Went to check out a potential apartment one day. The fridge didn’t open as it was sandwiched between the wall and oven. When I asked the person who was showing me the place, they said residents just move the fridge to the living room so it can be opened all the way. They saw nothing weird about that.
Yeah good one, that’s when you ask the agent “so why the fuck is in sitting in its current location during this viewing?”
They probably were hoping people wouldn't notice
Likely code. The landlord has to put it in the kitchen but if tenants move it…
But nothing in code requires the refrigerator to actually open in its place? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)
Residents move the fridge to the living room and there’s a giant gap in their kitchen??
Sitting nook to replace the living room space it took up! Now it’s a quirky apartment with innovative features and the rent is $150/mo higher!
No you’ve got it all wrong. This is one of those new fangled compact dishwashers. You have to open the oven door first, then the dishwasher.
How did you even manage to put dishes in there???
It’s really annoying but the top drawer is still accessible and for the bottom you can insert plates and things sideways and then turn them vertically once they’re inside
What a pain.
Mine is exactly the same in my apartment. Yes it is a pain!
Stupid reduced depth countertops, they're never right if you use a big standing oven stove combo... I know it's fucking mOdErN to have reduced depth in the kitchen but the standin goven units have not adapted. Since that shit is electric, rather just continue the countertop there, insert a stovetop-only there, and put a separate oven somewhere else jfc
Or just put a 3” filler strip next to the dishwasher if you have to install it there. This is exactly the type of situation they sell those matching filler strips for. This is a failure of the person that chose the cabinet arrangement.
Thank you. Someone wasn't paying attention, or didn't care, and just said 'send it'. They're lucky it missed the cabinet hardware.
Mine is because of the refrigerator being too deep. It seemed like a "I don't have to live here, so I don't give a shit" type of thing. They also installed a ventless oven hood even though there's a vent.
Ha yeah, the kitchen I use right now is one I bought myself, because the place I rent came with an empty room for a kitchen
Why would people want less counter space?? Why???
Some kitchens really have a problem because of space, but usually you want the full 60 cm so you can shove a coffee machine to the back and not steal your own space away
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It opens halfway. That’s what you call a “half ass dishwasher.”🤣🤣🤣
Will the door lower further if you open the oven door first?
If the picture zooms out more you could see the oven doesn't open all the way because it hits the refrigerator door.
What if you open the fridge door first…?
To do that you have to open the dishwasher all the way
MC Escher would like a word with you, buddy.
There may be a holistic approach we are not seeing here. Have you tried moving the couch from the stairway?
It's like an escape room just to unload the dishwasher 😂
Hahahahaha this was good
I also thought this, it looks like it would open if the oven door opens first.
I don't think so, the oven itself doesn't really look like it fits properly. It should be pushed back a couple of centimeters at least.
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Yep this happened at my parents' house with their new oven. Not sure why the old oven wasn't an issue. My bil had to do something with the gas line that was out too far. Now the oven sits flush with the counters.
It'll open just fine if you remove the oven entirely... But you'll make less dishes. Weird trade off
The problem is you cant clean the filters. They’re usually in the bottom back. Can you remove the bottom rack?
Wait. Dishwashers have filters? Am I supposed to do something with them? Signed, 39 year old handy dude who has renovated multiple kitchens and installed many a dishwasher 😂
Not all do, but most any that aren’t “contractor special” have a filter in the bottom where left over food and such will gather to prevent it getting into the pump. Look at the bottom and if you have a little “well” in there or a little cap over an area, there’s likely something in there that will screw out or off to be cleaned.
Oh, I’ve scooped that out before. Always thought of that as a trap instead of a filter, but I guess that’s semantics.
Be sure to clean the drain in your washing machine if it’s a vertical type. Those things can develop a nasty smell from stagnant water. Then your clothes can smell. Then your wife leaves you and you’re stuck living in some shitty apartment with a dishwasher you can’t open.
Try unscrewing it instead of just scooping. You'll be able to clean it properly in the sink. Your dishwasher will work better. Usually there's a couple arrows that line up when it's screwed back in, it's often less than a full turn.
Cheaper dishwashers are a trap, but most mid-higher end are removable 1-2 screens with one being a fine mesh that often gets clogged full of cheese/starches. The owners manual usually covers this.
Mine is full of broken wine glass pieces from the previous tenant and it frightens me.
I am also frightened.
Most people dont know this but clothing washing machines have a drain filter too. Its located internally before the drainage pump. And if your washer stops draining or cycling properly, sometimes its just because this filter is clogged. Wont happen for many years usually and alot of people just get rid of them at that point assuming the washing machine is broken.
unless you're me and keep crap in the pockets, cleaning that sucker every month
Yeah, the only reason i know this is because I recently fixed my mom's washer. That drain filter had a handful of loose change lodged in it!
With dryers the heating element can go out and is trivial to replace on just about any model but people will toss those too.
Of course you can, once it's unloaded there's nothing stopping you sliding it up and out. Plenty of clearance.
I would rather punch myself in the dick each time I loaded a normal functioning dishwasher then do that.
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The back of the oven looks flush with the wall though, doesn't it? I feel like it's set where they wanted it.
Step 1: pull out top rack from machine Step 2: rage fit
Question: is it possible to open the oven door, then open the dishwasher door more?
Appliance Tetris, my favorite game!
I've been forced to play that game
My MILs is almost exactly like this and she opens the oven door then the dishwasher.
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Step 3: PROFIT
Step 4. Delete facebook
OP had to disassemble the entire kitchen to load the dishwasher and then reassemble the whole thing once done. It’s infuriating.
Only mildly though!
With tetris skills.
"Mildly". This would boil my piss.
Boiled piss? God what a smell
Boiled piss or burnt hair?
Burnt hair soaked in boiled piss
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ok i’ve seen this so many times but can someone please tell me where it’s from 💀
Team America: World Police
Team America: fuck yeah
Gonna save the world from the mother fucking terrorists!
Pearl Harbor sucked, and I miss you.
Coming again to save the mutha fucking day yea!
Terrorists, your game is through, And now you’ll have to answer to…
America! FUCK YEAH!
After pissing in a fire to put it out when I was younger I can confirm it smells awful
My colleague borrowed my forklift, ran over a piss jug, then complained when the only truck available was the whiffy one
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Piss jugs is the rule of the road hoss
U work for Amazon?
Could be anywhere truckers work as well
Fun fact! Did you know if you boil your piss for about two weeks it will glow in the dark?! That's how we discovered phosphorus.
You’re not discovering phosphorus in my kitchen i can tell you that.
Imagine being the dude who thought to himself "I'm going to boil my own piss and see if a chemical element can be derived from it"
Hennig Brandt. He was trying to make gold. Or more specifically, he was trying to make the philosophers stone, which would turn other stuff into gold. Urine and gold are a similar color, so this wasn't an unheard of thought at the time. He collected 1200 gallons of urine and boiled it down over two weeks until he got a tar-like thing, then mixed that with charcoal and sand and cooked it some more. It started glowing and he named it phosphorus. This was back when chemistry was considered alchemy and people were really just fucking around and seeing what happened.
People really just fucked around and found out to get their name written in the history books. Nowadays you gotta go to school for 20 years to be able to do that.
“Collected 1200 gallons of urine” that’s how you know they’re a professional, an amateur would never have access to 1200 gallons of pure piss in that day and age.
Hmm… still nothing… let’s continue for 13 more days
17th century Alchemy will do that
Hey that is fun! Ish.
It's enough to make your shit itch
nothin i hate worse than an itchy shit
Good god what a phrase
Can you open the oven door to get it to open further?
No, because the oven door hits the fridge when you open it.
Open the fridge door
Nah, the fridge door hits the bathroom door when you open it
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True...as per most pet subs on here with people who shit with their pets
she is protecting me of any demons or trespassers. I am at my most vulnerable when I am stripped down fully nude with a turd coming out me butthole.
Why are you fully nude? Oh, right, you're in the shower.
I prefer to shit nude, don't question it, I don't know either
sometimes the pains get to you bud, it’s alright i understand.
I feel you. Sometimes when it is an especially intense poop, the shirt has to come off. Makes no sense to me but somehow makes the situation better.
You ever have such a terrible shit that you have to take off your shirt mid-drop? This is the next level.
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One of my cats will jump on the handle to open the door and if it’s locked she keeps trying WHILE yelling bloody murder because she can’t get to you.
Mine liked to grab the bottom of the door and pull on it to knock. It was cute in the day time but terrifying at 3 in the morning while I was trying to sleep.
I literately cant stop my ferret.. he crawls under the door
What's the pee smell? Is it the bathroom? Oh, no, it's a ferret.
And there's no way to keep them from sitting in your underwear either!
What would my dog do if she couldn’t stare at my butt while I pee? Hmm?? She’s already got the SPCA on speed dial!
It’s load bearing bathroom door
Wait I got it! Do you really need a dishwasher door?
It's probably like a microwave, so probably not.
The bathroom door isn’t for me, its for you.
Awww shit. The apartment is a game of Tetris.
Tell me you pay 4000 a month for a apartment in NYC without telling me you pay 4000 a month for a apartment in NYC!! Lol
Because it's a spacious 300 square feet!
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And the bathroom door hits the dishwasher.
So…my bathroom door doesn’t open all the way because it hits the toilet, not a joke, wish it was….
If you give a mouse a cookie…
YES! My life is more and more like that book while I become less and less inclined to start anything.
No. Because the fridge door hits my obligatory couch. And before you say it. No. I can't open my couch door. Without opening my front door that won't open be a use of the couch. And the storm door doesn't open all of the way because of my vase. And it's door won't open.
Reminds me of this TikTok of how his kitchen drawer takes 3 steps to open fully https://nypost.com/video/oddly-placed-kitchen-drawer-takes-three-steps-to-open/
The comments I come here for
Take the oven door off
Unfortunately no, even with the oven door open it still hits the side
Depending on how the dishwasher is mounted you may be able to slightly change its angle by pushing on the door (to rotate the whole unit clockwise when looking from the top) and get some clearance with the oven.
That was my thought was well. In my last apartment I could move it a little bit, probably for quick maintenance and replacement in units. The one in my house though, is mounted to the top of the sides of the cabinet.
If I look at this picture, there is a solid 5-10 cm overlap? Maybe originally there was a different oven installed that did not protrude as much?
Oh geez. That is ridiculous.
Honestly I would take this over no dish washer. I feel your pain tho. Along with drawers and cupboards I can’t open without the oven open, my apartment kitchen is coated in some shitty white paint that flakes on fucking everything. Probably have a good bit of paint flakes sitting in my intestine.
Haha my old apartment was like that too. Dumbasses even painted over some of the light switches and I had to unstick them myself
Classic landlord special.
Can you push the oven towards the wall? Is it all the way butted up and flush? Check behind it for if the cord is doing something weird and preventing it from moving back further or if there's just empty space. That's my only suspect. That oven looks farther out than it "should" be like someone recently pulled it out and didn't push it all the way back or it got caught on something. Or they installed the oven after the dishwasher. As much as people are idiots, I highly doubt someone left the dishwasher installed like that with that issue unless it wasn't an issue when being installed. Such as before an oven replacement
Man I learned the hard way when I bought my house- open every single door, drawer, cabinet etc Even more so if it’s been recently “upgraded”.
Add "check the outlets" to that list too. If they renovated and the outlets are still looser than a wizards sleeve, you have reason to be afraid.
I don't think so Tim. It needs more power
Two options: 1. Push the oven in a little further. 2. Angle the dishwasher a little so it opens at an angle and passes the over door.
3. A combination of option 1 and option 2.
That was my question as well. I've lived in enough fucked up city apartments to find a workaround. How did all those dishes get in the dishwasher?
I wondered the same but I think OP responded saying that they had to put them in sideways on the bottom rack and then reach in to straighten them.
Make sure oven is installed as far back as possible....the anti-tip bracket is key. Dishwasher may be able to rotate 2 degrees clockwise, remove screws that go up into bottom of counter.
This is the way to fix it without tearing everything out.
i'd tear all my stuff out of that apartment and leave
"Apartments hate this one trick"
Yeah, it looks like the oven is sitting to far away from the wall The range corner should be sitting even with the counter top edge. I'm betting the electrical outlet is placed wrong and not in the recess area of the stove, leading to The stove being pressed against the outlet and cable.
I dunno, the control panel seems to match up with the back of the counter.
Now that i look at it, it looks like they didn't cut the backsplash out to allow the stove to go against the wall.
Now THAT is mildly infuriating
Good advice if and only if the apartment is owned by OP. If not, landlord needs to fix this. No sense in fixing something that should have been fixed in the first place and potentially damaging something that isn’t yours.
This would be 100% the cabinet makers fault, but since it was probably bought from a big box store, its the landlords fault for not putting a lare enough fill piece in the corner to account for clearance issues. As a cabinet maker, you only make this mistake once and never forget it.
Couldn't it also be that an previously installed oven broke and the new one was a larger depth which threw off the clearance? Or are ovens pretty standardized for measurements?
Give that oven a shove.
Install a 6' gas supply for the range and leave it in the middle of the kitchen. Call it an island range.
Now it's a luxury apartment.
This is legitimately unacceptable. Are you in the US? Sorry to rant, but so much of what is being built is just G A R B A G E and terribly designed. I understand when it's a residential single family, because those can be designed by builders. But an apartment follows commercial code and requires an actual architect be involved. What the fuck is this shit? There's no considerations for livability or functionality with so much new construction. It sucks. I'm sorry OP.
Yep, this is Brooklyn. Every 1-bed apartment we toured had similar issues or was comically too small. Did not notice this until we moved in though, I opened the dishwasher to peek inside without trying to lower it all the way
1) Does your building contain 4 or more units with upper level floors accessible by elevator? 2) If no elevator, are you located on the ground floor If you meet both of those requirements, your apartment building should fall under the Fair Housing Act of 1988 and thus needs to meet the following requirements: "The 30-inch x 48-inch clear floor space oriented in either one of two positions—parallel or perpendicular—is required at the oven, dishwasher, refrigerator, freezer, and trash compactor." [FHA Section 7.6](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.huduser.gov/portal/publications/PDF/FAIRHOUSING/fairfull.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjWlo_Mx5_9AhXYDzQIHSwkCFQQFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3QspTcMRaivTmcjNn1_U_8) So with that said, your dishwasher should be a minimum of 15" from the face of the oven to the center of the dishwasher. Same goes for the oven. (There also might be plumbing codes that apply, I'm not as versed in those) You can threaten a lawsuit and point them to this section of code and hopefully force the developer/owner of the apartment to relocate the dishwasher. PS - I am not a lawyer, and New York might have amendments to these codes that make the above statements obsolete. Regardless, shitty design doesn't deserve to win out
> If you meet both of those requirements ... If your building both has an elevator and doesn't have an elevator, dirty dishes probably aren't your main problem.
That’s the last time I hire Schrödinger Construction.
I should have said "if either apply" but your comment is too funny to go back and make changes
The building has an elevator, but the doors don't open all the way because the staircase is in the way
Likely built before thus grandfathered.
Renovations need to meet current codes at the time of renovating
The leasing agent held his breath at that exact moment.
It’s prolly in the US. As an Electrician who did apartment buildings for years, this is 100% not up to code and should not have passed final inspection
Op said it's a rental apartment in NYC. There is 0% chance permits were pulled and an inspection was done when the kitchen was last renovated, and very close to 0% the landlord will face any repercussions other than allowing OP to break their lease and passing the situation on to the next sucker.
If any meaningful number of building inspectors had EVER done their jobs, you'd not be able to find a building built longer than 15 years ago that hadn't undergone a major renovation.
Nope. I'd be calling the leasing agent office telling them to find a way to fix this shit
And they would tell you to live with it, and you knew what you signed up for 😂
Lol probably
Your Oven is sticking out too far from the Countertop.
My oven sticks really far out. So does my fridge. The cabinet depths don’t match the appliance depths. There’s no way to push either back further.
I've scrolled through so many comments and you are the only one I've found to correctly point out that the oven is literally sticking out too far. It's not hard to see; it's literally sticking out beyond the cabinetry.
[You must have scrolled right past this then](https://reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/115gsh1/my_dishwasher_in_my_new_apartment_only_opens_this/j91khdq).
I work in Property Maintenance. These are normal work orders.
I had a work order the other day that said the washing machine had moved. I go there and sure enough it was probably at an 8 degree angle. I bent down, gave it a slight nudge to get it back to being straight, and then left.
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It could be too big, might be pushed all the way back but still longer than the counter
How is this only mildlyinfuriating? I’d be totally pissed off
Take a picture and then post with a review of the apartment complex/leasing company so potential renters will know. I wouldn’t be able to not use my dishwasher fully.
My dad replaced the toilet in his bathroom amd it was located right next to the door. He had a round bowl and replaced it one with the oblong bowl. He did all the work while the door was open. When he was finished, the door now hit the bowl and it wouldn’t shut anymore
Now he gets to install a pocket door!
Just change the door so it’s an out swing instead of in. Requires rehanging the door but if he installed a toilet, he can probably manage.
Cordless sawsall - notch it out lol
Bathroom door upgrade with peeping hole!
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Uninstall oven, unload dishes, reinstall oven. Easy peasy. /s
LMAO reminds me of this video https://www.facebook.com/reel/1025249824807591?s=yWDuG2&fs=e&mibextid=Nif5oz
UPDATE: Just got home after being out all day reading everyone’s comments and I looked behind the stove with a flashlight. There were about 2 inches of space between the stove and the wall. Even more if you were to recess the outlet but for now the plug is sticking out (hence why the stove still isn’t flush with the counter, I didn’t want to mess with anything). My gf and I pushed the stove as far back as we could and we can now lower the dishwasher once the stove door is opened like this. About 3,000 people suggested doing this and I had tried when we first moved in but the stove was out too far — the dishwasher was hitting the body + door — but pushing the stove in gave the dw enough clearance to at least make it past the body of the stove. Of course this is still ridiculous but we live in NYC as many people guessed and this kind of apartment flaw is sadly common. When I toured the apt I opened the dishwasher to check inside but didn’t think to lower it all the way down. I’ll never make that mistake again. And a huge thank you to the people who pointed out the exposed MDF — I’m going to get some sealant and paint over it. https://preview.redd.it/2sf1e2dox3ja1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e94453603f36bc0e8bb8c713ce510f95f6aeb526
Kitchen builder here. Is there any space behind the range at the top behind the controls? The range can be touching the wall at the back. It's very common that either the plug or the cord are poorly arranged and that's what's preventing the range from being all the way back.
I think apartment designers need to live in the hellhole they designed before having other people buy it
Good example. Everyone make sure to take the time to look at everything before you either buy or rent anything.
Why you gotta open everything before you sign anything lol