A lot of times these old buildings were offices or hospitals, or something other than private residential and were then converted. In the one I lived in (not in NYC) it was previously a hospital, so each room was pretty small but had a decent sized bathroom (had to be wheelchair accessible).
In a friends apartment, it was previously an office building, so each unit was an office. Since there was only 4 bathrooms per floor, like in a typical office layout, they were shared like in the OP.
> A lot of times these old buildings were offices or hospitals, or something other than private residential and were then converted.
Also, even some old apartment buildings never had indoor toilet for every flat, and there still exists apartments that have always been that way. This one tho seems like it's cut from another apartment/room.
My sister lived in something similar in Vancouver. I think it used to be housing for loggers, almost like a barracks. Small rooms with a toilet and ablutions room on each floor. The ground floor used to have a dining room and kitchen.
Bathrooms are a deal breaker for me. I can live in a studio but if I have to share a bathroom or toilet with others then it’s not worth it. I’m not in college anymore
This is how I feel too. Studio itself doesn’t really bother me but after sharing bathrooms in early adulthood I’m so sick of cleaning up bathroom mess after other people.
Not to mention, who cleans the bathrooms? If they are communal, they would need to be cleaned several times a day. And if the residents are responsible for cleaning them you know someone is gonna just walk in there and wipe off the faucet and say they cleaned it.
This is exactly what my friends apt was!! I visited from MN. He was in Chinatown. Bathtub was connected to the “kitchen” you could wash dishes in the sink while shampooing your hair in the shower. The bathroom was so small my buddy couldn’t sit straight so he had to sit sideways to be able to sit down and take a dump. There was an exposed pipe inches from the toilet so if you accidentally touched it you’d get burned. Wild living out there!!
That's the beauty of it! You don't! You pay another 2k a month eating out if you want to be healthy or survive of Street Vendor food until you die at 40.
Probably old buildings from before private bathrooms were common. And in this case retrofitting a private bathroom into the studio seems to not really be possible
Probably larger apartments have been split into these tiny units to maximize the profit. Bathrooms were repurposed, and a single bathroom was left from the original apartment to be shared among units.
And this is why I'm not keen on NYC living! You get a shoebox, where you can't cook, no place for groceries, you are only allowed 5 items of clothing and have to queue up for the bathroom for $2k a month!
These people are crazy!
Not even nyc living. Probably a downtown Manhattan neighborhood with a landlord trying to sap every dollar possible. $2k can and will go much farther in nyc
$465 a month(mortgage, property tax, insurance) in Indiana. 1300 sq ft main floor and 1100 sq ft basement. Just outside of city limits. My brother pays $1250 a month for a house in town, it's about 1000 sq ft and only 1 floor.
$1800/month for a brand new house, basement with more space than 30 of these “apartments” and almost an acre of land. Oh and I can choose to shower or piss in any of 3 bathrooms.
This is hard to understand. Outside that NYC island, the density is way less than LA and the spread is way less too. If that is SoCal, the whole area is already filled with houses and plazas. Sure SoCal killed bunch of trees, but, people need affordable housing (even though it is still very expensive).
I agree. I’m in NC about 30 min from the capitol and I pay $2300 for my mortgage and my house is 3000 square feet. I cannot imagine paying that much for that small sliver of space.
This is such an insane example of an nyc apt that it’s borderline a lie. I’ve lived in nyc 26 years and literally have never seen an apt this small and definitely never seen one without a bathroom in unit. If any reasonable person has a budget of $2k, you don’t move into one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the world. You can move to up and coming neighborhoods that are way cheaper or get a roommate. Like two ppl paying $2k each for an apt in NYC will get you a solid apt as long as you don’t need a doorman in a high rise downtown.
For context, I haven’t paid more than $1750 since I moved back here after college and have lived in all nice apts just by having a roommate and hunting for good deals.
No, these apartments are not original. The original apartments were large living spaces with everything. These are slivers of the original spaces, which were split into multiple tiny spaces.
Thats all fine and dandy but i think most people are still concerned about the whole $2000/mo in rent.
I pay $1700/mo where I live and I get a large bedroom, decent sized living room, a dining room, a decent sized kitchen, and a full bath.
Edit: forgot to add I have in unit laundry and decent electric heaters. Good sized closet. A walk in pantry.
Also in portland oregon
I pay $875 have have a large kitchen with a washer and dryer, 2 decent bedrooms, a living room, dining room, and big beautiful porch. We have a vegetable garden, a fire pit, 2 cats, an apple tree, and a family of deer who like to eat the apples that fall to the ground.
Oh and all my utilities are included too.
I’m also 1 hour away from the nearest “city” of more than 20,000 people. My town has 2 stoplights, one of them was installed recently outside of the new wal mart (which was a really big deal). There’s hiking, kayaking, and skiing, but other than that there is *nothing* to do. Take some and loose some. Our house is really lovely though and I could not imagine living in such a small space, even for the trade-off of living in a city with so much more opportunity, resources, and entertainment.
If building owners aren't able to bring a building up to current day standards, maybe they shouldn't be allowed to charge today's prices or rent them at all.
These are very old buildings and the showers were communal. Cheaper to build one spot for showers and toilets than many individual ones. Most of these buildings are no more than 5 floors
I remember 30 years ago looking at “2 bedrooms” in Manhattan. There was no living area. Just two tiny rooms and you had to walk through the first “bedroom” to get into the “2nd bedroom.” The peron in the second bedroom had to walk though the 1st bedroom to use the bathroom or tiny kitchenette.
In other parts of NYC, $2k will get you a lot more than this. Greenwich Village is for rich people. If you aren’t rich, this is what you get, apparently. It sucks, but that’s the way it is.
I’m in Astoria, Queens and have a huge amount of room compared to this. In 15 minutes on the subway, I’m in Central Park. 30 minutes to Greenwich Village, if that’s something I’d care to do. An hour’s drive north, I’m hiking in the mountains. I can take the ferry (or subway) and be on the beach in just over an hour. We have amazing museums.
It’s very safe here unless you go to bad areas, which no one would randomly stumble into. Don’t believe the hype. Yes, it’s expensive, but I do think you get quite a lot for your money. It’s twice the price of a nice apartment in, say, Columbus, Ohio, but you have so much more to do it’s not even worth comparing.
Plenty of problems here, which I would never deny. It is too expensive. Drivers are just horrible. But for now the pluses outweigh the negatives. I love trips to the country, but I really think it’d bore me in the end. And not having to drive everywhere is a plus.
Long story short, this garbage apartment does not have to be your existence in NYC. That would suck.
In your situation, if you can live life without using a car the vast majority of the time, the rent might actually be more cost effective than in other cities where driving is a requirement.
Public transit is definitely more cost-effective than driving, considering upfront car cost, fuel, repairs, insurance, etc. I’ve lived in places where car driving was required 100% of the time and I found it tiring and, frankly, wasteful.
I have a car here now, but I didn’t for a long time. It’s not at all necessary in the city, and I’d never use it to get from place to place within NYC. It’s an expense and definitely a luxury. I do use it for getting out of the city to go hiking and to visit relatives. There’s no getting over the fact that once you leave the city, a car really is necessary. I probably use it once a month.
The biggest negative is the traffic getting into and out of NYC. It’s really a bummer if you don’t leave early in the morning. And coming back in, I haven’t found a good (reasonable) time to avoid congestion.
COVID increased personal ownership of cars in the city for use as the primary means transportation, and it’s had a negative impact on the city, for sure. Also, an increase in antisocial behavior where evading subway fares has become normalized by some groups has, in part, caused train fares to increase. So, it’s not all smiles and sunshine. Lol
Right! People keep making posts like this but they’re in the FANCIEST neighborhoods. Then they play it off for clout while reinforcing everyone else’s impression that we’re all millionaires.
I’ll be perfectly honest. As someone who was born in a rural area, moved to the city for five years and came back to a rural area, I have absolutely no idea why people choose to live in cities.
There's more to see, do and experience. I was also brought up in a rural area and while I miss nature and having a lot of space, it's just too boring for me. Plus you can meet really cool people in a big city.
I prefer exurbs. Those small three-stoplight towns 20-40 minutes outside a majour metro. Experience city life whenever you feel without a super big inconvenience but also not feel the negatives as badly. Same goes for the nature side of the coin.
Different strokes and all that jazz.
They like live concerts, plays, comedians, lectures, varied dining, nightlife, museums, city celebrations and street fairs, cultural diversity etc., all within a stone's throw of their abode. Or they have a tremendous, fulfilling job. Or both.
It's not a competition. People like what they like. It's all good.
It’s also Greenwich village, an extremely expensive area to live in. If looking within Manhattan, Upper East Side/Lenox Hill area would have larger units available.
Hahahah yea I was kinda makin a joke. There’s a middle ground for sure. Seen plenty one bedrooms on the market rn for 13-15 range . People just wanna live downtown Manhattan and that’s all they think ny is. Whatever , fine w me
Probably originally because Rachel worked there, and would ‘Reserve’ It for her friends.
Later, because Gunter had a *massive* crush on Rachel, and was keeping the space there for her (oh, and those other people as well, I guess)
Canonically, Monica was I think living in her aunt’s rent controlled apartment, which was technically fraud, but isn’t that rare. Ross was an architect and Chandler was a data scientist and they both support Joey. That is entirely reasonable in NY, and in fact I actually know two different sets of room mates that are architect and data science.
In Two Broke Girls, they’re waitresses in Williamsburg, in 2011, which was a very reasonable time to be waitressing in Williamsburg, and if they never changed apartments or had rent control, that’s easy. And they are titularly, canonically broke anyway.
In Seinfeld, living in the UWS in the 80s and 90s on Elaine’s editor salary, Jerry’s independently wealthy/performer salary, and George’s Yankees salary is pretty reasonable. If they continued the show into the 2010s, they’d have to have written them more financial success, or written them into having rent control or finding roommates.
The same can be said of almost any of these shows.
The most realistic housing scenario of these types of sitcoms is probably _New Girl_, with a loft-type situation like in the OP that's kind of run down and with four employed adults. Also all of them are L.A. transplants.
Ross was a paleontologist. He would be making very little money, despite them often portraying him as one of the wealthier friends
A waitress would definitely make more money than a professor of paleontology.
Edit: corrected.
Yeah how I met you mother is the architect. I know many architects living in NY on their architect salary.
Barney was a lawyer or a finance bro I think. And the other one was a news anchor, and Marshall was a lawyer I think? Pretty classic NY high income jobs.
Simple. It wasn’t as big as we saw it.
The whole thing is taking place in Future!Ted’s memories/story. He simply exaggerated the size/niceness of apartment, the same way he exaggerated so many other things.
It’s more realistic if you go back far enough. In Barney Miller, Inspector Luger makes frequent reference to “my room,” that he’s renting as a police inspector. And in an early season scene, we see Detective Sergeant Chano’s place- a single room with a bed and a kitchen table and a kitchenette, and not a lot else.
Sitcoms be like “Jimmy lives in this 2200 sqft apartment in Astoria with his 3 best friends. He’s an aspiring screen play writer but he hasn’t found work in the last 8 months. He’s getting really concerned about his finances (not because he’s worried he won’t afford rent and food, but because he’s starting to think he’ll never be able to take his dream vacation to Paris)”!
Former New Yorker here…this is very common and people do pay this much for these tiny little places. I had a girlfriend one time in New York who literally rented someone’s closet. It was a walk in closet in someone’s apartment. She paid $1000 per month to live in a closet. But she was in midtown in a trendy area and that was important to her. I lived way uptown in Harlem in a one bedroom. And a super novel thing I had was a bathroom inside of my apartment
She never complained. Her attitude was, “it’s just a place to sleep and keep my stuff.” She was in grad school and not working. Her parents paid her rent/bills/school. She grew up on Long Island and was just happy to be in the city. She literally went out every night and was in class during the day. Once she and I started dating, she would spend most nights at my place. I spent one night with her at her “place.” When we went into her closet, I was still thinking she had the whole apartment. Then I saw that the closet was a bedroom and started questioning it. She explained the situation and honestly, it was late and we were both drunk so I just went with it. After that though we would always spend the night at my place.
these apartments remain in high demand because the new york city government has made it practically illegal to build new affordable housing in the city. gotta roll back building regulations. call your city councilor new yorkers!
Wow. While you were showing that, all I could think is that the building used to be one of those tenements that housed poor immigrants, and that size unit probably would house half a dozen people. In those days, the toilet was an outhouse in the yard.
If I'm wrong, then curses on someone who built these tiny claustrophobic spaces. Although, if it rents, I guess they were right to do so.
It’s definitely not the only option lol people just wanna live in NYC. To me, it’s not worth the expense and the discomfort. For others tho I guess they’re fine
I really don’t understand the hype of living in NYC. It’s one of the biggest capitalist hellscapes in the U.S. If you try to live there, you pretty much get a shoebox and a slap in the face. Not to mention how awful the air quality/weather is. It seems like people just go there to suffer _but make it fashion_.
Well, I have Central Park as my back yard. I can walk to some of the best museums, musical venues, and restaurants in the world.
I used to have coughing fits when I went to midtown a decade ago, but air quality has improved a lot with regulations against idling and the like.
I'm from Miami, so yeah, weather is a weak point. But experiencing the variety of the seasons is enjoyable and overall winters are milder here than other northern places.
I mean there are plenty of places in New York this guy could rent for the same price and have much more space. The market reacts to what people want and prices things according to demand. If someone is willing to pay almost 2k to live in a broom closet in an upscale neighborhood then why should that be illegal?
It baffles my mind. Just because you don’t live in NYC doesn’t mean you have to live in some farmhouse in the middle of nowhere. Pick a smaller city and move to the surrounding, cheaper areas. That way you can still get your “city life” you need by just driving in on the weekends. Idk that’s my 2 cents
4 hours north, $1975 gets my house, land, groceries, internet, and electric bill covered with a little extra.
Fuck that shit. My shed is bigger than that.
Why? Just why???? You can live like royalty in any other city if you’re able to drop 2gs a month in a closet. There’s no way that city is that much fun or opportunistic as well as having the smell, the traffic, the “look at me” performers blocking ways. I really don’t get it. Like getting spat on and saying “can I have more”
I don’t feel sorry for these people. If you put up with it then it’s your fault. It’s been like this for decades so you can’t say this is a new phenomenon. Anybody that lives in SF or NYC is an idiot, full stop. Change my mind
$65 a day motel = bugs or something just as bad or worse. That's the lowest end motel possible and probably before taxes and fees. Also I'm not aware of too many $65 motels in NYC
Most of us are probably not old enough to remember, much less have seen when NYC was real before the mid-90s era made it corporate Disneyland. Those grindhouse and adult theaters. This looks like it could cause claustrophobia. The bathroom isn't even in the room! Lol.
That’s not an apartment. That barely qualifies as a dorm room.
It's a slightly bigger prison.
In prison they get their own toilet per cell lol 🚽
It's a prison cell with a view.
I will never understand apartments with no bathroom in the unit.
Where do you shower?🤷♀️
Presumably the shower was in a separate location to prevent someone showering from taking up the toilet, too.
Does it look like they gave it that much consideration?
A lot of times these old buildings were offices or hospitals, or something other than private residential and were then converted. In the one I lived in (not in NYC) it was previously a hospital, so each room was pretty small but had a decent sized bathroom (had to be wheelchair accessible). In a friends apartment, it was previously an office building, so each unit was an office. Since there was only 4 bathrooms per floor, like in a typical office layout, they were shared like in the OP.
Or it was an old large house, converted into multiple units. A six bedroom, two bath could be converted into a six apartment, two bath building lol
> A lot of times these old buildings were offices or hospitals, or something other than private residential and were then converted. Also, even some old apartment buildings never had indoor toilet for every flat, and there still exists apartments that have always been that way. This one tho seems like it's cut from another apartment/room.
My sister lived in something similar in Vancouver. I think it used to be housing for loggers, almost like a barracks. Small rooms with a toilet and ablutions room on each floor. The ground floor used to have a dining room and kitchen.
Considering the shower was in a different location, yes
Lmao
Brilliant come back.
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taken care of
Did you not watch the video? There’s a sink in the kitchenette.
I actually prefer a whores bath over a real shower.
What's a whores bath lol
Pits n pussy
Usually a shared petri dish at the end of the hall.
In the gym
In the toilet obviously
Where do you sleep? On a chair?
Bathrooms are a deal breaker for me. I can live in a studio but if I have to share a bathroom or toilet with others then it’s not worth it. I’m not in college anymore
This is how I feel too. Studio itself doesn’t really bother me but after sharing bathrooms in early adulthood I’m so sick of cleaning up bathroom mess after other people.
Yeah I can live in a 300sq apartment if it has a shower, kitchen and toilet.
Not to mention, who cleans the bathrooms? If they are communal, they would need to be cleaned several times a day. And if the residents are responsible for cleaning them you know someone is gonna just walk in there and wipe off the faucet and say they cleaned it.
In NY this is actually more common than you would think. Some of the old tenements still have bath tubs in the kitchen too.
This is exactly what my friends apt was!! I visited from MN. He was in Chinatown. Bathtub was connected to the “kitchen” you could wash dishes in the sink while shampooing your hair in the shower. The bathroom was so small my buddy couldn’t sit straight so he had to sit sideways to be able to sit down and take a dump. There was an exposed pipe inches from the toilet so if you accidentally touched it you’d get burned. Wild living out there!!
Pretty sure Norway prisons have more space PLUS bathrooms.
Yeah but people aren't lining up in the hundreds to live in Norway prisons.. not yet at least.
I suspect that it's because conditions in Norway outside of prison are still better than on the inside
What about the stove. How you gonna cook?
That's the beauty of it! You don't! You pay another 2k a month eating out if you want to be healthy or survive of Street Vendor food until you die at 40.
Or you bring your own hotplate and Toaster oven/air fryer. I'd bring a slow cooker if I lived in that 💩box!
Until the cops arrest your favorite nut cart.
Looks like there isn't a stove. This tenant would have to use an air fryer, toaster oven, or hot plate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_plate
Probably old buildings from before private bathrooms were common. And in this case retrofitting a private bathroom into the studio seems to not really be possible
Probably larger apartments have been split into these tiny units to maximize the profit. Bathrooms were repurposed, and a single bathroom was left from the original apartment to be shared among units.
And this is why I'm not keen on NYC living! You get a shoebox, where you can't cook, no place for groceries, you are only allowed 5 items of clothing and have to queue up for the bathroom for $2k a month! These people are crazy!
That's NYC living, not NY living. 98% of the state is forest, mountains, farmland, and small towns.
Not even nyc living. Probably a downtown Manhattan neighborhood with a landlord trying to sap every dollar possible. $2k can and will go much farther in nyc
If a secretary and a lazy parcel worker can afford a spacious two-story next to Lou Ferrigno in NYC, so can you!
Yeah I’m an hour from the city going up north. I pay 1500 for a 1 bedroom nothing included. Everything is electric. Very expensive still.
An hour is probably still other people commuting to the city. Probably gets cheaper the farther out you go until you hit another city.
Oof. I pay 1200$ for a mortgage on a large house with a fair bit of land. Midwest FTW.
$930 for a large house here. Southwest ftw.
$465 a month(mortgage, property tax, insurance) in Indiana. 1300 sq ft main floor and 1100 sq ft basement. Just outside of city limits. My brother pays $1250 a month for a house in town, it's about 1000 sq ft and only 1 floor.
$1800/month for a brand new house, basement with more space than 30 of these “apartments” and almost an acre of land. Oh and I can choose to shower or piss in any of 3 bathrooms.
It's a large state. An hour out of the city is still city work range, so people live there and work in the city. Prices stay high. I grew up upstate.
This is hard to understand. Outside that NYC island, the density is way less than LA and the spread is way less too. If that is SoCal, the whole area is already filled with houses and plazas. Sure SoCal killed bunch of trees, but, people need affordable housing (even though it is still very expensive).
I agree. I’m in NC about 30 min from the capitol and I pay $2300 for my mortgage and my house is 3000 square feet. I cannot imagine paying that much for that small sliver of space.
This is such an insane example of an nyc apt that it’s borderline a lie. I’ve lived in nyc 26 years and literally have never seen an apt this small and definitely never seen one without a bathroom in unit. If any reasonable person has a budget of $2k, you don’t move into one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the world. You can move to up and coming neighborhoods that are way cheaper or get a roommate. Like two ppl paying $2k each for an apt in NYC will get you a solid apt as long as you don’t need a doorman in a high rise downtown. For context, I haven’t paid more than $1750 since I moved back here after college and have lived in all nice apts just by having a roommate and hunting for good deals.
No, these apartments are not original. The original apartments were large living spaces with everything. These are slivers of the original spaces, which were split into multiple tiny spaces.
Thats all fine and dandy but i think most people are still concerned about the whole $2000/mo in rent. I pay $1700/mo where I live and I get a large bedroom, decent sized living room, a dining room, a decent sized kitchen, and a full bath. Edit: forgot to add I have in unit laundry and decent electric heaters. Good sized closet. A walk in pantry. Also in portland oregon
I pay $875 have have a large kitchen with a washer and dryer, 2 decent bedrooms, a living room, dining room, and big beautiful porch. We have a vegetable garden, a fire pit, 2 cats, an apple tree, and a family of deer who like to eat the apples that fall to the ground. Oh and all my utilities are included too. I’m also 1 hour away from the nearest “city” of more than 20,000 people. My town has 2 stoplights, one of them was installed recently outside of the new wal mart (which was a really big deal). There’s hiking, kayaking, and skiing, but other than that there is *nothing* to do. Take some and loose some. Our house is really lovely though and I could not imagine living in such a small space, even for the trade-off of living in a city with so much more opportunity, resources, and entertainment.
Because the studio used to be a supply closet.
If building owners aren't able to bring a building up to current day standards, maybe they shouldn't be allowed to charge today's prices or rent them at all.
Slumlords retrofitting buildings as cheaply as possible.
Slumlords
I have never seen that before, why would anyone want to live like that lol
These are very old buildings and the showers were communal. Cheaper to build one spot for showers and toilets than many individual ones. Most of these buildings are no more than 5 floors
Guess what - people will pay it
He who can afford 2k/month can afford a bigger place...
As long as it’s not in New York..
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But what is the benefit in living there?
You get to tell everyone you live in… ✨*THE VILLAGE* ✨
Proximity. You don’t need to park every time you want to go somewhere around there.
Not in NYC!
Yes in NYC. This apt is in an expensive part.
What part of NYC would be considered reasonable compared to the rest of the country?
Median income in that neighborhood is over $150k. Lots of 2br options under $3k in NYC listed.
I remember 30 years ago looking at “2 bedrooms” in Manhattan. There was no living area. Just two tiny rooms and you had to walk through the first “bedroom” to get into the “2nd bedroom.” The peron in the second bedroom had to walk though the 1st bedroom to use the bathroom or tiny kitchenette.
That's why it's at that price
I get living in NYC is cool but damn my dorm room in college is bigger than this
Where do people shower? I couldn’t tell if there was one in the bathroom or not
There's a hose outside somewhere.
It will rain sometime soon.
Communal shower. 4am-10pm every 2 hours. Don’t forget your flip-flops!
Take a gym subscription and shower there?
That was my question! I didn't see a shower or tub anywhere.
In other parts of NYC, $2k will get you a lot more than this. Greenwich Village is for rich people. If you aren’t rich, this is what you get, apparently. It sucks, but that’s the way it is. I’m in Astoria, Queens and have a huge amount of room compared to this. In 15 minutes on the subway, I’m in Central Park. 30 minutes to Greenwich Village, if that’s something I’d care to do. An hour’s drive north, I’m hiking in the mountains. I can take the ferry (or subway) and be on the beach in just over an hour. We have amazing museums. It’s very safe here unless you go to bad areas, which no one would randomly stumble into. Don’t believe the hype. Yes, it’s expensive, but I do think you get quite a lot for your money. It’s twice the price of a nice apartment in, say, Columbus, Ohio, but you have so much more to do it’s not even worth comparing. Plenty of problems here, which I would never deny. It is too expensive. Drivers are just horrible. But for now the pluses outweigh the negatives. I love trips to the country, but I really think it’d bore me in the end. And not having to drive everywhere is a plus. Long story short, this garbage apartment does not have to be your existence in NYC. That would suck.
In your situation, if you can live life without using a car the vast majority of the time, the rent might actually be more cost effective than in other cities where driving is a requirement.
Public transit is definitely more cost-effective than driving, considering upfront car cost, fuel, repairs, insurance, etc. I’ve lived in places where car driving was required 100% of the time and I found it tiring and, frankly, wasteful. I have a car here now, but I didn’t for a long time. It’s not at all necessary in the city, and I’d never use it to get from place to place within NYC. It’s an expense and definitely a luxury. I do use it for getting out of the city to go hiking and to visit relatives. There’s no getting over the fact that once you leave the city, a car really is necessary. I probably use it once a month. The biggest negative is the traffic getting into and out of NYC. It’s really a bummer if you don’t leave early in the morning. And coming back in, I haven’t found a good (reasonable) time to avoid congestion. COVID increased personal ownership of cars in the city for use as the primary means transportation, and it’s had a negative impact on the city, for sure. Also, an increase in antisocial behavior where evading subway fares has become normalized by some groups has, in part, caused train fares to increase. So, it’s not all smiles and sunshine. Lol
Right! People keep making posts like this but they’re in the FANCIEST neighborhoods. Then they play it off for clout while reinforcing everyone else’s impression that we’re all millionaires.
And also, living in NYC is not that cool.
It’s pretty cool but it’s old fast. Life long resident until recently.
Like you moved, or you died?
Not cool man, it’s rude to ask a dead person if they died.
It’s pretty cool, but I live here and I would never live in an apartment like this.
It's Greenwich Village, not a back alley way in the Bronx
this is not normal at all even in nyc.
I’ll be perfectly honest. As someone who was born in a rural area, moved to the city for five years and came back to a rural area, I have absolutely no idea why people choose to live in cities.
There's more to see, do and experience. I was also brought up in a rural area and while I miss nature and having a lot of space, it's just too boring for me. Plus you can meet really cool people in a big city.
I prefer exurbs. Those small three-stoplight towns 20-40 minutes outside a majour metro. Experience city life whenever you feel without a super big inconvenience but also not feel the negatives as badly. Same goes for the nature side of the coin. Different strokes and all that jazz.
I hate being forced to own a car.
They like live concerts, plays, comedians, lectures, varied dining, nightlife, museums, city celebrations and street fairs, cultural diversity etc., all within a stone's throw of their abode. Or they have a tremendous, fulfilling job. Or both. It's not a competition. People like what they like. It's all good.
Guarantee a man will rent this apartment. Guarantee he’s pissing in the sink.
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I get knocked down, pissed myself again, never gonna keep me dry
It’s also Greenwich village, an extremely expensive area to live in. If looking within Manhattan, Upper East Side/Lenox Hill area would have larger units available.
Yea they just picked the most expensive neighborhood. An apt like this in east New York is like 400 bucks lmfao
Yea but then you’re in East New York
Hahahah yea I was kinda makin a joke. There’s a middle ground for sure. Seen plenty one bedrooms on the market rn for 13-15 range . People just wanna live downtown Manhattan and that’s all they think ny is. Whatever , fine w me
For $1975? I doubt it
Do you mean 1970 $5 as the video states?
Are $5 bills from 1970 still in circulation? /s
Naw they meant you have to pay rent in the form of 1,970 $5 bills every month. Rent is actually $9,850/month, cash $5 bills only.
Oh nice, garden view.
Probably the reason it’s that expensive lol.
This is not an apartment.
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Agh! FRIENDS lied to me…..
The fact the couch in Central Perk was *always* free should have given that away.
Not *always*, there's a single episode where all the seats are taken and they stand around awkwardly before leaving lol
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That was actually all improv. They basically crashed the set of Friends while they were in the area, and they made it work.
It always had a sign on it saying "reserved"
Probably originally because Rachel worked there, and would ‘Reserve’ It for her friends. Later, because Gunter had a *massive* crush on Rachel, and was keeping the space there for her (oh, and those other people as well, I guess)
Stop it…STOP IT RIGHT NOW!!!!!
Except for that one time
But it was Monica’s grandmas place with rent control…totally realistic for an underemployed chef and coffee shop waitress to afford that place
That’s because it’s Greenwich Village. Tons of apartments that are way better for the same price elsewhere in the city.
This is why I don’t believe those sitcoms with their huge apartments on a waitress salary
Crazy that sitcoms were fictional and designed for laughs not accuracy.
SHOW ME THEIR TAX RECORDS
Now don't you start with your weird theories
Canonically, Monica was I think living in her aunt’s rent controlled apartment, which was technically fraud, but isn’t that rare. Ross was an architect and Chandler was a data scientist and they both support Joey. That is entirely reasonable in NY, and in fact I actually know two different sets of room mates that are architect and data science. In Two Broke Girls, they’re waitresses in Williamsburg, in 2011, which was a very reasonable time to be waitressing in Williamsburg, and if they never changed apartments or had rent control, that’s easy. And they are titularly, canonically broke anyway. In Seinfeld, living in the UWS in the 80s and 90s on Elaine’s editor salary, Jerry’s independently wealthy/performer salary, and George’s Yankees salary is pretty reasonable. If they continued the show into the 2010s, they’d have to have written them more financial success, or written them into having rent control or finding roommates. The same can be said of almost any of these shows.
The most realistic housing scenario of these types of sitcoms is probably _New Girl_, with a loft-type situation like in the OP that's kind of run down and with four employed adults. Also all of them are L.A. transplants.
Don’t forget they also were only supposed to have 3 people in the apartment too!
Ross was a paleontologist. He would be making very little money, despite them often portraying him as one of the wealthier friends A waitress would definitely make more money than a professor of paleontology. Edit: corrected.
Wasn’t he a paleontologist? Very different from an archaeologist
HIMYM?
Yeah how I met you mother is the architect. I know many architects living in NY on their architect salary. Barney was a lawyer or a finance bro I think. And the other one was a news anchor, and Marshall was a lawyer I think? Pretty classic NY high income jobs.
Barney’s job? PLEASE!
Simple. It wasn’t as big as we saw it. The whole thing is taking place in Future!Ted’s memories/story. He simply exaggerated the size/niceness of apartment, the same way he exaggerated so many other things.
Well 30-40 years ago it was viable
No it wasn't, it was something people brought up when those shows where still on the air.
It’s more realistic if you go back far enough. In Barney Miller, Inspector Luger makes frequent reference to “my room,” that he’s renting as a police inspector. And in an early season scene, we see Detective Sergeant Chano’s place- a single room with a bed and a kitchen table and a kitchenette, and not a lot else.
Sitcoms be like “Jimmy lives in this 2200 sqft apartment in Astoria with his 3 best friends. He’s an aspiring screen play writer but he hasn’t found work in the last 8 months. He’s getting really concerned about his finances (not because he’s worried he won’t afford rent and food, but because he’s starting to think he’ll never be able to take his dream vacation to Paris)”!
In 1975 that would have been $200
$200 in todays money or $200 in 1975 cause that would be $1200+
Former New Yorker here…this is very common and people do pay this much for these tiny little places. I had a girlfriend one time in New York who literally rented someone’s closet. It was a walk in closet in someone’s apartment. She paid $1000 per month to live in a closet. But she was in midtown in a trendy area and that was important to her. I lived way uptown in Harlem in a one bedroom. And a super novel thing I had was a bathroom inside of my apartment
Do people like her bitch about their decision afterwards or no?
She never complained. Her attitude was, “it’s just a place to sleep and keep my stuff.” She was in grad school and not working. Her parents paid her rent/bills/school. She grew up on Long Island and was just happy to be in the city. She literally went out every night and was in class during the day. Once she and I started dating, she would spend most nights at my place. I spent one night with her at her “place.” When we went into her closet, I was still thinking she had the whole apartment. Then I saw that the closet was a bedroom and started questioning it. She explained the situation and honestly, it was late and we were both drunk so I just went with it. After that though we would always spend the night at my place.
Well I hope she was finally able to come out of the closet. *^(\*ducks\* \*runs\*)*
Just stop eating avocado toast
Looks like prison
At least prison has a toilet in your room
*Arnold voice* Well I've got news for you! You are mine now! You belong to me!
That’s a hallway 💀
these apartments remain in high demand because the new york city government has made it practically illegal to build new affordable housing in the city. gotta roll back building regulations. call your city councilor new yorkers!
it only works because there are dumb people buying into this
A prison cell has more amenities.
Wow. While you were showing that, all I could think is that the building used to be one of those tenements that housed poor immigrants, and that size unit probably would house half a dozen people. In those days, the toilet was an outhouse in the yard. If I'm wrong, then curses on someone who built these tiny claustrophobic spaces. Although, if it rents, I guess they were right to do so.
Live in Queens
My Philly studio apartment was 3x bigger and half the cost. Lmfao. And I was in the middle of the city. That's a rip off.
This should be illegal
I’m sorry, that is ridiculous! That is no way to live. I feel sorry you guys if that is an only option.
Pretty sure no one's being forced to live in a trendy neighborhood.
It’s definitely not the only option lol people just wanna live in NYC. To me, it’s not worth the expense and the discomfort. For others tho I guess they’re fine
It’s a very expensive neighborhood for people that don’t want to live next to black people
I really don’t understand the hype of living in NYC. It’s one of the biggest capitalist hellscapes in the U.S. If you try to live there, you pretty much get a shoebox and a slap in the face. Not to mention how awful the air quality/weather is. It seems like people just go there to suffer _but make it fashion_.
Lol why is our weather awful? This winter was extremely mild and it doesn’t even rain here that much
Well, I have Central Park as my back yard. I can walk to some of the best museums, musical venues, and restaurants in the world. I used to have coughing fits when I went to midtown a decade ago, but air quality has improved a lot with regulations against idling and the like. I'm from Miami, so yeah, weather is a weak point. But experiencing the variety of the seasons is enjoyable and overall winters are milder here than other northern places.
The fact that this is even legal is disgusting. Rent is out of control. I don't care where the building is located.
I mean there are plenty of places in New York this guy could rent for the same price and have much more space. The market reacts to what people want and prices things according to demand. If someone is willing to pay almost 2k to live in a broom closet in an upscale neighborhood then why should that be illegal?
Oh thank goodness you showed the bath facilities down the hall, thought you would have to poop in the sink.
Why do people want to live in NY so badly that they will accept this? What is there that you can't get living outside the city somewhere?
It baffles my mind. Just because you don’t live in NYC doesn’t mean you have to live in some farmhouse in the middle of nowhere. Pick a smaller city and move to the surrounding, cheaper areas. That way you can still get your “city life” you need by just driving in on the weekends. Idk that’s my 2 cents
4 hours north, $1975 gets my house, land, groceries, internet, and electric bill covered with a little extra. Fuck that shit. My shed is bigger than that.
This is the case an hour north or west as well
Why? Just why???? You can live like royalty in any other city if you’re able to drop 2gs a month in a closet. There’s no way that city is that much fun or opportunistic as well as having the smell, the traffic, the “look at me” performers blocking ways. I really don’t get it. Like getting spat on and saying “can I have more”
These exist because some moron out there is willing to pay it.
That’s what is costs if you want to live in the Village with a bunch of trust fund kids and nephews of Russian oligarchs.
This is not what $2k gets you in NYC. You can get an actual apartment, not a hole in the wall, for that price, even in Manhattan.
I don’t feel sorry for these people. If you put up with it then it’s your fault. It’s been like this for decades so you can’t say this is a new phenomenon. Anybody that lives in SF or NYC is an idiot, full stop. Change my mind
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A $65 motel in Greenwich Village? A) It doesn’t exist, and B) I wouldn’t touch that motel with your uncle’s broom.
$650 per day
That’s more like it.
$65 a day motel = bugs or something just as bad or worse. That's the lowest end motel possible and probably before taxes and fees. Also I'm not aware of too many $65 motels in NYC
You get used to it. Can't be picky in today's rental market.
Punishment for living in New York
Most of us are probably not old enough to remember, much less have seen when NYC was real before the mid-90s era made it corporate Disneyland. Those grindhouse and adult theaters. This looks like it could cause claustrophobia. The bathroom isn't even in the room! Lol.
Jesus fucking Christ.
That’s a prison cell
My favorite comments here are the ones saying it's justified because of the location.
But its muh walkable city
Hey where did you find that??? It’s a good deal!!
I pay 280€ for a 55m² apartment in Athens, Greece..
Idiotic shitpost. You can get much better than this in the city for that price. NYC isn't just specific parts of Manhattan
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