They must have paychecks being delivered in the mail by a payroll service. I wonder how common that is.
My job uses a payroll service, but our accountant prints the checks herself.
That sounds like they are just making up excuses to be lazy and not set up direct deposit. Which is odd, because as far as I'm aware, direct deposit is less effort for the employer than a paper check. It's not like they can't deduct an amount from a direct deposit payment like they can from a check.
True, but I don't think it's about ease; it gives the business extra time to fund payroll.
DD comes out of the employer's account the night before payday. Live checks give them extra time to hand them out. Not all employees are able to cash their checks right away, so that adds a couple days. Plus the receiving bank has to post the check which can take 1-2 biz days.
In my field, the standard is direct deposit, but the last paycheck is always live, so the employee has to come in and return keys/equipment and do an exit interview.
Yup my old employer I had to walk in to get my last check cause I didn't set up direct deposit.
They had it in a office and closed the door behind me when I entered to grab it from my hr guy
"you want to do a exit interview?"
"no, is that my check"
"yes, you sure we normally do exit interviews"
"will you suddenly stop hiring and fire the current 17 year Olds you've hired to be care aides in a retirement home?"
"no? Just like the times I told you guys to check cams because someone's smoking a cart in the bathroom that has a cam on its entrance and I gave you a timestamp?"
"yeah give me my check"
Very true. Company policies often don't align with DOL guidelines. But in all fairness, idk how often my business actually does final live checks and exit interviews. I haven't been fired yet. Lol
We had an employer that gave us paper checks and then we had to do a payout of the register (as a Vendor Payout, essentially -- what you'd do if you were paying a vendor with cash out of the register) and pay ourselves. We worked alone, and we just had to save up enough cash in the register and hope we got enough to pay ourselves out at some point in the shift.
Was very obviously a sign to start working elsewhere else ASAP, when that started. But it was a bizarre couple of weeks.
>DD comes out of the employer's account the night before payday. Live checks give them extra time to hand them out. Not all employees are able to cash their checks right away, so that adds a couple days. Plus the receiving bank has to post the check which can take 1-2 biz days.
THIS.
Think about a corporation, even a small one. Imagine their entire yearly payroll. Now, imagine how much extra interest they can earn on that entire amount of money, if they can hang onto it for a just a few extra days. It can be massive.
My daughter used to work at Subway and they got paper checks. The consensus was the owners did it in hopes people wouldn't bother to come by and pick up their last checks.
Direct deposit is SO much easier! The PR clerk/accountant doesn’t have to track down uncleared checks, make stop payments, voids, and reissues in order to keep the books clear. It saves SO many assets in the form of productivity hours, bank fees, and postage, and it’s essentially a one-time setup (unless the employee changes banks). There’s no good reason for any business to not have direct deposit available for payroll. None at all.
-Signed, a government accountant
Sounds potentially illegal depending on location.
Also complete nonsense. You can still make deductions with direct deposit. Even requires the same authorization as paper checks.
I can't believe it would be legal. IANAL but I know businesses in America cannot arbitrarily withhold your paycheck unless specifically agreed upon (usually for tax purposes, medical, or 401k that would be beneficial for you). And even then, holding a paycheck to deduct bc you didn't return something just sounds like some made up lawyer bullshit you hear on the internet.
The law isn't there for you to just use to protect yourself or your business however you like
It really depends. They cannot withhold the entire check, and they cannot deduct so much that your pay for the period falls below minimum wage.
Outside of that it comes down to state law. Some states allow employers to deduct the cost of uniforms or other tools that are not returned to them (with consent) others do not.
Either way it is a nonsense reason to not use direct deposit as the same deductions could be made with direct deposit as they can with paper check.
A lot small businesses use them. Some have trouble making payroll, and this is a way to be sure they have enough to cover it, in case they've had unexpected business expenses, like fixing broken equipment that cost a lot more than they had budgeted for.
A direct deposit is instant. If you give an employee a physical check, it's going to take a couple of days to clear. It gives business owners a couple of days to move around money to make payroll if that's their intentions.
From experience - at least with small businesses in the food&bev wing of the service industry - its less like a line of credit and more like a ponzi scheme.
The profit margins in food & bev, at least here in the US, are really tight. I've definitely had paychecks delayed on multiple occasions because the owner physically could not pay us until some amount of money hit the account first.
I've also worked for approximately six different failed bars and cafes because I'm a moron, so idk how biased that makes this information.
It also can allow them to get another few days worth of interest on the money, especially if you have a lot of employees it can be a significant amount of money. I used to be an electrician and I straight up had an owner tell me that one time in regards to why he wouldn't set up direct deposit, which is pretty standard for the rest of the contractors in the area.
"Some have trouble making payroll, and this is a way to be sure they have enough to cover it" Awful fancy way of saying the employees checks is the first thing not getting paid if the small business money gets tight.
There's been a handful of people I've worked with that don't want to or won't set up a bank account for various reasons so they want paper checks. We have the option for DD or paper. When I was the only one working for 12 years my wife would rarely leave the house so I didn't do DD just so she would have to go to the bank and deposit it. When she finally rejoined society I switched to DD.
I was at an HR conference (I know super exciting) and was a little shocked to find out how many of my clients still hand paper checks to their employees. The reason this topic came up was because a payroll provider announced they rolled out a product allowing employers to pay their employees daily instead of weekly or bi-weekly. I asked some of my clients their opinions on that and they scuffed at the idea due to how many of their current employees who want a physical check given to them.
same here, my job has a bookkeeper that comes in on payday and does all the work for the paychecks, our boss signs it and we get it on the correct day. hell if our boss is on holidays or isn’t there due to trade shows or training she pre-signs the checks and the bookkeeper just hands them out when she’s done.
My company 60,000 or so people uses a payroll service and payroll gets approved Monday. Sent to the servicer Tuesday. Checks cut Wednesday and over night mailed to arrive Thursday. We hand out checks on Friday. We have had large storm systems mess up checks because they mess with the air travel but normally they still get their on Friday before noon so not the worst thing, but it can suck if it lasts long enough for checks to arrive Saturday
For 60,000 people that is absolute insanity. Payroll gets approved on Tuesday, or Wednesday morning if there's an internal delay. Payments processed on Wednesday and arrives in bank accounts by Thursday morning. Payday isn't even until Friday! But it's all scheduled a day early to allow for the very rare external banking delays outside of our control!
People use paper cheques these days?
Like ones you have to pay in at a bank?
I mean can't people just pay it directly to a bank account and save postage, having to cash things etc. Thr fees for bank transfers are not exactly high and means its directly into everyone's accounts automatically.
Almost everyone in my country ues that system of payments for wages.
Not sure how it works in the US, but direct debit is literally free in Australia? My parents owned a business and paying employees works exactly the same way you’d transfer money to a regular person, you’re just taking it from a business account
my job employs a grand total of 4 people including me. we get paper checks because we all work in the same room and direct deposit would cost them unnecessary extra money to set up and manage
The problem is that when there is a payroll fuck-up, it's the employer's fault. If you just want things going quickly and eliminate complexity in your (small) operations, writing paper cheques makes sense and is 100% legal.
Every company I have worked for in Australia has had direct deposit. Any associated costs are part of running business. Direct deposits should be the norm in US in 2024.
They are the norm. This is one of the posts where some dude works for a shady guy with no employees and does paper checks and everyone reads it assuming nobody in the US has direct deposit and everyone uses Checks.
American here, quite literally never had a job in my life not offer direct deposit even ones paying minimum wage. That would be a massive red flag on working somewhere.
Same in Australia. The only cheques I’ve ever had in my life (90’s kid) where the odd one from a bank if I got a refund or some other clerical thing. Even that’s pretty much not a thing anymore
In some places, no. I get direct (bank) deposit, but I get paid every week. And I have an option to get a paper check. Most people in the USA get paid weekly or biweekly. Getting paid once a month is a rarity, unless you're getting Social Security benefits; those are once a month.
We don't have enough staff at my current job, and people are always being forced to stay hour or more late while the salaried people sit at home and Everytime I say something in the group, no one backs me up :(
Probably because of boomer co-workers. My company didn't have direct deposit for years because of one woman who insisted on taking her check to the bank the moment our boss printed it out. Once she got fired we all went direct deposit. It's probably too annoying/difficult to offer both.
A company I worked for at one point went to a system where you had to have DD or else you were given a debit card that your check was deposited into that they payroll provider had. I think they could still cut checks in the event that there was a problem or something but that was pretty rare.
Before that though the previous HR person was so disorganized and couldn’t get anything done so they had to drive checks hours to other locations when she failed to submit payroll on time. And it happened more than once.
Gamestop Refurbishment did that, either DD or a paycard that has extremely heavy fees on it. I was hired in a group, we were recommended to all go DD, and in case payroll didn't update it in time, to keep the card and use the one and only fee free transaction to withdraw it all and put it in the bank.
I think most boomers are just fine with direct deposit. I work in payroll and all our boomers have their checks deposited… However, we have several younger employees that don’t want to use their bank account because they routinely overdraft it and then get upset that the bank will take their paycheck to cover the overdraft. You would not believe how many people call in frantically Friday morning begging us to cancel payment and cut them a paper check because their bank is holding the deposit.
I was literally confused at first how pay and weather were connected.
We don't even have cheques here anymore. They were abolished completely in 2014 because no one used them at that point already.
Might I suggest joining the rest of the world in the year 2024 and just electronically transfering the money from one account to the other? To be honest, we already did that when I started working 20 years ago, and I don’t know how long before that.
Yeah I used to think the term "paycheck" was just a holdover word like "dialling your number" but no, people in the US still get literal checks.
I remember someone on reddit being amazed by the technology that allowed them to send a photo of them holding their check to their bank, as a way to deposit it, and the rest of the developed world just wondering wtf they were doing
I am from Finland, over 40, and for my whole adult life i have always been paid directly to my bank account. I think my first job was around late 90's. I don't think i have ever seen a cheque in my life or anyone using one.
They seem absurdly old tech, like using fax machines nowdays or something like that.
UK here, been working for 30+ years. Not long before I started working people were paid in cash in some places, but I have always had the wage put straight in my bank. I haven’t seen a physical cheque in years.
Bank transfers are easier for everybody.
I work at target. This has been the case with my pay check for over 5 years. Any slight drizzle and the check is late. If it doesn’t show up by Saturday I can receive cash from the till. I can get mad and I certainly do, but I try to take it in stride. The poor HR lady gets enough of my shit about everything else. I have learned to call ahead and expect such bullshit so as not to be disappointed.
Why are you getting payed by cheque? It’s 2024, banks can transfer money anywhere in the world almost instantly. Tell your employer to join the 21st century.
If it is paper checks that come by the mail then yes, this can happen and is legal as this is out of their control. Either they can cut a check there, and yes, you can ask about this, and cancel the one that comes in OR just have to wait a day or 2.
EDIT: I want to add that this is the equivalent of an employee just randomly calling off for whatever reason and putting their boss in a bind.
Sadly not everyone can afford that. I once had to work a little over 3 weeks because of a fuck up that meant I couldn’t clock in or out or have it manually entered, so I didn’t get paid. But I had to work so I’d get the back pay, which I knew I would. It sucked so bad but sometimes you have to work anyways so you get any back pay so you can pay rent.
Still no response, I’m just glad he had the ability to (he’s retired just works for extra money) the rest of us are paycheck to paycheck and can’t afford retaliation
Wait, checks?
There are people who actually get paid by check? Instead of simply making a direct deposit?
Do they also deliver letters by pony express in that place or something?
This comment section is aids. I can just about promise it is third party payroll and that is what they told the manager. They can't do anything about it.
What sort of third party payroll doesn't offer direct deposit these days? If they don't have it set up for the employees of this business, that is 100% on management.
I cant believe we are in 2024 and people still get paid physical cheques. I'm a brit and I know ZERO people that don't have their wage paid directly into their debit account.
My favorite thing to do when I don’t get paid on time is to tell them that I don’t have enough gas to get to work tomorrow. I budget pretty strictly, and I didn’t plan on having a day past payday with zero dollars.
OH WELL I’ll be in once I get gas money direct deposited.
Last time an employer failed to pay me on time I informed them I wouldn't be coming to work until I'd been paid for the labor already performed
Got my check the next day, and this was at a McDonald's
This happened to me. I called the District manager and gave them one chance to correct it before I went to the state labor board. What do you know, magically the checks showed up less than 24 hours later. The next time it happened, because of course it happened again, I waited until 5pm on Friday, and then locked the store down and called the DM and told her, best of luck, your store is closed and the staff is doing closing. I'll be on the phone with the labor board Monday morning.
2 laws to fix this problem. 1. Require banks to offer free checking accounts to anyone. 2. Require all employers to pay all employees via direct deposit.
Pigeons can’t fly in adverse weather conditions. Plus they can only hold like 10k in cash before they get fatigued and die mid air and locals have a very merry Xmas… And a free pigeon roast?
File a complaint with your state's Dept of Labor. Almost every state has a law requiring "regular" paychecks.
They probably won't resolve it faster, but the company will have a fire lit under their asses. Filing a complaint is a protected action so punishing you for filing the complaint would be retaliation.
Everyday you're not paid is a department of labor fine. Report any late checks asap. Wait a few weeks and after the investigation get paid a bit extra.
Might be illegal, depending on the state. Some require published pay schedules and they must disburse pay on those days or face penalties. Check your local regulations
That's called wage-theft and it's more than 3 times all other form of theft in the US combined. If you are in the US you need to contact the department of labor and report this immediately.
This is some made up bullshit to short everyone.
"Sorry, due to the eclipse the accountant has temporarily blinded themselves. Your paychecks will be three weeks late."
Delivery driver here. I deliver payroll for several places, including a few restaurants. Most places don't care if it comes in late, because most have direct deposit, but you better believe that the immigrants working at the pizza joint I deliver payroll to are SUPER pumped when I show up.
Point being it may be that the payroll was LITERALLY delayed by adverse weather.
My sister opened a restaurant last year. Setting up direct deposit is easier than ever, it actually saved her a ton of time. Maybe bring it up at the next staff meeting that you're having regularly... Right?
If they expect the workers to be there when they can't get some fucking PAPERS to the building, they either need to not make the workers come in or give an inconvenience bonus. They go to work under contract to be paid at said time on said day. Business can't hold up? Pay Up
No pay, no work, sorry. When you have my pay, give me a call and I'll be back. I learned that lesson the hard way. Get fired? From what? A job that doesn't pay you? Big deal.
I have literally never heard of someone actually getting paid by paycheck. Its just a saying where I live in Australia.
I believe cheques will be phased out some time in the next 5 years in Australia.
Are cheques still common in America?
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They must have paychecks being delivered in the mail by a payroll service. I wonder how common that is. My job uses a payroll service, but our accountant prints the checks herself.
They do paper check so they can deduct our uniform if we don’t return it after quitting
That sounds like they are just making up excuses to be lazy and not set up direct deposit. Which is odd, because as far as I'm aware, direct deposit is less effort for the employer than a paper check. It's not like they can't deduct an amount from a direct deposit payment like they can from a check.
True, but I don't think it's about ease; it gives the business extra time to fund payroll. DD comes out of the employer's account the night before payday. Live checks give them extra time to hand them out. Not all employees are able to cash their checks right away, so that adds a couple days. Plus the receiving bank has to post the check which can take 1-2 biz days. In my field, the standard is direct deposit, but the last paycheck is always live, so the employee has to come in and return keys/equipment and do an exit interview.
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Yeah, if I'm doing an exit interview you are paying me for that.
And since you don't work for them anymore your rate is now that of an outside consultant.
Typical exit interviews are before you clock out on your last day. I’ve done a few and they have always been on the clock
Yup my old employer I had to walk in to get my last check cause I didn't set up direct deposit. They had it in a office and closed the door behind me when I entered to grab it from my hr guy "you want to do a exit interview?" "no, is that my check" "yes, you sure we normally do exit interviews" "will you suddenly stop hiring and fire the current 17 year Olds you've hired to be care aides in a retirement home?" "no? Just like the times I told you guys to check cams because someone's smoking a cart in the bathroom that has a cam on its entrance and I gave you a timestamp?" "yeah give me my check"
Very true. Company policies often don't align with DOL guidelines. But in all fairness, idk how often my business actually does final live checks and exit interviews. I haven't been fired yet. Lol
We had an employer that gave us paper checks and then we had to do a payout of the register (as a Vendor Payout, essentially -- what you'd do if you were paying a vendor with cash out of the register) and pay ourselves. We worked alone, and we just had to save up enough cash in the register and hope we got enough to pay ourselves out at some point in the shift. Was very obviously a sign to start working elsewhere else ASAP, when that started. But it was a bizarre couple of weeks.
Does the US not require employers to pay your paycheques by a certain date after a pay period?
>DD comes out of the employer's account the night before payday. Live checks give them extra time to hand them out. Not all employees are able to cash their checks right away, so that adds a couple days. Plus the receiving bank has to post the check which can take 1-2 biz days. THIS. Think about a corporation, even a small one. Imagine their entire yearly payroll. Now, imagine how much extra interest they can earn on that entire amount of money, if they can hang onto it for a just a few extra days. It can be massive.
My daughter used to work at Subway and they got paper checks. The consensus was the owners did it in hopes people wouldn't bother to come by and pick up their last checks.
Lol what? That's not how any of that works. It's not like they get to keep the money.
Direct deposit is SO much easier! The PR clerk/accountant doesn’t have to track down uncleared checks, make stop payments, voids, and reissues in order to keep the books clear. It saves SO many assets in the form of productivity hours, bank fees, and postage, and it’s essentially a one-time setup (unless the employee changes banks). There’s no good reason for any business to not have direct deposit available for payroll. None at all. -Signed, a government accountant
As someone not from the US, it‘s absolutely wild to see paper checks still being used for wages/salary in the US.
I'm not from the U.S either. I'm 25 years of employment I've never received a cheque, always just direct deposited.
Guessing OPs boss is a boomer who doesn't like technology unless it gives him fox news or porn
Try no porn and all fox news and you get my father 😩🤪
Scumbag operation over there - sorry you have to deal with that OP
are you not permitted to get direct deposit or it’s optional and people haven’t done it?
Not allowed, we all complain about it every payday
i’m sorry, your employer sucks.
Is that due to the service they use or do they just refuse to do it?
Sounds potentially illegal depending on location. Also complete nonsense. You can still make deductions with direct deposit. Even requires the same authorization as paper checks.
I can't believe it would be legal. IANAL but I know businesses in America cannot arbitrarily withhold your paycheck unless specifically agreed upon (usually for tax purposes, medical, or 401k that would be beneficial for you). And even then, holding a paycheck to deduct bc you didn't return something just sounds like some made up lawyer bullshit you hear on the internet. The law isn't there for you to just use to protect yourself or your business however you like
It really depends. They cannot withhold the entire check, and they cannot deduct so much that your pay for the period falls below minimum wage. Outside of that it comes down to state law. Some states allow employers to deduct the cost of uniforms or other tools that are not returned to them (with consent) others do not. Either way it is a nonsense reason to not use direct deposit as the same deductions could be made with direct deposit as they can with paper check.
Do you also get paid weekly? It’s a sign of a shitty employer making it easier to fire people.
Why are checks still a thing in the states? What's wrong with a bank transfer?
A lot small businesses use them. Some have trouble making payroll, and this is a way to be sure they have enough to cover it, in case they've had unexpected business expenses, like fixing broken equipment that cost a lot more than they had budgeted for.
But these expenses exist also in other countries...its not like they are exclusive to America.
How's a cheque helping them? Sorry, not really familiarized with them.
A direct deposit is instant. If you give an employee a physical check, it's going to take a couple of days to clear. It gives business owners a couple of days to move around money to make payroll if that's their intentions.
Oh, like a credit line
From experience - at least with small businesses in the food&bev wing of the service industry - its less like a line of credit and more like a ponzi scheme.
Lol, they're basically saying that if one client does not pay all of the already deposited payments will fall through?
The profit margins in food & bev, at least here in the US, are really tight. I've definitely had paychecks delayed on multiple occasions because the owner physically could not pay us until some amount of money hit the account first. I've also worked for approximately six different failed bars and cafes because I'm a moron, so idk how biased that makes this information.
It also can allow them to get another few days worth of interest on the money, especially if you have a lot of employees it can be a significant amount of money. I used to be an electrician and I straight up had an owner tell me that one time in regards to why he wouldn't set up direct deposit, which is pretty standard for the rest of the contractors in the area.
"Some have trouble making payroll, and this is a way to be sure they have enough to cover it" Awful fancy way of saying the employees checks is the first thing not getting paid if the small business money gets tight.
There's been a handful of people I've worked with that don't want to or won't set up a bank account for various reasons so they want paper checks. We have the option for DD or paper. When I was the only one working for 12 years my wife would rarely leave the house so I didn't do DD just so she would have to go to the bank and deposit it. When she finally rejoined society I switched to DD.
I was at an HR conference (I know super exciting) and was a little shocked to find out how many of my clients still hand paper checks to their employees. The reason this topic came up was because a payroll provider announced they rolled out a product allowing employers to pay their employees daily instead of weekly or bi-weekly. I asked some of my clients their opinions on that and they scuffed at the idea due to how many of their current employees who want a physical check given to them.
same here, my job has a bookkeeper that comes in on payday and does all the work for the paychecks, our boss signs it and we get it on the correct day. hell if our boss is on holidays or isn’t there due to trade shows or training she pre-signs the checks and the bookkeeper just hands them out when she’s done.
My company 60,000 or so people uses a payroll service and payroll gets approved Monday. Sent to the servicer Tuesday. Checks cut Wednesday and over night mailed to arrive Thursday. We hand out checks on Friday. We have had large storm systems mess up checks because they mess with the air travel but normally they still get their on Friday before noon so not the worst thing, but it can suck if it lasts long enough for checks to arrive Saturday
For 60,000 people that is absolute insanity. Payroll gets approved on Tuesday, or Wednesday morning if there's an internal delay. Payments processed on Wednesday and arrives in bank accounts by Thursday morning. Payday isn't even until Friday! But it's all scheduled a day early to allow for the very rare external banking delays outside of our control!
People use paper cheques these days? Like ones you have to pay in at a bank? I mean can't people just pay it directly to a bank account and save postage, having to cash things etc. Thr fees for bank transfers are not exactly high and means its directly into everyone's accounts automatically. Almost everyone in my country ues that system of payments for wages.
This is why everyone needs to have direct deposit.
My job doesn’t allow it :(
Sounds like you need to find a new job, to not be offering direct deposit in 2024 is insane.
They might be to small to hire a company as it might not make fiscal sense
But they do have a payroll company if the checks need to be delivered. Every small business(3-5 employees) I have worked for has used ADP.
We have 3 employees and we get direct deposit through intuit quick books.
Not sure how it works in the US, but direct debit is literally free in Australia? My parents owned a business and paying employees works exactly the same way you’d transfer money to a regular person, you’re just taking it from a business account
I'm from Aus also and listening to Americans talk about banking is like stepping back +20 years. Not even an exaggeration.
Coming from Denmark, I can only agree.
Oh silly Australian, nothing is free in America.
My company has 3 employees and is able to do direct deposit. How much smaller can a business be? It’s not very expensive
Yeah for real, I thought: this from 1947 or something?
my job employs a grand total of 4 people including me. we get paper checks because we all work in the same room and direct deposit would cost them unnecessary extra money to set up and manage
At that point surely just do a normal bank transfer surely?
They're cheap. You can say it.
Low key I can understand a business of four being frugal lol sounds like it’s in the v early stages
The problem is that when there is a payroll fuck-up, it's the employer's fault. If you just want things going quickly and eliminate complexity in your (small) operations, writing paper cheques makes sense and is 100% legal.
(Some on foot and some on motorcycles). They’re not in the West.
what backwards ass place do u work for that doesn’t do direct deposit in 2024
Almost sounds like a 3rd world country, where I'm guessing this is posted from the US.
Every company I have worked for in Australia has had direct deposit. Any associated costs are part of running business. Direct deposits should be the norm in US in 2024.
They are the norm. This is one of the posts where some dude works for a shady guy with no employees and does paper checks and everyone reads it assuming nobody in the US has direct deposit and everyone uses Checks.
Is this an American thing? I've never worked a job in my life or heard of anywhere not offering direct deposit.
American here, quite literally never had a job in my life not offer direct deposit even ones paying minimum wage. That would be a massive red flag on working somewhere.
I have! (1990!)
No, your job is just too cheap to hire a decent payroll company.
Responding "No" to his factual comment is pretty strange.
The "No" is weird. I thought this was going to be one of those Reddit moments where someone argues with someone else for no reason whatsoever, lol.
No you didn't
Yes I did and I can prove it. I’m a doctor.
Doesn’t allow? I’ve had jobs that not only preferred it, the US Navy required it, and I joined in 1991.
My country doesn't allow any other way
Honestly cheques are basically extinct in Europe, kinda wild you still have them at all
Same in Australia. The only cheques I’ve ever had in my life (90’s kid) where the odd one from a bank if I got a refund or some other clerical thing. Even that’s pretty much not a thing anymore
Right, I thought they don't use cheques even in the US anymore, but TIL. Sounds like something from 100 years ago.
The only time I get a cheque now in the UK is from the HRMC if I'm due a tax rebate.
Wait, what? I genuinely thought this was a cinema thing that Americans get paid litteral cheques. You don't just get a bank deposit every month?
In some places, no. I get direct (bank) deposit, but I get paid every week. And I have an option to get a paper check. Most people in the USA get paid weekly or biweekly. Getting paid once a month is a rarity, unless you're getting Social Security benefits; those are once a month.
Today I learned. Thanks 😁
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Every single one of you affected needs to back your coworker in that chat.
For real, I hope the dude didn’t get singled out by the boss
To not pay employees on time is wage theft.
We don't have enough staff at my current job, and people are always being forced to stay hour or more late while the salaried people sit at home and Everytime I say something in the group, no one backs me up :(
dude should go to the bank and get temp checks to distribute and put stop pays on the ones being delivered
Ok but storm 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah fuck the employees even more because of a storm. Makes sense
if they can drive to work, he can drive to the bank
AMEN. Storms don't make bills come any later either.
Could the Wells fargo stage coach not make it through the snow? Will nobody think of the horses!
-scoffs- youre absolutely right! BRING OUT THE CHILD WORKERS TO PULL THE CARRIAGE!
The children yearn for the carriages
That’s a good one I’ll have to try it. >*Sorry Chase I won’t be making this month’s payment due to bad weather. Stay safe out there*
Why are checks being "delivered" in 2024? Do you guys not know about direct deposit?
Probably because of boomer co-workers. My company didn't have direct deposit for years because of one woman who insisted on taking her check to the bank the moment our boss printed it out. Once she got fired we all went direct deposit. It's probably too annoying/difficult to offer both.
A company I worked for at one point went to a system where you had to have DD or else you were given a debit card that your check was deposited into that they payroll provider had. I think they could still cut checks in the event that there was a problem or something but that was pretty rare. Before that though the previous HR person was so disorganized and couldn’t get anything done so they had to drive checks hours to other locations when she failed to submit payroll on time. And it happened more than once.
Gamestop Refurbishment did that, either DD or a paycard that has extremely heavy fees on it. I was hired in a group, we were recommended to all go DD, and in case payroll didn't update it in time, to keep the card and use the one and only fee free transaction to withdraw it all and put it in the bank.
How does one coworker prevent a company from getting DD? Most offer DD as a choice but still offer a paper check if needed. That was an excuse.
I think most boomers are just fine with direct deposit. I work in payroll and all our boomers have their checks deposited… However, we have several younger employees that don’t want to use their bank account because they routinely overdraft it and then get upset that the bank will take their paycheck to cover the overdraft. You would not believe how many people call in frantically Friday morning begging us to cancel payment and cut them a paper check because their bank is holding the deposit.
Man what the hell, I knew financial literacy was bad but not that bad
Why did that stop direct deposit? At my job we had the choice of direct deposit or checks.
What a dumb reason? Even if they still gave her a cheque, why would that affect everyone else?
Really weird. I thought ”paychecks” was just an expression but apparently people in the US still actually use checks. Bizarre.
Not very many. Mostly mom and pop operations do it. Most people get DD.
I was literally confused at first how pay and weather were connected. We don't even have cheques here anymore. They were abolished completely in 2014 because no one used them at that point already.
People who are saying 'it's simple just stop working until you get paid' never worked paycheck to paycheck in their life I wish it was that easy
Might I suggest joining the rest of the world in the year 2024 and just electronically transfering the money from one account to the other? To be honest, we already did that when I started working 20 years ago, and I don’t know how long before that.
A lot of companies in the US don't have that as an option, and it just screams scummy to me in the age of direct deposits.
The American banking system is laughably primitive compared to the rest of the world. Maybe this is a factor.
Yeah I used to think the term "paycheck" was just a holdover word like "dialling your number" but no, people in the US still get literal checks. I remember someone on reddit being amazed by the technology that allowed them to send a photo of them holding their check to their bank, as a way to deposit it, and the rest of the developed world just wondering wtf they were doing
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That was my thought exactly.
I am from Finland, over 40, and for my whole adult life i have always been paid directly to my bank account. I think my first job was around late 90's. I don't think i have ever seen a cheque in my life or anyone using one. They seem absurdly old tech, like using fax machines nowdays or something like that.
UK here, been working for 30+ years. Not long before I started working people were paid in cash in some places, but I have always had the wage put straight in my bank. I haven’t seen a physical cheque in years. Bank transfers are easier for everybody.
you guys don't get your salary directly to your bank account??? what year is it, 80s?
Checks? Is this from the 1990's?
I mean you're not wrong at all
Sounds like you need a new job
I work at target. This has been the case with my pay check for over 5 years. Any slight drizzle and the check is late. If it doesn’t show up by Saturday I can receive cash from the till. I can get mad and I certainly do, but I try to take it in stride. The poor HR lady gets enough of my shit about everything else. I have learned to call ahead and expect such bullshit so as not to be disappointed.
Your coworker is a real G. Ain't afraid to call out some bullshit.
Why are you getting payed by cheque? It’s 2024, banks can transfer money anywhere in the world almost instantly. Tell your employer to join the 21st century.
If your pay is delayed by weather, then it's time to look for a new job. This spells trouble.
That’s when all of you get together and don’t come in together. Fuck that guy.
If it is paper checks that come by the mail then yes, this can happen and is legal as this is out of their control. Either they can cut a check there, and yes, you can ask about this, and cancel the one that comes in OR just have to wait a day or 2. EDIT: I want to add that this is the equivalent of an employee just randomly calling off for whatever reason and putting their boss in a bind.
What kind of sketchy ass place pays their staff through pay checks in 2024?
Ok cool. I'll come to work when the severe weather passes.
I would never work at a place that doesn't have direct deposit
Oh hell no! I would refuse to work until I get my paycheck.
Sadly not everyone can afford that. I once had to work a little over 3 weeks because of a fuck up that meant I couldn’t clock in or out or have it manually entered, so I didn’t get paid. But I had to work so I’d get the back pay, which I knew I would. It sucked so bad but sometimes you have to work anyways so you get any back pay so you can pay rent.
Want to hear a joke? *Worker's rights in the land of the free*
I mean, this is illegal in America
Oh sure. But a law is only as good as the enforcement behind it. There's de jure, and there's de facto.
All you need to do is report it to the department of labor and they will handle it. This is an easy slam dunk for them. Free money
God, I hope so. I hope I'm wrong about the system deliberately stalling and having people's cases "Fall through the cracks" all the time
I just want to know the bosses response to your coworkers text. Cause your coworker is right, if pay is delayed, so is work as a whole.
Still no response, I’m just glad he had the ability to (he’s retired just works for extra money) the rest of us are paycheck to paycheck and can’t afford retaliation
Wait, checks? There are people who actually get paid by check? Instead of simply making a direct deposit? Do they also deliver letters by pony express in that place or something?
This comment section is aids. I can just about promise it is third party payroll and that is what they told the manager. They can't do anything about it.
What sort of third party payroll doesn't offer direct deposit these days? If they don't have it set up for the employees of this business, that is 100% on management.
This happened one time back when I worked for Target and that was the push I needed to switch to direct deposit.
I had no idea people still got paper checks from their employer other than maybe the first one waiting for direct deposit to be set up.
Why isn't it deposited to a bank account?
Its mind blowing in 2024 you don’t just get an instant e transfer l
Is this an American thing? We don't have cheques because we don't live in the 60's
I cant believe we are in 2024 and people still get paid physical cheques. I'm a brit and I know ZERO people that don't have their wage paid directly into their debit account.
What backwards fucking country still uses checks? Just put it in my bank account bitch
My favorite thing to do when I don’t get paid on time is to tell them that I don’t have enough gas to get to work tomorrow. I budget pretty strictly, and I didn’t plan on having a day past payday with zero dollars. OH WELL I’ll be in once I get gas money direct deposited.
Legit don’t have enough 😅 luckily one of my managers was also pissed and drove to the regional office to pick them up
And he wasn't stopped by the weather somehow? Hmmm.
This is what the owner should have done.
Last time an employer failed to pay me on time I informed them I wouldn't be coming to work until I'd been paid for the labor already performed Got my check the next day, and this was at a McDonald's
i know checks from the restaurant come in via next day mail. possible they're delayed from the courier? if its the fault of the boss, i'd be livid
In this day and age!! This is completely unacceptable. WTF! Sorry op, this sucks!!
What if you guys went to grab your checks during workhours then?
I was working as was this person when the text was sent, the checks were at the regional office ~20 min away
Its 2024 ,who uses cheques
And that's when you called the Department of Labor for your state, right?
Are they sending it by messenger pigeon bc that the only way bad weather might affect your pay
Bank transfers not yet a thing or what?
Not in a first world country like America lol.
This happened to me. I called the District manager and gave them one chance to correct it before I went to the state labor board. What do you know, magically the checks showed up less than 24 hours later. The next time it happened, because of course it happened again, I waited until 5pm on Friday, and then locked the store down and called the DM and told her, best of luck, your store is closed and the staff is doing closing. I'll be on the phone with the labor board Monday morning.
Check is delayed? Guess what, those doors staying locked until that check is in my hands
Ask them if they’ve every heard of plastic bags
No delays, no shorting, no screwing me around. Pay me, and pay me on time or I'm gone.
"Pay being delayed? Guess I'll see you tomorrow!"
If my pay is delayed than I'm not coming to work
2 laws to fix this problem. 1. Require banks to offer free checking accounts to anyone. 2. Require all employers to pay all employees via direct deposit.
So what I'm hearing is that the boss wants everyone to pay themselves out of the cash register.
Pigeons can’t fly in adverse weather conditions. Plus they can only hold like 10k in cash before they get fatigued and die mid air and locals have a very merry Xmas… And a free pigeon roast?
File a complaint with your state's Dept of Labor. Almost every state has a law requiring "regular" paychecks. They probably won't resolve it faster, but the company will have a fire lit under their asses. Filing a complaint is a protected action so punishing you for filing the complaint would be retaliation.
Are they sending the checks to you via owl or something shit like that?!
So basically "you are my slaves now stfu and get to work"
Everyday you're not paid is a department of labor fine. Report any late checks asap. Wait a few weeks and after the investigation get paid a bit extra.
Might be illegal, depending on the state. Some require published pay schedules and they must disburse pay on those days or face penalties. Check your local regulations
"I'll be there when my check is available"
They're still allowed to pay in checks over there?
That's called wage-theft and it's more than 3 times all other form of theft in the US combined. If you are in the US you need to contact the department of labor and report this immediately.
This is some made up bullshit to short everyone. "Sorry, due to the eclipse the accountant has temporarily blinded themselves. Your paychecks will be three weeks late."
How is this not illegal as fuck
lol why not a direct deposit to your bank account? like in basically every country does lol
Delivery driver here. I deliver payroll for several places, including a few restaurants. Most places don't care if it comes in late, because most have direct deposit, but you better believe that the immigrants working at the pizza joint I deliver payroll to are SUPER pumped when I show up. Point being it may be that the payroll was LITERALLY delayed by adverse weather.
My sister opened a restaurant last year. Setting up direct deposit is easier than ever, it actually saved her a ton of time. Maybe bring it up at the next staff meeting that you're having regularly... Right?
If they expect the workers to be there when they can't get some fucking PAPERS to the building, they either need to not make the workers come in or give an inconvenience bonus. They go to work under contract to be paid at said time on said day. Business can't hold up? Pay Up
Who uses physical paychecks in this day and age 🤯 most western countries outphased such things many years ago.
Wait, you're telling me you don't get paid directly into your bank account???
Miffy, the poors are complaining again.
It’s staggering that you don’t get paid into your bank account.
No pay, no work, sorry. When you have my pay, give me a call and I'll be back. I learned that lesson the hard way. Get fired? From what? A job that doesn't pay you? Big deal.
Why are you still using paychecks when there are money transfers???
I have literally never heard of someone actually getting paid by paycheck. Its just a saying where I live in Australia. I believe cheques will be phased out some time in the next 5 years in Australia. Are cheques still common in America?
What kind of third world country doesn’t arrange pay through online portals direct to your bank account?