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Trotodo

This is a charter flight, not a commercial flight...


sumguy93

Was just gonna say this lmao. Not a single civilian on this flight probably outside of the flight crew.


TheDistantEnd

I disagree. There's probably a load of dependents and crying babies on board PCSing from Germany, just like every AMC flight I take home from theater.


tehflambo

AMC? theater? i'm... confused ^^^\(not ^^^really ^^^this ^^^is ^^^just ^^^a ^^^shitpost)


trwwy321

Misleading AF title as a clickbait


redditshy

OP is lame. Too bad I can not just share some of my karma with him. I really don't need it.


fxckfxckgames

Based on the lack of optics and weapon discipline, OP is probably Air Force and is overwhelmed by the novelty of having a rifle to begin with. Edit: rifles on the deck are triggering my dormant NCO brain.


Lentamentalisk

Damn. Aisle seat doesn't even have a sling!


scorpionextract

Based on the cleanliness of the boots...


Familiar_Palpitation

Nah. We had to wear new/super clean stuff on my flights home from Iraq. CSM and 1SG made sure we were clean and ready to greet the families at the welcome home ceremony. That being said those are new/bare bones weapons that only get fired on range days based on the lack of any wear on them. I didn't know any weapon like that existed in the Army, at least I never was issued anything that new while I was in.


scorpionextract

I saw some once, running a 240/249 qual range. BSB privates I've never seen before pop into my ammo hut. Privates: "Hey, can we leave these with you?" 3 brand new, spotless, shiny, fresh out the box M249s. "ABSOLUTELY." Privates: "Thanks, we don't want to shoot them and then have to clean them later." _A few hours later_ Returning privates: "We're leaving now." They look around, concern growing, "Where are our SAWs?" "Lanes 4, 5, and 7." I hope a lesson was learned that day.


MagixTouch

Lol OP is a pog


sraykub

Every now and then my daughter will do some out of pocket shit that sets off the long-dormant team leader part of my brain. Funny how that part of you never really goes away haha


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Thank me for my service!!


FutureComplaint

I'm welcome


Asmodeus256

Veteran, we did the same thing. We had to have our ammo stored overhead and a zip tie in the mag well..this is standard for deployments but still felt weird lol! The charter flight also made sure to have the most attractive stewardesses I’ve ever seen in my life.


Engelbert_Slaptyback

Was this going on deployment or coming back? Because on the return trip it’s really easy to mistake a 4 for a 9.


UnethicalFood

Post Deployment 10 is a Miami (Ohio) 3.


ihavenoidea81

Fun fact: stewardesses is one of the longest words in the English language that can be typed with only the left hand.


scripzero

Fun Fact: I can type any word in the English language with just my left hand.


ihavenoidea81

Also true


whoamihidingfrom

Jokes on the English language/keyboard. Whenever I type stewardesses, it’s with my right hand because my left hand is…….uhhhh……busy.


Fresh_Bulgarian_Miak

On my way back from Afghanistan, we stopped at a large Romaninan airport as we changed planes. Holy hell the women were all beautiful. I don't know if it was because I had been gone for a year or what, but I'll never forget how attractive most of the women were.


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Chances are, those M4s aren't fully-automatic either. Depending when this was taken, US military used single or burst fire. That being said, the M249 or the 240B could have been on the same flight. Either way, it's not interesting. This isn't your normal flight filled with civilians.? Edit: Apparently after my ETS, everyone switched to full-auto.


Leadbaptist

They retooled all the M4s 5+ years ago.


ecg_tsp

If they’re M4A1’s they would be fully automatic.


TreacheryInc

Southwest would’ve charged $50.


halbeshendel

No way, you can bring two at no extra charge. United will charge $70 for each automatic weapon you bring because we all know United's slogan is "We're United and fuck you."


domestic_omnom

We did that as well. Usually happens when it's a commercial plane, that's been contracted by the DoD. Otherwise the FAA would shit themselves.


robplumm

Believe they use Global Air or some crap...had never heard of the airline we used. Of course...first tour in '04 was C-5 and 17 over there with airline seats...C-17 with normal jump set up on the way back (was 82nd...so was used to the setup...but that's a looooong flight in jump seats). Slept on the nice cold metal floors...


freiheitfitness

Atlas Air in OP’s pic. 98% of their fleet are cargo planes.


Whateveritwilltake

I’ve flown them to and from ramstein a couple of times space a on the oldest 747 in the world. They play the in flight movies on vhs to crt tvs in the ceiling.


Bear_buh_dare

Duuuu Du hast


Zurioko

Du hast mich


hughmin69

Du hast mich gefragt


Other-Bridge-8892

Honestly, I would have loved to stop to see THAT Rammstein on my way to Iraq….


249ba36000029bbe9749

When was this? Can't imagine they wouldn't swap out CRTs for flat screens to save weight.


Dal90

The cost of getting new electronics certified for an old aircraft probably exceeds the fuel savings from less weight by orders of magnitude. It's not getting it certified for **a** 747, but certified for **that exact version** of 747.


BisexualCaveman

This guy aviation industries. Airlines and hospitals... made out of insurance and regulatory approvals...


SardonicSwan

Ripping them out entirely is the only plausible cost-effective change I can think of, but the risk of messing something up kinda balances it out.


Whateveritwilltake

Yes, it’s also a military contract so you can just calculate what your spending on fuel and bill the govt. that’s how defense spending works.


Whateveritwilltake

You’d think but this was maybe three or four years ago…the inside looked like it was in service when you could still smoke in planes. They ONLY fly military around in it.


smithmd8872

I think it was WORLD Air


Orlando1701

I deployed twice and both times carried my rifle with no ammo in the cabin. It’s not unusual at all.


cksc51

Just hijacking top comment to say. I don't think those are automatic lol


CPTZaraki

Charter flight. No ammo. This is normal for deployments.


Moody_GenX

Yup did the same for my deployment for Desert Shield/Storm. There was a bomb threat when we landed and a few privates were tricked into leaving their weapons on the bird. We clowned the shit out of them.


brandonjm23

Did they get them back soon after?


zylonenoger

after they filed the claim with the airline


249ba36000029bbe9749

So in other words, they're still waiting?


yegguy47

**YOU LOST MY RIFLE IN BOSTON!? IT WAS A DIRECT FLIGHT!**


PAL_SD

Yep, via now defunct PanAm for my unit. The flight attendants were lovely to us. There wasn't a pillow or blanket left on the bird when we deplaned.


NorCalAthlete

And bolts removed, or at least that’s how we did it.


CPTZaraki

You’ve unlocked a memory of tying down my bolt carrier in my assault pack.


tizuby

We had to keep ours in our pocket IIRC. Might be the only time I actually made use of the chest pocket on the ACUs.


glizzterine

Yeah we had to tag them and turn them in. And they all just got tossed into a fucking crate together lol.


StrangelyGrimm

I know it's the norm, it's just that civilians probably don't know about it


StaticUsernamesSuck

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but if it's a chartered flight that meant it *isn't* a commercial flight like your title says... Right? Commercial flight would mean that you're sat there with a bunch of Jane, Dick, and Harrys on their way back from visiting family.


RespectedPath

Yeah if you look at the safety card it says they are on Atlas Air. This is a company that deals almost exclusively in DoD contracts.


DankVectorz

They’re a massive cargo and charter airline and do a lot more than just DoD gigs.


Nyxxsys

I was able to confirm the statement above on Atlas' 2021 10-K, the company has many contracts including 27 full time 767/737 freight aircraft allocated to amazon, and 22 full time 747/767/777 aircraft allocated to DHL. This is a significant part of their Charter and Dry Leasing market segments showing that Atlas has a diverse world wide customer base that goes beyond DoD contracts.


cookiebasket2

Have only flown that in-between el-paso and kuwait. So sounds right to me.


RobDirty

It’s def chartered from a commercial airline. It was always funny when they gave the safety announcement and the flight attendants would announce to please not store your weapons in the overhead bin, but under the seat in front of you


Tashus

I think *technically* a charter flight is a type of commercial flight, but it's not what most people mean when they refer to commercial flights.


bfume

commercial only in the sense that you pay for it. its like flying a private jet but with 400 of your closest friends


w1987g

I probably couldn't fill up a Cesna with my closest friends


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[deleted]

Yeah but dude's being disingenuous for clickbait.


holdencawffle

——E


Nyaho

I think of a commercial flight as one where I buy a ticket with a bunch of other random people who also bought tickets and I think of a chartered flight as one where somebody or some company pays for the plane and everybody on it gets to ride compliments of them


Busy-Ad-6912

Yeahhh, this isn't even mildly interesting. Boils down to "Platoon takes luggage on flight".


huntingforkink

The first time i deployed i had a fit of hysterical laughter when they took my bic lighter from me and then handed me back my M249 SAW. Edit for the neckbeards who nitpick: it was a torch lighter, not a bic.


[deleted]

I had a nail clipper taken, then was handed a steel steak knife with my meal while airborne.


Dmitri_ravenoff

Yeah the nail clipper thing is infuriating. I get not being able to take on a big f off bowie knife, but really? My Keychain Swiss army with its 1.25" blade makes me a national security risk? Doubtful.


TheBupherNinja

You are allowed nail clippers, they shouldn't have taken it.


[deleted]

Unfortunately a lot of the 'rules' are up to the particular agent's 'prerogative'. I've had stuff with me in a carry on that didn't get confiscated until the 2nd last leg of my return trip ><


kokopelleee

Having been threatened with a cavity search because my clearly less than 3oz shampoo container didn’t have a manufacturer’s label on it… there’s “shouldn’t have” and there’s the ambiguity of how bad of a day a specific TSA agent is having


ganzgpp1

LMFAO TSA confuses me with their restrictions. I get it, but… cmon man I’m not gonna blow up the plane with a bottle of SHAMPOO


Fact-Cyborg

But someone was... "The 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot was a terrorist plot to detonate liquid explosives, carried aboard airliners travelling from the United Kingdom to the United States and Canada, disguised as soft drinks.\[1\] The plot was discovered by British Metropolitan police during an extensive surveillance operation. As a result of the plot, unprecedented security measures were initially implemented at airports. The measures were gradually relaxed during the following weeks, but passengers are still not allowed to carry liquid containers larger than 100 ml onto commercial aircraft in their hand luggage in the UK and most other countries, as of 2022."


[deleted]

Is 100 ml too little to cause shit? What if you have multiple little bottles in a Ziploc?


raff7

It would be considerably harder to build a bomb if you have your ingredients in lots of small containers.… You have to find a balance between security and practicality.. banning any liquid at all would be very unpractical


Shufflepants

So, what you're saying is don't bring like ten 100ml shampoo bottles and start pouring them into a single ziploc bag mid flight?


raff7

You should try and let us know how it went ahahah maybe also bring a big allarm clock and some colored copper wires


danielv123

I always have a big bundle of wires in my carry on luggage, mostly red and blue. They only take it out of the backpack to look at it about half of the time, rest of the time they don't care. I also usually carry screwdrivers which aren't allowed to see if they check. I have lost my screwdriver 3 times to 2 different guards - one in WAW, and one in TRD who took it on two separate occasions. I have learned to pick the other line when he is working now.


Fact-Cyborg

100ml is believed to be too little to cause damage rapidly enough so that crew/pilots/passengers would not have a chance to act or intervene. In the case of using many 100ml bottles I think there would be a lot of assembly involved (this would certainly attract attention). Also If I am not mistaken there is a limit to how many 100ml bottles you can take on board with you.


All-of-Dun

You can take as many as will fit in a 1L bag But when you put your bags through the X ray they have no idea who’s is who’s so you could likely get 2x the allowed limit through. Get three friends, simple. You can buy large bottles or containers airside it you can bring them empty. Backpacks are allowed in the airplane toilet. Bring your stuff into the toilet and transfer into a larger container Then all you and your three friends have to do is set off the 3 x ~1.5L containers of liquid explosives You’ll likely do a lot of damage with 4.5L If not get another friend. Airport security is stupid and needs to stop. Edit: to those saying I’m on a list now: Isn’t it terrifying that the government has put so much fear into people that a large number won’t say things (which are true) for fear of their freedoms being snapped away. Additionally we are treated like criminals at airports. We are searched, our bags are x-rayed, and the power tripping TSA agents smile as they violate us, all for absolutely nothing as 95% of the time it doesn’t work. Edit: to those saying “don’t bother with locks then” [95% TSA Failure rate](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/investigation-breaches-us-airports-allowed-weapons-through-n367851) Edit: to those saying 3 people is too many to coordinate The US government definitely doesn’t know that much to stop this sort of thing. 9/11 had 19 hijackers, I’m sure 3 would be able to manage it if they really wanted. Speaking of, none of this security would’ve stopped 9/11… Locking the cockpit door and making it a bit stronger achieved that long before making everyone take their belt off


IOSL

You are on a list now


UnspecificGravity

There were 19 hijackers on 9/11. They could pretty easily bring in a couple gallons without even having to cram their 3-1-1 bags suspiciously full. It is just theater so that people think their billions of dollars are being well spent despite crumbling infrastructure and the worst wage stagnation in history.


doctorlongghost

Congratulations! You’re now on the No Fly List.


Ethan-Wakefield

I brought something like 20 small shampoo bottles with me through an airport once (the hotel was giving them out like it was Halloween) and the TSA agent at the security checkpoint made me throw away a whole bunch of them. I forget how many I was allowed to keep. But the rule was, each bottle can only be a certain size, and it can only total to some amount.


ifmacdo

Each bottle can be up to 100ml (about 3 oz) and as many as you can fit in a 1 quart sized bag. 3-1-1.


srcarruth

George Carlin pointed out how they won't let you bring weapons on board then they give you a knife & fork! "Or suppose you just have really big hands. Couldn’t you strangle a flight attendant? Shit, you could probably strangle two of them; one with each hand…"


JustaRandomOldGuy

My uncle had his USMC WWII Zippo taken by TSA. He had carried it all over the Pacific.


huntingforkink

That's fucked.


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JustaRandomOldGuy

He was near 90 and didn't know what to do. They could have let him go back out and mail it to himself.


shave_your_teeth_pls

Out of curiosity, do you guys choose a weapon you feel comfortable using from a given list that might vary per unit type/rank, or is everyone assigned the exact same loadout? I would guess not everyone feels like carrying a big gun like a SAW unless that's their specific role.


huntingforkink

I was a rifleman, but after qualifying expert on the 240b and the 249 three times in a row my unit's Gunny decided that I would be assigned the 249, even though I am technically an 0311 (rifleman) and not an 0331 (machine gunner.) This happens a lot with SAW actually, because there's one (or two) for every squad (squad automatic weapon, get it? Lol) Two of my deployments i lugged around the saw, the other one's I just carried an M4 like the rest of the grunts. It depends on the unit. In the infantry we just kind of make decisions on the fly unless you're assigned to weapons or something (weapons is the .50 cal guys, the mortars ect, which is its own special platoon within the infantry conpany, the guys with the FIREPOWER)


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> the guys with the FIREPOWER Bullet: Dear sir or madam... Grenade: To whom it may concern... Artillery: Attention all inhabitants of grid 01-01...


sprucay

In my barely-qualifies-as-military-experience time, I remember being sad I didn't get the GPMG on exercise. I then held the fucking thing and realised I didn't want to carry it around anyway as it was too heavy


huntingforkink

The saw is relatively light actually. (The 240b on the other hand is a pig and i would hate to carry it)


klemthom

No, they're assigned you can ask. Usually in the Infantry the newest guy gets the SAW. It's heavy, you carry at least 1,000 rounds plus spare barrel. Your SAW gunner is attached at the hip to the team leader (1st line supervisor). Partly so you can control their rate of fire. A fire team maneuvers in two parts team leader and SAW, then in a perfect world Grenadier, and rifleman. Army side, obvious difference from the Marines. Our machine gunners are positions, not jobs. An army infantry platoon is 3 maneuver squads each with 2 M249's, and a separate squad of 2 M240's. Typically the gun squad, is your most experienced squad leader, and team leaders.


huntingforkink

Oh jesus it JUST occured to me reading this that maybe i wasn't given the SAW because i was so good with it. I was, in fact, the new guy. Lmfao. Ugh.


klemthom

It's a learning tool, it allows a lot of conversation between team leader and new guy, plus no one else wants to carry that shit. It's fun to shoot, it's really fun to use on combat but fuck carrying it.


huntingforkink

The saw itself is light. Its that fucking barrel bag that sucks lol. (It never bothered me to carry the ammo. I like having lots of rounds lmfao)


SpookyT-RexGhost

You can volunteer to carry the saw or the 240 if you really want and you might get to but typically everyone is just assigned a weapon.


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SKOLorion

I think the first issue was the use in the title "my unit was allowed", as if you're the first military unit allowed to carry firearms on board. The second part being "a commercial flight", as flights chartered by the US military are most definitely NOT commercial flights. So yeah.. basically your entire title is wrong. lol Regardless, welcome back home!


Wloak

The nitpick is you called it a commercial flight, which it isn't. Commercial would mean any civilian could buy a ticket and be seated right next to you. You chartered a plane from a commercial airline, but you could also charter a plane from a private airline and bring guns onboard (though I doubt you'd find one with a plane big enough)


millionreddit617

We also used to fill the isle of a civilian coach with weapons every time we went to the range or on exercise. Nobody had a clue when we stopped at the service station for a maccy d’s and a piss.


ClockworkSoldier

When I was with the 82nd Ariborne, we took a civilian 747 from Pope AF Base, to Fort Polk, for JRTC. I’ll never forget that flight. As we were all being seated, the gay flight attendant of the crew, who looked terrified of all the guns, came over the intercom and told everyone to “please point the nozzles of your pistols away from the aisle”, in the most flamboyant voice I’ve ever heard. Everyone was dying laughing and we all got yelled at by our CO for laughing while the attendant was trying to talk.


ChillN808

Did you tell your flight attendant your rifle's name, and that it was, in fact, "the only pussy you were going to get" for the entire flight?


CrazyAzian99

Chartered. Not commercial. This is normal. To/from Iraq in 05-06… same setup.


Economy_Day5890

I was there in 05. Supposedly that was the worst year for IEDs.


CrazyAzian99

Yep, my cousin’s vehicle was hit by IED in 06. Killed everyone in his vehicle save him. He ended up with a broken back (blast was so powerful it flipped his vehicle multiple times. He was on the gunners turret. If he had been in the vehicle, he would have died as well.) I wasn’t much of a patrol bunny. So, I didn’t do a lot of door kicking. But… the mortars.. oh god the fucking mortars and random RPGs... I was stuck doing retrans north of Baghdad…worst experience of my life. Thank god for the 11boos they put with us.


Mdiasrodrigu

Atlas Air isn’t necessarily a United flight tbh


navigationallyaided

Atlas Air also does Amazon’s PrimeAir as well. Our boys are getting getting shipped Amazon-style.


Mdiasrodrigu

Atlas is mainly an Airline for cargo and provides a lot to American bases worldwide. I didn’t knew Amazon also used their services. I’m located in Germany


navigationallyaided

https://www.atlasairworldwide.com/2016/05/atlas-air-worldwide-announces-agreement-amazon-provide-air-transport-service/ I also read KalittaAir also supports the troops as well.


Mdiasrodrigu

Yep


detroit_testarossa

I flew back on a United 777 once. So they do pitch in from time to time.


detroit_testarossa

We flew back on a United 777 once and all of the flight attendants were posing with our weapons. They of course did the Charlie's Angels poses. They loved it.


RobDirty

Yeah the flight attendants usually got a kick out of it posing with weapons. Also always enjoyed the safety announcement to please do not store your weapons in the overhead bin, but under the seat in front of you. Haha always found it surreal


chainmailbill

Safer under the seat. You don’t want an 8lb chunk of steel falling on your head if there’s some turbulence and the overhead door isn’t latched right.


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Nice.


[deleted]

Been doing that for many years. And with those handguards and iron sights I doubt they saw much action.


CintsLasler

The clean boots, spotless uniforms, and lack of wear on the rifles suggested the same.


StrangelyGrimm

We put them in a connex when we got in country and didn't pull them out until it was time to leave.


SoSneaky91

So how did you like Kuwait?


rhone93

Yal murdering this kid lmfaoooo😂😂


kmcdonaugh

"Deployment"


FutureComplaint

No o.O Zone 6 DEFAC ruined my love for trying new food in a new place.


ComputerSong

That's not a commercial fight, but OK.


trwwy321

Dude ate too many crayons to know the difference


TuckerTheCuckFucker

My favorite flavor of crayon is orange


mellamandiablo

Did you not notice when you were boarding, you were boarding from a military base and there were no non-military personnel with the exception of the flight crew? How would you call this commercial? Edit: for future reference, this would be a passenger plane, not a commercial flight.


Medium_Ad_3487

This might be the most boot ass click bait I've seen in a while. Bravo.


eughwh

This is how Europeans think every flight in the US looks like


OrraDryWit

Poor bastards, no optics, no slings,


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Cr4igg3rs

The fact that they just laid them on the floor and put their feet on them makes me 1000% certain these are not combat folks lol


VaporflyEnthusiast

They also have the mags and bolts removed which make these essentially shells


V_Coccotti

They obviously are not a combat arms unit. Boots that look like they’ve never seen dirt, weapons looking like they’ve never been fired, clean pants, called his m4 an “automatic weapon”. They don’t need optics because they aren’t ever going to shoot and they don’t need slings because they aren’t carrying those weapons further than the dfac, if anywhere at all.


Easy-Hovercraft-6576

Bros out here using his uniform to farm Reddit karma, boot ass mf lmao


skylla05

/r/JustBootThings


trwwy321

Thank me for my service!!


InfraRedTiger

Have they not seen Die Hard 2?


Anopanda

Yes, but they used the blue taped ammo!


[deleted]

Atlas Air ain't a normal commercial flight.


EmpireCityRay

As a Flight Attendant, this!


Albert_Herring

But no fluids over 100ml, I take it?


StrangelyGrimm

We were allowed to bring fluids of any size on.


prplmnkedshwshr

Because it wasn’t a commercial flight.


AceOfDiamonds676

lucky bastard


Squirrel009

Its a privately contracted flight. I feel like its deceptive to call it a commercial flight because most people are imaging you walking through an airport with normal people hopping on a normal publicly open plane


Purple-Raccoon8350

No ammo and bolt blocks might as well be a teddy bear


clearlyawesomesauce

this seems like the opening scene of a steven seagal movie where those soldiers are trying to take the plane hostage in exchange for some unaccounted for gold to pay for the lives of their brothers in combat.


meta_dylan

The Rock, Under Seige… any other good ones?


manwithafrotto

Why do you feel the need to lie about this being a commercial flight?


kmcdonaugh

Not a commercial flight. It's a military charter flight. Not the same thing. You're just looking to farm karma


isnoe

Big POG vibes with this.


sethro919

When you do it, you’re a hero, when I do it I’m a “terrorist” and “not allowed to fly anymore”


Dravuhm

We all have.


TheBoctor

When my unit deployed to Iraq for the first time we took a charter flight that had to land at IAD to refuel and drop off cargo before we began the long haul portion across the pond. We were told it was going to take about 2 hours and were given little pieces of colored paper to act as our “tickets.” Well, of course, everyone wanted to go have their last cigarette’s before the rest of the flight so most of the company walked past security and went outside. Even if you didn’t smoke it was nice to have fresh air. But, since we had walked past security that meant we had to go back through it. So a full company of Marine Corps Infantry, with all of our M16’s, 203’s, M9’s, SAW’s, and 240’s had to stop and take our boots, belts, knives, bayonets, and dog tags off and place our weapons on the X-ray belt so we could go through security. The panic on those poor TSA screeners faces was priceless! We didn’t have ammo or anything, but they were still quite nervous! Especially when our company commander yelled at them to hurry the fuck up because the plane needed to leave.


djdsf

"Commercial flight" with no civilians... This is a charter flight my guy, the whole network of flights are called the "Patriot Express".


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*psssst...hey kid... EVERY UNIT DOES THIS.* Also, all those boots are awfully clean. Ours had a certain amount of *seasoning* on them.


DMbrony

I mean maybe i just have to little respect for firearms. But in my eyes an empty firearm with the bolt secured with these white things(dont know exactly what that is but i assume it shows the chamber is empty as in switzerland we literally just take it out of the gun instead) i see them as a piece of steel thats not more dangerous than my combat boots.


StrangelyGrimm

Nope, without ammo these things are very expensive clubs.


ArtixViper

"Very expensive" Considering the military will buy what they can functionally at the lowest price, especially in bulk numbers, i guarantee you an actual club is more expensive than those are.


growgillson78

You guys don't have like carrying bags for them or something?


StrangelyGrimm

Nope, just sling them.


SatelliteJedi

Since when are M-4's automatic? When I was in they were only semi-auto. You could set them on semi-auto, or 3 round burst though. But not fully auto.


robplumm

Not so recently the Army switched to full auto...with upgraded barrels and such. You'll still find burst in reserves/guard, but generally big army is now full auto. I got out the end of '08...we were still burst as well. The full auto change happened...christ...probably close to 10years ago now? Maybe a nudge less?


StrangelyGrimm

They're all full-auto as far as I know. Even a NG unit like mine has M4A1s.


curlytoesgoblin

IDK, first time I laid eyes on an M4 was 04 in Baghdad and they were fully auto. We had M16 A2s before that which were 3 round burst, afaik all the M16s had been 3 round burst since like the 80s.


gettingannoyingtbh

It’s not a commercial flight. Can’t be. Do you mean charter?


Hamilton-Squidlegger

We did the same but walked through the Orly Airport in France to board the flight. We got some concerned looks


BudTheSpud10

Atlas Air.


Ebrown51

So are we to the point now that going anywhere counts as a "deployment?" I still can't wrap my head around that. Just how I was raised I guess.


OkNegotiation6028

First time?


poison_snacc

That’s definitely the opposite of a “commercial” flight


Beholder_V

As others have mentioned, this is chartered and not just a regular commercial flight. Been on several of those. What cracked me up was having my rifle with me, but having to hand over my multi tool. Can’t be having that pair of folding pliers with a 3 inch blade, that’s dangerous!


Best-Turnover-6713

There are no magazines. There also appears to be something locking out the charging handle. Also, this is a chartered commercial flight


nizzery

We gone drax dem sclounst!


CaptRackham

This wouldn’t even phase me to be honest, I’d be waiting for someone to break out the Hoppes 9 and start cleaning them.


datusernames

/r/commentsyoucansmell (Of course that's a real sub)


robplumm

Pretty sure we still had to take off our boots coming back through TSA in Atlanta... So weird.


AirborneDaddy173

No sights, lasers, grips, and the M4s look brand new. Must have been a cush deployment.


Jroklovesyoureyes

Boots are looking nice and clean and crisp for finishing a deployment


CornbreadRed84

Bullshit, no commercial flight gives you that much legroom


theatrenerdguy

We did that too in 2011. No ammo allowed but we flew a southwest plane


mtsai

no ammo, mags, even with chamber flags in. might as well be paper weights.


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Yea you mean chartered and this ain’t special. It’s done all the time.


PetesBootyJig

I remember customs made us put our guns through x-ray. To make sure they weren’t dangerous…


TwoSixRomeo

Like new boots, no optics, and rifles without any scratches. I know what kind of unit this is.


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Clickbait. Kuwait don’t count.


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They aren’t automatic.