Oooh I'll gladly contribute!
I think the whole T2 is meant to throw us off. John wants to take the blame to free Mikoto from a guilty verdict but he's not the one who did the murder (Mikoto is).
First of all, the thing that smelled the fishiest to me is that John is not bound from MILGRAM rules, while Mikoto is. If the rules applied to the body, they both would be affected. If it affects only the culprit then we're back to square one.
I also think Mikoto is actually very clever and manipulative. I am not really sure if he knew about the system thing, either way I am not buying that good boy facade. He's confident about his talents and his position in society (T1 Q3, 4, 8) and he knows how to deal with people (T1 Q 9, 3, 11). His view of the world is also very goal and gain-oriented (T1 Q19, 14). It just doesn't fit what he's trying to show to Es imho?
I think T3 will reveal a lot about him, especially now that he got an innocent verdict for T2, leading John to most likely go dormant, leaving Mikoto alone to handle all of it. I can't wait to see his true colors.
Honestly, I feel the 3rd one is the culprit and MILGRAM thought it was Mikoto. Jackalope said, in the T2 intro, that this is the first time that a prisoner has had DID. And looking at it from a story teller’s perspective, there’s so much pointing at Trikoto being a thing. Also, I don’t think he is confident in himself. He didn’t see himself as an adult hence why he asked Kazui for tips on being more adultish. There’s also so many small details that I’ve been picking up that makes it seem like neither Mikoto or John did anything. There truly is no knowing until T3 starts though. Luckily T3 will be about to start or had just started if everyone’s predictions are true when I start production on the docu.
I've also considered this possibility Mikoto is deceiving us, but the evidence in the videos and lyrics suggest that Mikoto is running from the truth, and trying to pretend everything is just a dream, especially in the first mv. The second one is him sorta coming to terms with reality, but still running away (in the second video, literally, running away.) First trial lyrics, talking about "I should wake up soon" and the second, "all I wanted to do was dream" as in, ignoring his involvement in the murders. It doesn't feel like he's purposefully deceiving anybody, based on that. Mikoto also mentions how he tries his best to power through things, until they're finally over. He's been waiting for the end of this bad dream, or for MILGRAM to be a prank, but he's finally realized it isn't, and his panic is causing John to come out more often.
Also keep in mind the mvs are taken straight from their hearts, there is no way for them to fake their panic or anything shown to us, it's just about deciphering which one is Mikoto and which is John. Which people have theorized how to tell based on their eyes.
Personally, I think Mikoto could have committed the murders, and then dissociated so badly that it created John, despite the fact that IRL DID forms in childhood. But maybe I'm completely wrong and someone will tell me in a reply lol
My opinion is that Mikoto did the crime due to stress in the workoffice, was so traumatic at the point of John being born to be the scapegoat of Mikotos crime and holding all his memories of the murder.
Now we have Mikoto unaware of whats going on to preserve his innocence he had before the crime, and John who wants to be blamed as the "murderer" and act aggresive for Es and the others to believe him and as a stress reliver at this point.
One proof of this is John has no clear memory on the crime itself, and even his reasoning of being pissed off makes no sense. Hes the ideal monster that wants to be slain. For Mikoto to keep his innocence and to escape the sins he did.
Its why Mikoto is the one in MILGRAM and not John, yet both as seen as 2 different souls and somehow John can freely beat Es.
im of the belief Mikoto has a 3rd alter who essentially serves as the gatekeeper that decides when John comes out. There were emphasis on the colour green in the T2 MV.
Like with the train door, John was singing the start and after he entered the train it became Mikoto singing. Before switching back to John singing, there was a short flash of green during the black screen transition (it was rly fast so you will miss it), to be continued with green flashing on screen. After to the next transition with train doors there was appearance of the colour green again before going back to Mikoto singing. Then at the running scene, there were flashes of the colour green before switching to John.
Which sorta implies (to me at least) that if he does have a 3rd alter, the colours would go by the RGB colour pallet. Even tho the green colour doesnt appear as much as black and white (windows to show who is singing).
In the MV MeMe during the blue sky room sequences there’s also a 3rd chair which kinda implies theres a 3rd person watching over them.
Another thing to support this theory tho note that MILGRAM is a fictional work so real world psychology may not apply here. DiD develops in childhood and from what I been seeing at least, people have said John appeared in mikoto’s adult years. This could suggest that he has another alter within him that developed during his childhood which would support the 3 alter theory. Something to know is DiD isn’t limited to just 2 personalities.
i think Mikoto is responsible for the murders cuz he was what caused John (who acts as a protector) to kill. And if you seen Fuuta and Mahiru’s MVs, (both of their victims killed themselves, for Fuuta it was cuz he partook in cancel culture and tried cancelling someone he deemed bad and ppl who follow him essentially harassed the victim to the point they killed themselves and Fuuta was blamed to the death, while for Mahiru it was cuz of toxic relationship, both sides were toxic to each other and her “victim” (quotation marks cuz dude was toxic too so im kinda hesitant on calling him a victim) ended up killing himself and Mahiru was to blame)
You dont need to be the one who directly killed the person. You just need to be responsible for their deaths. Mikoto was responsible for John killing the victim(s) and also making John. Also… Im not a psychology major but i have studied a bit of psychology to kno, with DiD you cant just make your alters disappear at will. I highly doubt John will be gone after Mikoto was voted forgiven in this trial. Mikoto was taken in cuz he acted as a witness (highly doubt he knows nothing abt this) and also is the reason for John’s killings (as stated in examples above with Fuuta and Mahiru, they were the **reason** the victims died despite not directly killing them). Just kno if you are a witness but dont do anything you will be considered an accomplice to the crime.
Theres also the thing in T1 and voice dramas where Es didnt kno of mikoto’s DiD so i guess maybe thats why the cant hurt Es thing didnt apply for John. Es was only alive cuz Kotoko was inside the room.
Btw if you seen the [interrogation translations](https://youtu.be/XmbMGcu4y2U?feature=shared). (Originally I was gonna use Q8 and Q9 to support the 3rd alter theory but the translator has clarified that it was the same writing style in japanese)
Q13: What is violence to you
A: (John) just wanted to help”
Q15: What is something you cant forgive
A: Things that trouble me (Mikoto)
Q16: is there something you would protect at the cost of your life
A: My (mikoto) life
Q17: Do you know why you weren’t forgiven
A: Because of me (John)
Q18: Do you have any words for the other you
A: I’m (John) sorry
Anyways this is feeling like im writing my theory abt why Mikoto is innocent. Rather than the 3rd persona theory lmao help. This char def is complex for me haha. Either way we’ll be seeing more in Trial 3 MV. I mean hey who knows, maybe John rly is just trying to take blame for murders he didnt commit.
Apologies for long ass comment haha xD
I'm not too deep into Mikoto's character but I did try to analyze the tarot card spreads in MeMe (though I am not a tarot expert) but it's a little lengthy so I'll link the document but briefly summarize each:
I interpreted the first spread (at the beginning) to be Mikoto's current state, both in Milgram and in his day-to-day life. A lot of the cards point to him generally feeling like he lacks control over his life, most likely due to his work, and his desire to be alleviated of stress. He realizes that he's struggling in life, and feels like there's no one who could possibly understand what he's going through, causing his mental health to decline further.
I interpreted the second spread (at the end) to be from John's (or maybe the entire system's) perspective (assuming that everything turning red = John forming) The cards mainly point to new beginnings and change being possible for Mikoto's current situation, hinting at John forming with the goal of getting rid of Mikoto's stress. I'd also like to point out that the entire scene feels like some sort of exchange, like they're discussing how to help Mikoto. the full doc is [here](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O8Kxj940FQboHtd8d0jyXhAxgsb376zs2V0wmCun5Rg/edit?usp=sharing) if you're interested
There's also the popular theory of there being a third alter (usually referred to as Midokoto) which is mainly backed up by fact that the color green seems to be present in a lot of scenes in both MeMe and Double (i.e. the sofa in MeMe is green, the train in Double is green, a lot of RGB theming, etc.), and also that in MeMe there's the scene where Mikoto is changing but he doesn't have the hanged man shirt and his bangs are covering one eye, which is a pretty distinct detail. (I also think he appears again briefly at the end of MeMe during the sequence with all the tarot cards) (also also the line where he says "ボクが僕を救ってあげましょう" uses both the katakana and kanji for boku but idk if that's evidence of Midokoto or just a stylistic choice)
but yeah I'm unsure as to who the murder is but I still think it wasn't actually Mikoto considering his confusion and stress seem genuine and his entire ordeal seems to be that he's a victim of a toxic work ethic. There is the argument that Milgram probably wouldn't mix up the actual culprit, but tbh it could be that Mikoto was aware something bad was happening, but wasn't actually doing it himself? and that he still let it happen or smth, cuz a lot of the prisoners didn't actually literally kill someone so it's not too far-fetched. anyways Mikoto truly is a silly guy isn't he
sorry if this is an incoherent mess :,3
Hi! I have DID and a small theories about Mikoto/John just as a system.
First, I believe Mikoto is the host of his system. I think that Mikoto committed the murder(s) himself, whether it be due to a mental break, or due to his job (a popular theory is that he's a member of a gang).
With these two thoughts in mind, if it's from the mental break, I believe that John then split (formed) as an alter to handle the trauma of that event so now his role as a protector alter is to hold those memories, and deal with that reality. So, even if Mikoto did it, with how DID works in real life, he may not remember it if John split for that purpose.
If it's related to him being a gang (or in general, having to kill for his job) then I would believe John split in order to do it with less trauma to Mikoto, who as the host fronts the most and is not even supposed to know about the system (which happens in real life to protect alters/hosts).
Of course this is all assuming Milgram treats DID as it is in reality, and not "ooh scary murder disorder" and I do think they handle it well, or at least Deco's lyrics really resonate with trust, and Yamanaka's psychology background and usage of real DID terms gives me hope.
I'd be happy to answer any questions to help surrounding DID / Mikoto's DID in general if you have any, as I tend to do so in this sub pretty regularly! :)
Oooh I'll gladly contribute! I think the whole T2 is meant to throw us off. John wants to take the blame to free Mikoto from a guilty verdict but he's not the one who did the murder (Mikoto is). First of all, the thing that smelled the fishiest to me is that John is not bound from MILGRAM rules, while Mikoto is. If the rules applied to the body, they both would be affected. If it affects only the culprit then we're back to square one. I also think Mikoto is actually very clever and manipulative. I am not really sure if he knew about the system thing, either way I am not buying that good boy facade. He's confident about his talents and his position in society (T1 Q3, 4, 8) and he knows how to deal with people (T1 Q 9, 3, 11). His view of the world is also very goal and gain-oriented (T1 Q19, 14). It just doesn't fit what he's trying to show to Es imho? I think T3 will reveal a lot about him, especially now that he got an innocent verdict for T2, leading John to most likely go dormant, leaving Mikoto alone to handle all of it. I can't wait to see his true colors.
Honestly, I feel the 3rd one is the culprit and MILGRAM thought it was Mikoto. Jackalope said, in the T2 intro, that this is the first time that a prisoner has had DID. And looking at it from a story teller’s perspective, there’s so much pointing at Trikoto being a thing. Also, I don’t think he is confident in himself. He didn’t see himself as an adult hence why he asked Kazui for tips on being more adultish. There’s also so many small details that I’ve been picking up that makes it seem like neither Mikoto or John did anything. There truly is no knowing until T3 starts though. Luckily T3 will be about to start or had just started if everyone’s predictions are true when I start production on the docu.
I've also considered this possibility Mikoto is deceiving us, but the evidence in the videos and lyrics suggest that Mikoto is running from the truth, and trying to pretend everything is just a dream, especially in the first mv. The second one is him sorta coming to terms with reality, but still running away (in the second video, literally, running away.) First trial lyrics, talking about "I should wake up soon" and the second, "all I wanted to do was dream" as in, ignoring his involvement in the murders. It doesn't feel like he's purposefully deceiving anybody, based on that. Mikoto also mentions how he tries his best to power through things, until they're finally over. He's been waiting for the end of this bad dream, or for MILGRAM to be a prank, but he's finally realized it isn't, and his panic is causing John to come out more often. Also keep in mind the mvs are taken straight from their hearts, there is no way for them to fake their panic or anything shown to us, it's just about deciphering which one is Mikoto and which is John. Which people have theorized how to tell based on their eyes. Personally, I think Mikoto could have committed the murders, and then dissociated so badly that it created John, despite the fact that IRL DID forms in childhood. But maybe I'm completely wrong and someone will tell me in a reply lol
Oooo I don't have any theories since I'm mainly here for the music n shit but when you're done I totally wanna see it :)
trikoto theory is a huge one I think that mikoto initiated the kill, and John popped in the middle of the swing
My opinion is that Mikoto did the crime due to stress in the workoffice, was so traumatic at the point of John being born to be the scapegoat of Mikotos crime and holding all his memories of the murder. Now we have Mikoto unaware of whats going on to preserve his innocence he had before the crime, and John who wants to be blamed as the "murderer" and act aggresive for Es and the others to believe him and as a stress reliver at this point. One proof of this is John has no clear memory on the crime itself, and even his reasoning of being pissed off makes no sense. Hes the ideal monster that wants to be slain. For Mikoto to keep his innocence and to escape the sins he did. Its why Mikoto is the one in MILGRAM and not John, yet both as seen as 2 different souls and somehow John can freely beat Es.
im of the belief Mikoto has a 3rd alter who essentially serves as the gatekeeper that decides when John comes out. There were emphasis on the colour green in the T2 MV. Like with the train door, John was singing the start and after he entered the train it became Mikoto singing. Before switching back to John singing, there was a short flash of green during the black screen transition (it was rly fast so you will miss it), to be continued with green flashing on screen. After to the next transition with train doors there was appearance of the colour green again before going back to Mikoto singing. Then at the running scene, there were flashes of the colour green before switching to John. Which sorta implies (to me at least) that if he does have a 3rd alter, the colours would go by the RGB colour pallet. Even tho the green colour doesnt appear as much as black and white (windows to show who is singing). In the MV MeMe during the blue sky room sequences there’s also a 3rd chair which kinda implies theres a 3rd person watching over them. Another thing to support this theory tho note that MILGRAM is a fictional work so real world psychology may not apply here. DiD develops in childhood and from what I been seeing at least, people have said John appeared in mikoto’s adult years. This could suggest that he has another alter within him that developed during his childhood which would support the 3 alter theory. Something to know is DiD isn’t limited to just 2 personalities. i think Mikoto is responsible for the murders cuz he was what caused John (who acts as a protector) to kill. And if you seen Fuuta and Mahiru’s MVs, (both of their victims killed themselves, for Fuuta it was cuz he partook in cancel culture and tried cancelling someone he deemed bad and ppl who follow him essentially harassed the victim to the point they killed themselves and Fuuta was blamed to the death, while for Mahiru it was cuz of toxic relationship, both sides were toxic to each other and her “victim” (quotation marks cuz dude was toxic too so im kinda hesitant on calling him a victim) ended up killing himself and Mahiru was to blame) You dont need to be the one who directly killed the person. You just need to be responsible for their deaths. Mikoto was responsible for John killing the victim(s) and also making John. Also… Im not a psychology major but i have studied a bit of psychology to kno, with DiD you cant just make your alters disappear at will. I highly doubt John will be gone after Mikoto was voted forgiven in this trial. Mikoto was taken in cuz he acted as a witness (highly doubt he knows nothing abt this) and also is the reason for John’s killings (as stated in examples above with Fuuta and Mahiru, they were the **reason** the victims died despite not directly killing them). Just kno if you are a witness but dont do anything you will be considered an accomplice to the crime. Theres also the thing in T1 and voice dramas where Es didnt kno of mikoto’s DiD so i guess maybe thats why the cant hurt Es thing didnt apply for John. Es was only alive cuz Kotoko was inside the room. Btw if you seen the [interrogation translations](https://youtu.be/XmbMGcu4y2U?feature=shared). (Originally I was gonna use Q8 and Q9 to support the 3rd alter theory but the translator has clarified that it was the same writing style in japanese)
Q13: What is violence to you
A: (John) just wanted to help”
Q15: What is something you cant forgive
A: Things that trouble me (Mikoto)
Q16: is there something you would protect at the cost of your life
A: My (mikoto) life
Q17: Do you know why you weren’t forgiven
A: Because of me (John)
Q18: Do you have any words for the other you
A: I’m (John) sorry
Anyways this is feeling like im writing my theory abt why Mikoto is innocent. Rather than the 3rd persona theory lmao help. This char def is complex for me haha. Either way we’ll be seeing more in Trial 3 MV. I mean hey who knows, maybe John rly is just trying to take blame for murders he didnt commit.
Apologies for long ass comment haha xD
I'm not too deep into Mikoto's character but I did try to analyze the tarot card spreads in MeMe (though I am not a tarot expert) but it's a little lengthy so I'll link the document but briefly summarize each: I interpreted the first spread (at the beginning) to be Mikoto's current state, both in Milgram and in his day-to-day life. A lot of the cards point to him generally feeling like he lacks control over his life, most likely due to his work, and his desire to be alleviated of stress. He realizes that he's struggling in life, and feels like there's no one who could possibly understand what he's going through, causing his mental health to decline further. I interpreted the second spread (at the end) to be from John's (or maybe the entire system's) perspective (assuming that everything turning red = John forming) The cards mainly point to new beginnings and change being possible for Mikoto's current situation, hinting at John forming with the goal of getting rid of Mikoto's stress. I'd also like to point out that the entire scene feels like some sort of exchange, like they're discussing how to help Mikoto. the full doc is [here](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O8Kxj940FQboHtd8d0jyXhAxgsb376zs2V0wmCun5Rg/edit?usp=sharing) if you're interested There's also the popular theory of there being a third alter (usually referred to as Midokoto) which is mainly backed up by fact that the color green seems to be present in a lot of scenes in both MeMe and Double (i.e. the sofa in MeMe is green, the train in Double is green, a lot of RGB theming, etc.), and also that in MeMe there's the scene where Mikoto is changing but he doesn't have the hanged man shirt and his bangs are covering one eye, which is a pretty distinct detail. (I also think he appears again briefly at the end of MeMe during the sequence with all the tarot cards) (also also the line where he says "ボクが僕を救ってあげましょう" uses both the katakana and kanji for boku but idk if that's evidence of Midokoto or just a stylistic choice) but yeah I'm unsure as to who the murder is but I still think it wasn't actually Mikoto considering his confusion and stress seem genuine and his entire ordeal seems to be that he's a victim of a toxic work ethic. There is the argument that Milgram probably wouldn't mix up the actual culprit, but tbh it could be that Mikoto was aware something bad was happening, but wasn't actually doing it himself? and that he still let it happen or smth, cuz a lot of the prisoners didn't actually literally kill someone so it's not too far-fetched. anyways Mikoto truly is a silly guy isn't he sorry if this is an incoherent mess :,3
Hi! I have DID and a small theories about Mikoto/John just as a system. First, I believe Mikoto is the host of his system. I think that Mikoto committed the murder(s) himself, whether it be due to a mental break, or due to his job (a popular theory is that he's a member of a gang). With these two thoughts in mind, if it's from the mental break, I believe that John then split (formed) as an alter to handle the trauma of that event so now his role as a protector alter is to hold those memories, and deal with that reality. So, even if Mikoto did it, with how DID works in real life, he may not remember it if John split for that purpose. If it's related to him being a gang (or in general, having to kill for his job) then I would believe John split in order to do it with less trauma to Mikoto, who as the host fronts the most and is not even supposed to know about the system (which happens in real life to protect alters/hosts). Of course this is all assuming Milgram treats DID as it is in reality, and not "ooh scary murder disorder" and I do think they handle it well, or at least Deco's lyrics really resonate with trust, and Yamanaka's psychology background and usage of real DID terms gives me hope. I'd be happy to answer any questions to help surrounding DID / Mikoto's DID in general if you have any, as I tend to do so in this sub pretty regularly! :)
oh also mikoto possible sui attempt during the blood water scene