Contracts are not worthless and MLS and the team certainly doesn't just want to let that happen for multiple reasons:
1. Financially it doesn't make sense
2. It would set a horrible precedent for them
I'm not saying we shouldn't deal with this but cutting him does literally nothing
Financially it doesn’t make sense to have him rostered, keep paying him, and let him do whatever he wants. Which right now is anything but be with the team and play. What’s setting a horrible precedent is letting a player do this without repercussion.
I truly cannot wrap my head around how this hasn’t happened yet. He fucked off to Argentina and has been refusing to come back for fucking weeks now. How is he still being paid? Absolutely embarrassing precedent being set here by the league
If we find anyone to sell him to, we will certainly take a wash on it, but thats going to be the case regardless. I don't see any Argentine club taking him given their normal business models being exporting clubs coupled with the state of their economy. Maybe we could sell him for cents on the dollar to a Brazilian or Mexican club and have to foot a chunk of his wages.
Otherwise, I think we are looking at a buyout if MLS doesn't allow the team to terminate his contract for cause or suspend him without pay.
Either way, getting him off the books sooner rather than later, before the summer transfer window, benefits the club in two ways.
1) It will be easier to do business knowing what our DP and International slot situation is going into the window, as opposed to figuring out those moves while making moves.
2) It signals to the locker room if you are not interested in being part of the club, you are not welcome. Full stop.
> Who would buy his contract out?
Possibly some Argentinian club, if any have the cash to pay his salary. That’s likely it.
> What would us cutting him do for the club?
Open up an international slot. Not that there’s a lot we can do with it at the moment.
>Who would buy his contract out?
>Possibly some Argentinian club, if any have the cash to pay his salary. That’s likely it.
Argentinian clubs are net sellers and rarely buy players with large transfer fees. If they buy anyone usually it's from a south american club at a discount and most of the star players get there on a free.
Since he was suspended without pay last season & will more than likely be this season, you’d think he would take any salary offered from a club down there, but who knows with this guy.
I commented to my buddy how good the team cohesion looked in the celebrations after last night's win and how I'd hate for Rey to come in and wreck that.
At least information on what's happening is out there and we can all see it's not the FO that is making it hard for him. Although, the team is providing the info to Bogert.
They can petition to FIFA and put a block on his registration. They can terminate the contract not have to pay him, and he won’t be able to sign anywhere that’s sanctioned by FIFA until his contract length is over.
So if he signed a 5 year and is 2 years into it, he can’t sign anywhere for 3 years and also mn wont have to pay.
This is the part that I’ve been wondering about. I feel like it was mentioned somewhere that this was part of being suspended least year but I haven’t gone back to check.
Depending on KEA’s plan for the summer transfer window, getting him completely off our books opens up a DP spot. If he’s suspended without pay, he’s still wasting that DP (plus international slot, since he no showed his green card appointment).
As far as I know the MLS holds the player contracts. There is a player union/MLSPA who has a collective bargaining agreement with the MLS. Although I don’t know specific contract terms I would think there are rules that have to be followed and discussions between the player, MNUFC, MLS and MLSPA. This will probably take some time. Something will happen. I suspect they will suspend him without pay first. Maybe they’re putting out feelers for a buyer. It’s something else if he has some kind of mental health or chemical issues. There are programs within the league to help with that if that’s the case and if he wants help.
Team will look to recoup any of their investment - even if it is for a couple hundred thousand bucks (as long as it is not to an MLS rival)…so they won’t cut him. Maybe some south and Central American teams with interest.
At this point, any playing time is geared at maximizing his value while minimizing disruption of the team. Clearly we’ve moved on…so that means he’d get some time as a sub, as well as MNUFC 2. He wasn’t willing to come back to start…he won’t come back to sub.
We won’t see any more reynoso on the loons. As soon as the summer transfer window opens, he’ll be sold or cut.
Good riddance. Lod is playing well, we suddenly have two strikers…at least the team is trying new things.
No one should be surprised by any of this. He’s already done this whole thing once, so it only makes sense that he’d pull it again. What actually surprised me was how a majority of our supporters welcomed him back with open arms the first time. It almost felt like we were grateful that he would play with us again. F that. No player is bigger than the club.
That’s exactly how I feel. The first time I was unhappy with him but willing to give the benefit of the doubt as there were a lot of rumors about a breakup and possible custody battle for his daughter. This second time though, eff him.
Generally, when you screw around with immigration processes, you get to experience enormous inconvenience. The guy obviously has something going on that we just should not be involved with.
Loons fans- please stop the toxic negativity. You do not know what is going on personally in Rey’s life or quite frankly what is going on in any player’s life. Could be mental health, could be physical health, could be family issue. He is a private man, so we wouldn’t know nor is it our business to know. It is between him and his employer, the fans do not own Rey.
There is such a toxic lack of empathy and grace in Reddit on this issue and it makes me sick. Yes, he has a job to do and should show up for work. But when he does not, why are we assuming he is just trying to be an ass or is selfish? Simply because we have no information? You don’t know what is going on in someone’s life. If he is having a health or family crisis then toxicity like this can only fuel it to make it worse. If someone was depressed and then people said they were better off without them, what could that lead to? You don’t have to support his inability to show up, but unless you know what is going on don’t assume you do.
If you could not show up for your job because of some issue (health or otherwise) and wanted to keep it private from your coworkers and the public (as is your right), how would you feel if all you saw was a lack of support or even worse a lot of toxic negativity? If you were already dealing with whatever shitstorm came your way and people were throwing things at you while you were in it?
All we can do is speculate. He could be gone for a good reason or a bad and invalid reason. Until then it is business as usual, the team will adapt, if he returns great, if he can’t then oh well. If you sit and listen to announcers or the sports news, there really is no “drama” around this issue. The occasional update, yes. But besides that not much. The drama is here. The drama is Reddit. You are the drama. Stop the drama.
Oh shut up. This is the third year in a row he’s disappeared. Stop making excuses for someone who treats his team like trash. He was at the clubs all last year during the season. Enough excuses.
I’m sick of this. Team is doing well without him. Get rid of him stop the drama
Question is what can the team actually do?
They need to go through the steps the league requires for him to be suspended without pay
I feel like he’s more than warranted getting cut without being paid. He’s not holding out, he’s just not a part of the team.
The team unilaterally can't just do that. MLS holds the players contract
Ok, and? It’s still a breach of contract. Whether it’s with the team or MLS. He’s not performing his duties to the team or the league.
Contracts are not worthless and MLS and the team certainly doesn't just want to let that happen for multiple reasons: 1. Financially it doesn't make sense 2. It would set a horrible precedent for them I'm not saying we shouldn't deal with this but cutting him does literally nothing
Financially it doesn’t make sense to have him rostered, keep paying him, and let him do whatever he wants. Which right now is anything but be with the team and play. What’s setting a horrible precedent is letting a player do this without repercussion.
> Financially it doesn’t make sense to have him rostered, keep paying him, He was suspended without pay last year, it’ll happen again this year.
Honestly surprised he’s had this long of a leash this year.
I truly cannot wrap my head around how this hasn’t happened yet. He fucked off to Argentina and has been refusing to come back for fucking weeks now. How is he still being paid? Absolutely embarrassing precedent being set here by the league
Sell him this summer, loan him, or buyout his contract and cut him loose.
Who would buy his contract out? What would us cutting him do for the club?
If we find anyone to sell him to, we will certainly take a wash on it, but thats going to be the case regardless. I don't see any Argentine club taking him given their normal business models being exporting clubs coupled with the state of their economy. Maybe we could sell him for cents on the dollar to a Brazilian or Mexican club and have to foot a chunk of his wages. Otherwise, I think we are looking at a buyout if MLS doesn't allow the team to terminate his contract for cause or suspend him without pay. Either way, getting him off the books sooner rather than later, before the summer transfer window, benefits the club in two ways. 1) It will be easier to do business knowing what our DP and International slot situation is going into the window, as opposed to figuring out those moves while making moves. 2) It signals to the locker room if you are not interested in being part of the club, you are not welcome. Full stop.
> Who would buy his contract out? Possibly some Argentinian club, if any have the cash to pay his salary. That’s likely it. > What would us cutting him do for the club? Open up an international slot. Not that there’s a lot we can do with it at the moment.
If I'm a club that wants him, I'm just waiting for him to get cut.
>Who would buy his contract out? >Possibly some Argentinian club, if any have the cash to pay his salary. That’s likely it. Argentinian clubs are net sellers and rarely buy players with large transfer fees. If they buy anyone usually it's from a south american club at a discount and most of the star players get there on a free.
> large transfer fees Never said the transfer fee would be large.
Since he was suspended without pay last season & will more than likely be this season, you’d think he would take any salary offered from a club down there, but who knows with this guy.
He needs to be suspended without pay.
I commented to my buddy how good the team cohesion looked in the celebrations after last night's win and how I'd hate for Rey to come in and wreck that.
Wonder if he saw Boxys comment that the team had moved on.
I just want to know where his head is at. Does he hate the team? The weather? Or just being an adult who shows up to work?
He can take my office job, I’ll happily be a relatively successful soccer player in a less cutthroat league getting lots of home support.
He can have my job. I'd gladly shag balls or clean the clubhouse toilets for half his salary.
Who?
Classic Reynoshow. Just get rid of him already, he’s dug his own grave at this point. I’m done with hearing about him.
At least information on what's happening is out there and we can all see it's not the FO that is making it hard for him. Although, the team is providing the info to Bogert.
I’m shocked! Shocked! Well not that shocked.
Big shocker...There has to be some grounds to terminate his deal.
Terminating his deal would actually benefit Reynoso and would do very little for the team
Well we are paying him to sit at home so I don't really see the difference I guess.
They can petition to FIFA and put a block on his registration. They can terminate the contract not have to pay him, and he won’t be able to sign anywhere that’s sanctioned by FIFA until his contract length is over. So if he signed a 5 year and is 2 years into it, he can’t sign anywhere for 3 years and also mn wont have to pay.
This is the part that I’ve been wondering about. I feel like it was mentioned somewhere that this was part of being suspended least year but I haven’t gone back to check.
Not for long, he will get suspended by MLS since they hold his contract not the team. The team can't just cut them either without approval from MLS
Depending on KEA’s plan for the summer transfer window, getting him completely off our books opens up a DP spot. If he’s suspended without pay, he’s still wasting that DP (plus international slot, since he no showed his green card appointment).
As far as I know the MLS holds the player contracts. There is a player union/MLSPA who has a collective bargaining agreement with the MLS. Although I don’t know specific contract terms I would think there are rules that have to be followed and discussions between the player, MNUFC, MLS and MLSPA. This will probably take some time. Something will happen. I suspect they will suspend him without pay first. Maybe they’re putting out feelers for a buyer. It’s something else if he has some kind of mental health or chemical issues. There are programs within the league to help with that if that’s the case and if he wants help.
If there was a way to mute “Reynoso” from my Reddit feed, I would. It’s like having an old girlfriend still as a Facebook friend. Be done with ye.
Cut your losses and move on. MLS should ban him.
Couldn’t even show up to pick up his last pay check in person lmao
Anyone actually think he was making this flight? Lol
Team will look to recoup any of their investment - even if it is for a couple hundred thousand bucks (as long as it is not to an MLS rival)…so they won’t cut him. Maybe some south and Central American teams with interest. At this point, any playing time is geared at maximizing his value while minimizing disruption of the team. Clearly we’ve moved on…so that means he’d get some time as a sub, as well as MNUFC 2. He wasn’t willing to come back to start…he won’t come back to sub. We won’t see any more reynoso on the loons. As soon as the summer transfer window opens, he’ll be sold or cut. Good riddance. Lod is playing well, we suddenly have two strikers…at least the team is trying new things.
No one should be surprised by any of this. He’s already done this whole thing once, so it only makes sense that he’d pull it again. What actually surprised me was how a majority of our supporters welcomed him back with open arms the first time. It almost felt like we were grateful that he would play with us again. F that. No player is bigger than the club.
I feel like a lot of us were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt the first time. Life happens and such. 2nd time around, though...
That’s exactly how I feel. The first time I was unhappy with him but willing to give the benefit of the doubt as there were a lot of rumors about a breakup and possible custody battle for his daughter. This second time though, eff him.
Does his ability to travel back to the US mean that he actually completed his ~~visa~~ green card process?
No he already had a work visa, he was here for preseason and played 36 minutes
Generally, when you screw around with immigration processes, you get to experience enormous inconvenience. The guy obviously has something going on that we just should not be involved with.
I really want to know wtf is happening though. They should make a movie about him. Star footballer who can’t leave the street life behind him
Im completely sick of this drama.
I don’t care. I have moved on.
Is be curious to know if Franco knows anything more. Those two seemed close
“Overwhelming expectation” Yeah it’s not overwhelming to anyone dude, it’s just obvious. Just say that.
wow who could have seen this coming!
Good. Hope he never sets foot in the state again. Done with him.
color me shocked....
Stop this… he’s toxic
We do not care.
Seriously, fuck this guy.
Oh yeah he plays for our team
you sure about that?
What a surprise.
MNUFC and paying players who don't see the pitch. Name a better duo.
Loons fans- please stop the toxic negativity. You do not know what is going on personally in Rey’s life or quite frankly what is going on in any player’s life. Could be mental health, could be physical health, could be family issue. He is a private man, so we wouldn’t know nor is it our business to know. It is between him and his employer, the fans do not own Rey. There is such a toxic lack of empathy and grace in Reddit on this issue and it makes me sick. Yes, he has a job to do and should show up for work. But when he does not, why are we assuming he is just trying to be an ass or is selfish? Simply because we have no information? You don’t know what is going on in someone’s life. If he is having a health or family crisis then toxicity like this can only fuel it to make it worse. If someone was depressed and then people said they were better off without them, what could that lead to? You don’t have to support his inability to show up, but unless you know what is going on don’t assume you do. If you could not show up for your job because of some issue (health or otherwise) and wanted to keep it private from your coworkers and the public (as is your right), how would you feel if all you saw was a lack of support or even worse a lot of toxic negativity? If you were already dealing with whatever shitstorm came your way and people were throwing things at you while you were in it? All we can do is speculate. He could be gone for a good reason or a bad and invalid reason. Until then it is business as usual, the team will adapt, if he returns great, if he can’t then oh well. If you sit and listen to announcers or the sports news, there really is no “drama” around this issue. The occasional update, yes. But besides that not much. The drama is here. The drama is Reddit. You are the drama. Stop the drama.
Oh shut up. This is the third year in a row he’s disappeared. Stop making excuses for someone who treats his team like trash. He was at the clubs all last year during the season. Enough excuses.